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Re: Adichie’s Feminism: Vacuums And Fallacies By A. Gonzaga by TV01(m): 1:02pm On Aug 19, 2014 |
MrAnony1: LOLOLOLOL Na wa Oooh. Who let the loonies out of the psych ward? ...and the funniest thing? No male or female on the list ! I feel pressured to adopt one of the 58 listed. Perhaps a cold glass of "gender fluid" whill I mull it over ! TV |
Re: Adichie’s Feminism: Vacuums And Fallacies By A. Gonzaga by pickabeau1: 1:12pm On Aug 19, 2014 |
they have dodgy scientists that help them with this stuff Physical gender vs Mental gender A man outside, a woman inside... like the boxing promoter who wants to do a gender reassignment to make himself a woman MrAnony1: |
Re: Adichie’s Feminism: Vacuums And Fallacies By A. Gonzaga by Nobody: 2:03pm On Aug 19, 2014 |
TV01:TV, is it too late to make you my son's godfather? |
Re: Adichie’s Feminism: Vacuums And Fallacies By A. Gonzaga by TV01(m): 2:38pm On Aug 19, 2014 |
freshdude2: TV, is it too late to make you my son's godfather?I'm honoured. May your sons honour you and do your house proud. TV 4 Likes |
Re: Adichie’s Feminism: Vacuums And Fallacies By A. Gonzaga by Nobody: 2:55pm On Aug 19, 2014 |
TV01: Believe me, the honour would be mine. Your sons too. |
Re: Adichie’s Feminism: Vacuums And Fallacies By A. Gonzaga by Amya(f): 3:33pm On Aug 19, 2014 |
yuzedo: Meanwhile.... 'Everything good will come' is a terrible book. |
Re: Adichie’s Feminism: Vacuums And Fallacies By A. Gonzaga by MrAnony1(m): 10:07pm On Aug 19, 2014 |
Kay17:If you decide to change the word from "imposed" to "percieve" or "expect" that's fine but bear in mind that it would destroy your idea that the rights of women are denied to them because they are women or that men are given more rights because they are men. Let's consider these two statements. 1. Society expects men to play the role of bread winner. Notice that here the rights and duties of the bread winner are allocated to whoever is playing the role therefore if a man doesn't play the role, he won't meet this expectation and therefore will not be accorded the accompanying rights and responsibilities. 2. Society imposes upon men the role of bread winner. Notice that here the man has no other choice than to play his role as bread winner and hence he is accorded the rights and responsibilities of bread winner whether he plays the role or not. See the difference? Compare to this. 1. Society expects East Africans to be marathon winners. This means that Kenyans usually win marathons but if East Africans lose a marathon, they would have failed to meet the societies expectation and therefore doesn't get the benefits of being a marathon winner. 2. Society allocates the position of marathon winner to East Africans. This on the other hand means that the position and the benefits that come with it are given to the East African independent of whether he plays the role or not. Or this.... 1. The Nigerian society perceives that suya sellers are Hausa/Fulani men. 2. The Nigerian soociety imposes the role of suya seller upon Hausa/Fulani men. Words have meanings my friend. Those two statements mean very different things, If you really can't tell the difference in our positions after all the examples I have provided then that's just too bad. By changing the wording as you have suggested, you will be effectively agreeing with me that just because most men or women play a particular role, doesn't make the role imposed on them and hence roles played by people do not make them unequal in any real sense especially if they are free to play the said role. You just introduced/invented the bolded, and I do not know what biological gender means. And what could you possibly mean by sociological gender?biological gender traits are those traits by which one may characterize males and females based on their biological make-up. e.g. the presence of male or female reproductive organs in the individuals. sociological gender traits are traits typically exhibited by the male or female genders e.g. Men generally tend to be more agressive and reckless while women generally tend to be more emotional and easily moved to tears. Hope that has now been cleared up for you. I just told you already. WHO's definition which you provided is leans feminist. This was what you said: And this is what I was responding to when I said that: ....However, in many other contexts, including some areas of social sciences, gender includes sex or replaces it. Although this change in the meaning of gender can be traced to the 1980s...If you want to hold that your article contradicts itself, I guess you are free to do so. I have not been decietful in any way. I think you are still annoyed at how I exposed your dishonesty here: https://www.nairaland.com/1835324/adichies-feminism-vacuums-fallacies-gonzaga/23#25510581 This seems to me to be an attempt to hit back. It failed |
Re: Adichie’s Feminism: Vacuums And Fallacies By A. Gonzaga by Kay17: 10:46pm On Aug 19, 2014 |
MrAnony1:and you ignored all about the social construct aspect and devoted your attention to pedantry. biological gender traits are those traits by which one may characterize males and females based on their biological make-up. e.g. the presence of male or female reproductive organs in the individuals.what's sociological in that?! Hope that has now been cleared up for you. Good night. I'm done with you. 1 Like |
Re: Adichie’s Feminism: Vacuums And Fallacies By A. Gonzaga by MrAnony1(m): 11:13pm On Aug 19, 2014 |
Kay17: and you ignored all about the social construct aspect and devoted your attention to pedantry.No it is not pedantry. It is the core of what we have been arguing about all along. You need to show that roles are imposed upon the sexes and it is not the case that they are freely choosing them. You still haven't done this and because you have failed to meet your burden of proof, your whole argument fails what's sociological in that?!What's sociological in what? Good night. I'm done with you....Or are you? 2 Likes |
Re: Adichie’s Feminism: Vacuums And Fallacies By A. Gonzaga by Joshthefirst(m): 12:54am On Aug 20, 2014 |
TV01: |
Re: Adichie’s Feminism: Vacuums And Fallacies By A. Gonzaga by apolonius(m): 7:07am On Aug 20, 2014 |
The world can happily accommodate Adiche's and your views. Just get busy sharing your own views than react to a young woman who is passionately sharing her thoughts and opinion on life and its issues. |
Re: Adichie’s Feminism: Vacuums And Fallacies By A. Gonzaga by Faun(m): 12:09pm On Aug 20, 2014 |
Damn! This guy finished Chimamanda here and I love it! Perfectly pieced! By the way, she just released another st*upid book yesterday, called "We Should All Be Feminists". Well, na only the gullible she dey mislead. 2 Likes |
Re: Adichie’s Feminism: Vacuums And Fallacies By A. Gonzaga by iykedare(m): 12:39am On Jun 01, 2015 |
Biitch please, I mentioned you by name. The "classy" thing to do is return the favour. Been a while I roasted your shrivelled arze. Remember when last you bleated? I'll joggle your memory. Lol |
Re: Adichie’s Feminism: Vacuums And Fallacies By A. Gonzaga by Crystal3214(f): 7:23am On Jun 01, 2015 |
the writer has made her point so der's notin u all can do about......d fact here is dat u pple refuse to accept the real meaning of feminism instead u choose the one dat suits u best anyway sha everyone to his or her own ideas........# am not a feminist |
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