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Re: Any Hint Of A Coup Will Disintegrate Nigeria by djon78(m): 8:09pm On Dec 17, 2013
Which coup? GEJ is in total and complete control of the security apparatus, infact his loyalists who have sworn with their lives to protect him are in charge of all the important apparatus and these his loyalist cut across all the geo political zones of this country. Even the north is divided, there are past powerful clique that felt slighted for the past decade especially the Abacha clique, they have beef with OBJ, IBB, Abdulsalami, Useni and other cabals who have been running this country for the past 40years, and the unique thing that these Abacha clique are better and much sophisticated and more intelligent mafias than the OBJ clique. So all the other powerful northern cliques who felt slighted are on GEJ's camp including the middle belt headed by General Gowon.

So you guys should not worry, there will be no loophole for coup. Even in the SW the real political gladiators are watching and are on the side of GEJ example Afenifere, forget about Tinubu, he is a green horn, he is still a neophyte, he is just new into the power game and the old political warhorse in SW will clip Tinubus wings soon.

I want to adress my Igbos brothers, let us not let anybody tag us any name because of the past, let us fight to get our rightful place in Nigeria, it belongs to all of us. And by the end of this GEJ administration is over we all from North, South, East and West will be equal stakeholders in this project Nigeria, and this will be a take off for the country to rise into mighty greatness.

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Re: Any Hint Of A Coup Will Disintegrate Nigeria by PointB: 8:15pm On Dec 17, 2013
Raggedy_Ann: It's clear to everyone how volatile the situation is. That's why I think they would not risk a coup. They wouldn't risk a war where they didn't have the legitimacy of Government, thereby becoming rebels and losing sympathy from the West. Impeachment is the only option.

Even that is not an option. It will lead to same or similar situation.

It should be noted that the campaign to oust the President start shortly after he was elected. As such any abrupt impeachment will be inflame already charged situation. A poster once asked: Who will carry out the impeachment order? What if he refuses, and the Army (or section of it) is loyal to him? I rather boko haram blow themselves up if they can live with a southern president from a minority tribe.


Anyway, GEJ has performed far more better all several past president, including the epistle writer. He thus deserve a second term.

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Re: Any Hint Of A Coup Will Disintegrate Nigeria by Nobody: 8:31pm On Dec 17, 2013
djon78: Which coup? GEJ is in total and complete control of the security apparatus, infact his loyalists who have sworn with their lives to protect him are in charge of all the important apparatus and these his loyalist cut across all the geo political zones of this country. Even the north is divided, there are past powerful clique that felt slighted for the past decade especially the Abacha clique, they have beef with OBJ, IBB, Abdulsalami, Useni and other cabals who have been running this country for the past 40years, and the unique thing that these Abacha clique are better and much sophisticated and more intelligent mafias than the OBJ clique. So all the other powerful northern cliques who felt slighted are on GEJ's camp including the middle belt headed by General Gowon.

So you guys should not worry, there will be no loophole for coup. Even in the SW the real political gladiators are watching and are on the side of GEJ example Afenifere, forget about Tinubu, he is a green horn, he is still a neophyte, he is just new into the power game and the old political warhorse in SW will clip Tinubus wings soon.

I want to adress my Igbos brothers, let us not let anybody tag us any name because of the past, let us fight to get our rightful place in Nigeria, it belongs to all of us. And by the end of this GEJ administration is over we all from North, South, East and West will be equal stakeholders in this project Nigeria, and this will be a take off for the country to rise into mighty greatness.
If as fortified as military men like JTU Aguiyi-Ironsi, Yakubu Gowon, Murtala Muhammad and Muhammadu Buhari were and were overthrow, the President can also be overthrown in a coup.
Re: Any Hint Of A Coup Will Disintegrate Nigeria by PointB: 8:35pm On Dec 17, 2013
Ola Johnson:
If as fortified as military men like JTU Aguiyi-Ironsi, Yakubu Gowon, Murtala Muhammad and Muhammadu Buhari were and were overthrow, the President can also be overthrown in a coup.

So what's stopping you guy? No yorooba general to pull the trigger?
Re: Any Hint Of A Coup Will Disintegrate Nigeria by nduchucks: 8:37pm On Dec 17, 2013
Onlytruth: All they need is a very good reason to end it... like a coup.

Given the position of this Eze and his likes, it is safe to say that these people will welcome a coup as a way to get them their biafran dream.
Re: Any Hint Of A Coup Will Disintegrate Nigeria by ckkris: 8:37pm On Dec 17, 2013
Ola Johnson:
If as fortified as military men like JTU Aguiyi-Ironsi, Yakubu Gowon, Murtala Muhammad and Muhammadu Buhari were and were overthrow, the President can also be overthrown in a coup.
This ain't 1966
Re: Any Hint Of A Coup Will Disintegrate Nigeria by Abagworo(m): 8:40pm On Dec 17, 2013
Raggedy_Ann: It's clear to everyone how volatile the situation is. That's why I think they would not risk a coup. They wouldn't risk a war where they didn't have the legitimacy of Government, thereby becoming rebels and losing sympathy/recognition from the West. They've got too much to lose. Impeachment is the only option.

Assuming there's a coup, who will be the ones to fight the military? Is it Afam? All the trade unions be it ASUU, NLC, NMA, NBA, ASUP etc are already craving for regime change, so all I foresee is a nationwide jubilation if such a divine intervention occurs.
Re: Any Hint Of A Coup Will Disintegrate Nigeria by PointB: 8:43pm On Dec 17, 2013
ndu_chucks:

Given the position of this Eze and his likes, it is safe to say that these people will welcome a coup as a way to get them their biafran dream.

We will welcome:

1. Restructuring of the country in line with true fiscal federalism
2. Regionalism with weak central government
3. A fair and just Nigeria, or
4. Biafra

If a coup can guarantee any of these, by all mean let it happen. But I sincerely doubt an Igboman will be the trigger man. Ndu_chucks, over to your people (hausa/fulani) or the Yoroobas. To be fair, I think other major tribes have had a fair share of leading coupists, it's the yorooba turn. Let's see if they are just indeed all mouth and no action! cheesy cheesy cheesy grin grin grin tongue tongue tongue

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Re: Any Hint Of A Coup Will Disintegrate Nigeria by Nobody: 8:45pm On Dec 17, 2013
PointB:

Even that is not an option. It will lead to same or similar situation.

It should be noted that the campaign to oust the President start shortly after he was elected. As such any abrupt impeachment will be inflame already charged situation. A poster once asked: Who will carry out the impeachment order? What if he refuses, and the Army (or section of it) is loyal to him? I rather boko haram blow themselves up if they can live with a southern president from a minority tribe.


Anyway, GEJ has performed far more better all several past president, including the epistle writer. He thus deserve a second term.


I agree with you totally. But don't undermine the mischief afoot. This is not about wether GEJ is doing well or not - it's about his plan to restore a kind of balance that is unacceptable to a certaIn factIon. They've worked hard to discredit his achievements, second-guessed him at every turn, and used the media to distort reality ( perception is reality they know). The Nigerian people are gullible and take to propaganda easily, they trust the hype more than their own eyes. That's what happens when people aren't educated.

Impeachment has been part of the plan all along.

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Re: Any Hint Of A Coup Will Disintegrate Nigeria by PointB: 8:45pm On Dec 17, 2013
Abagworo:

Assuming there's a coup, who will be the ones to fight the military? Is it Afam? All the trade unions be it ASUU, NLC, NMA, NBA, ASUP etc are already craving for regime change, so all I foresee is a nationwide jubilation if such a divine intervention occurs.


So go ahead and organise one.
But don't complain when you start hearing, it's hausa/fulani coup, or yorooba coup! cheesy cheesy grin grin Funny that some folks still don't know the Nigeria of 2013. The subsidy protest taught them nothing.

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Re: Any Hint Of A Coup Will Disintegrate Nigeria by arsenalwenger: 8:46pm On Dec 17, 2013
payless:


Have you forgotten we have a democratic government? I am surprised at you for having the audacity to recommend for certain people to be escorted to the gallows for execution. I hope Jonathan listens to your advise if he's on nairanland. I can guarantee you that your people in the North are the ones to face the repercussion of such action. How dare you recommend people be arrested for making statement against the government of the day? Are we back to Abacha days where many people were picked up for venting their opposition to military rule? Where were you when the same people who are now termed as "enemies of the government" were fighting for Jonathan to take the rein of the presidency?

I have never seen a mod so deep in tribal politics like you.
Please save us this crocodile response, any1 has the right to air his view, being it a moderator or ordinary member.

In an organized society, the likes of Obj and IBB will be in jail. In china or north korea, they would have been purged for the society to progress.

It is only in African that leaders who have stolen the country blind, destroy the economic insfrastructure, social order and what have you, that will still be regarded as elder statemen.

Obasanjo and Ibb have no moral leverage to advise Gej. They are worst demon that should be purged from a sane society.

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Re: Any Hint Of A Coup Will Disintegrate Nigeria by Abagworo(m): 8:48pm On Dec 17, 2013
PointB:

We will welcome:

1. Restructuring of the country in line with true fiscal federalism
2. Regionalism with weak central government
3. A fair and just Nigeria,

If a coup can guarantee any of these, by all mean let it happen. But I sincerely doubt an Igboman will be the trigger man. Ndu_chucks, over to your people (hausa/fulani) or the Yoroobas. To be fair, I think other major tribes have had a fair share of leading coupists, it's the yorooba turn. Let's see if they are just indeed all mouth and no action! cheesy cheesy cheesy grin grin grin tongue tongue tongue

These 3 things are the things Jonathan failed to do. Go back to 2009 when he assumed office and read what. Most people expected of him.

1)SNC to discuss Nigeria in a peaceful period and not now that he has polarized Nigeria

2) Fiscal federalism based on the existing States and not region as you advocate.

3) Justice and equity which we've seen he couldn't achieve with Oduah as a glaring example.

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Re: Any Hint Of A Coup Will Disintegrate Nigeria by gramci: 8:50pm On Dec 17, 2013
PointB:

That's why I suggests he use the yorooba boys in the army. Are they not man enough? Who does he want to do his dirty job?

odua boys no get liver grin

please dont remind me of Diya and Adisa
Re: Any Hint Of A Coup Will Disintegrate Nigeria by Nobody: 8:51pm On Dec 17, 2013
PointB:

So what's stopping you guy? No yorooba general to pull the trigger?
I've not said anybody is planning to kill him in a coup. FYI it is not all coups that are bloody. The ones of 1975 and 1985 are bloodless.
Re: Any Hint Of A Coup Will Disintegrate Nigeria by ckkris: 8:56pm On Dec 17, 2013
Raggedy_Ann:


I agree with you totally. But don't undermine the mischief afoot. This is not about wether GEJ is doing well or not - it's about his plan to restore a kind of balance that is unacceptable to a certaIn factIon. They've worked hard to discredit his achievements, second-guessed him at every turn, and used the media to distort reality ( perception is reality they know). The Nigerian people are gullible and take to propaganda easily, they trust the hype more than their own eyes. That's what happens when people aren't adequately educated.

Impeachment has been part of the plan all along.

YES INDEED. But they forget that if crude oil stops flowing, they can't pay their soldiers, and it will be hell in the barracks.
Re: Any Hint Of A Coup Will Disintegrate Nigeria by Nobody: 8:56pm On Dec 17, 2013
PointB:

We will welcome:

1. Restructuring of the country in line with true fiscal federalism
2. Regionalism with weak central government
3. A fair and just Nigeria, or
4. Biafra

If a coup can guarantee any of these, by all mean let it happen. But I sincerely doubt an Igboman will be the trigger man. Ndu_chucks, over to your people (hausa/fulani) or the Yoroobas. To be fair, I think other major tribes have had a fair share of leading coupists, it's the yorooba turn. Let's see if they are just indeed all mouth and no action! cheesy cheesy cheesy grin grin grin tongue tongue tongue
Biafra died on 15/01/1970.
Re: Any Hint Of A Coup Will Disintegrate Nigeria by PointB: 8:58pm On Dec 17, 2013
Abagworo:

These 3 things are the things Jonathan failed to do. Go back to 2009 when he assumed office and read what. Most people expected of him.

1)SNC to discuss Nigeria in a peaceful period and not now that he has polarized Nigeria

2) Fiscal federalism based on the existing States and not region as you advocate.

3) Justice and equity which we've seen he couldn't achieve with Oduah as a glaring example.

1. Nigeria has ever been polarised, there is no better time to talk than now that the cracks are re-emerging, that's what I believe the national conference is about.

2. Whether base on the existing state or regions, is better than current system.

3. Oduah committed no crime. Such justice should start from past military heads of states, the Tinubu, Obj, and Buhari the murderer etc. I bet you won't go there.

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Re: Any Hint Of A Coup Will Disintegrate Nigeria by djon78(m): 8:59pm On Dec 17, 2013
ckkris: This ain't 1966

Don't mind him, all those era you are talking about, many folks were groping in the dark, this era is a different ball game, b4 it was only the northern power bloc but now there are many power blocs even in the South South that was neglected and nothing before. Infact this the mistake that the cabals made was allowing GEJ to have a chance at the seat of power, Odili and even Donald Duke though they look stronger outwardly would have still been pupets in the hands of these cabals but GEJ is a different ball game, he is with typical Ijaw charcteristics, they don't talk too much but they are deadly and people of action, that cannot be intimidated, if you think it is a lie ask other SS people or why did u think OBJ fought Alameighsia bitterly, he was not the only deeply corrupt governors of that era, Odili, Ibori, Tinubu and Orji Kalu, Igbinedion were worse corrupt but OBJ did not touch them, rather he faced Alameighsia because he was more threat to him. But he never knew that GEJ was even a tougher Ijaw character than even Alameighsia, but that is the way God works because he wants to level the faulty and false foundation.

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Re: Any Hint Of A Coup Will Disintegrate Nigeria by PointB: 9:00pm On Dec 17, 2013
Ola Johnson:
I've not said anybody is planning to kill him in a coup. FYI it is not all coups that are bloody. The ones of 1975 and 1985 are bloodless.

Whether bloody or bloodless, get your boys in the Army to plot and execute it, or forever remain silent and coward. No one is going to do yorubas dirty job for them. Do it yourself!

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Re: Any Hint Of A Coup Will Disintegrate Nigeria by Nobody: 9:01pm On Dec 17, 2013
gramci:

odua boys no get liver grin

please dont remind me of Diya and Adisa
Maybe you should remind us how Odumegwu Ojukwu escaped from "Biafra" in the guise of seeking peace. Why did he insist he must be the one to seek whereas his aides were the ones hitherto seeking peace?
Re: Any Hint Of A Coup Will Disintegrate Nigeria by gramci: 9:01pm On Dec 17, 2013
Ola Johnson:
I've not said anybody is planning to kill him in a coup. FYI it is not all coups that are bloody. The ones of 1975 and 1985 are bloodless.

what about diya's
Re: Any Hint Of A Coup Will Disintegrate Nigeria by PointB: 9:05pm On Dec 17, 2013
Ola Johnson:
Maybe you should remind us how Odumegwu Ojukwu escaped from "Biafra" in the guise of seeking peace. Why did he insist he must be the one to seek whereas his aides were the ones hitherto seeking peace?

He stood his ground for close to three years. Besides we have discuss that here endlessly. No we are talking about what a coup could do to the country, do you mind sticking to the topic?
Re: Any Hint Of A Coup Will Disintegrate Nigeria by Nobody: 9:06pm On Dec 17, 2013
PointB:


So go ahead and organise one.
But don't complain when you start hearing, it's hausa/fulani coup, or yorooba coup! cheesy cheesy grin grin Funny that some folks still don't know the Nigeria of 2013. The subsidy protest taught them nothing.
The govt does not necessarily need a failed coup to shake it, just the demonstration of the SNG will do just that.
Re: Any Hint Of A Coup Will Disintegrate Nigeria by pandriod: 9:08pm On Dec 17, 2013
ndu_chucks:

Given the position of this Eze and his likes, it is safe to say that these people will welcome a coup as a way to get them their biafran dream.

If coup is what is going to make ibo parasites living in my land to fuckoff, then coup we MUST have.
Re: Any Hint Of A Coup Will Disintegrate Nigeria by Nobody: 9:09pm On Dec 17, 2013
PointB:

Whether bloody or bloodless, get your boys in the Army to plot and execute it, or forever remain silent and coward. No one is going to do yorubas dirty job for them. Do it yourself!
I will leave you now for your emotion to calm.
Re: Any Hint Of A Coup Will Disintegrate Nigeria by gramci: 9:11pm On Dec 17, 2013
Ola Johnson:
Maybe you should remind us how Odumegwu Ojukwu escaped from "Biafra" in the guise of seeking peace. Why did he insist he must be the one to seek whereas his aides were the ones hitherto seeking peace?


lol shame on you, see shameless generals from oduas finest stock


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVNu77xRr9k&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DyVNu77xRr9k#


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3c0WXtsgC8&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DT3c0WXtsgC8#
Re: Any Hint Of A Coup Will Disintegrate Nigeria by otokx(m): 9:11pm On Dec 17, 2013
The days of coup are long gone in Nigeria but GEJ should strengthen his SSS and DMI, the visit of some people to Ota farms actually raised a red flag in my subconscious.
Re: Any Hint Of A Coup Will Disintegrate Nigeria by PointB: 9:13pm On Dec 17, 2013
Ola Johnson:
The govt does not necessarily need a failed coup to shake it, just the demonstration of the SNG will do just that.

I saw them inhaling tear gas in Ojota. By the way where is Bakare now? Has he stopped cursing buhari?
Re: Any Hint Of A Coup Will Disintegrate Nigeria by wirinet(m): 9:13pm On Dec 17, 2013
Biafran Igbos and militant Ijaws have one thing in common - chest beating. They pound their chest louder than a silver back gorilla trying to show he is the alpha male.

Who says a coup cannot succeed? That was what the Muslim Brotherhood thought in Egypt until they were booted out by the military. And up till today nothing dey happen. The only obstacle to a successful coup is the unity of the military, especially the army. If the military is not divided, there is nothing anybody or group can do. Maybe all these chest beaters have never experienced a military coup. When a military occurs, it is akin to a war situation until the coup plotters take full control of the country. The army rolls out tanks into the streets, the army occupies all strategic installations and areas. Airports, seaports and borders are closed and every relevant person in the government is killed or arrested. You think militants, biafrans and even Boko harm can face tanks, planes and artillery fire. Pray we never experience another coup and an opposed bloody coup for that matter. If a bloody coup should happen most of our politicians would jump into their private jets and zoom off, Asari. and tompolo be in Benin Republic tending their businesses and their wealth. It is me and you - Yoruba, Hausa, Igbo, Ijaw, Idoma, etc, that will suffer the consequence.

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Re: Any Hint Of A Coup Will Disintegrate Nigeria by Nobody: 9:20pm On Dec 17, 2013
OP is spot on.
Re: Any Hint Of A Coup Will Disintegrate Nigeria by Nobody: 9:20pm On Dec 17, 2013
otokx: The days of coup are long gone in Nigeria but GEJ should strengthen his SSS and DMI, the visit of some people to Ota farms actually raised a red flag in my subconscious.

cool
Re: Any Hint Of A Coup Will Disintegrate Nigeria by Nobody: 9:22pm On Dec 17, 2013
Ola Johnson:
Biafra died on 15/01/1970.

do you really believe that an idea can die?
it can only "die" if it lives elsewhere or replaced with a better idea
an idea can never die.

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