atlwireles:

Do you know many countries in the world still use their Narrow gauge tracks. Why did your hero not start the standard gauge tracks, when they had the chance to do so?? After the standard gauge tracks are commissioned, the narrow gauge will still be there .

Obiagelli:
are you trying to compare resources of a state government to the federal government?

Tadon200: ol boy, yeye dey smell. come 2015 we shall bundle jonaman out of Aso rock.

Obiagelli:
standard guage in what year? BTW which hero are you talking about?
Can you tell us which country is currently rehabilitating narrow guage

Sincere 9gerian:
You'r not even sure you'll be alive in 2015 let alone looking for how to bundle another man. It is only the living that can dream of doing that.

atlwireles:

Successful narrow gauge railway

The heavy duty 3 ft 6 in (1,067 mm) narrow gauge railways in Australia (e.g. Queensland), South Africa and New Zealand show that if the track is built to a heavy-duty standard, performance almost as good as a standard gauge line is possible. 200-car trains operate on the Sishen-Saldanha railway in South Africa, and high-speed tilt-trains in Queensland (see below). Another example of a heavy-duty narrow gauge line is EFVM in Brazil. 1,000 mm (3 ft 3 3⁄8 in) gauge, it has over-100-pound rail (100 lb/yd or 49.6 kg/m) and a loading gauge almost as large as US non-excess-height lines. It sees multiple 4,000 hp (3,000 kW) locomotives and 200+ car trains. In South Africa and New Zealand, the loading gauge is similar to the restricted British loading gauge, and in New Zealand some British Rail Mark 2 carriages have been rebuilt with new bogies for use by Tranz Scenic (Wellington-Palmerston North service), Tranz Metro (Wellington-Masterton service) and Veolia (Auckland suburban services).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narrow_gauge_railway

Sincere 9gerian:
You'r not even sure you'll be alive in 2015 let alone looking for how to bundle another man. It is only the living that can dream of doing that.

Sincere 9gerian:
The bigger the challenge and work to be done, the bigger the resources. So no excuses for a state govt that failed woefully in 8 years. If Jakande could start it in the 80s, then Tinubu has no excuses

ba7man: Stop repeating this your lie or else you'll have to show us the design and site work done back in 1983 to butress your lie.

Tadon200:
Are you mentally unstable or what?

ba7man: Stop repeating this your lie or else you'll have to show us the design and site work done back in 1983 to butress your lie.

Sincere 9gerian: The Lagos metro rail line was designed by the Jakande government to facilitate transportation within Lagos and surroundings but was terminated when Buhari military regime took over in December, I983.

Buhari, while speaking in Lagos on Wednesday at the presentation of his party manifesto, said when he got into power, the relatively stable economy, which was handed over to the government of Alhaji Shehu Shagari, had been badly plundered and corruption was rife in every sector. He added that the rail line project was meant to cost N100m, which was a large sum of money then, and the Federal Government was asked to guarantee the loan meant for the project

https://www.nairaland.com/640867/why-cancelled-lagos-metroline-project-buhari

Sincere 9gerian: Jakande, who made the disclosure at his Ilupeju residence in Lagos while speaking with newsmen as part of activities marking his 80th birthday, said it was Shagari, whom he described as a good friend, that ordered the Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN) not to release N70 million mobilisation fund for the metro line project. According to him, "President Shagari was angry for two reasons. First, I did not congratulate him on his re-election in 1983. Second, he stopped the fund because I was not his party member"

Explaining how Shagari and Buhari worked against the metro-rail project, Jakande said there was delay after the N700 million metro-line project was awarded to a French firm with the arrangement to first pay N70 million and pay the rest in the space of two years.

He said the delay compelled him to ask "my commissioner for works to investigate why the N70 million mobilisation fund was not released. The commissioner investigated and discovered that it was President who asked the Central Bank of Nigeria not to release the money.

"I was told President Shagari was angry because I did not congratulate him after his controversial election and because I won election on the platform of an opposition party

http://allafrica.com/stories/200907230352.html?maneref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Fm%3Fq%3DLagos%2BMetro%2Bline%2BJakande&mstac=0

Obiagelli:
Is gej riding in any of those couches? Can you place your family in the economy couches? Have you been on any of those rat and cockroach couches oozing with smell of urine. Is this what is obtainable in places like south Africa that we compare our gdp with every day ? Why is your president giving us Bangladesh type development.

Sincere 9gerian:
Excuses, excuses, excuses! When it comes to your masters, you have away of giving reasons they couldn't achieve anything concrete.

So if Tinubu lacked resources to work, does GEJ have access to limitless resources?

Obiagelli:
are you trying to compare resources of a state government to the federal government?

Sincere 9gerian:
The bigger the challenge and work to be done, the bigger the resources. So no excuses for a state govt that failed woefully in 8 years. If Jakande could start it in the 80s, then Tinubu has no excuses

Sincere 9gerian:
What I dont do on NL is tell lies. Jakande started the process of building a Lagos metro rail line.

In the report below, Buhari was explaining why he stopped the project. The project was conceptualised and designed by Jakande but the process had to be "terminated" by Buhari. So do you terminate what has not started?

In the report below, Jakande personally explained what happened. Note that contract for the project was already awarded. However, release of funds was frustrated by Shagari for political reasons.


The project would have been completed in 2 years going by what Jakande said here.

Ayekotoo:
maybe we should abandon this thread- topic and turn it to Jonathan vs Tinubu as governors of their respective states within one year.

Obiagelli:
was the railway functioning under buhari? Yes
Were the couches amongst the best in the world then? Yes
Were railway workers the pride of the nation then?
Yes.
Did the elites and middle class use the rail then? Yes

You post reeks of ignorance as usual.

atlwireles:

Successful narrow gauge railway

The heavy duty 3 ft 6 in (1,067 mm) narrow gauge railways in Australia (e.g. Queensland), South Africa and New Zealand show that if the track is built to a heavy-duty standard, performance almost as good as a standard gauge line is possible. 200-car trains operate on the Sishen-Saldanha railway in South Africa, and high-speed tilt-trains in Queensland (see below). Another example of a heavy-duty narrow gauge line is EFVM in Brazil. 1,000 mm (3 ft 3 3⁄8 in) gauge, it has over-100-pound rail (100 lb/yd or 49.6 kg/m) and a loading gauge almost as large as US non-excess-height lines. It sees multiple 4,000 hp (3,000 kW) locomotives and 200+ car trains. In South Africa and New Zealand, the loading gauge is similar to the restricted British loading gauge, and in New Zealand some British Rail Mark 2 carriages have been rebuilt with new bogies for use by Tranz Scenic (Wellington-Palmerston North service), Tranz Metro (Wellington-Masterton service) and Veolia (Auckland suburban services).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narrow_gauge_railway

SeaGold:

This woman, are you allergic to progress?

Rome was not built in a day. You don't expect Jonathan to perform voodoo wonder on 35 years of destruction caused by our former inept leaders.

Ayekotoo:
how come your PDP led government in Akwa Ibom can't start one after 14 years rule with the largest budget in Nigeria par little population? according to you

Sincere 9gerian:
They are ignoramuses. Pls dont give up in trying to educate them.

ba7man: Jakande had plans to initiate a metro line in Lagos.

The questions i have no answers to are;

(1) Was it supposed to be elevated since Lagos was far less populated back then. Its being elevated will certainly mark up the project cost substantially.

(2) Was it supposed to follow the current route on plan? Or was is intended to be on a lesser scale.

(3) I'm sure building demolitions, re-settlement and compensations of displaced people were not part of the initial plan so that makes it far harder to execute.

(4) Also, was Jakande's plan supposed to include 10 lane express roads? I doubt that.

Then, we should stop celebrating the half baked Railway System. If G.E.J sees how you guys praise him for those trains Hussein Bolt can outrun at their full speed, he might start believing in his own hype and stop the Railway upgrade as it is.

Sincere 9gerian:
Nobody is "celebrating" anything. We'r just acknowledging what has been done. The railway sector has been moved several steps FORWARD under this govt. Fact!

The narrow guage has been fixed and currently moves millions of passengers and tons of goods annually. Fact!

If the narrow had not been fixed, those millions of people and goods would have had to be moved by road. Fact!

Some of the people may have been killed or maimed in road accidents (see the Reuters report). Fact!

Yes, there are complaints poor services and nobody is happy about that. It is the responsibility of those in charge to fix it and they'r trying to do that (it was even stated in that Vanguard report).

On the issue of Lagos metro rail line, for a project that has been on the drawing board since 1983 and which would you have been completed in 1986 if not for the military coup, what Tinubu ought to have done in 1999 was to dust up the design, make necessary adjustments and commence work. This should not take a focused govt more than 2 years to achieve. But Tinubu ruled for 8 years with nothing on ground to show.

Obiagelli: This project has been defeated over and over again, only a vision less leader would embark on such. Over 18 billion of wasting away. Recent article in the dailies have proven some of us right. Fantastic for moving cargo, No No for passengers. I fear same fate awaits the phcn.

Ayekotoo:
how come your PDP led government in Akwa Ibom can't start one after 14 years rule with the largest budget in Nigeria par little population? according to you