5minsmadness:
Wait, what? This your analogy makes no sense. Why didnt they just say people came out of the water or a great beast birthed them? Why the mud and the breathing of life?






So I clicked your link and looked through some but not all of the topics at random as there were too many. Earth, mud, land, rock, they all point to the same thing. Can't you see the similarity? Why didn't someone make man from water? Or air? There is a similarity in the creation story concerning man, (not the gods) no matter how bizzaire other parts of the story gets. Unless you deliberately don't want to see it.



And what do you know is "The Great Leprechaun?" If such a thing existed wouldn't it have beenemtioned in man's history? Can't you see such examples are given by atheist bodies to ridicule the idea of a supernatural being solely and so shouldn't be taken seriously?







And then what? You'll come on your knees to worship him if he does that? I doubt it. You'll probably go on about how its a hoax and how the Americans have devised a means to brainwash the masses. Besides God tried numerous times in the past to communicate directly with man, man simply goes 'wow' and then forgets after some time.

All religion, although diverse, have a common similarity. There is a God. That God may have demigods under him or send out emmissaires or have a Son but it still remains that there is a God. The last major spiritual upheaval is God sending his Son to die so that you can inherit eternal life in heaven. You don't need to do anything extra special like the Jews or Buddhists or Pagans. No need for any special atonement. Just believe in the salvation of God's son and be saved. So simple. Yet so difficult to follow for so many. Personally I think God has tried and if He has decided to leave us to rot in our ways I won't blame Him one bit. The bible actually warns that days like these will come when there will be a loss of faith on earth and people will be full of themselves, beat their chests and say 'there is no god.' and that the faithful should beware of those days.


I don't intend to preach or convert you to the Christian faith. I think most atheists on this forum are not angry at God per se, how can they be angry at someone they don't believe even exists . I think they are angry at the behaviour of Christians they have come across at one point or the other in their lives, or because they prayed for something and didn't get it. Is that disappointment really enough to risk your soul for?

In your search for truth through science, remember to keep an eye out for things that science cannot explain. Try not to build on science so much as it tends to shift like the wind with new evidence. Be mad at Christians and pentecostal zealots with their fire and brimstone judgmental, holier-than-thou attitude but give God himself a chance by keeping your mind open to possibilities.

Utter rubbish..the most ridiculous part is that it's all so long

Can't believe an educated man thinks the creator is one to open Facebook accounts to chat
In essence you have restricted the creator to an organic being
well that's what Christians are made to believe but it's getting too annoying, that some humans are still this foolish

A Christian would not seek reason, logic and knowledge but sink down anything he hears in church
Pathetic slowpokes

cococandy: Yes I'm honest with my self.
I believe in God. I'm christain because I was born one and I like Jesus' teachings.
But I don't honestly believe that all others are condemned to hell because they are not christains.
I don't know what to make of that. But I try to understand other people's religions too whenever I come across them.

And how do u feel about your ancestral spiritual philosophies?
Btw what ethnic group do u belong?

kayustones: It is because of God's mercy that you atheists are still alive.
Even if you say that there is no God at least the occurrence of supernatural things like charm and sorts should give you an inkling that there is a realm beyond what you see. It won't be wise to ignore or deny a fact simply because you can't explain it.
Don't wait till science and other things you put your trust on fail you before you humble yourself and confess openly that there is a God

what has charms and supernatural things got to do with jehovah

qstar:

Personally, i do not have any problem(s) with any god or gods. If i meet any god/gods after death, a conversation as this will ensue:

God(s): Boy, you're welcome.

Me: Ah! Ose jare!

God(s): You forgot to acknowledge us/me when alive.

Me: O my bad. Which of the Gods are you? So much noise i couldn't decipher the truth from the lie. So, i decided not to fall for any, in order not to be deceived.

God(s): Hahaha. I am/we are the force behind the universe. Actually, I/we permitted those noises. We/I don't interfere with the workings of the institution I/we set.

Me: Ok, so which side will i go to now? so many hells. Over 4000hells.

God(s): Oboy, go rest/sleep, abi you no dey tire?

Me:

Toks2008: All these cock and bull bruhaha.

I have read about many so called athiests,99% of them acknowledge God exstence at the moment of their death so save urselves all these rhetorics.

If you doubt me, please google the phrase Athiests who changed their beliefs before they died nd u wl b srprsed to find many who made the most noise about the non existence of God.

Most if not all of you claimn to b athiest will likely change your beliefs too.

There is a consiousness of God in everyone put in us by GOd himself. You cant fight it.

And what God is this? Jehovah or Zeus

I'm igbo

I don't know what to feel about them because I wasn't raised with them. At best we were taught that it is voodoo or devil worship doing all those rituals and sacrifices. So growing up I felt horrified seeing people practice such.

Now that I'm older and wiser,I'm feel indifferent about them.
No loyalties and no disdain.

macof:

And how do u feel about your ancestral spiritual philosophies?
Btw what ethnic group do u belong?

Dead thread.
So has this thread achieved it's aim?

Dapo777: Dead thread.
So has this thread achieved it's aim?

I have no idea.
You should ask the OP.

To an extent yes it has.
If you want to add anything else,you're free.

Dapo777: Dead thread.
So has this thread achieved it's aim?

Apatheist:
I have no idea.
You should ask the OP.

The Op is bossy and dogmatic. I had no idea, wouldn't have involved myself.

I'm certainly not.
I'm just doing my very best not get drawn into anything argumentative on this thread as it is purely a-listen-and-learn kind of thread.

Sorry if I come across as such.

qstar:

The Op is bossy and dogmatic. I had no idea, wouldn't have involved myself.

cococandy: I'm certainly not.
I'm just doing my very best not get drawn into anything argumentative on this thread as it is purely a-listen-and-learn kind of thread.

I've heard you. Sorry too.

cococandy: I'm igbo

I don't know what to feel about them because I wasn't raised with them. At best we were taught that it is voodoo or devil worship doing all those rituals and sacrifices. So growing up I felt horrified seeing people practice such.

Now that I'm older and wiser,I'm feel indifferent about them.
No loyalties and no disdain.

Ok, I was also raised to believe they were evil until curiosity and other factors drove me to it.

Maybe,you should start your observation from your own blood...your Igbo spirituality

macof:
Ok, I was also raised to believe they were evil until curiosity and other factors drove me to it.

Maybe,you should start your observation from your own blood...your Igbo spirituality

Not much of that is practised anymore where I come from.
Infact it is a thing of pride among the populace that at least one compound has raised a roman catholic priest. So observing such might come at the price of traveling out of my comfort zone and delving into unknown areas.


@qstar. We cool

cococandy:
Not much of that is practised anymore where I come from.
Infact it is a thing of pride among the populace that at least one compound has raised a roman catholic priest. So observing such might come at the price of traveling out of my comfort zone and delving into unknown areas.


@qstar. We cool

I see, it's very sad that this happens in igboland.

a = without/no; theo = god; ism = belief. Atheism = without belief in god. The word "atheism" itself predates popular monotheism, i.e. Christianity & Islam. Why people equate atheism with denial, I dunno. We simply don't believe the sh¡t! That doesn't mean it doesn't (or they don't) exist. Is there Harry Potter? O yes, the flying wizard at Hogwarts. Is there JC? O yes, the man who walked on water in....Is there Muhammad? Yes na, no be him be Allah's messenger? Salaam.

http://rapturewatcher./2014/05/06/true-testimony-of-lucius-oge-the-rich-man-in-luke-1619-31-is-truly-in-great-torment-in-hell-i-spoke-with-him-in-hell/

....... A Scientist (Atheist) In Hell!

There was another man, a scientist and an atheist who confessed that the greatest mistake he made in life was to believe that there is no God. He explained that whenever they wanted to carry out any experiment, whenever they mention the name of God, the experiment would not be successful, but when they don’t use the name of the Lord, the experiment would be successful. That was the belief that made them make it into a law in their organization that God does not exist. That now, Jesus exists and that Satan even exists. There is heaven and hell but it is too late for him. He begged me to talk to those atheists that God do exist and when they die they are coming to hell and God is not happy about that and that God will take me to a high position and that I should use the opportunity to tell people about eternity in heaven and hell. The fire rolled him down again.
.................. Read the rest:
http://rapturewatcher./2014/05/06/true-testimony-of-lucius-oge-the-rich-man-in-luke-1619-31-is-truly-in-great-torment-in-hell-i-spoke-with-him-in-hell/

BraveGuy: http://rapturewatcher./2014/05/06/true-testimony-of-lucius-oge-the-rich-man-in-luke-1619-31-is-truly-in-great-torment-in-hell-i-spoke-with-him-in-hell/

....... A Scientist (Atheist) In Hell!

There was another man, a scientist and an atheist who confessed that the greatest mistake he made in life was to believe that there is no God. He explained that whenever they wanted to carry out any experiment, whenever they mention the name of God, the experiment would not be successful, but when they don’t use the name of the Lord, the experiment would be successful. That was the belief that made them make it into a law in their organization that God does not exist. That now, Jesus exists and that Satan even exists. There is heaven and hell but it is too late for him. He begged me to talk to those atheists that God do exist and when they die they are coming to hell and God is not happy about that and that God will take me to a high position and that I should use the opportunity to tell people about eternity in heaven and hell. The fire rolled him down again.
.................. Read the rest:
http://rapturewatcher./2014/05/06/true-testimony-of-lucius-oge-the-rich-man-in-luke-1619-31-is-truly-in-great-torment-in-hell-i-spoke-with-him-in-hell/

Take your foolish fear-mongering elsewhere.

BraveGuy:

[color=#990000]There was another man, a scientist and an atheist who confessed that the greatest mistake he made in life was to believe that there is no God. That now, Jesus exists and that Satan even exists. There is heaven and hell but it is too late for him. He begged me to talk to those atheists that God do exist and when they die they are coming to hell and God is not happy about that and that God will take me to a high position and that I should use the opportunity to tell people about eternity in heaven and hell.

What a dumb scientist. Which God is he talking about? If he's talking about Jesus, then why isn't he warning the Hindus and Muslims? Do they not outnumber atheists? Or are they in heaven with the born again Christians?

TheBigUrban2:

Take your foolish fear-mongering elsewhere.

The TRUE FOOL was the person described in the Bible some 4,000 years ago.... Psalm 14:1
"The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good."

Braveguy
This is a lame way to try convert an unbeliever

TheBigUrban2:
Take your foolish fear-mongering elsewhere.

Fear-mongering? So, what is making you afraid? If you don't believe in the afterlife, there is nothing to be afraid of them; if I were you, it won't bother me a bit.

BraveGuy:

The TRUE FOOL was the person described in the Bible some 4,000 years ago.... Psalm 14:1
"The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good."

Muslims believe in God, but they are not saved by Christ, so the bible says that they are going to hell. Who is the bigger fool? The atheist who didn't believe in any personal God and wound up in hell, or the Muslim who spent all that time and energy praying to the wrong one?

cococandy: Braveguy
This is a lame way to try convert an unbeliever

Call it what you will, what is the point of trying to convert someone who is adamant of facing the consequence of the Hell he denies - no, I am not trying to convert the hardened heart.

This is just an information to be shared, at least, we are in the information age.

Enjoy the info as you make your way to Hell. Have a nice trip, but sad trip!

Weah96:

Muslims believe in God, but they are not saved by Christ, so the bible says that they are going to hell. Who is the bigger fool? The atheist who didn't believe in any personal God and wound up in hell, or the Muslim who spent all that time and energy praying to the wrong one?

Would you be happy to share with me the best shade of black that is white?
The different shades of black will never be a white!

So what difference is there? NONE!

BraveGuy:

Call it what you will, what is the point of trying to convert someone who is adamant of facing the consequence of the Hell he denies - no, I am not trying to convert the hardened heart

What makes you think that anyone in his right mind would choose to be roasted eternally? Are atheists pyromaniacs or something? There is no evidence of a fire, or the tyrant who would imagine such a method of torture. Otherwise, I would be as submissive as an al qaeda operative undergoing a waterboarding session.

BraveGuy:

Would you be happy to share with me the best shade of black that is white?
The different shades of black will never be a white!

So what difference is there? NONE!

You said that atheists were the TRUE fools because we don't believe in your personal Gods. Muslims believe in God, so are they like 'better' fools or something? Do they get ice water after every 22 months in hell for believing in Allah?

Ok

BraveGuy:

Call it what you will, what is the point of trying to convert someone who is adamant of facing the consequence of the Hell he denies - no, I am not trying to convert the hardened heart.

This is just an information to be shared, at least, we are in the information age.

Enjoy the info as you make your way to Hell. Have a nice trip, but sad trip!

Weah96:

What a dumb scientist. Which God is he talking about? If he's talking about Jesus, then why isn't he warning the Hindus and Muslims? Do they not outnumber atheists? Or are they in heaven with the born again Christians?

You know, Weah96, when a child is being warned of the dangers of the fire he's trying his best to put his finger into, the parent would soon start looking to be wicked to that child, it may grieve the heart of a parent when he lets go so that that child can experience the PAIN of the burn he will experience, but it probably the best thing that father can also do for that child.

It is just that in this case, it is not something (or someplace) you experience and come back to tell the tale, and even some who experience it by visions or dreams are usually frowned upon.

Have you guys read the works of Dr. Anthony Flew a famous atheist?

Professor Flew, has been called ‘the world's most influential philosophical atheist’, as well as ‘one of the most renowned atheists of the 20th Century’ ..... read a little further here: http://www.bethinking.org/atheism/professor-antony-flew-reviews-the-god-delusion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNkxpTIbCIw

Another LIVING atheist scientist who changed his mind..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVmNf-KtVs0

So braveguy since you're not trying to convert any atheist to christainity,what's your mission here?

Weah96:

What makes you think that anyone in his right mind would choose to be roasted eternally? Are atheists pyromaniacs or something? There is no evidence of a fire, or the tyrant who would imagine such a method of torture. Otherwise, I would be as submissive as an al qaeda operative undergoing a waterboarding session.

Sometimes, you guys make me laugh! Seriously!

So, the God of the Bible who has warned REPEATEDLY of the consequences of your belief system is a tyrant?

You mean when a person had been warned of the consequences of a behaviour and he dares the legislator and commits the sin to damn the consequence the legislator is a tyrant?

In your community, are you trying to tell me that YOUR IGNORANCE of its law is an excuse for crime?