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Re: What Happened To The Nigerian Army . by Rexnegro(m): 6:51am On Jul 27, 2014 |
only God can turn thingz around for this country...if not our so called leaders ain't ready at all.... |
Re: What Happened To The Nigerian Army . by porka: 6:52am On Jul 27, 2014 |
What happened to you and your CIA and NSA that you can't even keep your secrets. What happened to you that a single operative in Macao can access the list of 15,000 of you and others. Everyone now knows who you all are. What happened that your 'contractor' Edward Snoden has given your secret to your 'geopolitical foe', Russia? Is it not better to seek answers to these than trying to use 'panadol' for Nigeria Army's discomfort? |
Re: What Happened To The Nigerian Army . by numericalguy(m): 6:53am On Jul 27, 2014 |
Nigerian Arny are just a bunch of useless cowards who don't see anything wrong in shooting a defenceless woman with a child on her back and killing both mother and child or shooting un-armed university undergraduates but will quickly run and hide with their tails between their useless legs at the mear mention of Boko Haram. Nigerian Army are a disgrace to Mankind. Useless cowardly beasts in uniform. Nigerian Army are a disgrace to all the other Armies arround the world. 2 Likes |
Re: What Happened To The Nigerian Army . by Sunnybobo3(m): 6:58am On Jul 27, 2014 |
ichidodo: [b] Life happened to them...The Nigerian Army of the military era was far much fiercer,brutal and decisive.Back then there was not much tribalism and so we had brilliant military chiefs David Mark,Tunde Ogbeha and the best of the best General Victor Maalu who could plan complex military offensives with sophistication and intellgience far ahead of their time,those were the heady days of our glory especially in Ecomog.I still remember with pride reading live reports on CNN about Nigerian soldiers charging down and uprooting Foday Sankoh's tough rebel group in Freetown Sierra Leone with fire support cover from the Nigerian Navy Warships far out to sea (a first ever operation of its kind in Africa never mind West Africa) Those were the days we cemented our reputation as the best military group in Africa....But corruption,tribalism and,ironically to a smaller extent, democracy has made them soft,impotent and clueless.These days the sight of military chiefs with potbellies are very common....I can't remember Abacha,Abubakar or even the laziest,Nyako sporting such.....aberrations in Nigerian Military traditions. [/b] You can't compare a war situation to an insurgency. Especially an insurgency that originally enjoyed the support of the locals and also has sympathisers among the echelon of the army itself. The Nigerian Army is still the same if not better than what it was then. |
Re: What Happened To The Nigerian Army . by ideology(m): 7:00am On Jul 27, 2014 |
Hmmm, he writes as though he knows anything about wars and soldiers |
Re: What Happened To The Nigerian Army . by Nobody: 7:05am On Jul 27, 2014 |
Your reasoning is flawed. You now comparing IMF loans with drugs sting operation My friend anybody that thinks deeply enough would realise that IMF loans is the easiest way to loot and that no looter would turn down a chance of an IMF loan. Stop listening to western sponsored propaganda against one of our greatest leaders Consider also, that at the time he turned down Western offers of IMF loans, oil was selling between $12 and $18 per barrel (today it sells for $112 per barrel) yet he still managed our resources judiciously enough to enable him to fulfil our role as regional superpower by intervening successfully in Liberia and Sierra Leone OneNaira6: 1 Like |
Re: What Happened To The Nigerian Army . by Kei144(m): 7:06am On Jul 27, 2014 |
Why is it that when a Nigerian lecturer goes to another country, s/he becomes almost the best lecturer in the system; but back here in Nigeria, our universities are in terrible shape?Why is it that Nigerian doctors working in other countries are some of the best doctors there; but here in Nigeria, our hospital system is in pitiable condition? The Nigerian nation obviously demotivates people from bringing out their best. 2 Likes |
Re: What Happened To The Nigerian Army . by Nobody: 7:09am On Jul 27, 2014 |
corrupt leaders - corruption is choking us to death Kei144: Why is it that when a Nigerian lecturer goes to another country, s/he becomes almost the best lecturer in the system; but back here in Nigeria, our universities are in terrible shape?Why is it that Nigerian doctors working in other countries are some of the best doctors there; but here in Nigeria, our hospital system is in pitiable condition? The Nigerian nation obviously demotivates people from bringing out their best. |
Re: What Happened To The Nigerian Army . by lorRhyMeZ: 7:13am On Jul 27, 2014 |
ichidodo: [b] Life happened to them...The Nigerian Army of the military era was far much fiercer,brutal and decisive.Back then there was not much tribalism and so we had brilliant military chiefs David Mark,Tunde Ogbeha and the best of the best General Victor Maalu who could plan complex military offensives with sophistication and intellgience far ahead of their time,those were the heady days of our glory especially in Ecomog.I still remember with pride reading live reports on CNN about Nigerian soldiers charging down and uprooting Foday Sankoh's tough rebel group in Freetown Sierra Leone with fire support cover from the Nigerian Navy Warships far out to sea (a first ever operation of its kind in Africa never mind West Africa) Those were the days we cemented our reputation as the best military group in Africa....But corruption,tribalism and,ironically to a smaller extent, democracy has made them soft,impotent and clueless.These days the sight of military chiefs with potbellies are very common....I can't remember Abacha,Abubakar or even the laziest,Nyako sporting such.....aberrations in Nigerian Military traditions. [/b] Spot on! |
Re: What Happened To The Nigerian Army . by BodyKiss(m): 7:16am On Jul 27, 2014 |
quid: Shut up! How can a sane person be advocating dondi for president. 3 Likes |
Re: What Happened To The Nigerian Army . by BodyKiss(m): 7:17am On Jul 27, 2014 |
^^ duplicate |
Re: What Happened To The Nigerian Army . by ichidodo: 7:19am On Jul 27, 2014 |
Sunnybobo3:That is my point.How come we cannot do away with a pin prick as an insurgency as we comfortable dealt with gun shot injuries as dislodging dug-in rogue enemy troops in their own homeland?? Because tribalism and corruption has eaten deep inside the framework of the system and so our immune system cannot deal with an ordinary cold as it dealt with an Ebola affliction as before....What is stopping anybody from consulting with Victor Maalu on how to combat the menace or better still redraft top to bottom operation planners and men with those without any affiliations whatsoever? The day we eschew politics in getting things done the day boko haram ceases to exist.. 1 Like |
Re: What Happened To The Nigerian Army . by Nobody: 7:24am On Jul 27, 2014 |
Give the credit to Abacha for being able to fund the army well enough to enable it to intervene and crush rebels at home and abroad. ichidodo: [b] Life happened to them...The Nigerian Army of the military era was far much fiercer,brutal and decisive.Back then there was not much tribalism and so we had brilliant military chiefs David Mark,Tunde Ogbeha and the best of the best General Victor Maalu who could plan complex military offensives with sophistication and intellgience far ahead of their time,those were the heady days of our glory especially in Ecomog.I still remember with pride reading live reports on CNN about Nigerian soldiers charging down and uprooting Foday Sankoh's tough rebel group in Freetown Sierra Leone with fire support cover from the Nigerian Navy Warships far out to sea (a first ever operation of its kind in Africa never mind West Africa) Those were the days we cemented our reputation as the best military group in Africa....But corruption,tribalism and,ironically to a smaller extent, democracy has made them soft,impotent and clueless.These days the sight of military chiefs with potbellies are very common....I can't remember Abacha,Abubakar or even the laziest,Nyako sporting such.....aberrations in Nigerian Military traditions. [/b] 1 Like |
Re: What Happened To The Nigerian Army . by Nobody: 7:29am On Jul 27, 2014 |
Since the second coming of Thief Obasanjo, there has been a concerted and deliberate effort to weaken our armed forces, in order to prevent a military coup de tat, whilst they loot freely. Dont you realise that is why they are always retiring dozens of military Generals every few months. ichidodo: That is my point.How come we cannot do away with a pin prick as an insurgency as we comfortable dealt with gun shot injuries as dislodging dug-in rogue enemy troops in their own homeland?? Because tribalism and corruption has eaten deep inside the framework of the system and so our immune system cannot deal with an ordinary cold as it dealt with an Ebola affliction as before....What is stopping anybody from consulting with Victor Maalu on how to combat the menace or better still redraft top to bottom operation planners and men with those without any affiliations whatsoever? The day we eschew politics in getting things done the day boko haram ceases to exist.. 3 Likes |
Re: What Happened To The Nigerian Army . by signz: 7:32am On Jul 27, 2014 |
We’ve never fought this kibd of war before. Its always going to be difficult fighting against ur own people because there are bound to be people sympathetic to the terrorists. The kind of terrorism we re facibg is what Algeria faced for a decade at the cost of over 200000 lives. It took the Algerians time to defeat the terrorists and today they’ve one of the most equipped armed forces in Africa. Algeria is the 1st African nation to have 10billion dollar defence budget and because of the experience they’ve garnered, Algerian army are arguably the best in africa. The army will crush these terrorists, i have no doubt about it. We’re gettibg the right equipments now. Havibg the right miIitary equipments are very important and thats why niger deelta militantscan never embarrass the navy ever again because the navy now have the equipments to take care of militancy in our creeks. God bless Nigeria 1 Like |
Re: What Happened To The Nigerian Army . by kechywillz(m): 7:36am On Jul 27, 2014 |
When Nigeria Military started collecting egunje thats when all things fell apart 1 Like |
Re: What Happened To The Nigerian Army . by Nobody: 7:36am On Jul 27, 2014 |
GenBuhari: Since the second coming of Thief Obasanjo, there has been a concerted and deliberate effort to weaken our armed forces, in order to prevent a military coup de tat, whilst they loot freely. Dont you realise that is why they are always retiring dozens of military Generals every few months.But Obasanjo claimed that he was trying to "re-professionalize" the Nigerian military. 1 Like |
Re: What Happened To The Nigerian Army . by Nobody: 7:40am On Jul 27, 2014 |
Did nobody tell you Thief Obasanjo is a liar? CFCfan: 2 Likes |
Re: What Happened To The Nigerian Army . by Nobody: 7:41am On Jul 27, 2014 |
quid:In Liberia and Co, Corporal Musa, Seargent Yinka and Staff Seargent Chidoke saw themselves as Nigerians and will together shoot any Sawyer or Abubakar from Somalia to pieces! But in Nigeria, Corporal Musa thinks that Shekau is his brother and will not tell Staff Seargent Chidoke how to get Shekau 4 Likes |
Re: What Happened To The Nigerian Army . by dvee2: 7:45am On Jul 27, 2014 |
What happens to Nigeria Army is simple, Ethnicity and politics. When Obama took over power from Republican s, he kept the performing secretary of defence even though he was a Republican assigned. Obama only cares about his performance. BUT HERE IN NIGERIA, ONCE A NEW PRESIDENT COMES INTO POWER, HE DOESN'T TRUST ANY SITTING CHIEF OF ARMY STAFF. FOR FEAR OF COUP, THE PRESIDENT WILL BE FORCED TO CHANGE HIM WITH SOMEONE FROM HIS CLAN. IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THE PERSON IS A JUNIOR OFFICER, THEY WILL RETIRE ALL THE PROFESSIONAL OFFICERS ABOVE HIM TO PAVE WAY FOR HIS BROTHER TO BE COAS, AS GEJ DID FOR MIMIMA. This erodes professionalism that the force is well known for, and subsequently breeds division and politics. 1 Like |
Re: What Happened To The Nigerian Army . by pazienza(m): 7:53am On Jul 27, 2014 |
They were more comfortable with Northern rulers or their appointed pupettes,in the case of Obasanjo. GEJ is like a bull in a chinese shop, a party pooper for them. 1 Like |
Re: What Happened To The Nigerian Army . by pazienza(m): 8:00am On Jul 27, 2014 |
dvee2: What happens to Nigeria Army is simple, Ethnicity and politics. When Obama took over power from Republican s, he kept the performing secretary of defence even though he was a Republican assigned. Obama only cares about his performance. BUT HERE IN NIGERIA, ONCE A NEW PRESIDENT COMES INTO POWER, HE DOESN'T TRUST ANY SITTING CHIEF OF ARMY STAFF. FOR FEAR OF COUP, THE PRESIDENT WILL BE FORCED TO CHANGE HIM WITH SOMEONE FROM HIS CLAN. IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THE PERSON IS A JUNIOR OFFICER, THEY WILL RETIRE ALL THE PROFESSIONAL OFFICERS ABOVE HIM TO PAVE WAY FOR HIS BROTHER TO BE COAS, AS GEJ DID FOR MIMIMA. This erodes professionalism that the force is well known for, and subsequently breeds division and politics. Nonsense! So when those Northern rulers were busy giving Northerners more recruitment quota and tactically giving them more promotion than Easterners, so there was professionalism then? Now that GEJ has come to restore justice and equity,the silly 'mufus' who now have a sense of entitlement feel shortchanged and would drag the Army to the mud. 2 Likes |
Re: What Happened To The Nigerian Army . by coolchimex: 8:03am On Jul 27, 2014 |
A primary source of worker's efficiency is motivation; are the soldiers being well motivated? Of course NO. They earn pittance allowances (N1,000 a day in Internal Security Operations which sometimes or never gets to them as it is hijacked from the top), recruitment of stark illiterates (but they have improved now sha!), a 'don't talk' policy which makes the public to be completely unaware of what's happening inside, intimidation of juniors by seniors (both officers and soldiers), ethnic and religious sentiment (hatred), as already said lack of up to date or serviceable weapons/equipment despite the billions allocated from annual budget and most importantly: The what I can gain mentality in most Nigerian Army leaders; no one wants to be labelled 'DULL' and so there's a competition to HAMMER. How can a professional organization progress in this kind of situation? 2 Likes |
Re: What Happened To The Nigerian Army . by poiZon: 8:06am On Jul 27, 2014 |
OneNaira6: abacha of NAIRALAND. u knw we get plenty of them here like buhari, mko, atiku, tinubu et al... 1 Like |
Re: What Happened To The Nigerian Army . by poiZon: 8:12am On Jul 27, 2014 |
mrlaw93: Must u add muslim to dis post.. anoda reason dis country wont grow.. we politicize, religionize nd tribalise evrytin why wouldnt he? no be una get nigeria again? na to accord una the abokis full twale....... the cE0 Of naija. |
Re: What Happened To The Nigerian Army . by 4Play(m): 8:19am On Jul 27, 2014 |
The way Nigerians talk about Liberia and Sierra Leone, you will think they achieved their military objectives. They were far from successful - in Liberia, Charles Taylor still ascended to power as people were so terrorised by his group they felt they had to vote him in. In Sierra Leone, the RUF required additional international military presence before they could be subjugated. The Nigerian military performance was mixed at best. Somehow, a narrative has emerged that these were successful operations. If you go back in history, they couldn't defeat Niger-Delta militants, necessitating that we pay them to lay down their arms and before the ICJ ruling, failed to dislodge Cameroun from contested territories. Even the Biafra required heavy foreign military aid before they could conquer a rag tag army. This story about the invincibility of the Nigerian army is the height of self-deception. This is why when the Boko Haram menace started, I was insistent that we had no chance of defeating them anytime soon. This insurgency will subsist for many more years. 6 Likes |
Re: What Happened To The Nigerian Army . by poiZon: 8:19am On Jul 27, 2014 |
Yungmilio2: why do u think the 1billion dolls is for campaign when ur ilk said he stole 49billion dolls abi na 10 or 20billion dolls, and diezani is launderng money for him via NNPC... bros talk beta thng. if jona needs campaign money i think 1billion dolls wont be enuf considerng the emirs n sultans n a obas we hv in nigeria.... CASH N CARRY ENTITIES! |
Re: What Happened To The Nigerian Army . by san316(m): 8:21am On Jul 27, 2014 |
What happened? They were politically disvirgined and now the cant avoid further intercourse. |
Re: What Happened To The Nigerian Army . by kettykin: 8:22am On Jul 27, 2014 |
#Bring back our Ihejirika and see Boko Haram on the run once again 2 Likes |
Re: What Happened To The Nigerian Army . by poiZon: 8:23am On Jul 27, 2014 |
megadeath: Most of you brainless b@stards sit in the comforts of your houses tolerating a corrupt and economically messed up country, yet you're clamouring for a world class Military. abeg what SHOULD BE DONES? what can be DID? or what has not been DOES before that we are not DIDNT? |
Re: What Happened To The Nigerian Army . by sarutobie(m): 8:24am On Jul 27, 2014 |
CFCfan:Yea the same man who confessed with his own mouth that he minded his own business while boko haram minded theirs, hence why they didn't give him much headache during his tenure.the senile man looked the other way while bokoharam was building up base across the country. Yet he still has the guts! The guts to say it in our faces.and worse? People still revere him! And then blame the man who is currently saddled with trying to defeat these killers.how unreasonable can the people of this country be?? 2 Likes |
Re: What Happened To The Nigerian Army . by maasoap(m): 8:26am On Jul 27, 2014 |
quid:If you believe so, then so be it. Bigot that always sees everything as Muslims vs Christians. In 2011 presidential election, nobody played religious card, majority of us didn't only voted for Jona but also worked for him. Now that people realized that Jona is a disappointment and colossal failure, you guys result to playing religious game so that his second term bid can be successful. If you like, call all Nigeria Muslims Boko Haram, I don't give fvck. 1 Like |
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