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| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Only True Follower Of Christ:::**see Proof**:: by brocab: 10:04am On Jan 14, 2023 |
You are looking at these verses with a fleshly mind: These verses are talking about our natural body: our flesh will die, after we die we know nothing. it's not talking about our spirit man.. {Ecclesiastes 9:5-10} 7 Go, eat your food with gladness, and drink your wine with a joyful heart, for God has already approved what you do. 8 Always be clothed in white, and always anoint your head with oil. 9 Enjoy life with your wife, whom you love, all the days of this meaningless life that God has given you under the sun—all your meaningless days. For this is your lot in life and in your toilsome labor under the sun. 10 Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with all your might, for in the realm of the dead, where you are going, there is neither working nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom. This is evident's God is preferring to our flesh' not our spirit man. From dust we came, and dust we shall return. pretty simple to understand: God is talking about our flesh, after we die-the dead know nothing, the body has no hate, no love, no jealousy, no wisdom nor knowledge left in them: Then we need to ask ourselves where do our spirit man end up? Well by looking at the scriptures, it is an abomination against God if we choose to deny Him. Our spirit man will end up somewhere "Below can give us a good example. {Luke 16:23-24} “And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments… And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.” Or maybe if we have chosen to obey our Lord and savor, follow His Commandment's stayed under His Covenant and followed His Law, then I am positive our spirit man will return back to God.
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| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Only True Follower Of Christ:::**see Proof**:: by brocab: 4:51pm On Jan 14, 2023 |
The Word of God say's: how to recognize a false prophet; when the prophesy doesn't come true, so we all know about the false prophesies the Watchtower had giving over the years. joyandfaith: |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Only True Follower Of Christ:::**see Proof**:: by Janosky: 9:09pm On Jan 14, 2023 |
brocab: 1 Samuel 3:20 & 1 Samuel 16:6 are in your Bible, prophet Samuel's FALSE prophecy on Eliab. The disciples FALSE predictions, Matthew 26:31-35,59-75. Oga, enjoy your WAILING.  |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Only True Follower Of Christ:::**see Proof**:: by brocab: 1:57am On Jan 15, 2023 |
Anybody who prophesy's and it doesn't come to past are false prophets. None of the verses you have written down: make any sense. Now I am reading {1 Samuel 16:6-7} And this is what it say's: 6 When they arrived, Samuel saw Eliab and thought, “Surely the Lord’s anointed stands here before the Lord.” This is not prophesying-Samuel is guessing by his outside appearance about Eliab, just as God had pointed it out 'to Samuel, obviously it's just as the scripture explains. 7 But the Lord said to Samuel, “Do not consider his appearance or his height, for I have rejected him. The Lord does not look at the things people look at. People look at the outward appearance, but the Lord looks at the heart.” This is not prophesying: people in genial always look at the outside appearance, judging people. Eventually by their fruit we will know them. It seems every verse you bring to this forum, none of them line up with the topic, you throw any random verses back to sender. So now you are claiming Jesus to be a false prophet? {Matthew 26:31-35, 59} did happen, Jesus told Peter he will deny Jesus three times, and Peter did just as the Lord describe he will, and the night Jesus was arrested, the disciples ran away, Just the way Jesus said: they will. 59 The chief priests and the whole Sanhedrin were looking for false evidence against Jesus so that they could put him to death. So the Pharisees were looking to catch Jesus out: and these are known as false prophesies to you.  {1 Samuel 3:19-21} The Lord was with Samuel as he grew up, and he let none of Samuel’s words fall to the ground. And all Israel from Dan to Beersheba recognized that Samuel was attested as a prophet of the Lord. The Lord continued to appear at Shiloh, and there he revealed himself to Samuel through his word. How is it, you call Samuel a false prophet? When in fact the Lord had been with Samuel all his days: not allowing Samuel's words drop to the ground-Samuel was recognized by Dan to Beersheba. Janosky you may never believe the truth about Christ? " You may never experience the Lord speaking through you-but when God speaks through man to His People it's usually prophesying, But the times when the Watchtower prophesied we know it wasn't from the Lord, the end of the world didn't happen. "Not yet.. Janosky: 2 Likes |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Only True Follower Of Christ:::**see Proof**:: by Janosky: 3:12pm On Jan 15, 2023 |
brocab:Brocab,read the Screenshots PROVEN your mumu WAILING & TWISTING of the holy scriptures. Did you see the same Hebrew lexicon 559 "SAID" @ 1 Samuel 16:6-7? "Samuel saw Eliab & SAID" in verse 6. Yahweh SAID to Samuel in verse 7. Anything you said ahead of an event, you have UTTER ,SAY a prophecy/prediction. 1 Samuel 16:6, Samuel the prophet made a FALSE prophecy.
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| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Only True Follower Of Christ:::**see Proof**:: by brocab: 12:56am On Jan 16, 2023 |
This is what you need to be doing Janosky look at the scriptures, don't just stop at two verses-read the hole chapter: this way you will get a better picture how it's written. Samuel wasn't prophesying into the future, He was sent by God to bless the new future King. You are looking to far a head of yourself, you think Samuel is now a false prophet because a "thought came to Samuel's mind: the Lord heard Samuel, and said to him, Eliab is not the one. So Samuel continualed to search for the one the Lord had chosen. We all have had these thought's about somebody-if we haven't heard it from somebody else, we may end up finding out the hard way about people we have thought about. {Samuel 16:6-12} 6 When they arrived, Samuel saw Eliab and "thought, “Surely the Lord’s anointed stands here before the Lord.” Samuel wasn't prophesying out loud, claiming Eliab was the future King. It's Just a "thought' that came into Samuel's mind: and the Lord heard Samuel, and answered him. We all think everyday: without speaking it into existence: 7 But the Lord said to Samuel, “Do not consider his appearance or his height, for I have rejected him. The Lord does not look at the things people look at. People look at the outward appearance, but the Lord looks at the heart.” 8 Then Jesse called Abinadab and had him pass in front of Samuel. But Samuel said, “The Lord has not chosen this one either.” 9 Jesse then had Shammah pass by, but Samuel said, “Nor has the Lord chosen this one.” 10 Jesse had seven of his sons pass before Samuel, but Samuel said to him, “The Lord has not chosen these.” 11 So he asked Jesse, “Are these all the sons you have?” “There is still the youngest,” Jesse answered. “He is tending the sheep.” Samuel said, “Send for him; we will not sit down until he arrives.” 12 So he sent for him and had him brought in. He was glowing with health and had a fine appearance and handsome features. Then the Lord said, “Rise and anoint him; this is the one.” So where do you get Samuel falsely prophesying from? what because he had a "thought he was just thinking" that maybe Eliab may have been the one because of his appearance and his height: But Samuel was directed by the Lord to anoint the youngest and the smallest 'David to be King of Israel. This is not prophesying into the future, Samuel was there with the Lord directing him to anoint the future King.. Janosky: 2 Likes |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Only True Follower Of Christ:::**see Proof**:: by Janosky: 9:55am On Jan 16, 2023 |
brocab: Why is this brocab so stupid and deluded? At 1 Samuel 16:6, was Eliab anointed as said by Prophet Samuel? If Samuel's prophetic prediction was correct,why would Jehovah step in and give him correction? The screenshot evidence of the meaning of FUTURE has further exposed you Brocab as incurable LIAR. The NIV translators , your Trinitarian mentors, saw Hebrew 559 lexicon in the manuscript in verse 6 and CHANGED "SAY, SAID, UTTER" to "thought." In verse 7, did your Trinitarian mentors use "thought" for Hebrew lexicon 559? Brocab,Carry your mumu out of this forum jare.
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| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Only True Follower Of Christ:::**see Proof**:: by brocab: 11:29am On Jan 16, 2023 |
Janosky:I rest my case: this is proof Janosky don't study the scriptures. do you read anywhere where Samuel prophesies about Eliab, "NO" I read Samuel "THOUGHT" Elisb may have been the One.. Obviously you have no idea, even God knows our thoughts. But you don't serve our God Lord and savior. You serve another.. You haven't got the slightest idea how to bring yourself admitting you are wrong..pride always gets in your way: when you are trying so hard to confuse the Word of God: it say's it 'as it's written. If a child of God can read, then the child would understand to read the hole chapter, it's so simple to understand: Samuel "thought" that Eliab could be anointed and be the future king because Eliab was of strong structure. We can see-Samuel "thought" as a man, he was looking on the outside appearance, not what was in this man's heart. So the Lord reminded Samuel and said: don't look at his appearance nor his height, look at his heart. Jesse: last youngest son David was brought up from the fields to be anointed by God: David was chosen to be king over Israel. You are wasting your time trying the twist words: future means how it's written: it doesn't mean any other word: it must be hard for a JW to admit you are wrong, {1 Samuel 16:13-14} So Samuel took the horn of oil and anointed him in the presence of his brothers, and from that day on the Spirit of the Lord came powerfully upon David. Samuel then went to Ramah. Now the Spirit of the Lord had departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the Lord tormented him. Janosky:You obviously left this one out of your argument: 1) to say, speak, utter 1a) (Qal) to say, to answer, to say in one's heart, to think, to think 'in the English Language is another term used for thought.. Janosky: 1 Like |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Only True Follower Of Christ:::**see Proof**:: by brocab: 11:36pm On Jan 16, 2023 |
Admit you were wrong, no one is against you Janosky, we are all here to learn and I was happy to be at service to support you to see and understand the scriptures. about {1 Samuel 16:6-13} This is what we are all here for: learn.. You can believe another doctrine if you wish, but the bottom line is' we all have the written Word of God, but as usual people from all walks of life have tried to destroy God's Word, some like yourself try using the dictionary, trying to confuse and twist the Word of God, "sound's like? finding ways to turn the scriptures in other directions. The bible is actually written so a young child of God can understand the scriptures, it's so simple especially when we know we have the Holy Spirit teaching us. Just the way the lord said He will. It's those people who refuse to study the scriptures that seem to backslide-people may think they have it all together-but we know them by their fruit, their walk with God is almost nil. It's easy to slip backwards; especially when people who just sit around in Churches, temples etc,, they don't read their bibles-expecting Elders or Pastor to lead them, these are candidates who run after other doctrines. {1 Timothy 4:1} Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demon {1 Timothy 6:3-5} If anyone teaches otherwise and does not consent to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which accords with godliness, he is proud, knowing nothing, but is obsessed with disputes and arguments over words, from which come envy, strife, reviling, evil suspicions, useless wranglings of men of corrupt minds and destitute of the truth, who suppose that godliness is a means of gain. From such withdraw yourself. We have chosen to withdraw ourselves from your doctrine-and this sounds more like your arguments you have with us, full of pride, knowing nothing, but you are obsessed with disputes and arguments over words, from which come envy, strife, reviling, evil suspicions. this is the Watchtower against God. Just be honest: it doesn't matter how much you try, to rip the Word of God apart-the Word of God will always come back bouncing. Janosky: |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Only True Follower Of Christ:::**see Proof**:: by brocab: 12:56am On Apr 04, 2023 |
Not according to Max 'Jehovah witnesses are not the true followers of Christ. So this is proof: Jehovah witnesses are lairs, they don't believe. that in Christ 'we will be saved. MaxInDHouse: |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Only True Follower Of Christ:::**see Proof**:: by Sand2022: 4:31pm On Apr 05, 2023 |
1. Jesus instructed his followers to preach the gospel--> Unlike other churches who oly broadcast on TV or have their member go in packs on the streets distributing church invites, jehovahs witnesses are the only group of christians who still patiently o from house to house teaching people I will agree with you on the last point. While not insulting the true men of God out their, I don't like the segregation in churches where people are treated on how fat their pocket are. They probably don't have a sacred cow especially when the sin is public knowledge. We want to be careful here though since they do a lot of cover ups. 2. Yes door to door has been their most effective way. That is commendable although we can't be sure if all who engage in it do so whole heartedly. There is a lot of pressure from the leadership to move people to do it. But it's a plus. They aren't the only ones doing it anyway, but they come prominent. But don't think that televangelism, crusades, market or street evangelism isn't a good method of preaching. No, I am not with you on that. The churches are doing a great job on that. They need to be commended as well. Whichever method any church chooses, God can bless it. Especially when these evangelism is backed by miracle they have huge fellowership than what a JW can get while doing door to door. 3. JWs are the ONLY ones who don't celebrate this pagan holidays. Really? No. I would rather say that they are among the few that don't celebrate pagan holidays. Altho their restriction on birthdays is laughable. But pls don't judge others on this. Christ might view things differently. I think christians shouldn't celebrate Christmas but I am careful not to judge. 4. Yup. They don't tithe or obligate members to bring money. That's a huge plus if you ask me. Many churches have turned themselves to business houses. It is sickening. Does that then mean that they are the only true Christians? No. I mean don't be funny. You can say God is PROBABLY happy with them and yes, individually some faithful persons their could be saved by God since they believe in Jesus. But the only true Christian religion? I don't even see how that is remotely possible. First, they are not the first Christian church nor do they have link to the first christians. Secondly, assuming God has changed His mind on the church that has such link, they haven't produced any supernatural or divine miracle from above to show that God has made such a change. So it's very risky to think they are the ONLY true Christian church. Can't we judge it by few positive attributes they have? No. If you read the bible, you will see countless, I mean countless errors made by the Israelites, who were God's chosen people. Now, you can't because of such idolatry and great moral decay say that God had rejected the Jews. If you do that, you would err. However it was until when God did show that on Pentecost that we know God had changed from using the Jews as a nation. JWs can't wake up and then claim God has chosen them and you fall for that. Don't be gullible. If I will be kind enough, I will say wait and see if God will pure out his spirit on them to show divine approval. Even at that, they won't be the ONLY ones. Others have received such divine approval. Don't judge other churches based on there few mistakes as imperfect humans. God's view do sometimes differ from what we think. Yes, give them their plus where they deserve but don't think they are the ONLY Christian church. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Only True Follower Of Christ:::**see Proof**:: by brocab: 9:11pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
Jehovah witnesses do tithe: do some study on it before you begin believing every word they give you, and this is what they believe: According to Max; a soul and faithful member of the Watchtower. MaxInDHouse:So if they refuse Christ: then they don't follow Christ. So "they are not Christian, they don't work for Christ they work for Jehovah. And they don't see Christ to be the only true God and creator of all creation. Sand2022: |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Only True Follower Of Christ:::**see Proof**:: by Sand2022: 10:01am On Apr 27, 2023 |
brocab: Jehovah's witnesses don't refuse Christ. Where did you get that from? If you want to criticize, do so constructively, don't import lies just to discredit them. Different denomination with there differing understanding of God word. JWs see Jesus as a son of God, and that he is not equal to God. Although majority of scholars would say Jesus and God are the same, there is a strong argument against that, and I am yet to see any scholar who has settled this arguments without any plausible objection. What should be paramount is that we all worship the same God. Unless God directly tells you that your position is correct, don't feel you are above others in God's sight. No one has monopoly over truth. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Only True Follower Of Christ:::**see Proof**:: by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:30am On Apr 27, 2023 |
At times some just stubbornly argue blindly so there's no need wasting your precious time with them!  Sand2022: |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Only True Follower Of Christ:::**see Proof**:: by brocab: 2:01am On Apr 28, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:Now if Max didn't write this: I suppose many would believe you that the Jehovah witnesses don't deny Christ. As soon as you refuse Christ as our Lord and savor- and calling it a blind belief you have denied Christ. Sand2022:There is no where in the bible where we read Jesus is "Just" a son of God-No Jesus is "THE" Son of God, NOT A SON. He is not one of the angels, nor is He Lucifer's brother. {1 John 5} Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God, and everyone who loves the father loves his child as well. This is how we know that we love the children of God: by loving God and carrying out his commands. It say's God Love's His Child-Jesus is "THE" Son of God. Sand2022:I will say it again "As soon as you refuse Christ as our Lord and savor- and calling it a blind belief you have denied Christ. We obviously don't worship the same God-so to answer your misunderstanding of the Word of God-Yes God does show us in Word: who's saved: One must be Born again before he can enter into the Kingdom of God. {Matthew 28:19} “Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit.” Do the JW believe in baptism? Baptism is a requirement for being considered a member of Jehovah's Witnesses-after reading some documents on line about the Watchtower: it is now said: the Jehovah witnesses refuse to be baptized in the Holy Spirit, but rather be baptized under the Watchtower organisation "So by Max's comment, it is very unlikely you are saved in the Name of Jesus Christ. Sand2022: 1 Like |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Only True Follower Of Christ:::**see Proof**:: by Sand2022: 11:08pm On May 15, 2023 |
brocab: I always advise that one should criticize constructively and truthfully. You can't lack the basic understanding of JWs beliefs and criticise them constructively. You will just be attacking a straw man. JWs believe in Jesus and their lord and savior. They do baptism. That is the basic thing. It is true they require you cover a certain book, but they still baptize. That's the important thing. It's obvious you just want to force them out the equation even when it doesn't balance. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Only True Follower Of Christ:::**see Proof**:: by brocab: 12:44am On May 16, 2023 |
The book you write about, put's all it's focus on how to serve the Watchtower-not about serving Christ: and you are baptized through your organisation, to serve your organisation, Yeah you say you believe in baptism, but what is the point about baptism when you refuse the Holy Spirit. You don't believe anybody coming to Christ: should be saved: not until they prove themselves as true and faithful servants to the Watchtower. No one will be baptized until they complete the rules and regulations this booklet has in store, this is for you to serve and obey 'laws, commandments, staying under the watchtowers covenant: "as we can see "the Watchtower had screwed everything up, this is not the same Covenant Jesus made with His people, {Luke 22:10-20} And he took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to them, saying, "This is my body, which is given for you. Do this in remembrance of me." And likewise the cup after they had eaten, saying, "This cup that is poured out for you is the new covenant in my blood. This is a life given blood-and yet the Jehovah witnesses refuses to give Blood to save lives. {John 14:6} Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." The Watchtower teaches-Jehovah is coming back to save his people, the Watchtower don't believe Jesus is coming back to save his people. The Word say's no one will enter into the Kingdom of God, without Jesus. So it's obvious someone in the Watchtower is dancing with the devil-trying to twist the Word of God-it's common sense, if Jehovah is coming back 'then it's obvious, Jehovah is Jesus. Sand2022: |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Only True Follower Of Christ:::**see Proof**:: by iamSi(m): 10:49am On Nov 23, 2023 |
A true Jehovah's witness will never do this 1. Jesus instructed his followers to preach the gospel--> Unlike other churches who oly broadcast on TV or have their member go in packs on the streets distributing church invites, jehovahs witnesses are the only group of christians who still patiently o from house to house teaching people 1 Like |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Only True Follower Of Christ:::**see Proof**:: by capnies: 11:31am On Nov 23, 2023 |
WizPrince1: YOU'RE 100% CORRECT GOD NEVER CREATED ANY HELLFIRE. IT'S ONE OF THEIR BRAINWASHING TECHNIQUES |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Only True Follower Of Christ:::**see Proof**:: by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:32am On Nov 23, 2023 |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Only True Follower Of Christ:::**see Proof**:: by iamSi(m): 8:14pm On Nov 25, 2023 |
Am looking at it from another angle , it may be subtle attack from an apostate . Like a decoy , or sarcasm....... MaxInDHouse: |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Only True Follower Of Christ:::**see Proof**:: by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:23pm On Nov 25, 2023 |
iamSi: That's way too deep! |
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