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Re: Ebola: Nigerians Blast US FDA For Calling Its Experimental Drug, Pesticide by HerexG(m): 9:26pm On Aug 16, 2014
carefreewannabe:

So America is your brother?

And you compare a family with three brothers to a continent with more than 50 countries?

So if America gives 2 or 3 countries something, then the other 51 must be given something too or Obama will be accused of hatred, right?

I never said America is my brother, I was refering to the invited African brothers, he shouldn't ve invited our president in the first place, they should ve treated the invited countries equally
Re: Ebola: Nigerians Blast US FDA For Calling Its Experimental Drug, Pesticide by Bintu4: 9:27pm On Aug 16, 2014
When Oga jona said America will know then we are all criticizing him, must we rely on US 2 give us go ahead on this.
Re: Ebola: Nigerians Blast US FDA For Calling Its Experimental Drug, Pesticide by Nobody: 9:28pm On Aug 16, 2014
HerexG:

I never said America is my brother, I was refering to the invited African brothers, he shouldn't ve invited our president in the first place, they should ve treated the invited countries equally

How were they treated unequally?
Re: Ebola: Nigerians Blast US FDA For Calling Its Experimental Drug, Pesticide by HerexG(m): 9:29pm On Aug 16, 2014
carefreewannabe:

How were they treated unequally?

Not giving my country what is given to other African brothers is so unacceptable
Re: Ebola: Nigerians Blast US FDA For Calling Its Experimental Drug, Pesticide by Nobody: 9:32pm On Aug 16, 2014
HerexG:

Not giving my country what is given to other African brothers is so unacceptable

Like I said, America does NOT owe Nigeria anything.

If they decide to give anything to 3 African countries, does not mean they have to give to all 54 countries. Very simple.

Stop whining and start working.
Re: Ebola: Nigerians Blast US FDA For Calling Its Experimental Drug, Pesticide by Nobody: 9:32pm On Aug 16, 2014
To hell with America dey should leave us alone na what's their problem with Nigeria from day one I see nothing good coming from America. I swear one day you will cry for Nigeria Visa.

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Re: Ebola: Nigerians Blast US FDA For Calling Its Experimental Drug, Pesticide by Jay5000(m): 9:32pm On Aug 16, 2014
Not surprised. How else will they sell zmapp? Silver (colloidal silver) has long been known to be a very safe and powerful antibiotic even though the U.S has been suppressing this info. because it can't be patented and as such is bad business for big pharma. Colloidal silver has always been known and sold in the alternative medicine market in the U.S even b4 Ebola.

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Re: Ebola: Nigerians Blast US FDA For Calling Its Experimental Drug, Pesticide by poposki33: 9:34pm On Aug 16, 2014
let them go to hell
i beleive they are behind this ebola and i want nigerians to boycott their product
Re: Ebola: Nigerians Blast US FDA For Calling Its Experimental Drug, Pesticide by HerexG(m): 9:35pm On Aug 16, 2014
carefreewannabe:

Like I said, America does NOT owe Nigeria anything.

If they decide to give anything to 3 African countries, does not mean they have to give to all 54 countries. Very simple.

Stop whining and start working.

I'm not whining, and they sure owe us nothing but all I'm saying is that you don't invite three brothers to a party, call two aside to shower them with gifts and leave the third brother with nothing.
Re: Ebola: Nigerians Blast US FDA For Calling Its Experimental Drug, Pesticide by Nobody: 9:38pm On Aug 16, 2014
HerexG:

I'm not whining, and they sure owe us nothing but all I'm saying is that you don't invite three brothers to a party, call two aside to shower them with gifts and leave the third brother with nothing.

Blame the Nigerian president. It was his job to make some profit at this "party". This is how it works. Leaders meet up and do business. GEJ failed. Obviously.
Re: Ebola: Nigerians Blast US FDA For Calling Its Experimental Drug, Pesticide by zboyd: 9:39pm On Aug 16, 2014
Nano Silver? Nigeria's Potential Ebola Treatment Unlikely to Work
By Tia Ghose, Staff Writer / livescience.com / August 15, 2014 01:43pm ET

NOTE: Ebola is a virus, therefore it has no official cure or vaccine. Treatment is primarily supportive, meaning that fluids, nutrients, and blood can be transfused via machine, and patient is made as comfortable as possible. But taking care of symptoms can only help so much. Depending on the strain of Ebola, the mortality rate is as high as 9 out of 10 infections.

Eight Ebola patients in Nigeria will be treated with an experimental drug called Nano Silver, the Nigerian minister of health said, according to news reports.

The drug was reportedly developed by a Nigerian doctor living overseas, and is being shipped to Nigeria's biggest city, Lagos. But the health minister did not disclose the name of the doctor who developed the treatment, and little else is known about it, the Wall Street Journal reported.

One possibility is that the drug is made from nanoparticles of silver, but it may also be made from other components, experts say. In any case, it's highly unlikely the medicine has ever been tested against Ebola in nonhuman animals, experts say.

"I am suspicious of the claim … of this being a viable treatment for Ebola virus, and I am worried that this will cause more harm than good," said Dr. Amesh Adalja, an infectious-disease specialist and a senior associate at the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center's Center for Health Security.

The current Ebola outbreak — the largest in history — has killed more than 1,000 people in West Africa. Because there is no approved vaccine or treatment for Ebola, and the virus has a high fatality rate, the World Health Organization decided this week that it was ethical to use unproven drugs in the current outbreak.

Two American health care workers and a Spanish priest received doses of an experimental, antibody-based drug called ZMapp. (The Americans are reported to be improving; the priest has died.) A Canadian company is donating 1,000 doses of its experimental drug to Liberia, and the U.S. Food and Drug Administration lifted a hold on using another drug, developed by Tekmira Pharmaceuticals. All of those drugs have been tested in nonhuman primates, and the Tekmira drug is going through initial safety trials in humans.

But the drug that Nigerian health officials plan to use is much less well known — and likely less tested — than any of these experimental compounds, experts say.

No one has reported on what Nano Silver is made of, or how it works.

One possibility is that the drug uses tiny — or "nano" — particles of silver. There is some evidence that silver has antimicrobial properties, said Dr. William Schaffner, a professor of preventive medicine and infectious diseases at Vanderbilt University Medical Center in Nashville, Tennessee.

But as far as taking it orally as medicine, "silver has been tried in various other circumstances against several different infections with very limited effect," Schaffner told Live Science.

Adalja noted that silver coatings on bed railings, catheters and endotracheal tubes can inhibit bacteria from colonizing those surfaces. Silver is also added to certain topical antibacterial creams, such burn creams, to prevent infection, he said.

But there's no peer-reviewed evidence that silver could help a person infected with the Ebola virus, Adalja said. And if the drug were actually made of tiny silver nanoparticles, then the particles could potentially penetrate cells and "wreak some havoc there," Adalja added.

In the U.S. and elsewhere, the diet supplement colloidal silver is popular, although drinking too much of the liquid silver suspension can have an ugly side effect: Colloidal silver can turn people blue.

But it's possible that the phrase "nano silver" is just a catchy name for a totally different compound, Adalja said.

It's unlikely that Nano Silver has been tested in animals infected with Ebola, Adalja said. In the United States, Ebola is incredibly hard to gain access to: Anyone who handles live Ebola virus must work in one of a handful of biosafety level 4 (BSL-4) laboratories, and must be cleared by both the FBI and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) to work with such a dangerous agent, Adalja said.

Another reason to doubt the treatment's validity is that any success in Ebola research tends to be big news, he said. In other words, if Nano Silver were showing promise, it would likely not have just been noticed now.

"Most of the things that are going on with Ebola are very well publicized," Adalja told Live Science.

Giving untested treatments to Ebola patients is a risky proposition, Schaffner said.

People may think to themselves, "'These are desperate circumstances. What's to lose?'" Schaffner said. "There's a terrific amount to lose."

If the drugs harm people, or are just useless, "the already shaky confidence in the health care system could be threatened," Schaffner said.

Even focusing on more tested drugs could undermine the public health effort. Quantities of all the experimental drugs are scarce, and are no substitute for "tried and true" methods for stopping Ebola, Adalja said.

"That involves basic public health and hygiene, finding cases, reporting them and tracking them," Adalja said.

http://www.livescience.com/47389-nigerian-experimental-ebola-drug.html

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Re: Ebola: Nigerians Blast US FDA For Calling Its Experimental Drug, Pesticide by Ucbiu(m): 9:40pm On Aug 16, 2014
Thunder fire u America ,... Obama chop monkey chop Ebola...

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Re: Ebola: Nigerians Blast US FDA For Calling Its Experimental Drug, Pesticide by HerexG(m): 9:40pm On Aug 16, 2014
carefreewannabe:

Blame the Nigerian president. It was his job to make some profit at this "party". This is how it works. Leaders meet up and do business. GEJ failed. Obviously.

Were you there ? How did you know GEJ didn't make the move ?
Re: Ebola: Nigerians Blast US FDA For Calling Its Experimental Drug, Pesticide by Houstency(m): 9:43pm On Aug 16, 2014
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Re: Ebola: Nigerians Blast US FDA For Calling Its Experimental Drug, Pesticide by Nobody: 9:44pm On Aug 16, 2014
HerexG:

Were you there ? How did you know GEJ didn't make the move ?

Were you there to know what happened to hate on Obama?
Re: Ebola: Nigerians Blast US FDA For Calling Its Experimental Drug, Pesticide by chokes55: 9:44pm On Aug 16, 2014
[color=#006600][/color] sadGuy pls we don't need to blast the US for now let's pray that the pesticide works first
Re: Ebola: Nigerians Blast US FDA For Calling Its Experimental Drug, Pesticide by Nobody: 9:48pm On Aug 16, 2014
Houstency:

Simply means no one is perfect and knows it all. Instead of waiting for Zmapp that is not forthcoming, dn d reasonable fin to do nw is to test the authencity of d nanosilver n stop being dependent on USA.. Think about it friend

Nanosilver is not a new thing. The developed countries have already tested it. Why don't you rely on the informtion that is already there? The USA is not sabotaging Nigeria. Why should people's health be risked if the effects of nano silver have already been tested? Instead of waisting time on something that has alraedy been tested, Nigeria should invest their time and money on serious scientific drug research like all reasonable governments do. It should not only be short-termed but long-term oriented. But nooooooooooooooo, Niegrian leaders prefer to mug their own citizens and legalise paedophilia.

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Re: Ebola: Nigerians Blast US FDA For Calling Its Experimental Drug, Pesticide by HerexG(m): 9:49pm On Aug 16, 2014
carefreewannabe:

Were you there to know what happened to hate on Obama?

The outcome of the meeting speaks for itself, I don't need an oracle to tell me that this Obama guy has something against Nigerian, maybe a Nigerian has once snatched his girlfriend before
Re: Ebola: Nigerians Blast US FDA For Calling Its Experimental Drug, Pesticide by Nobody: 9:50pm On Aug 16, 2014
HerexG:

The outcome of the meeting speaks for itself, I don't need an oracle to tell me that this Obama guy has something against Nigerian, maybe a Nigerian has once snatched his girlfriend before

Yeah, that will definitely be the reason, a Nigerian di. ck is the reason Obama hates NIgeria.

How old are you and what is your level of education?
Re: Ebola: Nigerians Blast US FDA For Calling Its Experimental Drug, Pesticide by Limaoscar: 9:52pm On Aug 16, 2014
xp17: if you want to shittt on a road, make sure you ain't going to pass that road again. Nigeria don't really need to reply the US in other to use the nano silver.

speaking from common sense, the so called nano silver appears like scam to me. this is just an independent business man who is looking to put more money in his bank . beside, nano Silver was not originally meant to cure Ebola, it was for other unrelated sicknesses, unlike the zmapp which was made just for this purpose .hence, US skepticism should be given a benefit of doubt.

if nano silver must be used, no federal budget or commitment must be made until it becomes the right medicine for Ebola . more so, a plan B (zmapp) should also be seek for, incase this fails .and from the way Nigeria is taking it, I don't see US obliging to our future requests for zmapp, should nano silver fails. perhaps, they are awaiting Nigeria crawling back to them, begging like a baby.


answer for the gods only

First off you type very poor!
secondly your p.oo is illogical and in-articulate
thirdly i don't think you understand the issue between Nigeria and the US about the Zmapp medication
Fourthly, go back to History and check if Nigeria as a soverign state has ever gone crawling and abegging for anything from the US.
Finally get out of this thread if you think we're some weak African Country....No we are Nigeria!, we are Proud of our heritage! oh....btw, this is Nairaland so shape up or ship out of this site!
Re: Ebola: Nigerians Blast US FDA For Calling Its Experimental Drug, Pesticide by HerexG(m): 9:58pm On Aug 16, 2014
carefreewannabe:

Yeah, that will definitely be the reason, a Nigerian di. ck is the reason Obama hates NIgeria.

How old are you and what is your level of education?

I'm young man and well educated, and pls note education is not necessary gotten from the four walls of school.
Re: Ebola: Nigerians Blast US FDA For Calling Its Experimental Drug, Pesticide by thegoodjoehunt3(m): 10:00pm On Aug 16, 2014
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Re: Ebola: Nigerians Blast US FDA For Calling Its Experimental Drug, Pesticide by Nobody: 10:02pm On Aug 16, 2014
HerexG:

I'm young man and well educated, and pls note education is not necessary gotten from the four walls of school.

You are obviously VERY young but definitely not well educated, neither in school nor outside.
Re: Ebola: Nigerians Blast US FDA For Calling Its Experimental Drug, Pesticide by HerexG(m): 10:04pm On Aug 16, 2014
carefreewannabe:

You are obviously VERY young but definitely not well educated, neither in school nor outside.

Thanks I will take that as a compliment.
Re: Ebola: Nigerians Blast US FDA For Calling Its Experimental Drug, Pesticide by Nobody: 10:05pm On Aug 16, 2014
HerexG:

Thanks I will take that as a compliment.

You better let it motivate you to try harder.
Re: Ebola: Nigerians Blast US FDA For Calling Its Experimental Drug, Pesticide by HerexG(m): 10:09pm On Aug 16, 2014
carefreewannabe:

You better let it motivate you to try harder.

I don't have to strife to be educated, I see each day of my life as a learning process, no man knows it all.
Re: Ebola: Nigerians Blast US FDA For Calling Its Experimental Drug, Pesticide by Nobody: 10:10pm On Aug 16, 2014
HerexG:

I don't have to strife to be educated, I see each day of my life as a learning process, no man knows it all.

This is the first sensible comment coming from you today. There is God oooo. Thank you for this.
Re: Ebola: Nigerians Blast US FDA For Calling Its Experimental Drug, Pesticide by skydancer: 10:13pm On Aug 16, 2014
Ebola can be cured with Vitamin C

In fact, it would most likely be killed by any anti-oxidant based treatment as reactive oxygen can lead to death of infected cells.

See some references:

http://www.alive.com/articles/view/16506/natures_virus_killers
http://beforeitsnews.com/beyond-science/2013/01/i-killed-the-flu-virus-in-one-night-2440664.html
http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2011-08/new-drug-can-treat-almost-any-viral-infection-cold-flu-killing-infected-cells
http://www.naturalnews.com/040770_vitamin_c_virus_dr_thomas_levy.html

Also search for any anti-viral drug, you will most likely find it's anti-oxidant
Re: Ebola: Nigerians Blast US FDA For Calling Its Experimental Drug, Pesticide by HerexG(m): 10:13pm On Aug 16, 2014
carefreewannabe:

This is the first sensible comment coming from you today. There is God oooo. Thank you for this.

Thanks I will also take this as a compliment
Re: Ebola: Nigerians Blast US FDA For Calling Its Experimental Drug, Pesticide by Nobody: 10:14pm On Aug 16, 2014
HerexG:

Thanks I will also take this as a compliment

I like your signature a lot. Another compliment wink wink
Re: Ebola: Nigerians Blast US FDA For Calling Its Experimental Drug, Pesticide by HerexG(m): 10:16pm On Aug 16, 2014
carefreewannabe:

I like your signature a lot. Another compliment wink wink

Yes that is the only reason I'm not mad at you.
Re: Ebola: Nigerians Blast US FDA For Calling Its Experimental Drug, Pesticide by Houstency(m): 10:16pm On Aug 16, 2014
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