rudedough:

Before you quote someone, try to follow the trend of the discussion. Don't just jump on a post and make conclusions.

The 1st person i quoted stated that Stella Oduah must publish a copy of her MBA certificate. And i said, that is impossible.

The NASS can ask Stella Oduah to provide her MBA certificate for their private view, they probably should have a copy already. But Stella Oduah is under no legal obligation to publish a copy of her MBA certificate for public view, neither does the NASS has the right to publish a copy of her MBA certificate without her consent.

That will be a breach of her civil right. We don't have to debate back and forth on this issue, just grab your phone and call your uncle, relation or friend who is a legal practitioner to confirm.

ISpiksDaTroof: Yikes, News Flash: I was called to the bar more than 28yrs ago!

I do not care for you previous arguments prior to what I responded to...and now the present one. Everything you wrote is total bunkum! Rubbish! Trash! Garbage!!!

Reread what I wrote and stop sounding ignorant.

Call to which bar? Mama Chidinma catfish pepersoup & bar or Bar beach?

My friend go and sit down.

django1:

In essence you're saying the Nigerian people have no right to know of they've been conned or not. Nice.

It doesn't really matter though because the president will never fire her even if she was found guilty of perjury.

rudedough:

Call to which bar? Mama Chidinma catfish pepersoup & bar or Bar beach?

My friend go and sit down.

rudedough:

In essence, the Nigerian people will be informed in a statement issued by the NASS after their investigation that the Minister has been found guilty of forgery or whatever.

The copy of her MBA certificate will not be made public. It is her credential, her personal data, It is not for public view.

ISpiksDaTroof: What's the gibberish you just dumped up there?

Dude shut up!! You are Agbameta's colleague in the vulcanizing business. Even a baby law student will know that it is an infringement of one's civil right to make public an employee / appointee personal data without his/her consent.

Now go back to where you are coming from. Mama Chinemerem is "Calling you back to the bar". Mad man.

rudedough:

Dude shut up!! You are Agbameta's colleague in the vulcanizing business. Even a baby law student will know that it is an infringement of one's civil right to make public an employee / appointee personal data without his/her consent.

Now go back to where you are coming from. Mama Chinemerem is "Calling you back to the bar". Mad man.

ISpiksDaTroof: I'm sorry, but you're clearly an uneducated oaf pretending to be more knowledgeable than you are.

Let me ask you a quick question: Your country passed it's own version of the FOI Act, right? So, if a person filed a request to see what documentation she presented before being made Minister she'll tell them not to release her docs because it's her personal property.

I don't know how much theyre paying you to come make a fooool of urself on here, but I bet when ur handlers see how poorly you've been managing their propaganda business you're getting fired.

ISpiksDaTroof: lmaooo dude pls shut it while we still think of you as just a mere dunce or probably a drunk. U keep going on and people will start to think of u as an im*becile.

You've got not an iota of idea what the hell you're yapping about. Infringement of rights indeed. Lmao smh


P.S: I notice u criminally evaded my question of her presented documentation being requested under the FOI Act.

Is this the kind of charge and bail lawyers they produce in Nigeria Universities?

rudedough:

I am neither APC nor PDP. I do not engage in tribal bigotry too.

Can you proof that i have any political affiliation on NL?
Can you proof that i am of an ethnic group too? I guess not.

@the bolded - You said "FILED A REQUEST" --- Doesn't that sound like a request for consent to you? Did the LASG not decline the request of the FOI recently?

The FOI bill does not include personal data. You cannot write to Fashola and ask him to give you the statement of his bank account. That is an infringement of his civil right.

Sir, you are not a lawyer, you have no knowledge of the law. I am not a legal practitioner either but i know my legal rights.

ba7man: Your Enugu Airport is crap.......Same with MMIA.

Just a visit to Oliver Thambo Airport will make you realize those Airports you're so proud of are Bus Stations with planes parked behind them.

rudedough:

Is this the kind of charge and bail lawyers they produce in Nigeria Universities?

rudedough:

I am neither APC nor PDP. I do not engage in tribal bigotry too.

Can you [b]proof that i have any political affiliation on NL?
Can you proof that i am of an ethnic group too? I guess not.

@the bolded - You said "FILED A REQUEST" --- Doesn't that sound like a request for consent to you? Did the LASG not decline the request of the FOI recently?

The FOI bill does not include personal data. You cannot write to Fashola and ask him to give you the statement of his bank account. That is an infringement of his civil right.

Sir, you are not a lawyer, you have no knowledge of the law. I am not a legal practitioner either but i know my legal rights.[/b]

ba7man: You might have just exposed the person that edited Stella Oduah's School's name out of her Wikipedea page.

That guy might probably be on her Pay-roll.

Freewilly:

See mumu to the highest order, I thought he was going to compare Enugu airport with the one in his home town of Ibadan and not some Airport in South Africa.

ISpiksDaTroof: I will engage your idiocy only because it is below freezing and there's no work for me till Monday. I will answer your questions below to the best of my ability.

1. Youre definitely a PDP member. Not just that, ur also a paid goon sent here to spread rumors and propaganda. Your soul has been paid for already in Naira, Kobo and probably cassava bread.

2. Yes you are a bigot. A dirty stinking one too.

3. What the hell is "A request for consent"? Go find out what your Freedom of information Act is all about and stop talking about subjects which you know nothing about. Any documents she's ever provided to the Govt can be requested, the worst that can happen is that certain portions could be redacted in the interest of i.e National Security.


4. I cannot request info about Fashola in his "private" capacity, but I request same when it pertains to his dealings in his "official capacity as a Govt agent".


5.Go to sleep, ure wasting my time. Arguing with you is like me arguing with a surgeon on the procedures of liposuction; I'll sound like an idi*ot, won't I? Exactly!


Quit it and stop sounding like an id*iot.

I ask NLers, Is this the kind of charge and bail lawyers they produce in Nigeria Universities?

FreeGlobe:
crap or not, atleast now the airport is international which yorubas politicians refused to grant it in ages.

reporter?:


Stop disgracing yourself. Enough of trying to justify criminality. And try to understand the difference between "proof and prove."

rudedough:

The cursing and name calling was totally unnecessary. As an acclaimed lawyer, i hope you know that i can sue your a$$ right now for defamation of character.

At the highlighted, is Stella Oduah's MBA certificate public property?

I ask NLers, Is this the kind of charge and bail lawyers they produce in Nigeria Universities?

rudedough:

The cursing and name calling was totally unnecessary. As an acclaimed lawyer, i hope you know that i can sue your a$$ right now for defamation of character.

At the highlighted, is Stella Oduah's MBA certificate public property?

I ask NLers, Is this the kind of charge and bail lawyers they produce in Nigeria Universities?

ISpiksDaTroof: Name calling?! So what do you refer to your lame attempts at insults: Terms of endearments?! I see you're still too dense in the head to realize what I meant with the "Electric Chair" reference. Youre definitely mentally special. This is my last interaction with you on this subject. I refuse to continue rumbling with a wild boar in slimy mud. You win.


P.S: lmao @ suing for defamation of character. You need to stop drinking so early in the day. And try to step out of your hamlet once in a while.

***I couldn't help but notice your pic on ur profile page. Lmaooo no wonder you feel "cool" enough to talk confidently on Subjects that cost others time, money,and effort to gain knowledge on. Smh

agbameta:


It is of course. Did she not use it to secure a public position funded by the taxpayers? Omo, abeg go rest somewhere, this online caretaker job den give you Is well above your pay grade and intellectual capacity.

Is Stella Oduah's MBA certificate public property?

@bolded How many local govt workers, police officer, customs, immigration, civil servants have you seen their certificates published? They are all public officers and are funded by tax payers money.

Should i continue debating with you? I guess not. Like i said, your vulcanizing colleague agbameta is here to discuss my blackberry. Little mind discuss little things. I'm glad you liked my profile photo.

lacidi: The problem I have with NL is that there are a lot of people here who want to claim to know more than they do. I will not say there are too many kids here, but a lot of NL members seem to act mostly on impulse and sentiments, rather than facts.

Firstly, the MBA certificate of Ms. Oduah was NOT the basis for her appointment as a Minister. We need to establish what the minimum requirements are for being a minister. Just like the position of the President, the minimum requirement is an O ‘level certificate or its equivalent.

This leaves us with the issue of what crime, if any, was committed. I am not privy to the form of documents presented to the National Assembly and hence I cannot say whether they were submitted under oath. If they were, then she will be guilty of perjury, if not, then she is not guilty of a criminal offence but will lose the moral right to remain in government. Note that I said 'moral right' not 'legal right'. The morality of her actions does not however mean that her employer (the presidency) is bound to remove her. This is because morals do not determine legal decisions (remember Clinton and Lewinsky?). So if the president feels that he cannot work with someone of such weak morals, then he should go ahead and remove her, but he also has to balance the opportunity cost of losing whatever positives she brings to the aviation ministry.

On the issue of releasing her MBA for public viewing, the FOI does not apply to private documents. Ms. Odua's MBA certificate is not a public document. It is not the basis for her appointment. She therefore cannot be forced to release the document if she does not wish to.

NB: All the above is based on the assumption that she actually lied about her MBA. I am not stating this as a given, I am only working on that assumption.

lacidi: The problem I have with NL is that there are a lot of people here who want to claim to know more than they do. I will not say there are too many kids here, but a lot of NL members seem to act mostly on impulse and sentiments, rather than facts.

Firstly, the MBA certificate of Ms. Oduah was NOT the basis for her appointment as a Minister. We need to establish what the minimum requirements are for being a minister. Just like the position of the President, the minimum requirement is an O ‘level certificate or its equivalent.

This leaves us with the issue of what crime, if any, was committed. I am not privy to the form of documents presented to the National Assembly and hence I cannot say whether they were submitted under oath. If they were, then she will be guilty of perjury, if not, then she is not guilty of a criminal offence but will lose the moral right to remain in government. Note that I said 'moral right' not 'legal right'. The morality of her actions does not however mean that her employer (the presidency) is bound to remove her. This is because morals do not determine legal decisions (remember Clinton and Lewinsky?). So if the president feels that he cannot work with someone of such weak morals, then he should go ahead and remove her, but he also has to balance the opportunity cost of losing whatever positives she brings to the aviation ministry.

On the issue of releasing her MBA for public viewing, the FOI does not apply to private documents. Ms. Odua's MBA certificate is not a public document. It is not the basis for her appointment. She therefore cannot be forced to release the document if she does not wish to.

NB: All the above is based on the assumption that she actually lied about her MBA. I am not stating this as a given, I am only working on that assumption.

lacidi: The problem I have with NL is that there are a lot of people here who want to claim to know more than they do. I will not say there are too many kids here, but a lot of NL members seem to act mostly on impulse and sentiments, rather than facts.

Firstly, the MBA certificate of Ms. Oduah was NOT the basis for her appointment as a Minister. We need to establish what the minimum requirements are for being a minister. Just like the position of the President, the minimum requirement is an O ‘level certificate or its equivalent.

This leaves us with the issue of what crime, if any, was committed. I am not privy to the form of documents presented to the National Assembly and hence I cannot say whether they were submitted under oath. If they were, then she will be guilty of perjury, if not, then she is not guilty of a criminal offence but will lose the moral right to remain in government. Note that I said 'moral right' not 'legal right'. The morality of her actions does not however mean that her employer (the presidency) is bound to remove her. This is because morals do not determine legal decisions (remember Clinton and Lewinsky?). So if the president feels that he cannot work with someone of such weak morals, then he should go ahead and remove her, but he also has to balance the opportunity cost of losing whatever positives she brings to the aviation ministry.

On the issue of releasing her MBA for public viewing, the FOI does not apply to private documents. Ms. Odua's MBA certificate is not a public document. It is not the basis for her appointment. She therefore cannot be forced to release the document if she does not wish to.

NB: All the above is based on the assumption that she actually lied about her MBA. I am not stating this as a given, I am only working on that assumption.

lacidi: The problem I have with NL is that there are a lot of people here who want to claim to know more than they do. I will not say there are too many kids here, but a lot of NL members seem to act mostly on impulse and sentiments, rather than facts.

Firstly, the MBA certificate of Ms. Oduah was NOT the basis for her appointment as a Minister. We need to establish what the minimum requirements are for being a minister. Just like the position of the President, the minimum requirement is an O ‘level certificate or its equivalent.

This leaves us with the issue of what crime, if any, was committed. I am not privy to the form of documents presented to the National Assembly and hence I cannot say whether they were submitted under oath. If they were, then she will be guilty of perjury, if not, then she is not guilty of a criminal offence but will lose the moral right to remain in government. Note that I said 'moral right' not 'legal right'. The morality of her actions does not however mean that her employer (the presidency) is bound to remove her. This is because morals do not determine legal decisions (remember Clinton and Lewinsky?). So if the president feels that he cannot work with someone of such weak morals, then he should go ahead and remove her, but he also has to balance the opportunity cost of losing whatever positives she brings to the aviation ministry.

On the issue of releasing her MBA for public viewing, the FOI does not apply to private documents. Ms. Odua's MBA certificate is not a public document. It is not the basis for her appointment. She therefore cannot be forced to release the document if she does not wish to.

NB: All the above is based on the assumption that she actually lied about her MBA. I am not stating this as a given, I am only working on that assumption.

lacidi: The problem I have with NL is that there are a lot of people here who want to claim to know more than they do. I will not say there are too many kids here, but a lot of NL members seem to act mostly on impulse and sentiments, rather than facts.

Firstly, the MBA certificate of Ms. Oduah was NOT the basis for her appointment as a Minister. We need to establish what the minimum requirements are for being a minister. Just like the position of the President, the minimum requirement is an O ‘level certificate or its equivalent.

This leaves us with the issue of what crime, if any, was committed. I am not privy to the form of documents presented to the National Assembly and hence I cannot say whether they were submitted under oath. If they were, then she will be guilty of perjury, if not, then she is not guilty of a criminal offence but will lose the moral right to remain in government. Note that I said 'moral right' not 'legal right'. The morality of her actions does not however mean that her employer (the presidency) is bound to remove her. This is because morals do not determine legal decisions (remember Clinton and Lewinsky?). So if the president feels that he cannot work with someone of such weak morals, then he should go ahead and remove her, but he also has to balance the opportunity cost of losing whatever positives she brings to the aviation ministry.

On the issue of releasing her MBA for public viewing, the FOI does not apply to private documents. Ms. Odua's MBA certificate is not a public document. It is not the basis for her appointment. She therefore cannot be forced to release the document if she does not wish to.

NB: All the above is based on the assumption that she actually lied about her MBA. I am not stating this as a given, I am only working on that assumption.

ISpiksDaTroof: lmaooo dude pls shut it while we still think of you as just a mere dunce or probably a drunk. U keep going on and people will start to think of u as an im*becile.

You've got not an iota of idea what the hell you're yapping about. Infringement of rights indeed. Lmao smh


P.S: I notice u criminally evaded my question of her presented documentation being requested under the FOI Act.