ikechiozo:

Is that your most challenging Case? Grow up!!

bimbor:

Thank you my brother. Please also remind him that all those other fields can be conveniently carried out by a doctor. A doctor will successfully carry out the job of a radiographer, A doctor will successfully analyse patients samples which is what Lab Scientists do.....A doctor will nurse his patient even in the absence of a nurse.....so what I'm saying in a nutshell is that a doctor can be independent of all these low-lifes calling themselves JOHESU. We are only trying to put food on their table by giving them all these jobs. So why on earth are they trying to compare their unthinking selfs with Medical Doctors. That MBBS Certificate is a double certificate that was not so easily earned. It took us not less than 7 YEARS to earn that certificate with hard labour and serious jarking sometimes keeping series of sleepless nights. The JAMB is sold without compulsion for anybody to study any programme, why didn't these inferior jerks fill medicine when they bought their forms if they really so admire doctors?

They are all subordinates who are there to answer to doctors. How can a subordinate suddenly want to rise above his boss. This is inconceivable! This nonsense does not happen in developed countries. Wherever you go a medical doctor is the head of the health team. The salary of a doctor should in no way be close to that of these health Artisans .

The government had better get her thinking caps on and restore sanity back to the health system to avoid total paralysis of the system.

Check out the JOHESU publication again, you will see the public display of their illiteracy and ignorance. Glorified technicians!

Inkredible: My dear, a consultant nurse will do wonders o. He! I know wat m saying bro. Forget this Doctors public status. Nurses nowadays r fire. Been privileged to witness wia a student nurse defended a medical student who made a point but couldn't explain it during a ward round. Come see the Chief fuming and bastardizing the med students for not been able to answer his questions while a "common nurse" is doing so. I don witness dis things up to 8 times. On one occasion, the Chief had to tell the nurses not to go on rounds with em. Of course its not possible, the student nurse had to keep shut to questions. My guy, those nurses are fire.

bumfem:
This is kind of mind set I hate reading on this forum. Physicians cannot impose their guide line of ascendancy on other health profession. Be reminded that these other professionals have their postgraduate colleges that determine standard for appointment of consultant. If the govt is fine with their standard by way of approval and recognition, what is the concern of physicians on this. They are consultant in their own field and not in medicine.

It is therefore wicked and insulting for NMA to embark on strike bc of this.

s!s! afrika:
many not some. For u to graduate as a pharmacist, u must have d passion for it. U would never graduate if ur wishing to be sumtin else while in pharm schl. Nobody calls me doctor without getting some education, I'm a pharmacist and a proud one at dat. Never and will evr wish to be a med doc. And d general idea dat second class brain go into those allied med is so amusing. I rejected an admission into UI medicine wen I was in ss2.. Cum down ur high horse.

pfijacobs: Nobody likes to be trampled upon. So I dnt blame johesu. Make ur demands and don't counter anova person's own I'm not on anybody's side tho. I just feel I shud say dis...heck I even have an exam now sef....LONG LIVE. JOHESU!!! LONG LIVE NMA!!!! More patients, more money, more peace and prosperity... #united nigeria...

johnugwu:



All you have just written is incoherent. You stated that you are a surgeon, but you didn't write like one. I'm a chartered accountant and so not interested in all this your ego massage. Please write well next time and ensure your diction flows properly because you are not just addressing Nigerians but also the world.

vicenzo:

You represent everything wrong with JOHESU. You are too emotional and greedy and lazy. You are not a medic,but you want to see yourself as an equal to medics and be treated as a medic, you want to reap where you didn't sow.


Don't you know that all fingers can never be equal? You were too impatient to wait and gain admission into an MBBS programme, you rushed into physiotherapy and now you wonder why you are not being treated like a medic.


Your case is like that of a councillor wondering why he is not treated like a Governor, why he isn't addressed as 'his excellency', why the Governor should look down on him. He and the Governor should be equal and addressed as 'his excellency' he reasoned,after all they were both democratically elected by the people,and passed through the same stress of campaigning and election.


He conveniently forgot the fact that he had the choice of picking a form for the post of the Governor, he knew the roles and powers a Governor wields over a councillor, but he still chose to be a Councillor anyway, hoping to be a Councillor,and still somehow get to be treated as the Governor. And when this doesn't happen he gets emotional, paints the Governor as a dictator who looks down on him, who doesn't want his progress.

Acidosis:

You are an illiterate.

A University Bursar/Accountant, Reigistrar and Librarian all belong to NASU.
They are bosses in their fields already..

Lol, like an average "literate" Nigerian who thinks NASU is all about gate keepers, carpenters etc

texazzpete:

I was with you until you said the bolded above. 'more patients, more money'? Dude WTF?! I know y'all gotta eat, but praying for more patients is just plain wrong.

vinnyvinny: What input would a consultant lab scientist or consultant physiotherapist or nurse give in the care of a patient that is currently lacking. I would also like to be educated on the requirements to become any of the above.

Uncle odi:

I thought that scientists are those that invent new things. And they are mostly seen touring the moon and back. So I prefer the word Lab Technologist bcus their work is technical and there hasn't been any record of new inventions by the so called lab scientists.

Abinitio in the days of hypocrates and the ancient medical practitioners, they did everything themselves without the alied health workers. But as medicine evolved, there was a proverbial "let's make man in our own image and likeness" so some group of people were called together and were thought how to collect samples and run some basic investigations/lab tests. They were called Lab Technicians.
Since then till date, the work has not changed! The only thing that changed was the quest to be equated as Doctors hence the speedy upgrade from technical health schools to a University. This doesn't make u scientists. Remember, all u study in school in 5years, the doctor did that in 1year. The 3rd MB Class and there is nothing u know the doctor don't know more. Can the mother ever be addressed as the head of the family in the Bible? The answer is no! No matter how foolish the man is, he is programmed to be the head and the wife the helper. So the wife can help the husband become better and not to over throw him. Period.

Sentiments apart, u can't suffer so much to be a doctor right from JAMB days and expect to be rubbished latter by mediocres.

s!s! afrika:
u are soundiing hurt and pained. Take a chill pill. Laffing hard. And pls, go and operate a CT, MRI or even Xray. Make d films also. U can do d work of a radiographer shey? Even as house officers, nurses teach u how to set IV lines cos u blockheads arre too dumb to knw how to in ur entire 6yrs. Na me send u repeat? Spending 7 years aint mafault, u chose d route nd u must bear d brunt. And pls, go to d pharmacy and compound d extemporaneous preps. U can do a pharmacist work now? Empty tank

s!s! afrika:
if u know ur worth, d cry for relevance won't be an option. Insecurity is ur driving force and dat we all understand. Keep up with d bitterness, emptiness, threat, fear and d likes and see how fAr u go with it. Narcissist Odi.

phantomm: this issues discussed here are way to deep for you.you are better of not having an opinion. we are striking today so that people like you won't get treated by a consultant nurse tomorrow, because let's face it, going by post above you wouldn't be able to tell a consultant cleaner from a consultant gynaecologist.

texazzpete:

I was with you until you said the bolded above. 'more patients, more money'? Dude WTF?! I know y'all gotta eat, but praying for more patients is just plain wrong.

phantomm: I know of west African college of nurses ( cracks me up everytime...lol ) can you please list the others?

Drphemmy4u: My nephew was once on admission.I took a slide(blood film for malaria parasite) to the lab,then I asked when I shld return for the result,the man said it has to be put in a drier,that I should return the next day (it was during the call hours around 10pm).I told him I am a Doctor and I did microbiology in my 400level in medical school that all he wanted was sleep during his call duty.A slide only needed to be air dried for God's sake.how long does it take a film of blood to dry up Now,it would have taken 12hours to have a laboratory result to consolidate a diagnosis of malaria.he later brought the test result d same night(guess he must have been saying that nonsense to the novice)Now they formed an association to tackle Doctors?I think they need to be told again and again what their duties are and they should stop the comparisons with Doctors.

humnsikan:

If the pathologists and radiologist are that all-rounded, they should obtain the samples and analyse same, strictly adhering to standard procedures, and I bet they'd start crying. Look here, we the masses have tolerated these doctors enough.

I still do not understand where Nigerian doctors got this mentality from. They are totally not in tune with international best practices in healthcare. They are yet to see that healthcare delivery is a team work and the patient the focus of the team, hence, their constant resistance to the progress of members of the team, which is to the detriment of the patient.

Let me ask you: can you mention just one treatment or preventive procedure in the hospital that does not utilize a product of a pharmacueutical company before, during or after such procedure? Who the hell are you to say that the role of experts in such products, i.e, pharmacists, is unimportant, when you and I know that everything in the hospital, at the end of the day, boils down to drips, disinfectants, medications, etc? Why do you say that nurses are not an integral part of the healthcare delivery and that their role is equally unimportant? I feel the doctors are afraid that with recent developments in the healthcare sector, which they have, till now, been running as their personal property, some of their fraudulent activities would not easily be covered up. So pls, next time, think with your cerebral cortex and not limbic system (At least I know some elementary medical terminologies, Lol).

heykims: Enough of all these rantings, JOHESU if u re so sure of ursef nd d relevance of ur discipline, advocate for d privatization of the entire health sector.
Let everything be privatized nd everybody in d health sector knows where he/she belongs..

heykims: Enough of all these rantings, JOHESU if u re so sure of ursef nd d relevance of ur discipline, advocate for d privatization of the entire health sector.
Let everything be privatized nd everybody in d health sector knows where he/she belongs..

wallex1983: Hmmmm,

Still waiting for when NASU and other admin staff of Nigerian universities will come up to say they want to start becoming Professors so that they can become VC and DVC. Surely if Johesu scales through, NASU will follow suite.

Gobe go come start Part 2

s!s! afrika:
if we can diffrentiate a consultant pediatrician from a consultant pathologist why won't we be able to do same for a driver and nurse, d job description is clear. Ur arguments are embarrassing, coming from an illogical 'doctor'. Quit feeling threatened and face ur personal development. Stop killing our patients with ur fractional baked knowledge. D real doctors are out there minding there businesses, ur throwing tantrums online. Quite shameful.

s!s! afrika:
u are this ignorant yet u keep crying nay! And u see, its laughable right? Hw else can u be malicious? Google is ur frend. No one ever said u would be a consultant without going through the necessary college. This people are so impossible and nechanical and we trust ourlives with them? God have mercy. Certified killers.

oluks05:


My guy u have said it all.