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All States Apart From Lagos Are Incapable Of Confederal Existence by Nobody: 6:06pm On Dec 27, 2013
Lagos generated N219 billion in 2012, three times its annual wage bill of N76.5 billion.

Rivers,which generates the second highest IGR of N66.2 billion in 2012, but has an annual wages bill of N96 billion.

Edo made N18.9 billion revenue but salaries bill of N28 billion

Cross River generated N12.7 billion though it pays N22 billion wages annually.
Kano = N24 billion revenue, salary N36 billion yearly.

Kaduna, N11.5 billion , salaries N27.4 billion

Zamfara’s internally generated revenue is N2.5 billion in 2012, while its annual wage bill is N13.2
billion;

Yobe generated N1.7 billion, and has a yearly salaries bill of N18 billion;

Adamawa’s N23 billion salaries, IGR of N4.6 billion.
Bayelsa State generated only N3 billion in 2011, but pays N48 billion in salaries

Nasarawa made N4.1 billion in 2012 but spends N24 billion yearly in salaries;

Sokoto generated N3.8 billion in 2010 and spends N16.8 billion on annual wages; and

Kogi (N3.1 billion in 2012 salaries N44 billion

Kwara (salaries, N11 billion; revenue, N7.2 billion),

Benue(revenue, N8.4 billion; salaries, N34.8 billion)
Katsina (salaries, N14.4 billion; revenue, N5 billion),
Bauchi (salaries, 26 billion; revenue, N4.1 billion),

Ondo (revenue, N10.1 billion; salaries, N48 billion),

Plateau (revenue, N7 billion; salaries, N20.7 billion),

Kebbi (revenue, N5.4 billion; salaries N12 billion),

Niger (revenue, N3.7 billion; salaries N31.2 billion), and

Gombe (salaries, N14.4; revenue, N3.7 billion).

Abia (salaries, N30 billion; revenue, N3 billion)

Akwa Ibom (salaries, N33.2 billion; revenue, N13.5 billion)
Anambra (revenue, N6.1 billion; salaries, N16.3 billion),

Borno (salaries, N20.7 billion; revenue, N2.4 billion),

Delta (revenue, N45.5 billion; salaries, N85.2 billion) and

Ebonyi (salaries, N16.8 billion; revenue, N14 billion).

Ekiti (salaries N24 billion, revenue N3.8
billion),
Imo (revenue N6.8 billion, salaries N22.8 billion),
Jigawa (salaries N33.5 billion, revenues N1.4 billion),
Osun (salaries N22.8 billion, revenue N5 billion),
Oyo (salaries N49 billion, revenue N14 billion)
Taraba (revenue N3.4 billion, salaries N21.6 billion).
Re: All States Apart From Lagos Are Incapable Of Confederal Existence by Nobody: 8:02pm On Dec 27, 2013
Too bad . The problems we are having in this country is our leaders especially at the state level, and come to think of it the same lazy loud mouthed governors will still use same free money gotten frm the FG to pay press to insult the president anyhow.
Re: All States Apart From Lagos Are Incapable Of Confederal Existence by Standing5(m): 8:04pm On Dec 27, 2013
Wow!
That's crazy. See Bayelsa doing great there.
Re: All States Apart From Lagos Are Incapable Of Confederal Existence by Garrithe1st: 8:17pm On Dec 27, 2013
Lagos generated N219 billion in 2012, three times its annual wage bill of N76.5 billion.

Rivers,which generates the second highest IGR of N66.2 billion in 2012, but has an annual wages bill of N96 billion

Why is the Wage bill of Rivers State higher than that of Lagos State which is far more populated??

angry angry angry
Re: All States Apart From Lagos Are Incapable Of Confederal Existence by Nobody: 8:29pm On Dec 27, 2013
Garri the 1st:

Why is the Wage bill of Rivers State higher than that of Lagos State which is far more populated??

angry angry angry
most of d population(esp non lagosians) don't work in LASG MDAs!
Re: All States Apart From Lagos Are Incapable Of Confederal Existence by seanet02: 9:40pm On Dec 27, 2013
Ogun is not part of the dependent states
Re: All States Apart From Lagos Are Incapable Of Confederal Existence by Nobody: 9:48pm On Dec 27, 2013
What happens if the niger-delta states decides to control their resources?
Re: All States Apart From Lagos Are Incapable Of Confederal Existence by gramci: 9:59pm On Dec 27, 2013
chukwudi44: What happens if the niger-delta states decides to control their resources?

It will end the geographical expression called Nigeria

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Re: All States Apart From Lagos Are Incapable Of Confederal Existence by Brimmie(m): 9:59pm On Dec 27, 2013
Hmmmmn
Re: All States Apart From Lagos Are Incapable Of Confederal Existence by redsun(m): 10:01pm On Dec 27, 2013
I was surprise to hear from someone recently that civil servants can still easily away with just going to work only to pick up their pay cheques,while the rest of the days of the month are spent at home going about their own businesses and loitering about with nobody giving a damn about what they did to earn their wages in the 21st century where resources are tight.

Absolute waywardness.Half of the work force are ghost workers,coordinated by the governors and top civil servants to divert the people's funds.

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Re: All States Apart From Lagos Are Incapable Of Confederal Existence by Pukkah: 10:10pm On Dec 27, 2013
At N48b, the wage bill of Bayelsa is scary.

It's close to that of Oyo at N49b and higher than that of Edo at N28b, Cross River at N22b and Kano at N36b!

Kogi at N44b is also not far from Oyo at N49b.

Something is wrong with Bayelsa and Rivers' wage bills although the wage bills of all the states are generally high.

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Re: All States Apart From Lagos Are Incapable Of Confederal Existence by Pukkah: 10:11pm On Dec 27, 2013
chukwudi44: What happens if the niger-delta states decides to control their resources?

That's the best thing that can happen to Nigeria.
Re: All States Apart From Lagos Are Incapable Of Confederal Existence by Pukkah: 10:13pm On Dec 27, 2013
Garri the 1st:

Why is the Wage bill of Rivers State higher than that of Lagos State which is far more populated??

angry angry angry

Something is terribly wrong with Rivers' figures except this statistics is incorrect.

Rivers' figures waves a red flag. How can the civil service of Rivers be more expensive to run than that of Lagos?
Re: All States Apart From Lagos Are Incapable Of Confederal Existence by Pukkah: 10:15pm On Dec 27, 2013
click2cbn: most of d population(esp non lagosians) don't work in LASG MDAs!

But the MDAs serve the higher population of Lagos.

Isn't it?
Re: All States Apart From Lagos Are Incapable Of Confederal Existence by Nobody: 10:22pm On Dec 27, 2013
Pukkah:

Something is terribly wrong with Rivers' figures except this statistics is incorrect.

Rivers' figures waves a red flag. How can the civil service of Rivers be more expensive to run than that of Lagos?

I was equally troubled when Amaechi mentioned that figure during the course of a Channels TV interview a few months ago.
Could the fact that Rivers state pays the best wages also be a factor?

RIVERS FUNDS DROP BY N7BN, SAYS AMAECHI

12 December 2013

The governor disclosed that the state wage bill had increased from N2.5 billion when he assumed office to N7.8 billion with an expected further increase with the payment of salaries of the 13,200 newly recruited teachers in the state.
Source
Re: All States Apart From Lagos Are Incapable Of Confederal Existence by kel4soft: 10:23pm On Dec 27, 2013
Garri the 1st:

Why is the Wage bill of Rivers State higher than that of Lagos State which is far more populated??

angry angry angry

Because not all the population in Lagos work in their civil servants unlike in Rivers State where practically most indigenes are civil servants.
Re: All States Apart From Lagos Are Incapable Of Confederal Existence by kel4soft: 10:26pm On Dec 27, 2013
eGuerrilla:

I was equally troubled when Amaechi mentioned that figure during the course of a Channels TV interview a few months ago.
Could the fact that Rivers state pays the best wages also be a factor?


Source

The Governor took over the payment of primary schools from the Local Govt after building those model schools.

The LGA chairmen were struggling to meet up their wages before now. I think Rivers state teachers earns the highest in Nigeria. Don't also forget an increase of that wage bill is expected next year after the recruiting of additional 13000 teachers.

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Re: All States Apart From Lagos Are Incapable Of Confederal Existence by Nobody: 10:33pm On Dec 27, 2013
kel4soft:

The Governor took over the payment of primary schools from the Local Govt after building those model schools.

The LGA chairmen were struggling to meet up their wages before now. I think Rivers state teachers earns the highest in Nigeria. Don't also forget an increase of that wage bill is expected next year after the recruiting of additional 13000 teachers.

That's an interesting revelation you have up there.

By the way, here are some of the points I captured during his Channels TV interview

eGuerrilla: The only legacy I want to leave behind is thriving university. We plan to bring in our brothers from the diaspora...Rivers state pays the best wages.

We met a wage bill of 2.5 billion and embargo on employment.
Our current wage bill is 8.5 billion

Justifying high expenditure:
The route that takes you to the airport cost X billion
The road to Owerri was done by us.
The road to Aba is being done by us - 12.5 billion...

I am hoping for a debate.

Clincher: Amaechi is willing to bring his receipts and expenditure to a debate
https://www.nairaland.com/1447970/governor-amaechi-live-channelstv#18267638

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Re: All States Apart From Lagos Are Incapable Of Confederal Existence by adconline(m): 10:36pm On Dec 27, 2013
I'm tired of this silly argument. Where does FG get the money?Let each control all their resources and pay taxed to FG.
Re: All States Apart From Lagos Are Incapable Of Confederal Existence by atlwireles: 10:47pm On Dec 27, 2013
The civil service is a major employer in SS states. That's why Rivers and Delta have a higher wage bill than Lagos.
Re: All States Apart From Lagos Are Incapable Of Confederal Existence by Mightymanna(m): 10:52pm On Dec 27, 2013
I have just seen this in dailytrust newspaper its amazing to see little states with heavy workforce many of them are ghost workers thats why the state governments overburden themselfs with unnecessary task all becouse of oyel money imagine 400 allready employed people as governor aides,
Re: All States Apart From Lagos Are Incapable Of Confederal Existence by Garrithe1st: 11:33pm On Dec 27, 2013
atlwireles: The civil service is a major employer in SS states. That's why Rivers and Delta have a higher wage bill than Lagos.

Why??

Who are the civil servants rendering service to??

Or do the states just employ people off the streets even when there is no meaningful service for them to render to the good people of the state??
Re: All States Apart From Lagos Are Incapable Of Confederal Existence by 3kay945(m): 12:10am On Dec 28, 2013
Naija is a funny place to be..imagine those figure
Re: All States Apart From Lagos Are Incapable Of Confederal Existence by atlwireles: 12:16am On Dec 28, 2013
Garri the 1st:

Why??

Who are the civil servants rendering service to??

Or do the states just employ people off the streets even when there is no meaningful service for them to render to the good people of the state??

What do you mean by why? Delta State has a very high service civil workforce. Simply because Uduaghan turned the civil service into a jobs program. I don't understand your beef.
Re: All States Apart From Lagos Are Incapable Of Confederal Existence by Pukkah: 12:18am On Dec 28, 2013
kel4soft:

The Governor took over the payment of primary schools from the Local Govt after building those model schools.

The LGA chairmen were struggling to meet up their wages before now. I think Rivers state teachers earns the highest in Nigeria. Don't also forget an increase of that wage bill is expected next year after the recruiting of additional 13000 teachers.

eGuerrilla:

That's an interesting revelation you have up there.

By the way, here are some of the points I captured during his Channels TV interview


https://www.nairaland.com/1447970/governor-amaechi-live-channelstv#18267638

Your explanations make sense but there's still a problem.

The (1)many (2) highly-paid teachers must be teaching some pupils. Are the parents of those pupils paying some form of tax to the state government? I doubt it.

When the government renders any form of service, it must look for a way to recover the cost from the people, directly or indirectly.

If it fails to do that it means the service is unsustainable. This is what I think is the problem in Rivers.

Remove the receipts from oil money or federal revenue and Rivers would be in financial problem.

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Re: All States Apart From Lagos Are Incapable Of Confederal Existence by Pukkah: 12:23am On Dec 28, 2013
atlwireles:

What do you mean by why? Delta State has a very high service civil workforce. Simply because Uduaghan turned the civil service into a jobs program. I don't understand your beef.

Delta has a revenue of N45.5 billion and pays salaries that's almost twice as that - N85.2 billion!

This simply means Delta cannot afford the 'high service civil workforce' (I don't know the meaning of this) either in terms of their headcount or salary range or both.

This also means the productivity per head (civil servant) in Delta is much lower than that of Lagos.

There's a major problem here.

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Re: All States Apart From Lagos Are Incapable Of Confederal Existence by atlwireles: 12:29am On Dec 28, 2013
Pukkah:

Delta has a revenue of N45.5 billion and pays salaries that's almost twice as that - N85.2 billion!

This simply means Delta cannot afford the 'high service civil workforce' (I don't know the meaning of this) either in terms of their headcount or salary range or both.

This also means the productivity per head (civil servant) in Delta is much lower than that of Lagos.

There's a major problem here.

We don't see a problem, give us 50% resource control and that problem is gone for ever. By the way, that N45B IGR is 90% payee tax. With the civil service workforce a major contributor.
Re: All States Apart From Lagos Are Incapable Of Confederal Existence by Pukkah: 12:33am On Dec 28, 2013
atlwireles:

We don't see a problem, give us 50% resource control and that problem is gone for ever. By the way, that N45B IGR is 90% payee tax. With the civil service workforce a major contributor.

I support resource control but oil as an extractive resource does not really indicate hardwork and ingenuity. Revenue from such activities should be used to fund capital projects and not consumption activities. Ideally, salaries should be fully funded from taxes of all citizens with something left for capital projects.

Oil revenue aside, the present structure of Delta is not sustainable. Something must be done to address it.
Re: All States Apart From Lagos Are Incapable Of Confederal Existence by seanet02: 12:44am On Dec 28, 2013
Ogun state is not on this list.
Amosun is working
Re: All States Apart From Lagos Are Incapable Of Confederal Existence by stevecantrell: 12:52am On Dec 28, 2013
Nigeria is indeed a strange place. Disintegrate, and it will become even strang-er.
Re: All States Apart From Lagos Are Incapable Of Confederal Existence by atlwireles: 1:02am On Dec 28, 2013
Pukkah:

I support resource control but oil as an extractive resource does not really indicate hardwork and ingenuity. Revenue from such activities should be used to fund capital projects and not consumption activities. Ideally, salaries should be fully funded from taxes of all citizens with something left for capital projects.

Oil revenue aside, the present structure of Delta is not sustainable. Something must be done to address it.

There is nothing wrong with the current structure of delta state. In the context of Nigeria, there is absolutely nothing the state can do at this time. We could trim the wage bill by 50%, what happens to almost 25,000 deltans, that will be loosing their jobs? Delta state will receive about N300B in revenues this year. N85B for civil service payroll is in order. The day we have authority over 600,000 barrels of crude pumped from the state daily. We will rearrange our prioritizes. As for hardwork and ingenuity, I will gladly compare delta to any state in this Nation. Be rest assured, we will be right at the top.
Re: All States Apart From Lagos Are Incapable Of Confederal Existence by bappahman: 1:32am On Dec 28, 2013
Bayelsa should be investigated, seriously over 40bill, pls how many ppl are there in the state?

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