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Re: Ghanaian - Nkrumah Is Greater Than Mandela by Nobody: 1:21pm On Dec 13, 2013 |
Typical Nigga Attitude (TNA) - Operation Pull Everyone Down. Africans Sick Mentality. 1 Like |
Re: Ghanaian - Nkrumah Is Greater Than Mandela by cap28: 1:26pm On Dec 13, 2013 |
The usual suspects involved in Nkrumah's removal: Documents Expose U.S. Role in Nkrumah Overthrow By Paul Lee Special to SeeingBlack.com Talk about Black Politics! Click here. Declassified National Security Council and Central Intelligence Agency documents provide compelling, new evidence of United States government involvement in the 1966 overthrow of Ghanaian President Kwame Nkrumah. The coup d'etat, organized by dissident army officers, toppled the Nkrumah government on Feb. 24, 1966 and was promptly hailed by Western governments, including the U.S. The documents appear in a collection of diplomatic and intelligence memos, telegrams, and reports on Africa in Foreign Relations of the United States, the government's ongoing official history of American foreign policy. Prepared by the State Department's Office of the Historian, the latest volumes reflect the overt diplomacy and covert actions of President Lyndon B. Johnson's administration from 1964-68. Though published in November 1999, what they reveal about U.S. complicity in the Ghana coup was only recently noted. Allegations of American involvement in the putsche arose almost immediately because of the well-known hostility of the U.S. to Nkrumah's socialist orientation and pan-African activism. Nkrumah, himself, implicated the U.S. in his overthrow, and warned other African nations about what he saw as an emerging pattern. "An all-out offensive is being waged against the progressive, independent states," he wrote in Dark Days in Ghana, his 1969 account of the Ghana coup. "All that has been needed was a small force of disciplined men to seize the key points of the capital city and to arrest the existing political leadership." "It has been one of the tasks of the C.I.A. and other similar organisations," he noted, "to discover these potential quislings and traitors in our midst, and to encourage them, by bribery and the promise of political power, to destroy the constitutional government of their countries." http://www.seeingblack.com/x060702/nkrumah.shtml |
Re: Ghanaian - Nkrumah Is Greater Than Mandela by Quatermaine: 1:36pm On Dec 13, 2013 |
cap28: The usual suspects involved in Nkrumah's removal: Oga, what is your point? |
Re: Ghanaian - Nkrumah Is Greater Than Mandela by Adflex1(m): 1:37pm On Dec 13, 2013 |
Who was Nkrumah cuz i cant find his Name on the List,.Even the Unborn kids Know's Nelson Mandela..KEn Saro wiwa was also a Great Man. |
Re: Ghanaian - Nkrumah Is Greater Than Mandela by totalbaby(f): 1:39pm On Dec 13, 2013 |
Let's put sentiments aside. Between the two of them, who impacted Africa the most? I"ll say Nelson Mandela is more popular/famous than Kwame Nkrumah but is not greater. Nelson Mandela did a lot for South Africa(his own country) while Kwame was more pan- african and helped a lot of other African countries. So I"d say Kwame Nkrumah was greater, however Nelson Mandela was more popular. Being more popular does not mean greater. But he definately is the greatest South African. 3 Likes |
Re: Ghanaian - Nkrumah Is Greater Than Mandela by cap28: 1:42pm On Dec 13, 2013 |
chucky234: Nkruma was partly fighting for his own interest and decided to enslave Ghanians when he finally got hold of power,he would have made Gold Coast his family property were it not for the coup. Responses like this reveal why African political history needs to be taught in our secondary and higher institutions in Nigeria. HOw can any black African in their right mind say that Nkrumah was fighting for his own interest after every thing he went through with the colonialists in Ghana? Madiba was NOT victorious over apartheid because the majority of blacks in south Africa are still poor, landless and unemployed, victory over apartheid would have resulted in land reform and redistribution of the wealth stolen by the whites which did not happen. 6 Likes |
Re: Ghanaian - Nkrumah Is Greater Than Mandela by BlackHuman(m): 1:44pm On Dec 13, 2013 |
*stammers*....em,em whatttt offff OJUKWU? |
Re: Ghanaian - Nkrumah Is Greater Than Mandela by cap28: 1:49pm On Dec 13, 2013 |
Quatermaine: My point is that Nkrumah was removed from power by the United States because of his long term goal to free Africans from european economic and mental enslavement. Nkrumah coined the word "Neo-colonialism": Neocolonialism (also Neo-colonialism) is the geopolitical practice of using capitalism, business globalization, and cultural imperialism to influence a country, in lieu of either direct military control or indirect political control, i.e. imperialism and hegemony.[1] The term neo-colonialism was coined by Ghanaian president Kwame Nkrumah, to describe the socio-economic and political control that can be exercised economically, linguistically, and culturally, whereby promotion of the culture of the neo-colonist country facilitates the cultural assimilation of the colonised people and thus opens the national economy to the multinational corporations of the neo-colonial country. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neocolonialism 4 Likes |
Re: Ghanaian - Nkrumah Is Greater Than Mandela by Quatermaine: 1:56pm On Dec 13, 2013 |
cap28: After he was removed, did He continue with his goal?.. Nope!. And that makes him greater, bah?! Nkrumah coined the word "Neo-colonialism":how does this help? 1 Like |
Re: Ghanaian - Nkrumah Is Greater Than Mandela by holuwashezy(m): 2:01pm On Dec 13, 2013 |
trovert: I AGREE 100% MANDELA IS JUST SOUTHAFRICAN BLACK HEROE....MANDELA IS OVERHYPED ND OVERATED IN RELATION TO AFRICA If Mandela was imprisoned in Nigeria then, am sure he wouldn't outlives 3yrs especially during Abacha period. The likes of MKO, MUSA YAR'ADUA, BOLA IGE e.t.c sacrifice their life and Nigeria government who benefits from the struggles of these Patriots doesn't celebrates them. Why sud we celebrates south african and Ghanian? When we have forgotten the labour of heroes past. |
Re: Ghanaian - Nkrumah Is Greater Than Mandela by Quatermaine: 2:01pm On Dec 13, 2013 |
Get the picture guys! Madiba "I have fought against white domination, and I have fought against black domination. I have cherished the ideal of a democratic and free society in which all persons will live together in harmony with equal opportunities. It is an ideal which I hope to live for, and to see realised. But my Lord, if needs be, it is an ideal for which I am prepared to die." Respects sire!. I hope to do better works than you did, so help me God. In Jesus Name. Amen! |
Re: Ghanaian - Nkrumah Is Greater Than Mandela by cap28: 2:02pm On Dec 13, 2013 |
Quatermaine: He did continue, but he was forced out of Ghana and was living in exile in Guinea. Its very difficult and dangerous to continue to challenge western powers without adequate security around you especially when you are in a foreign country. 2 Likes |
Re: Ghanaian - Nkrumah Is Greater Than Mandela by mrrock: 2:05pm On Dec 13, 2013 |
@Mikeapollo. Thank you my brother. The real African hero is Kwame Nkrumah. Nkrumah himself was the inspiration behind Mandela's struggle in the first place. 3 Likes |
Re: Ghanaian - Nkrumah Is Greater Than Mandela by Ishilove: 2:09pm On Dec 13, 2013 |
Okija_juju:Hmmm... |
Re: Ghanaian - Nkrumah Is Greater Than Mandela by chucky234(m): 2:10pm On Dec 13, 2013 |
JeffPhoenix: the words of an ignorant fool who hasnt learned anythin after readin through all the comments.... if you do not know abt Nkrumah just shut the Bleep up and let the scholars debate on it!!!... I respect Mandela and Nkrumah alot and therefore will not compare both of them as they are both Great Africans!! the reason why some people may say Mandela was greater might be cause they feel the situation in his country brought the brave out of him making him do all he did... he was courageous, strong enough to withstand time in prison ans still achieve his dream, Nkrumah was also jailed, released and did what he wanted to do but mind you... he was veeeery instrumental in the freedom of other african countries... he might have mismanaged our funds at a point but that will not cloud his good deeds!!!... The both of them were great men and would be celebrated for ever!!!!!!!And where is this Ghanian akita anu crawled from, your Nkrumah was only pushed to the forefront because he was stealing Ghana's gold money to fund the trips of those negotiating with Europeans for independence. You prolly knows nothing about the man called Zik of Africa and effort in helping the people of Gold Coast, your Nkrumah was an errand boy to Zik, go figure. Its easier to negotiate with whitemen for freedom than fighting apartheid, Mandela and Lurther Martin King fought a similar fight and that is a fight for only the brave not power drunk men like Nkrumah. Lurther and Malcom fought the whitemen for providing seperate poor hospitals,schools,libraries,markets and so on for the black race while they use the very best,that was the kind of fight Mandela and his followers fought. Hope you stick that into your void brain, chronic goon. 1 Like |
Re: Ghanaian - Nkrumah Is Greater Than Mandela by chucky234(m): 2:11pm On Dec 13, 2013 |
JeffPhoenix: the words of an ignorant fool who hasnt learned anythin after readin through all the comments.... if you do not know abt Nkrumah just shut the Bleep up and let the scholars debate on it!!!... I respect Mandela and Nkrumah alot and therefore will not compare both of them as they are both Great Africans!! the reason why some people may say Mandela was greater might be cause they feel the situation in his country brought the brave out of him making him do all he did... he was courageous, strong enough to withstand time in prison ans still achieve his dream, Nkrumah was also jailed, released and did what he wanted to do but mind you... he was veeeery instrumental in the freedom of other african countries... he might have mismanaged our funds at a point but that will not cloud his good deeds!!!... The both of them were great men and would be celebrated for ever!!!!!!! |
Re: Ghanaian - Nkrumah Is Greater Than Mandela by valdprof: 2:15pm On Dec 13, 2013 |
Jamey Maxwell: Who the “F” iz Kwame Nkrumah?ask google |
Re: Ghanaian - Nkrumah Is Greater Than Mandela by cap28: 2:16pm On Dec 13, 2013 |
chucky234: And where is this Ghanian akita anu crawled from, your Nkrumah was only pushed to the forefront because he was stealing Ghana's gold money to fund the trips of those negotiating with Europeans for independence. can you please stop spreading falsehoods about Nkrumah all over this thread and learn to debate with facts. 3 Likes |
Re: Ghanaian - Nkrumah Is Greater Than Mandela by solomon111(m): 2:16pm On Dec 13, 2013 |
sakaguchi: On a serious note, we are doing ourselves great disservice in trying to phatom out the best from these duo. Why? Is their not enough room for several Africans to stand as best in the podium of history.would you mind telling me what awolowo did for the BLACK RACE? 1 Like |
Re: Ghanaian - Nkrumah Is Greater Than Mandela by cap28: 2:19pm On Dec 13, 2013 |
chucky 234 this is for you: The Lies Of The Neo-Colonialists by Duke Tagoe The anti-Nkrumah pro-imperialists lobby in Ghana is once more up and making its usual ugly noises. These anti-national and anti-progress groups of elite worshipping political hags continue to applaud the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and the MI5 of Britain for toppling the Nkrumah Government. We have no difficulty with their hatred of Nkrumah and their disdain for the liberation of the masses from poverty and exploitation but at the very least they must learn to respect the truth. Even their Masters in London and Washington are more honest than they are. It is strange that at a time when the declassified documents of the CIA reveal that the coup against Nkrumah was plotted in Western Capitals and that the Ghanaian soldiers and politicians in Ghana make the false claim that Nkrumah was overthrown because he was a dictator. As a fact the only reason for toppling the Nkrumah Government was that he and the Convention People’s Party stood in the way of the imperialist powers in their attempt to reduce Africans to hewers of wood and drawers of water. In any case, the effort to devalue the work of the Osagyefo is futile and Nkrumah will continue to be celebrated from year to year. http://www.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/features/artikel.php?ID=230973 1 Like |
Re: Ghanaian - Nkrumah Is Greater Than Mandela by chucky234(m): 2:25pm On Dec 13, 2013 |
PetroDolla2: I think you are the one talking with your aNuS. anuofiaWhat a clueless deluded discombobulated chronic birdbrain. |
Re: Ghanaian - Nkrumah Is Greater Than Mandela by gbensright: 2:27pm On Dec 13, 2013 |
NO COMPARISON....THE PEOPLE OF DIFFERENT ERA FAR APART |
Re: Ghanaian - Nkrumah Is Greater Than Mandela by chucky234(m): 2:29pm On Dec 13, 2013 |
cap28:There is no smoke without fire bro. |
Re: Ghanaian - Nkrumah Is Greater Than Mandela by chucky234(m): 2:36pm On Dec 13, 2013 |
cap28: chucky 234 this is for you:Nkrumah no doubt fought a good fight to liberate the African continent from the grip of whitemen but apartheid is a different kind of fight all together, SA is a multi-race nation but Goldcoast was not and never will. Zik and Nkrumah stood for the liberation of the African continent especially West Africa,but Madiba stood for something different and special. |
Re: Ghanaian - Nkrumah Is Greater Than Mandela by Quatermaine: 2:41pm On Dec 13, 2013 |
mrrock: @Mikeapollo.Nkrumah must have had his inspiration from someöne, say Mr A and Mr A will also have his source of inspiration from another person, say Mr B and the list goes on and ön. Implying that the true hero of africa is unknown! S.m.h! |
Re: Ghanaian - Nkrumah Is Greater Than Mandela by emmanuel4758(m): 2:46pm On Dec 13, 2013 |
black ghan ;Da with dark sense |
Re: Ghanaian - Nkrumah Is Greater Than Mandela by Okijajuju1(m): 2:47pm On Dec 13, 2013 |
Ola def2: you ar a big F.O.O.L!!! If you say so.. Who am I to argue with a reetard .. 2 Likes |
Re: Ghanaian - Nkrumah Is Greater Than Mandela by osystein(m): 2:52pm On Dec 13, 2013 |
Why should anybody be the greatest African? The white man simply gave up colonialism and apartheid cause it was embarrassing, not that any African leader defeated them. If they want to, they can easily re-colonise Africa or reinstate apartheid, because africans are still weak. The only great Africans are those who can make Africa strong and be able to compete with the rest of the world. 1 Like |
Re: Ghanaian - Nkrumah Is Greater Than Mandela by cap28: 2:54pm On Dec 13, 2013 |
The CIA, Kwame Nkrumah, and the Destruction of Ghana By Black History Kwame Nkrumah (21 September 1909 – 27 April 1972) was the first President of the first free nation in Africa, and a founding father of the Pan-Africanist movement. His dream was to turn Ghana into a modern industrial utopia – a society shaped by the power of science that would serve as a model for the rest of the African continent. At the heart of his plan was the Volta Dam, a hydroelectric power plant that would provide Ghana with all the cheap power that it would need to initiate an industrial revolution. Rise to Power In 1935 Kwame Nkruma left Ghana for the United States as a student, receiving a BA from Lincoln University, Pennsylvania in 1939. During that time, he was elected president of the African Students Organization of America and Canada. He was also exposed to the philosophy and teachings of Marcus Garvey, and the Communist teachings of a US based Trotskyist intellectual cohort. Nkrumah later credited these ideas with teaching him 'how an underground movement worked'. In 1947, Nkrumah returned to Ghana. Using the political mechanisms he saw there, he returned to Ghana and within two years created the country's first political party. Within two years after that, he was swept into power as the first Black Prime Minister in Africa under the British colonial system. With the threat of uprisings abroad and financial crisis at home, Britain reluctantly set Ghana free on March 6, 1957. Nkrumah easily won election as the country's first President, and chose a flag with the Black star –inspired by Marcus Garvey's Black Star Line – at its center to represent the new nation. Nkrumah also launched a series of popular social projects on behalf of his people (who loved him), including The Organization of African Unity (OAU). The OAU was established on 25 May 1963. One year later, Malcolm X established the Organization for African American Unity (OAAU) modeled after Kwame's idea. The Volta Dam If Ghana was to become a modern industrial nation, it needed both industry and the power to fuel that industry and provide the continent with its first industrial revolution. The Volta dam was originally the brain child of Britain, but the colonial power was shrinking from the world stage and in doing so, began to withdraw its financial and project support from its former colonies. During his campaign, Nkrumah's platform was founded on the idea of modernization, but without funding for the Volta river project, there was no way that dream could become a reality. Nkrumah set back out for America to sell the project to then President Eisenhower who took an immediate interest. Ghana at the time was literate, wealthy (as a result of its already profitable cocoa exports, and made a great business prospect for America. And the benefits to America as a young world superpower were two-fold: First, the manufacturing process for a new metal called aluminum had been discovered, and aluminum ore was abundant in Ghana. Second, the worlds energy prices were raising, and having access to a cheap source of electricity with which to process aluminum would have greatly increased the profit margins and reduced processing costs for the manufacture of the metal. President Eisenhower contacted California based Kaiser Aluminum, the world's largest aluminum manufacturer, to exploit the opportunity and fund the project. The assumption that America would mine Ghana's bauxite and use the Volta dam's electricity meant two new large income streams and industries that would assure Nkrumah's dream of an industrial revolution. However, Kaiser Aluminum had different plans. They would only use Ghana's cheap electricity – importing aluminum ore from other places in the world, and then exporting the aluminum back to America. The thought was that if the operation became too profitable, Nkrumah could nationalize the dam project and cut America out completely. Nkrumah was crushed. The aluminum industry would have done for Ghana what the steel industry had done for the United States. Nkrumah ultimately had to agree to America's terms if he wanted the dam to be built, but as an additional stipulation, he had to raise $30 million on his own. He sought help from the World Bank, an operation initially set up to fund the recovery effort in post WWII Europe, but which later became a source of funding for the rest of the world. Nkrumah's young new country was now indebted to the World Bank, and the dam became a leash by which the United States could control Nkrumah and exploit the country. The exploitation of Ghana went into full swing; it became a haven for American and European industrialists who were interested in taking advantage of the country's desire to modernize. White corporations would repeatedly dupe officials into purchasing whatever could be sold, no matter how inappropriate (a Belgian company sold the country snow plows¬. Yea, snow plows. In Africa). The Volta Dam was completed on January 22, 1966. One month later, Nkrumah was overthrown by a CIA backed coup. http://www.modernghana.com/news/363669/1/the-cia-kwame-nkrumah-and-the-destruction-of-ghana.html |
Re: Ghanaian - Nkrumah Is Greater Than Mandela by mrrock: 2:56pm On Dec 13, 2013 |
@Quatermaine. No, nobody inpired Nkrumah. Again, as @Mikeapollo stated Nkrmah founded the struggle. Before Nkrumah no other African have thought about going against the whites. Nkrumah gave birth to Mandela as far as the word FREEDOM concerned. |
Re: Ghanaian - Nkrumah Is Greater Than Mandela by PAGAN9JA(m): 2:57pm On Dec 13, 2013 |
ImHotep-X: your dumbarse malcolm x and co have nothing to d o with us Africans! They didnt do anything for us and have nothing to do with us or our problems. malcolm x was a gay who only knew how to speak. thats all. 1 Like |
Re: Ghanaian - Nkrumah Is Greater Than Mandela by Quatermaine: 3:01pm On Dec 13, 2013 |
mrrock: @Quatermaine.Nkrumah had no source of inspiration. Bigest Lie.. Every Great man, I repeat, Every Great man had his source of inspiratiön from some where. |
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