rudedough:

You can curse Nigeria all you want but believe me Bro, i don't know who the hell Nkrumah Is but Nelson Mandela rings a bell to everyone. Even kids born in the New Millennium.

Please tell us about Nkrumah. Who was he and what did he do for Africans? Sorry i can't use Google, i want to hear about Nkrumah from the horses mouth.

Thanks

cap28:

Its very worrying that anyone in Nigeria irrespective of their age can actually make the above statement without feeling embarrassed.

Its a bit like an American saying they don't know who the hell George Washington was.

or a black American saying they don't know who the hell Malcolm X was.

rudedough:

You should wear your cap of reasoning when you talk next time. Am i a Ghanian? Why in the world should i know about Ghana history? Let's ask Ghanians who Festus Okotie-Eboh is, shall we?

adconline: Nkrumah who wanted to be a life president for life and was a divisive figure. Mandela spent 27yrs of his productive life in jail; came out; unified his country and forgave his oppressors. Nkrumah on the hand, introduced trade union act to crush trade unionists who opposed his policies; introduced detention act- which allowed security forces to detain opposition and trade unionists without trial. He made laws which made his party, the only party in the country and a life president. NKrumah never went to jail but crushed opposition.. Imagine that with Madiba's action of giving his jailers front row seating during his inauguration. Nkumah like Mugabe is the reason why Africa is a dark continent while Mandela is the shining light of what Africa needs to do to lift itself from poverty and underdevelopment

chucky234: What a clueless deluded discombobulated chronic birdbrain.

eGuerrilla:

Are you just being deliberately obtuse?
What does it matter who quoted who.

I don't know who PetroDolla2 is, beyond the fact that he comes across as a narrow-minded micro-nationalist. The very antithesis of Nkrumaism.

cap28:

Where is your evidence that Nkrumah wanted to be a life president?

Why would a divisive person found an organisation which championed the cause of African unity ie the OAU?

The west hated Nkrumah becauase he was trying to elevate the African from a position of subservience, as a result he had many enemies within and outside Ghana and this is why he had to jail his enemies. Many of these people were agents of the west who were trying to remove him from office.

I respect Mandela for his selflessness, perserverance and endurance but I don't think it was right for him to allow a regime of brutal racists get away with the atrocities that they committed against the black people of south Africa. To make matters worse he even allowed them to hold on to everything that they stole from that country - that is no victory my friend.


Mugabe is hated by the west for the same reason that Nkrumah was hated by the west - he refused to be used as a puppet of western multinationals and banking interests.

In as much as Mandela did his best he was unable to deliver victory to his people in the form of jobs, land ownership and decent housing, what is the point of removing apartheid if Africans remain economically excluded?
South Africa today is one of the most unequal societies in the world and that should indicate to you that forgiving your oppressor is not the solution. Mandela did his best but even his best was not enough to overcome the mighty forces of white supremacy and capitalism.

Do you think Europeans would have forgiven Africans for killing thousands of their people? History has shown us that Europeans perpetrate violence against the weak, time and time again and expect the weak to forgive them, this should tell you one thing - only the weak forgive while the powerful abuse and exploit. This is an important lesson that many Africans have refused to learn from and as they say he who does not learn from history is doomed to repeat it .

We Africans are yet to understand that unless you can defend yourself from external aggression you will remain a target for abusers and exploiters.

rudedough:

You can curse Nigeria all you want but believe me Bro, i don't know who the hell Nkrumah Is but Nelson Mandela rings a bell to everyone. Even kids born in the New Millennium.

Please tell us about Nkrumah. Who was he and what did he do for Africans? Sorry i can't use Google, i want to hear about Nkrumah from the horses mouth.

Thanks

PetroDolla2:

Ma guy, just watch that stvpid mouth of yours,huh?

Yes, Nkrumah stood for pan-Africanism, which was a great concept for that era. As at today, pan-Africanism has long lost its appeal, so stop deceiving yourself. Just go through various posts and threads on naiaraland and you’ll be ashamed to be an African, not to talk of a pan Africanist. It is now completely irrelevant. Even the current leaders know that.

Thank God most discerning people see it now as an unrealistic concept. Shine your eyes

adconline: Nkrumah who wanted to be a life president for life and was a divisive figure. Mandela spent 27yrs of his productive life in jail; came out; unified his country and forgave his oppressors. Nkrumah on the hand, introduced trade union act to crush trade unionists who opposed his policies; introduced detention act- which allowed security forces to detain opposition and trade unionists without trial. He made laws which made his party, the only party in the country and a life president. NKrumah never went to jail but crushed opposition.. Imagine that with Madiba's action of giving his jailers front row seating during his inauguration. Nkumah like Mugabe is the reason why Africa is a dark continent while Mandela is the shining light of what Africa needs to do to lift itself from poverty and underdevelopment

drnoel: sometime I wonder how history remembers people. Kwame Nkrumah who was a dictator, wanted to be life president and only left the sit after a coup was used to force him out. Tell me, what dignity did that man have?

Who knows, for all we know history may later remember IBB, Abacha and OBJ as saviours of Nigeria

Jigga_man101: Did Mandela really free South Africans? Are black South Africans living better than when they were under apartheid. The answer is no to be really free u have to be free, economically,mentally and physical, when u look at both black Americans and South Africans the are slaves because they depend on whites for these things. In the case of black South Africans they don't realize the origin of the problem so attack innocent african migrants.

Tumisang: What is it to you what Mandela did or didn't do for his country and people?! And since we are slaves and everyone else in the continent is economically free then the people in red have no business coming to our country seeking greener pastures!!