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Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by HappyJoe: 10:40pm On Aug 02, 2014 |
pazienza: People overestimate the economic viability of Yorubaland. If the leave Nigeria, within two years one or more rival deep sea ports to Lagos can built in the Niger Delta, so on what will the economic viability of Oduduwa Republic rest on if Lagos has a serious competitor. Throughout the June 12 struggle, Yorubas realized this - there's nothing you can build in Lagos that you cannot build in Calabar or Ibaka or on many locations on the Niger Delta coast, so they'd have a lot to lose if not part of Nigeria. Lagos is prosperous because it is an "entreport" city to the "interior" (the interior being the rest of Nigeria). Take away Nigeria from Lagos, Lagos fails. 6 Likes |
Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by EMANY01(m): 10:54pm On Aug 02, 2014 |
omololu2020: mr man,how old are you? Reading his posts, I thought to ask him the same question. |
Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by pazienza(m): 11:10pm On Aug 02, 2014 |
HappyJoe: Yes, Lagos wont remain a mega city,if Yolobars get Odua republic. But Yolobars would be better off in an Odua republic, if they are strong enough to repel Arewa's invasion. They have an educated populace,large pool of intellectuals and resourceful persons,vast arable land, oil in the ilaje area and a sea port that the North would still have to pay to use. Lagos would become a cleaner city, and less congested, a befiting capital city for Odua republic. Odua republic would not stand independent or prosperous,if they are not able to prevent Arewa's invasion and retain sole control of their ports and leadership, Awo probably recognized that fact, which was why he wasn't eager for an Odua republic in 1967, as doing so would free the East, leaving Yolobaland open to political and Economic slavery,to Arewa. Yoloba's best shot at having a viable Odua republic depended/ depends on weakening the North's military strenght over them, while at the same time increasing their own military strenght. Had Awo succeeded in usurping IBB, Odua republic would have been viable. 1 Like |
Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by omololu2020(m): 11:49pm On Aug 02, 2014 |
EasternLeopard:in d event of a war,what will d south east sell to acquire attack helicopter,mortars,tanks etc. 1 Like |
Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by tit(f): 12:04am On Aug 03, 2014 |
2015 will not be like 1966. First of all, There would be no governor of the Eastern Region. That makes group cohesion near impossible. At the same time, the eleven governors of the area formerly called Biafra would help prevent total breakdown of law and order. They would seek a political solution to any crisis. What would be flare that ignites the crisis. APC losing the 2015 presidental elections? PDP losing the 2015 presidential elections? If Jonathan wins in 2015, why would the Fulani rebel? They only have to wait four years to get a clear shot at the presidency and their man Sambo is in pole position for the 2019 presidency. It would be very foolish of them to stake everything. They might end up losing the Hausa kingdoms our forefather Uthman Dan Fodio worked hard to usurp. Any riots in the streets will be firmly and decisively dealt with. If APC wins 2015, the SE will realign immediately. The Ijaws will continue the sabotage of oil installations and the low intensity guerrilla warfare will resume. Nigeria's oil riches will eventually dry up. If Nigeria descends into chaos, a lot depends on who is the legitimate head of state. The Northern minorities will coalesce under the leadership of the Eggon for their self interest. 2 Likes |
Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by thewarrior72: 12:26am On Aug 03, 2014 |
I was here, though late |
Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by EasternLeopard: 8:36am On Aug 03, 2014 |
omololu2020: in d event of a war,what will d south east sell to acquire attack helicopter,mortars,tanks etc. Sorry you do not know the mineral resources deposited in Igboland Oil deposits exist in all SE States that of Ebonyi is called shale oil Enugu Anambra has oil deposits IMO Abia are oil producing states Delta Rivers Igboland are oil producing regions Its a shame you don't know this Pls leave your enclave for other enclaves 1 Like |
Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by EasternLeopard: 8:52am On Aug 03, 2014 |
tit: 2015 will not be like 1966. Eggon Mrs tit You think we dey joke for this forum A beg we dey serious now wey Arewas don dey go gaga. |
Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by omololu2020(m): 9:21am On Aug 03, 2014 |
EasternLeopard:which part of delta igbo z oil located,all d oil in imo,anambra,enugu,abia r not up to 500,000 barrels a day 2 Likes |
Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by HappyJoe: 9:28am On Aug 03, 2014 |
omololu2020: which part of delta igbo z oil located,all d oil in imo,anambra,enugu,abia r not up to 500,000 barrels a day Actually, 300,000 barrels a day are enough to run a country that has direction - but not a lootocracy like Nigeria. 3 Likes |
Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by omololu2020(m): 9:43am On Aug 03, 2014 |
HappyJoe:den if igbos can produce up to 300,000 barrels of oil n xchange it for weapons,we yorubas can also produce more dan 300,000 barrels of oil n change it for weapons |
Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by EasternLeopard: 9:47am On Aug 03, 2014 |
omololu2020: which part of delta igbo z oil located,all d oil in imo,anambra,enugu,abia r not up to 500,000 barrels a day When going into oil for weapons You look at your oil reserve What am trying to say is You look at the quantity of oil deposited in the ground Let's assume the oil produced everyday is 500 000 barrels but the oil in the soil is 500 trillion barrels What we will do is to go into contract with the arms supplier that he should supply weapons worth 500 million barrels. |
Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by Blackvampire(m): 9:50am On Aug 03, 2014 |
omololu2020: which part of delta igbo z oil located,all d oil in imo,anambra,enugu,abia r not up to 500,000 barrels a dayAniomans which is Delta igbo have huge deposits in places like ndokwa west n ndokwa east they hav not started drilling..yet am from there 4 Likes |
Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by EasternLeopard: 9:51am On Aug 03, 2014 |
Omololu What you should ask yourself is What is the quantity of oil reserve in Igboland |
Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by Nobody: 10:00am On Aug 03, 2014 |
EasternLeopard: As usual, "if", "we will","assumptions" and "fantasies" If ever one is to write a book about how to lose a war be rest assured you will be the first to be contacted for professional tips! 1 Like |
Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by pazienza(m): 10:09am On Aug 03, 2014 |
omololu2020: in d event of a war,what will d south east sell to acquire attack helicopter,mortars,tanks etc. You are puting the cart before the horse, Ndiigbo were never going to be the aggressors, so the right question should have been , where will the North get the funds to fund their invasion. 1 Like |
Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by EasternLeopard: 10:10am On Aug 03, 2014 |
torkaka: Eyaaaa I was just trying to help him have a better understanding of how oil for weapons work You can prove to me that Igbos can't fund their war by telling us the quantity of our oil reserve I understand your pains that your tribesmen don't have the resources to exert their political/military influence Well I pray they do But for now they don't have it which is more reason why you should face reality Pls also note Oil production is not the same as oil reserve America imports oil even though she has a huge reserve at Alaska. 1 Like |
Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by omololu2020(m): 10:55am On Aug 03, 2014 |
pazienza:y do u fink d north would b d aggressors |
Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by pazienza(m): 11:01am On Aug 03, 2014 |
Let me paint a picture of what would happen following the collapse of the country. 1. Communities with onshore oil wells would occupy their oil wells,kicking out the oil companies operating there,or forcing them to stop paying loyalty to the FG but to them,if they are to continue operation there. So the FG would lose control of it's oil revenue. 2. There will be a race for the control of the offshore oil wells, a lot will depend on who is in control of the FG,if it's the South south as it currently stands, then the picture even looks worse for the North. Having a good navy would be a big deciding factor, but with no sea access, how can the North even compete for the offshore wells? This is exactly why an Odua-Arewa alliance is a must, the Yolobas would either have a peaceful alliance with Arewa,or die with them on battle field,while the East and ND enjoy their peace. Yolobas have no option but to agree on an master-slave alliance with Arewa. 3. The governors are not going to able to keep power, with the loss of the FG,comes the loss of the monthly allocation that gives them power, and with the loss of their military and police escorts,who are federal agents, and would have all gone back to their respective homes. I don't see the Governors retaining power, with no FG allocation, they wont be able to pay their workers, angry populace will be after their heads after enduring years of incompetence and corruption from them,if anything the governors would be on the run to go eat their loots at a first world country,together with their families. For Igboland,there will be a new order, built from the smallest units of government in Igboland today, THE TOWN UNIONS. An assembly consisting of representatives from every town in Igboland, Igbo elite groups like Aka ikenga and Ohanaeze, with some prominent Obis/Igwes/Ezes, will be formed, they will be the decision making body for Igboland,and power would return to the people. 1 Like |
Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by pazienza(m): 11:02am On Aug 03, 2014 |
omololu2020: y do u fink d north would b d aggressors Sea ports and Crude oil. They are the north's birth right, the gift of allah to them, the islamic north wont allow any of those two to go,without puting up a fight. *grins* 1 Like |
Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by HappyJoe: 11:08am On Aug 03, 2014 |
pazienza: Let me paint a picture of what would happen following the collapse of the country. True, a collapse of this nation would be bloody. Ijaws don't really have leadership, so militants will fight each other over oil revenues. Cross River/Akwa Ibom will have less issues. I'm not that confident about Ndigbo; a lot of greedy self-centered "leaders" with no vision. Any group that doesn't demonstrate leadership now, won't magically demonstrate it in chaos. 3 Likes |
Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by ikeyman00(m): 11:28am On Aug 03, 2014 |
^^^^ keep fooling yourself; in the New Biafra we will not give chance to such nonesense anyway; the greedy ones are the so called niger-delta that believe building a country is all about oil black people black syndrome! im not igbo and u are igbo but igbo are greedy and the hausa-fulani-oduduwa boko harem control the oil and pollute our land and etc nooo we want niger-delta republic because the igbo will dominate us oooo; we no want dem oo stilll waiting for the chinese in hong kong; malaysia etc deny they are not chinese fooooooooooooooooooooools 1 Like |
Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by TabletMan: 1:13pm On Aug 03, 2014 |
pazienza: Thank you my brother... This is what I am trying to explain to easternleopard but I see he is living in a fantasy world. Telling him self lies upon lies just to feel good. We are going to protect ourselves and not some foolish alliance with people who view you same way they view their enemy. 2 Likes |
Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by EasternLeopard: 1:48pm On Aug 03, 2014 |
TabletMan: I don't need to argue with you because your view shows that you were too young when Ojukwu was alive Son People like me learnt from Ojukwu when he was alive. Ojukwu made us realise that the best bet for Igbos is to work with other groups when they realized the truth You think I live in fantasy How old were you when Ojukwu secretly made a pact with the ND to present a common front which was one of the factors that spurr militancy How old were you when Ojukwu secretly approached the Tivs How old were you when Ojukwu went to Kaduna under CAN and told the Igbo to rally with the MB to resist Arewa forces Do you know why GEJ gave Ojukwu a burial Gowon will never receive. A burial attended by Asari Do you know why GEJ called Igbo the pillar of his government Do you know why GEJ keeps appointing COAS that have Igbo blood Son People like me are Ojukwu's secret soldiers who perfectly understand Ojukwu's plan and will carry it out by God's grace As for the Tivs They are gradually seeing reality and will completely embrace reality when Areas forces crush them heavily Already some part of their land is under Fulani control. More will fall then the scale covering their eyes will fall Finally if you don't know our strategic military plan let me tell babies like you No war must ever again be fought on Igboland Keep the war far away as possible 2 Likes |
Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by Nobody: 2:21pm On Aug 03, 2014 |
EasternLeopard: Good Lord, I have been arguing with the igbo version of MUSIWA!!! Give details of the deal Ojukwu (RIP) had with the ND Name the parts of Tiv land under fulani control. Enlighten us by giving us factual details of all the pacts Ojukwu (RIP) had as you mentioned. Give us details of why GEJ holds Ojukwu (RIP) in high esteem. Give us details why GEJ appoints COAS with igbo blood (as claimed by you). Unless you give coherent answers, you remain a man living in a fantasy world!! 4 Likes |
Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by TabletMan: 2:48pm On Aug 03, 2014 |
EasternLeopard:Fantasy upon fantasy.. Ojukwu made us realize its good to work with MB people? Yet you're the only igbo man who knows abt it. The same MB people especially from benue who has been spying on the rest of the country since after the war with their eyes boldly fix on Igboland. Have u ever ask yourself why there is quick response of military intervention whenever riot break out in Osha and Aba? The spies that Acf abi afc impose on the whole nations are working hand in hand with the police and army to protect the lives of their people living in the east, and most of these people are from middlebelt. The fight you're seeing on newspaper about fulani and some MB are just like village clash. When the time comes the grain must be separate from the chaff. Ojukwu made a secret visit to kaduna? How do u hear abt the visit since its secret? This thing you're typing a mere fantasies. We are to work with ND because of asari claims? But I repeat Ijaw man view the three big ethnic groups in Nigeria same way. But u can keep on lying to yourself to belong. The only thing we now have in common with Ijaw is the support of Gej government. If he happens to be assassinated if elected next year, Ijaw people will fight their wars if they are able without us getting involve unless you're going to join asari group since you have something special for him. That point three and four that was made by pazienza is the crux of the matter in igboland and not a nonsense alliance with saboteurs. 3 Likes |
Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by EasternLeopard: 3:27pm On Aug 03, 2014 |
TabletMan: Fantasy upon fantasy.. Ojukwu made us realize its good to work with MB people? Yet you're the only igbo man who knows abt it. The same MB people especially from benue who has been spying on the rest of the country since after the war with their eyes boldly fix on Igboland. Have u ever ask yourself why there is quick response of military intervention whenever riot break out in Osha and Aba? The spies that Acf abi afc impose on the whole nations are working hand in hand with the police and army to protect the lives of their people living in the east, and most of these people are from middlebelt. The fight you're seeing on newspaper about fulani and some MB are just like village clash. When the time comes the grain must be separate from the chaff. As I said you are young That is why you said I said Ojukwu made a secret visit to Kaduna Ojukwu went to Kaduna on the platform of Christian Association of Nigeria He went to Benue unannounced(secretly) to reach out to the Tivs who told him that he should re-locate his businesses to Benue. At that respond he realised the Tivs were still living in a false dream of One Nigeria As for assasination of GEJ The North should try it and see if we the true Igbos won't join the ND people You can even tell the Arewas to plot the coup and see what we the real Igbos will do to you and your Arewa masters So keep on pretending to be an Igboman or better still lead the assasination yourself and see what we Biafrans/ND forces will do to you 2015 GEJ will receive 100% votes as compared to 90% votes he received from we Igbos as at 2011. I repeat ND and MB are our allies once they realise their real enemies 1 Like |
Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by TabletMan: 4:30pm On Aug 03, 2014 |
EasternLeopard:Guy address my questions and stop beating around the bush. If you are to lead biafra then I am sorry because we have to rely on others to survive in any war/clash. Since it was a secret visit how did u know? What is the reply of the MB? I told u the little I know abt MB and their youths working for Acf but u choose fantasy. During the Onitsha 2010 crisis, one of them I use to see as a biz man who come to osha to buy goods told me this. The crisis started when a policeman shot a driver at awka road near dmgs onitsha, massob and some touts took to the streets and started killing hausa people because they believe the policeman was an hausa man, but within an hour of the crisis, that guy from Idoma told me the policeman who shot the driver is not an hausa man but a christian from benue, I made inquiry with him and he reveal his real work to me. Ojukwu is dead but you're still living with some of his fantasy. Go and read col madiebo's book abt biafra war and see what he said abt war. War is not always as planned or assumed. You and who will ally with ND and fight who if Gej is assassinated? Calling me an hausa man won't change your idea abt war to reality. One thing I notice abt u is that u choose to call an Igboman that oppose your decision an hausa man or yoruba man. And I am not ready to prove anything to you cos you're one of those Igbos preaching biafra from the Hoods of lagos . 2 Likes |
Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by customized07: 4:44pm On Aug 03, 2014 |
I have always known that the minority tribe regions will serve as a battle field, am not saying this to spite anybody, its for them to get prepared before it dawn on them. 1 Like |
Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by EasternLeopard: 4:52pm On Aug 03, 2014 |
TabletMan: Guy address my questions and stop beating around the bush. If you are to lead biafra then I am sorry because we have to rely on others to survive in any war/clash. You talk of assasination of GEJ as if he is the genesis of Nigeria's problem Why should I hate him for the sins of his foolish ancestors when he has made it clear that he do not believe in the decision his ancestors took As a true Biafra how did I feel when Ijaws judged me based on Zik and NCNC domineering arrogant attitude and decided to abandon me during the war Why should I repeat the same mistake the Ijaws committed against me that later brought pain and slavery to them You are a baby in politics Am sure if you were the British prime minister during WW2 you would have refused American help to the destruction of Britian(Note Britain colonised America) Am also sure if you were the American president during WW2 you would have refused keeping the war as far away europe as possible until Hitler's forces start knocking at the door of America( Note Britain colonised) As I said You are a baby and to add to it a political infant Politics is knowing when to identify real second thought(repentance) and work with that repented person. Ojukwu made this silly mistake against soviet union to the detriment of our Biafran project As for you question about my knowledge of Ojukwu's secret visit, because of online anti-Igbos take it or leave it as you are being told As I said in my last post Led the assasination/coup and see what we real Igbos will do to you and your Arewa masters Until then, politics of bitterness deprive you of potential repented persons Turkey a product of Ottoman empire an empire that hated Christianity/Europe is today's friend of Christianity/Europe Pls know when to forgive so that you do not deprive yourself of people who have truly repented. |
Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by EasternLeopard: 5:06pm On Aug 03, 2014 |
customized07: I have always known that the minority tribe regions will serve as a battle field, am not saying this to spite anybody, its for them to get prepared before it dawn on them. God bless you for knowing this fact As the Americans kept Hitler far away from America by using Britain as the buffer zone, so shall we keep Arewa far away from Biafra by using MB as our buffer zone. 1 Like |
Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by TabletMan: 5:14pm On Aug 03, 2014 |
EasternLeopard:OK. But please remember Ogwuche the Nyanya suicide bomber and where he is from, and also remember many more like him. You can believe whatever u want to believe. 2 Likes |
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