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Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 6:13pm On Aug 31, 2014
PROPHET MUHAMMAD (pbuh) IN THE BIBLE
by Dr. Zakir Naik
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in the Old Testament:
The Qur’an mentions in Surah Al-Araf chapter 7 verse 157:
"Those who follow the Messenger, the unlettered Prophet, whom they
find mentioned in their own (scriptures) in the law and the Gospel".
1. MUHAMMAD (PBUH) PROPHESISED IN THE BOOK OF
DEUTERONOMY:
Almighty God speaks to Moses in Book of Deuteronomy
chapter 18 verse 18:
"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like
unto thee, and I will put my words in his mouth; and he
shall speak unto them all that I shall command him."
The Christians say that this prophecy refers to Jesus (pbuh)
because Jesus (pbuh) was like Moses (pbuh). Moses (pbuh)
was a Jew, as well as Jesus (pbuh) was a Jew. Moses (pbuh)
was a Prophet and Jesus (pbuh) was also a Prophet.
If these two are the only criteria for this prophecy to be
fulfilled, then all the Prophets of the Bible who came after
Moses (pbuh) such as Solomon, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Daniel,
Hosea, Joel, Malachi, John the Baptist, etc. (pbut) will
fulfill this prophecy since all were Jews as well as prophets.
However, it is Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) who is like Moses
(pbuh):
i) Both had a father and a mother, while Jesus (pbuh) was
born miraculously without any male intervention.
[Mathew 1:18 and Luke 1:35 and also Al-Qur'an 3:42-47]
ii) Both were married and had children. Jesus (pbuh)
according to the Bible did not marry nor had children.
iii) Both died natural deaths. Jesus (pbuh) has been raised up
alive. (4:157-158)
Muhammad (pbuh) is from among the brethren of Moses
(pbuh). Arabs are brethren of Jews. Abraham (pbuh) had two
sons: Ishmail and Isaac (pbut). The Arabs are the
descendants of Ishmail (pbuh) and the Jews are the
descendants of Isaac (pbuh).
Words in the mouth:
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was unlettered and whatever
revelations he received from Almighty God he repeated them
verbatim.
"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like
unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall
speak unto them all that I shall command him."
[Deuteronomy 18:18]
iv) Both besides being Prophets were also kings i.e. they could
inflict capital punishment. Jesus (pbuh) said, "My
kingdom is not of this world." (John 18:36).
v) Both were accepted as Prophets by their people in their
lifetime but Jesus (pbuh) was rejected by his
people. John chapter 1 verse 11 states, "He came unto his
own, but his own received him not."
iv) Both brought new laws and new regulations for their
people. Jesus (pbuh) according to the Bible did not bring
any new laws. (Mathew 5:17-18) .
2. It is Mentioned in the book of Deuteronomy chapter 18:19
"And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not harken
unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will
require it of him."
3. Muhammad (pbuh) is prophesised in the book of Isaiah:
It is mentioned in the book of Isaiah chapter 29 verse 12:
"And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying,
Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned."
When Archangel Gabrail commanded Muhammad (pbuh) by
saying Iqra - "Read", he replied, "I am not learned" .
4. prophet Muhammad (pbuh) mentioned by name in the old
testament:
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is mentioned by name in the Song
of Solomon chapter 5 verse 16:
" Hikko Mamittakim we kullo Muhammadim Zehdoodeh wa
Zehraee Bayna Jerusalem ."
"His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is altogether lovely. This is
my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters
of Jerusalem."
In the Hebrew language im is added for respect. Similarely im
is added after the name of Prophet Muhammad
(pbuh) to make it Muhammadim. In English translation they
have even translated the name of Prophet Muhammad
(pbuh) as "altogether lovely", but in the Old Testament in
Hebrew, the name of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is yet
present.
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in the New Testament:
Al-Qur'an Chapter 61 Verse 6:
"And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said, 'O Children of Israel! I
am the messenger of Allah (sent) to you, confirming the Law (which
came) before me and giving glad tidings of a messenger to come
after me, whose name shall be Ahmed.' But when he came to them
with clear signs, they said, 'This is evident sorcery!' "
All the prophecies mentioned in the Old Testament regarding
Muhammad (pbuh) besides applying to the Jews also hold good for
the Christians.
1. John chapter 14 verse 16:
"And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another
Comforter, that he may abide with you forever."
2. Gospel of John chapter 15 verse 26:
"But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you
from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which
proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me."
3. Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 7:
"Nevertheless I tell you the truth; it is expedient for you that I
go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not
come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you".
"Ahmed" or "Muhammad" meaning "the one who praises" or
"the praised one" is almost the translation of the
Greek word Periclytos. In the Gospel of John 14:16, 15:26, and
16:7. The word 'Comforter' is used in the English
translation for the Greek word Paracletos which means
advocate or a kind friend rather than a comforter.
Paracletos is the warped reading for Periclytos. Jesus (pbuh)
actually prophesised Ahmed by name. Even the
Greek word Paraclete refers to the Prophet (pbuh) who is a
mercy for all creatures.
Some Christians say that the Comforter mentioned in these
prophecies refers to the Holy Sprit. They fail to realise
that the prophecy clearly says that only if Jesus (pbuh)
departs will the Comforter come. The Bible states that the
Holy Spirit was already present on earth before and during the
time of Jesus (pbuh), in the womb of Elizabeth, and again
when Jesus (pbuh) was being baptised, etc. Hence this
prophecy refers to none other than Prophet
Muhammad (pbuh).
4. Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 12-14:
"I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear
them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth is
come, he will guide you unto all truth: for he shall not speak of
himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak:
and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me".
The Sprit of Truth, spoken about in this prophecy referes to none
other than Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)
NOTE : All quotations of the Bible are taken from the King James
Version.
Reference: http://www.irf.net/irf/comparativereligion/index.htm
Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by fijiano202(m): 6:44pm On Aug 31, 2014
yeah like 50 cent in the quran

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Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 9:14pm On Aug 31, 2014
fijiano202: yeah like 50 cent in the quran
PLEASE I DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT U MEAN
Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by Emusan(m): 9:25am On Sep 02, 2014
Which Bible?
The one that contains many contradictions or the one that has been change or the historian narrated one which Christians have today according to Muslims?
Or Muslims have finally gotten the original Torah of Moses and Injil of Jesus?

Confuse people!

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Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 10:18am On Sep 02, 2014
Emusan: Which Bible?
The one that contains many contradictions or the one that has been change or the historian narrated one which Christians have today according to Muslims?
Or Muslims have finally gotten the original Torah of Moses and Injil of Jesus?

Confuse people!
yes some bible parts has been tampered with any aspect that contradict islamic teaching is not from GOD even though it has been tampered we can still find some few traces of prophet muhammad and some few islamic teaching that ur people forgot to tamper with.......because GOD knows that if he allows u to tamper with everything before the spirit of truth come it will be difficult for people to believe
Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by Emusan(m): 11:36am On Sep 02, 2014
Abdulsalam20: yes some bible parts has been tampered with any aspect that contradict islamic teaching is not from GOD

Lolll....
So how can Allah be so weak to protect Bible when Allah can't allow anybody to tamper with Qur'an?

even though it has been tampered with we can still find some few traces of prophet muhammad and some few islamic teaching that ur people forgot to tamper with

Who are the people me or people who live before Muhammad or after Muhammad?
Qur'an say no one can change the word of Allah, so why Bible was tampered with?

because GOD knows that if he allows u to tamper with everything before the spirit of truth come it will be difficult for people to believe

Yet the same God who can't allow anybody to tamper with Qur'an is so weak to allow another people to tamper with Bible.
How does it sound?

The next thing Muslim will do now is to claim all the prophecies in the Bible for saw or what did you people call him?

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Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by malvisguy212: 12:47pm On Sep 02, 2014
Emusan:

Lolll....
So how can Allah be so weak to protect Bible when Allah can't allow anybody to tamper with Qur'an?



Who are the people me or people who live before Muhammad or after Muhammad?
Qur'an say no one can change the word of Allah, so why Bible was tampered with?



Yet the same God who can't allow anybody to tamper with Qur'an is so weak to allow another people to tamper with Bible.
How does it sound?

The next thing Muslim will do now is to claim all the prophecies in the Bible for saw or what did you people call him?
the more they use the bible to look for muhammad the more they make allah weaker.

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Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 1:02pm On Sep 02, 2014
Emusan:

Lolll....
So how can Allah be so weak to protect Bible when Allah can't allow anybody to tamper with Qur'an?



Who are the people me or people who live before Muhammad or after Muhammad?
Qur'an say no one can change the word of Allah, so why Bible was tampered with?



Yet the same God who can't allow anybody to tamper with Qur'an is so weak to allow another people to tamper with Bible.
How does it sound?

The next thing Muslim will do now is to claim all the prophecies in the Bible for saw or what did you people call him?
as it is said in revelation 14:6 pls which angel is flying with the everlasting gospel that is gabriel who reveal the quran tomuhammad(saw) and what is the ever lasting gospel that is the quran the torah of moses and the injeel are just a warning to the bani israila just as it is said in the book of moses above that i will bring up a prophet like u from among my brethen......THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHERE THE BIBLE IS TAMPERED WITH THE BIBLE PERMIT ALCOHOL IT EVEN CALL GOD A DRUNKARD..... psalm
78:65 then the lord awoke as from sleep as a
man wakes from the stupor of wine. See how
Christians disgrace their God,
also this Jeremiah 25:15-16 This is what the LORD, the
God of Israel, said to me: “Take from my hand
this cup filled with the wine of my wrath and
make all the nations to whom I send you
drink it.When they drink it, they will stagger
and go mad because of the sword I will send
among them.”Also in Jeremiah 25:27-28 Then
tell them, ‘This is what the LORD Almighty, the
God of Israel, says: Drink, get drunk and
vomit, and fall to rise no more because of the
sword I will send among you.’ .........SO U CAN SEE GOD KNOWS THE BANI ISRAILA WILL TAMPER HIS WORD THAT IS WHY HE BRING US THE EVERLASTING GOSPEL WHICH IS THE QURAN NO ONE HAS EVER TAMPERED IT,NO SINGLE CONTRADICTION EVEN UNITED STATE USE MILLIONS OF DOLLAR TO TEST WHAT THE QURAN SAY IN THE ASPECT OF SCIENCE THEY ARE LEFT WITH THEIR MOUTH OPEN BECAUSE THEY FOUND THE TRUTH AND THAT IS WHY ISLAM IS THE FASTEST GROWING RELIGION IN UNITED STATE REPENT AND FOLLOW THE TRUTH
Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by Emusan(m): 2:44pm On Sep 02, 2014
Abdulsalam20: as it is said in [size=14pt]revelation 14:6[/size] pls which angel is flying with the everlasting gospel that is gabriel who reveal the quran to muhammad(saw)

Angel Jibril indeed....as if you believe in the written of John himself.

and what is the ever lasting gospel that is the quran, the torah of moses and the injeel are just a warning to the bani israila just as it is said in the book of moses above that i will bring up a prophet like u from among my brethren

Yet you said the torah and the Injil have been tampered with....Now they're part of everlasting gospel! Confusion.

HIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHERE THE BIBLE IS TAMPERED WITH THE BIBLE PERMIT ALCOHOL IT EVEN CALL GOD A DRUNKARD..... psalm
78:65 then the lord awoke as from sleep as a
man wakes from the stupor of wine. See how
Christians disgrace their God,
also this Jeremiah 25:15-16 This is what the LORD, the
God of Israel, said to me: “Take from my hand
this cup filled with the wine of my wrath and
make all the nations to whom I send you
drink it.When they drink it, they will stagger
and go mad because of the sword I will send
among them.”Also in Jeremiah 25:27-28 Then
tell them, ‘This is what the LORD Almighty, the
God of Israel, says: Drink, get drunk and
vomit, and fall to rise no more because of the
sword I will send among you.’

Straw man argument, how does these verses relate with tampering?

SO U CAN SEE GOD KNOWS THE BANI ISRAILA WILL TAMPER [size=14pt]HIS WORD[/size]

This is where I'm going and my question you didn't answer.
1) Quran says the word of Allah can't be change but because you want to prove that Allah is a liar you said Allah's word can be change.
2) How is it possible for Allah to protect Quran from being change and difficult for Allah to prevent your Bani Israel from tampering with its word?

THAT IS WHY HE BRING US THE EVERLASTING GOSPEL WHICH IS THE QURAN NO ONE HAS EVER TAMPERED IT,

This is the lie you're being feeding with, infact not that no one tampered with quran BUT Devil himself has his own writing inside Quran called satanic verses.

NO SINGLE CONTRADICTION

Maybe your problem is you don't browse other than Islamic site where contradiction in Quran will never mention....kindly do yourself a favour by typing "contradiction in quran" on Google maybe you will see any link pop up.


EVEN UNITED STATE USE MILLIONS OF DOLLAR TO TEST WHAT THE QURAN SAY IN THE ASPECT OF SCIENCE THEY ARE LEFT WITH THEIR MOUTH OPEN BECAUSE THEY FOUND THE TRUTH AND THAT IS WHY ISLAM IS THE FASTEST GROWING RELIGION IN UNITED STATE

Science when your book says earth is flat...
Fast growing religion on paper, why not using Nigeria as an example?

REPENT AND FOLLOW THE TRUTH

Jesus says "Ye shall know The Truth and the Truth shall set you free" John 8:32
What is this truth that we shall know?
Jesus answered the question "Jesus said unto him I am the Way, THE TRUTH, and the Life, no one come to the Father except through Him" John 14:6

Can you see who need to follow the Truth

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Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by Emusan(m): 2:45pm On Sep 02, 2014
malvisguy212: the more they use the bible to look for muhammad the more they make allah weaker.

Don't mind him, he couldn't answer simple question.

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Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by malvisguy212: 5:20pm On Sep 02, 2014
Emusan:

Don't mind him, he couldn't answer simple question.
bless you brother.he called muhammad the spirit of truth even dough he himself don't know the spirit of truth.muhammad is a false prophet according to quran29:27.
Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by cloudstar: 10:21pm On Sep 02, 2014
Gentlemen,

It'a always laughable when ignorant Muslims that listen to ignorant imams come online and post intellectually bankrupt references that they can't defend. The poster should tell us why His brothers in Iraq & Syria are beheading innocent people.

He wouldn't talk about Mohammad marrying 6 year old kids and sleeping with them when they were 9 but he would "find" Mohammad in the Bible. grin. Mumuness is common in Islam
Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 10:32pm On Sep 02, 2014
Emusan:

Angel Jibril indeed....as if you believe in the written of John himself.



Yet you said the torah and the Injil have been tampered with....Now they're part of everlasting gospel! Confusion.



Straw man argument, how does these verses relate with tampering?



This is where I'm going and my question you didn't answer.
1) Quran says the word of Allah can't be change but because you want to prove that Allah is a liar you said Allah's word can be change.
2) How is it possible for Allah to protect Quran from being change and difficult for Allah to prevent your Bani Israel from tampering with its word?



This is the lie you're being feeding with, infact not that no one tampered with quran BUT Devil himself has his own writing inside Quran called satanic verses.



Maybe your problem is you don't browse other than Islamic site where contradiction in Quran will never mention....kindly do yourself a favour by typing "contradiction in quran" on Google maybe you will see any link pop up.




Science when your book says earth is flat...
Fast growing religion on paper, why not using Nigeria as an example?



Jesus says "Ye shall know The Truth and the Truth shall set you free" John 8:32
What is this truth that we shall know?
Jesus answered the question "Jesus said unto him I am the Way, THE TRUTH, and the Life, no one come to the Father except through Him" John 14:6

Can you see who need to follow the Truth
PLEASE POST THE EVIDENCE FOR ME JUST A SINGLE CONTRADICTION AND WHERE QURAN CONTRADICT SCIENCE.........IF JESUS SAY I AM THE WAY AND THE TRUTH WHOEVER FOLLOW ME SHALL NOT GO ASTRAY HE IS RIGHT BUT U MIS INTERPRET HIM WHAT HE IS SAYING IS THAT IF U FOLLOW HIS TEACHING U WILL NOT GO ASTRAY WHEN HE TALK ABOUT MUHAMMAD U DENY IT........WOO UNTO U
Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 10:37pm On Sep 02, 2014
The prophecy of Deuteronomy 18:18 continues. God says:
"...I will put my words in his mouth..."
'Putting words in his mouth' - is one of the distinct divine
knowledge of Allah to Prophet Muhammad, because, he was
not Learned, and he can not carry the responsibility except
Allah teaches him what to say! Consider the following in
Isaiah 29:12, as I mentioned several times in my rebuttals
above - In which, it had only happened to Prophet
Muhammad in the Cave of Hira - when Angel Gabriel met
him and asked him the following: 'READ', and Prophet
Muhammad said: 'I AM NOT LEARNED', Angel Gabriel
repeated three times the same word 'READ' and Prophet
Muhammad was answering the same words: 'I AM NOT
LEARNED.' Then later, Angel Gabriel proceeded:
"Read in the name of your Lord Who created.
He created man from a clot.
Read and your Lord is Most Honorable,
Who taught (to write) with the pen.
Taught man what he knew not." (Qur'an 96:1-5)
Telling to Prophet Muhammad to read is a clear indication
that Angel Gabriel was putting God's words to prophet
Muhammad's Mouth. And immediately after Angel Gabriel
continued reciting the verses of Allah, then Prophet
Muhammad rehearsed it and finally it remained in his
memory by the help of Allah Almighty. And this was the
beginning of the Qur'anic Revelation.
If some one will read the whole Qur'an with spirit of
understanding, will certainly find almost all the verses of the
Qur'an were based on the command 'SAY' to, 'SAY' to, 'SAY'
to... etc. means Allah is always the speaker and Prophet
Muhammad is the repeater or conveyor of the message to
the humanity. Examples of these verse are below:
SAY, "He is Allah , [who is] One,"
[Qur'an 112:1]
SAY, "It is only revealed to me that your god is but one God;
so will you be Muslims [in submission to Him]?"
[Qur'an 21:108]
But if they turn away, then SAY, "I have announced to [all of]
you equally. And I know not whether near or far is that which
you are promised." [Qur'an 21:109]
"And they SAY: "The Fire shall not touch us but for a few
numbered days:" Say: "Have ye taken a promise from Allah,
for He never breaks His promise? or is it that ye say of Allah
what ye do not know?" (Qur'an 2:80)
"When it is said to them, "Believe in what Allah Hath sent
down, "they say, "We believe in what was sent down to us:"
yet they reject all besides, even if it be Truth confirming what
is with them. SAY: "Why then have ye slain the prophets of
Allah in times gone by, if ye did indeed believe?" (Qur'an
2:91)
SAY, [O Muhammad], "If the home of the Hereafter with
Allah is for you alone and not the [other] people, then wish
for death, if you should be truthful." [Qur'an 2:94]
SAY: "Whoever is an enemy to Gabriel-for he brings down
the (revelation) to thy heart by Allah´s will, a confirmation of
what went before, and guidance and glad tidings for those
who believe," (Qur'an 2:97)
SAY to those who disbelieve, "You will be overcome and
gathered together to Hell, and wretched is the resting place."
[Qur'an 3:12]
SAY, "Shall I inform you of [something] better than that? For
those who fear Allah will be gardens in the presence of their
Lord beneath which rivers flow, wherein they abide eternally,
and purified spouses and approval from Allah . And Allah is
Seeing of [His] servants" [Qur'an 3:15]
SAY, "Whether ye hide what is in your hearts or reveal it,
Allah knows it all: He knows what is in the heavens, and
what is on earth. And Allah has power over all
things." (Qur'an 3:29)
SAY, "O People of the Book! come to common terms as
between us and you: That we worship none but Allah; that
we associate no partners with him; that we erect not, from
among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than Allah." If
then they turn back, SAY ye: "Bear witness that we (at least)
are Muslims (bowing to Allah´s Will)." (Qur'an 3:64)
SAY: "We believe in Allah, and in what has been revealed to
us and what was revealed to Abraham, Ismael, Isaac, Jacob,
and the Tribes, and in (the Books) given to Moses, Jesus,
and the prophets, from their Lord: We make no distinction
between one and another among them, and to Allah do we
bow our will (in Islam)." (Qur'an 3:184)
SAY: "Will ye worship, besides Allah, something which hath
no power either to harm or benefit you? But Allah,- He it is
that heareth and knoweth all things." (Qur'an 5:76)
To bring all the verses which carried this kind of divine
command 'SAY' in this book, cannot be possible, if we are to
bring it here, it directly means - bringing the whole Qur'an,
which is not possible. Therefore, the prophecy of Isaiah
29:12 and Deuteronomy 18:18 on "...I will put my words in
his mouth..." only deserves and fits to Prophet Muhammad,
not Prophet Jesus (peace and blessings of Allah be upon all
of them) the way Christians blindly assert!
The prophecy continues:
"...and he will tell them everything I commands him."
Those who know Qur’an, can give testimony on Prophet
Muhammad (pbuh) that, all what is inside it, is purely God’s
words. You cannot see a single word of his speeches which
Prophet Muhammad includes in the Qur’an. All his speeches
and his activities were kept written in separate volume of
books, called Hadith.
And anything concerning his biography is written separate in
form of books called (Siratun-Nabiyi), i.e. Books of
biography of Prophet.
It is not like a Bible, which comprises so many things, such
as God’s word, Prophets’ Words and their activities. And
descriptions of Paul’s Profile of which, is highly included in
this present Bible – imagine even the descriptions of his
family were included. That’s why, we Muslims do not believe
that, the entire present Bible, as a whole as purely God’s
word.
Therefore, we can see, exactly in the Qur'an, anywhere Allah
commands Prophet Muhammad with the command - 'SAY',
and so he commanded his companions to write the verse, in
the same format the way it comes with the word of
command (SAY), without reducing or adding to the
commands. Allah Himself is a Witness of the truthfulness of
Prophet Muhammad. Allah says:
"I swear by the star when it goes down." (Qur'an 53:1)
(English - Shakir)
"Your companion does not err, nor does he go
astray;" (Qur'an 53:2) (English - Shakir)
"Nor does he speak out of desire." (Qur'an 53:3) (English -
Shakir)
"It is naught but revelation that is revealed," (Qur'an 53:4)
(English - Shakir)
"The Lord of Mighty Power has taught him," (Qur'an 53:5)
(English - Shakir)
"The Lord of Strength; so he attained completion," (Qur'an
53:6) (English - Shakir)
Therefore, the whole prophecies of Deuteronomy 18:18, only
fit to Prophet Muhammad, not Jesus! And the above facts
refuted their assertion of these prophecies on Prophet Jesus,
in order to mislead the mankind from understanding what
God truly means in the verse.
A WARNING ON THOSE WHO REFUSED TO HEAR THE GOD’S
WORDS THROUGH THIS PROPHET:
Jerusalem Bible says:
“The man who does not listen to my words that he speaks in
my name, shall be held answerable to me for
it.” (Deuteronomy 18:19)
The Revised Standard Version says:
“And whoever will not give heed to my words which he shall
speak in my name, I myself will require it of
him” (Deuteronomy 18:19) – (NIV)
New International Version says:
“If anyone does not listen to my words that the prophet
speaks in my name, I myself will call him to
account.” (Deuteronomy 18:19)
But in the case is different in Catholic Bible, the ending
words are: “GOD WILL BE THE REVENGER.”
Here it is:
"And he that will not hear his words, which he shall speak in
my name, I will be the revenger." (Deuteronomy 18:19)
(Catholic Bible)
Note
God said: "...he that will not hear his words, which he shall
speak in my name..."
The point of view here is that, '...which he shall speak in my
name...'!
Who speaks in God's name?
The following facts will certainly tell us the person who
speaks in God's name:
Any body who reads Qur'an with understanding will certainly
give the answer!
In the whole Qur'an, every Chapter of the Qur'an begins with
the following formula:
'BISMILLAHIR RAHMANIR RAHEEM'
Means - In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful or
In the name of God, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.
What does the prophecy require? - it says: "...which he shall
speak in my name..."
In whose name Prophet Muhammad speaks here?
Before Prophet Muhammad recites any verse of the Qur'an
he says 'IN THE NAME OF Allah THE MOST GRACIOUS THE
MOST MERCIFUL' - except in chapter number 9 of the
Qur'an, it is only in the chapter Allah did not command him
to say the formula.
Moreover, when Prophet Muhammad wants to do any thing,
he used to begin with the formula: 'BISMILLAH' - means - 'IN
THE NAME OF Allah'
But the reverse is the case, when Christians want to say or
do something, they begin with:
'IN JESUS NAME' or 'IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER, SON
AND THE HOLY GHOST.'
Therefore, the prophecy says:
"And he that will not hear his words, which he shall speak in
my name, I will be the revenger."
Simply means - he that will not hear (Muhammad's words -
who speaks in Allah's name), Allah will be the revenger -
means Allah will not forgive him - which means Allah will
punish him/her in the day of Judgement, if they die in their
denial against his words!
The above verse also confirms what Allah says in the Qur'an
68:44 & 45:
"So leave Me, [O Muhammad], with [the matter of] whoever
denies the Qur'an. We will progressively lead them [to
punishment] from where they do not know. And I will give
them time. Indeed, My plan is firm."
Are these verses of Deuteronomy 18:19 (Catholic) and of
Qur'an 68:44 & 45 not enough to frighten the unbelievers?
Even Paul in his write-ups said:
"Anyone who does not listen to him will be completely cut off
from among his people.'" ( Act 3:23 ) (N.I.V.)
"Indeed, all the prophets from Samuel on, as many as have
spoken, have foretold these days." ( Act 3:24 ) (N.I.V.)
Consequently, Allah reminds the Children of Israel about the
truth of Prophet Muhammad's advent they found in their
Scriptures. Allah says in the Qur'an:
"And believe in what I have revealed (now) confirming (the
prophecies of the Scripture) which are (already) with you,
and do not be the first to deny it, neither take a paltry price
for My Messages, and Me alone you should take as a shield
(for protection)." (Qur'an 2:41, English - Amatul Rahman
Omar)
"Do not confound the truth with falsehood, nor conceal the
truth knowingly." (Qur'an 2:42, English - Amatul Rahman
Omar)
"And be steadfast in prayer; practise regular charity; and
bow down your heads with those who bow down (in
worship)." (Qur'an 2:43, English - Yusuf Ali)
Note:
Indeed, the Bible and the Qur'an have spoken the truth of the
advent of Prophet Muhammad! And it is compulsory to listen
and follow him, as stated in the verse. If you look in the
different translations of Deuteronomy 18:19:
"The man who does not listen to my words that he speaks in
my name, shall be held answerable to me for it." - Jerusalem
Version
If anyone does not listen to my words that the prophet
speaks in my name, I myself will call him to account.” - New
International Version
But the warning is highly extreme in the Catholic Bible:
"And he that will not hear his words, which he shall speak in
my name, I will be the revenger." - Catholic Version
Does this not terrify you? That God himself would call you to
account or to take revenge against you. These words are
enough for you to fear Allah and fear the day of Judgment
that, surely would come!
Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by cloudstar: 3:17am On Sep 03, 2014
Abdulsalam20: The prophecy of Deuteronomy 18:18 continues. God says:
"...I will put my words in his mouth..."
'Putting words in his mouth' - is one of the distinct divine
knowledge of Allah to Prophet Muhammad, because, he was
not Learned, and he can not carry the responsibility except
Allah teaches him what to say! Consider the following in
Isaiah 29:12, as I mentioned several times in my rebuttals
above - In which, it had only happened to Prophet
Muhammad in the Cave of Hira - when Angel Gabriel met
him and asked him the following: 'READ', and Prophet
Muhammad said: 'I AM NOT LEARNED', Angel Gabriel
repeated three times the same word 'READ' and Prophet
Muhammad was answering the same words: 'I AM NOT
LEARNED.' Then later, Angel Gabriel proceeded:
"Read in the name of your Lord Who created.
He created man from a clot.
Read and your Lord is Most Honorable,
Who taught (to write) with the pen.
Taught man what he knew not." (Qur'an 96:1-5)
Telling to Prophet Muhammad to read is a clear indication
that Angel Gabriel was putting God's words to prophet
Muhammad's Mouth. And immediately after Angel Gabriel
continued reciting the verses of Allah, then Prophet
Muhammad rehearsed it and finally it remained in his
memory by the help of Allah Almighty. And this was the
beginning of the Qur'anic Revelation.
If some one will read the whole Qur'an with spirit of
understanding, will certainly find almost all the verses of the
Qur'an were based on the command 'SAY' to, 'SAY' to, 'SAY'
to... etc. means Allah is always the speaker and Prophet
Muhammad is the repeater or conveyor of the message to
the humanity. Examples of these verse are below:
SAY, "He is Allah , [who is] One,"
[Qur'an 112:1]
SAY, "It is only revealed to me that your god is but one God;
so will you be Muslims [in submission to Him]?"
[Qur'an 21:108]
But if they turn away, then SAY, "I have announced to [all of]
you equally. And I know not whether near or far is that which
you are promised." [Qur'an 21:109]
"And they SAY: "The Fire shall not touch us but for a few
numbered days:" Say: "Have ye taken a promise from Allah,
for He never breaks His promise? or is it that ye say of Allah
what ye do not know?" (Qur'an 2:80)
"When it is said to them, "Believe in what Allah Hath sent
down, "they say, "We believe in what was sent down to us:"
yet they reject all besides, even if it be Truth confirming what
is with them. SAY: "Why then have ye slain the prophets of
Allah in times gone by, if ye did indeed believe?" (Qur'an
2:91)
SAY, [O Muhammad], "If the home of the Hereafter with
Allah is for you alone and not the [other] people, then wish
for death, if you should be truthful." [Qur'an 2:94]
SAY: "Whoever is an enemy to Gabriel-for he brings down
the (revelation) to thy heart by Allah´s will, a confirmation of
what went before, and guidance and glad tidings for those
who believe," (Qur'an 2:97)
SAY to those who disbelieve, "You will be overcome and
gathered together to Hell, and wretched is the resting place."
[Qur'an 3:12]
SAY, "Shall I inform you of [something] better than that? For
those who fear Allah will be gardens in the presence of their
Lord beneath which rivers flow, wherein they abide eternally,
and purified spouses and approval from Allah . And Allah is
Seeing of [His] servants" [Qur'an 3:15]
SAY, "Whether ye hide what is in your hearts or reveal it,
Allah knows it all: He knows what is in the heavens, and
what is on earth. And Allah has power over all
things." (Qur'an 3:29)
SAY, "O People of the Book! come to common terms as
between us and you: That we worship none but Allah; that
we associate no partners with him; that we erect not, from
among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than Allah." If
then they turn back, SAY ye: "Bear witness that we (at least)
are Muslims (bowing to Allah´s Will)." (Qur'an 3:64)
SAY: "We believe in Allah, and in what has been revealed to
us and what was revealed to Abraham, Ismael, Isaac, Jacob,
and the Tribes, and in (the Books) given to Moses, Jesus,
and the prophets, from their Lord: We make no distinction
between one and another among them, and to Allah do we
bow our will (in Islam)." (Qur'an 3:184)
SAY: "Will ye worship, besides Allah, something which hath
no power either to harm or benefit you? But Allah,- He it is
that heareth and knoweth all things." (Qur'an 5:76)
To bring all the verses which carried this kind of divine
command 'SAY' in this book, cannot be possible, if we are to
bring it here, it directly means - bringing the whole Qur'an,
which is not possible. Therefore, the prophecy of Isaiah
29:12 and Deuteronomy 18:18 on "...I will put my words in
his mouth..." only deserves and fits to Prophet Muhammad,
not Prophet Jesus (peace and blessings of Allah be upon all
of them) the way Christians blindly assert!
The prophecy continues:
"...and he will tell them everything I commands him."
Those who know Qur’an, can give testimony on Prophet
Muhammad (pbuh) that, all what is inside it, is purely God’s
words. You cannot see a single word of his speeches which
Prophet Muhammad includes in the Qur’an. All his speeches
and his activities were kept written in separate volume of
books, called Hadith.
And anything concerning his biography is written separate in
form of books called (Siratun-Nabiyi), i.e. Books of
biography of Prophet.
It is not like a Bible, which comprises so many things, such
as God’s word, Prophets’ Words and their activities. And
descriptions of Paul’s Profile of which, is highly included in
this present Bible – imagine even the descriptions of his
family were included. That’s why, we Muslims do not believe
that, the entire present Bible, as a whole as purely God’s
word.
Therefore, we can see, exactly in the Qur'an, anywhere Allah
commands Prophet Muhammad with the command - 'SAY',
and so he commanded his companions to write the verse, in
the same format the way it comes with the word of
command (SAY), without reducing or adding to the
commands. Allah Himself is a Witness of the truthfulness of
Prophet Muhammad. Allah says:
"I swear by the star when it goes down." (Qur'an 53:1)
(English - Shakir)
"Your companion does not err, nor does he go
astray;" (Qur'an 53:2) (English - Shakir)
"Nor does he speak out of desire." (Qur'an 53:3) (English -
Shakir)
"It is naught but revelation that is revealed," (Qur'an 53:4)
(English - Shakir)
"The Lord of Mighty Power has taught him," (Qur'an 53:5)
(English - Shakir)
"The Lord of Strength; so he attained completion," (Qur'an
53:6) (English - Shakir)
Therefore, the whole prophecies of Deuteronomy 18:18, only
fit to Prophet Muhammad, not Jesus! And the above facts
refuted their assertion of these prophecies on Prophet Jesus,
in order to mislead the mankind from understanding what
God truly means in the verse.
A WARNING ON THOSE WHO REFUSED TO HEAR THE GOD’S
WORDS THROUGH THIS PROPHET:
Jerusalem Bible says:
“The man who does not listen to my words that he speaks in
my name, shall be held answerable to me for
it.” (Deuteronomy 18:19)
The Revised Standard Version says:
“And whoever will not give heed to my words which he shall
speak in my name, I myself will require it of
him” (Deuteronomy 18:19) – (NIV)
New International Version says:
“If anyone does not listen to my words that the prophet
speaks in my name, I myself will call him to
account.” (Deuteronomy 18:19)
But in the case is different in Catholic Bible, the ending
words are: “GOD WILL BE THE REVENGER.”
Here it is:
"And he that will not hear his words, which he shall speak in
my name, I will be the revenger." (Deuteronomy 18:19)
(Catholic Bible)
Note
God said: "...he that will not hear his words, which he shall
speak in my name..."
The point of view here is that, '...which he shall speak in my
name...'!
Who speaks in God's name?
The following facts will certainly tell us the person who
speaks in God's name:
Any body who reads Qur'an with understanding will certainly
give the answer!
In the whole Qur'an, every Chapter of the Qur'an begins with
the following formula:
'BISMILLAHIR RAHMANIR RAHEEM'
Means - In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful or
In the name of God, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.
What does the prophecy require? - it says: "...which he shall
speak in my name..."
In whose name Prophet Muhammad speaks here?
Before Prophet Muhammad recites any verse of the Qur'an
he says 'IN THE NAME OF Allah THE MOST GRACIOUS THE
MOST MERCIFUL' - except in chapter number 9 of the
Qur'an, it is only in the chapter Allah did not command him
to say the formula.
Moreover, when Prophet Muhammad wants to do any thing,
he used to begin with the formula: 'BISMILLAH' - means - 'IN
THE NAME OF Allah'
But the reverse is the case, when Christians want to say or
do something, they begin with:
'IN JESUS NAME' or 'IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER, SON
AND THE HOLY GHOST.'
Therefore, the prophecy says:
"And he that will not hear his words, which he shall speak in
my name, I will be the revenger."
Simply means - he that will not hear (Muhammad's words -
who speaks in Allah's name), Allah will be the revenger -
means Allah will not forgive him - which means Allah will
punish him/her in the day of Judgement, if they die in their
denial against his words!
The above verse also confirms what Allah says in the Qur'an
68:44 & 45:
"So leave Me, [O Muhammad], with [the matter of] whoever
denies the Qur'an. We will progressively lead them [to
punishment] from where they do not know. And I will give
them time. Indeed, My plan is firm."
Are these verses of Deuteronomy 18:19 (Catholic) and of
Qur'an 68:44 & 45 not enough to frighten the unbelievers?
Even Paul in his write-ups said:
"Anyone who does not listen to him will be completely cut off
from among his people.'" ( Act 3:23 ) (N.I.V.)
"Indeed, all the prophets from Samuel on, as many as have
spoken, have foretold these days." ( Act 3:24 ) (N.I.V.)
Consequently, Allah reminds the Children of Israel about the
truth of Prophet Muhammad's advent they found in their
Scriptures. Allah says in the Qur'an:
"And believe in what I have revealed (now) confirming (the
prophecies of the Scripture) which are (already) with you,
and do not be the first to deny it, neither take a paltry price
for My Messages, and Me alone you should take as a shield
(for protection)." (Qur'an 2:41, English - Amatul Rahman
Omar)
"Do not confound the truth with falsehood, nor conceal the
truth knowingly." (Qur'an 2:42, English - Amatul Rahman
Omar)
"And be steadfast in prayer; practise regular charity; and
bow down your heads with those who bow down (in
worship)." (Qur'an 2:43, English - Yusuf Ali)
Note:
Indeed, the Bible and the Qur'an have spoken the truth of the
advent of Prophet Muhammad! And it is compulsory to listen
and follow him, as stated in the verse. If you look in the
different translations of Deuteronomy 18:19:
"The man who does not listen to my words that he speaks in
my name, shall be held answerable to me for it." - Jerusalem
Version
If anyone does not listen to my words that the prophet
speaks in my name, I myself will call him to account.” - New
International Version
But the warning is highly extreme in the Catholic Bible:
"And he that will not hear his words, which he shall speak in
my name, I will be the revenger." - Catholic Version
Does this not terrify you? That God himself would call you to
account or to take revenge against you. These words are
enough for you to fear Allah and fear the day of Judgment
that, surely would come!

All this rubbish to prove that a 7th century illiterate is in the Bible. If you have some time, open the Bible and see what it says:

Deuteronomy 18:18-22

18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
19 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.
20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.
21 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the Lord hath not spoken?
22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.


Let me give you several reasons why The God of the Bible doesn't choose men that sleep with 9 year old girls as his prophets:

1. When Muhammad began receiving revelations, his first impression of these revelations was that they were demonic - The prophets of God knows the voice of God and when He calls them. They can clearly distinguish between demons and the one true God
2. Muhammad was so traumatized by his encounter with "Gabriel" that he repeatedly tried to commit suicide by hurling himself off a cliff - The prophets of God are not suicidal, they don't try to kill themselves because God spoke to them.
3. According to Muslim sources, Muhammad once delivered a revelation from the devil (the "Satanic Verses"wink - The God of the Bible doesn't tell His prophets that it is okay to worship idols and worship Him as well. Christians don't engage in idolatry and Paganism, they believe in the one true God.
4. Muhammad claimed that he was a victim of a magic spell that gave him delusional thoughts and false beliefs - The true God prophets don't fall under magic spell or juju. We don't deal with juju in the Bible, neither does God prophets deal with juju or are influenced by juju.
5. Islam deifies Muhammad by requiring unconditional obedience to him and by requiring Muslims to talk to him during their daily prayers - Only God is to be adored, honored and worshiped. Muslims have given Mohammad the ascension of God and free of error when in truth he was a sinner
6. Mohammad said if a man sleeps with his wife and ejaculate.s 1st, the child will look like the man. If the woman ejaculate.s 1st, the child would look like the mother - Genetics and DNA are the reasons we resemble our parents and sexual pleasure has nothing to do with it.
7. The Qur'an affirms the inspiration, preservation, and authority of the Jewish and Christian scriptures (3:3-4; 5:43-47; 5:68; 6:114-115; 7:157; 10:94; 18:27; etc.). Yet our scriptures plainly declare that Muhammad is a false prophet and an antichrist. Problem?
8. In the Qur'an, Allah promises to kill Muhammad by severing his aorta if Muhammad invents a false revelation. When Muhammad died, he said he could feel his aorta being severed.
9. The central argument for the inspiration of the Qur'an is the "Argument from Literary Excellence," which is absurd on multiple levels.
10. The Qur'an claims that Alexander the Great and Aesop were devout Muslims - Una no sabi history. Alexander the great was a pagan
11. Muslims believe that the Qur'an is Allah's eternal Word. Yet Allah repeatedly changes his eternal mind about his eternal Word via abrogation
12. The Qur'an is missing at least two verses in which Allah commands grown women to breastfeed grown men in order to prevent sexual misconduct.
13. Muhammad had sex with a prepubescent nine-year-old girl named Aisha - How can Mohammad then be the one mentioned in Deuto 18:18. God prophets don't sleep with children
14. Muhammad married the divorced wife of his own adopted son (after Muhammad caused the divorce), and the Qur'an offers an absurd defense of Muhammad's actions.
15. When Muhammad's wives asked why he was giving special privileges to Aisha, he justified his actions by saying that he received revelations while wearing Aisha's dress! - God condemns men that wear women clothing and women that wear men clothing.


If you want more reasons why Mohammad is not mentioned or inferred in the Bible and why he is not a prophet to Christians or Jews; I will be happy to oblige your ignorance and stupidi.ty

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Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by malvisguy212: 8:23am On Sep 03, 2014
cloudstar:

All this rubbish to prove that a 7th century illiterate is in the Bible. If you have some time, open the Bible and see what it says:

Deuteronomy 18:18-22

18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
19 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.
20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.
21 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the Lord hath not spoken?
22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.


Let me give you several reasons why The God of the Bible doesn't choose men that sleep with 9 year old girls as his prophets:

1. When Muhammad began receiving revelations, his first impression of these revelations was that they were demonic - The prophets of God knows the voice of God and when He calls them. They can clearly distinguish between demons and the one true God
2. Muhammad was so traumatized by his encounter with "Gabriel" that he repeatedly tried to commit suicide by hurling himself off a cliff - The prophets of God are not suicidal, they don't try to kill themselves because God spoke to them.
3. According to Muslim sources, Muhammad once delivered a revelation from the devil (the "Satanic Verses"wink - The God of the Bible doesn't tell His prophets that it is okay to worship idols and worship Him as well. Christians don't engage in idolatry and Paganism, they believe in the one true God.
4. Muhammad claimed that he was a victim of a magic spell that gave him delusional thoughts and false beliefs - The true God prophets don't fall under magic spell or juju. We don't deal with juju in the Bible, neither does God prophets deal with juju or are influenced by juju.
5. Islam deifies Muhammad by requiring unconditional obedience to him and by requiring Muslims to talk to him during their daily prayers - Only God is to be adored, honored and worshiped. Muslims have given Mohammad the ascension of God and free of error when in truth he was a sinner
6. Mohammad said if a man sleeps with his wife and ejaculate.s 1st, the child will look like the man. If the woman ejaculate.s 1st, the child would look like the mother - Genetics and DNA are the reasons we resemble our parents and sexual pleasure has nothing to do with it.
7. The Qur'an affirms the inspiration, preservation, and authority of the Jewish and Christian scriptures (3:3-4; 5:43-47; 5:68; 6:114-115; 7:157; 10:94; 18:27; etc.). Yet our scriptures plainly declare that Muhammad is a false prophet and an antichrist. Problem?
8. In the Qur'an, Allah promises to kill Muhammad by severing his aorta if Muhammad invents a false revelation. When Muhammad died, he said he could feel his aorta being severed.
9. The central argument for the inspiration of the Qur'an is the "Argument from Literary Excellence," which is absurd on multiple levels.
10. The Qur'an claims that Alexander the Great and Aesop were devout Muslims - Una no sabi history. Alexander the great was a pagan
11. Muslims believe that the Qur'an is Allah's eternal Word. Yet Allah repeatedly changes his eternal mind about his eternal Word via abrogation
12. The Qur'an is missing at least two verses in which Allah commands grown women to breastfeed grown men in order to prevent sexual misconduct.
13. Muhammad had sex with a prepubescent nine-year-old girl named Aisha - How can Mohammad then be the one mentioned in Deuto 18:18. God prophets don't sleep with children
14. Muhammad married the divorced wife of his own adopted son (after Muhammad caused the divorce), and the Qur'an offers an absurd defense of Muhammad's actions.
15. When Muhammad's wives asked why he was giving special privileges to Aisha, he justified his actions by saying that he received revelations while wearing Aisha's dress! - God condemns men that wear women clothing and women that wear men clothing.


If you want more reasons why Mohammad is not mentioned or inferred in the Bible and why he is not a prophet to Christians or Jews; I will be happy to oblige your ignorance and stupidi.ty
Bros. God bless you.permit me to copy and paste it.
Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by Emusan(m): 8:53am On Sep 03, 2014
You keep dodging my questions?

Abdulsalam20: PLEASE POST THE EVIDENCE FOR ME JUST A SINGLE CONTRADICTION AND WHERE QURAN CONTRADICT SCIENCE

I don't need to do that for you, Google is your friend.

IF JESUS SAY I AM THE WAY AND THE TRUTH WHOEVER FOLLOW ME SHALL NOT GO ASTRAY HE IS RIGHT BUT U MIS INTERPRET HIM

Truly I misinterpreted Him but it's you who fully understood Him talking about Muhammad. SMH

WHAT HE IS SAYING IS THAT IF U FOLLOW HIS TEACHING U WILL NOT GO ASTRAY

You're right! and you can compare His teaching with that of your saw to see which one is the TRUTH.

WHEN HE TALKS ABOUT MUHAMMAD U DENY IT........WOO UNTO U

So how did you know Jesus talk about your saw?
Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 4:33pm On Sep 03, 2014
cloudstar:

All this rubbish to prove that a 7th century illiterate is in the Bible. If you have some time, open the Bible and see what it says:

Deuteronomy 18:18-22

18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
19 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.
20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.
21 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the Lord hath not spoken?
22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.


Let me give you several reasons why The God of the Bible doesn't choose men that sleep with 9 year old girls as his prophets:

1. When Muhammad began receiving revelations, his first impression of these revelations was that they were demonic - The prophets of God knows the voice of God and when He calls them. They can clearly distinguish between demons and the one true God
2. Muhammad was so traumatized by his encounter with "Gabriel" that he repeatedly tried to commit suicide by hurling himself off a cliff - The prophets of God are not suicidal, they don't try to kill themselves because God spoke to them.
3. According to Muslim sources, Muhammad once delivered a revelation from the devil (the "Satanic Verses"wink - The God of the Bible doesn't tell His prophets that it is okay to worship idols and worship Him as well. Christians don't engage in idolatry and Paganism, they believe in the one true God.
4. Muhammad claimed that he was a victim of a magic spell that gave him delusional thoughts and false beliefs - The true God prophets don't fall under magic spell or juju. We don't deal with juju in the Bible, neither does God prophets deal with juju or are influenced by juju.
5. Islam deifies Muhammad by requiring unconditional obedience to him and by requiring Muslims to talk to him during their daily prayers - Only God is to be adored, honored and worshiped. Muslims have given Mohammad the ascension of God and free of error when in truth he was a sinner
6. Mohammad said if a man sleeps with his wife and ejaculate.s 1st, the child will look like the man. If the woman ejaculate.s 1st, the child would look like the mother - Genetics and DNA are the reasons we resemble our parents and sexual pleasure has nothing to do with it.
7. The Qur'an affirms the inspiration, preservation, and authority of the Jewish and Christian scriptures (3:3-4; 5:43-47; 5:68; 6:114-115; 7:157; 10:94; 18:27; etc.). Yet our scriptures plainly declare that Muhammad is a false prophet and an antichrist. Problem?
8. In the Qur'an, Allah promises to kill Muhammad by severing his aorta if Muhammad invents a false revelation. When Muhammad died, he said he could feel his aorta being severed.
9. The central argument for the inspiration of the Qur'an is the "Argument from Literary Excellence," which is absurd on multiple levels.
10. The Qur'an claims that Alexander the Great and Aesop were devout Muslims - Una no sabi history. Alexander the great was a pagan
11. Muslims believe that the Qur'an is Allah's eternal Word. Yet Allah repeatedly changes his eternal mind about his eternal Word via abrogation
12. The Qur'an is missing at least two verses in which Allah commands grown women to breastfeed grown men in order to prevent sexual misconduct.
13. Muhammad had sex with a prepubescent nine-year-old girl named Aisha - How can Mohammad then be the one mentioned in Deuto 18:18. God prophets don't sleep with children
14. Muhammad married the divorced wife of his own adopted son (after Muhammad caused the divorce), and the Qur'an offers an absurd defense of Muhammad's actions.
15. When Muhammad's wives asked why he was giving special privileges to Aisha, he justified his actions by saying that he received revelations while wearing Aisha's dress! - God condemns men that wear women clothing and women that wear men clothing.


If you want more reasons why Mohammad is not mentioned or inferred in the Bible and why he is not a prophet to Christians or Jews; I will be happy to oblige your ignorance and stupidi.ty
FOOL AS I HAVE LWAYS SAID ALL THIS U SAID IS RUBBISH NO QURAN OR HADITH TO SUPPORT YOUR CLAIM JUST LIKE I DID U JUST COPIED IT FROM CHRISTIAN WEBSITE WHERE IS UR REFERENCE ALL THIS U POSTED PLEASE ARE U AN UNDERGRADUATE OR A GRADUATE HOW WILL/DID U COPE WITH UR PROJECT.....AFTER A VISIBLE EVIDENCE PROVIDED TO U PLS WHO IS THE DEUTRONOMY VERSE REFERRING TO U BETTER SAY THE TRUTH AND BE FREE
cloudstar:

All this rubbish to prove that a 7th century illiterate is in the Bible. If you have some time, open the Bible and see what it says:

Deuteronomy 18:18-22

18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
19 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.
20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.
21 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the Lord hath not spoken?
22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.


Let me give you several reasons why The God of the Bible doesn't choose men that sleep with 9 year old girls as his prophets:

[color=#990000]1. When Muhammad began receiving revelations, his first impression of these revelations was that they were demonic - The prophets of God knows the voice of God and when He calls them. They can clearly distinguish between demons and the one true God
2. Muhammad was so traumatized by his encounter with "Gabriel" that he repeatedly tried to commit suicide by hurling himself off a cliff - The prophets of God are not suicidal, they don't try to kill themselves because God spoke to them.
3. According to Muslim sources, Muhammad once delivered a revelation from the devil (the "Satanic Verses"wink - The God of the Bible doesn't tell His prophets that it is okay to worship idols and worship Him as well. Christians don't engage in idolatry and Paganism, they believe in the one true God.
4. Muhammad claimed that he was a victim of a magic spell that gave him delusional thoughts and false beliefs - The true God prophets don't fall under magic spell or juju. We don't deal with juju in the Bible, neither does God prophets deal with juju or are influenced by juju.
5. Islam deifies Muhammad by requiring unconditional obedience to him and by requiring Muslims to talk to him during their daily prayers - Only God is to be adored, honored and worshiped. Muslims have given Mohammad the ascension of God and free of error when in truth he was a sinner
6. Mohammad said if a man sleeps with his wife and ejaculate.s 1st, the child will look like the man. If the woman ejaculate.s 1st, the child would look like the mother - Genetics and DNA are the reasons we resemble our parents and sexual pleasure has nothing to do with it.
7. The Qur'an affirms the inspiration, preservation, and authority of the Jewish and Christian scriptures (3:3-4; 5:43-47; 5:68; 6:114-115; 7:157; 10:94; 18:27; etc.). Yet our scriptures plainly declare that Muhammad is a false prophet and an antichrist. Problem?
8. In the Qur'an, Allah promises to kill Muhammad by severing his aorta if Muhammad invents a false revelation. When Muhammad died, he said he could feel his aorta being severed.
9. The central argument for the inspiration of the Qur'an is the "Argument from Literary Excellence," which is absurd on multiple levels.
10. The Qur'an claims that Alexander the Great and Aesop were devout Muslims - Una no sabi history. Alexander the great was a pagan
11. Muslims believe that the Qur'an is Allah's eternal Word. Yet Allah repeatedly changes his eternal mind about his eternal Word via abrogation
12. The Qur'an is missing at least two verses in which Allah commands grown women to breastfeed grown men in order to prevent sexual misconduct.
13. Muhammad had sex with a prepubescent nine-year-old girl named Aisha - How can Mohammad then be the one mentioned in Deuto 18:18. God prophets don't sleep with children
14. Muhammad married the divorced wife of his own adopted son (after Muhammad caused the divorce), and the Qur'an offers an absurd defense of Muhammad's actions.
15. When Muhammad's wives asked why he was giving special privileges to Aisha, he justified his actions by saying that he received revelations while wearing Aisha's dress! - God condemns men that wear women clothing and women that wear men clothing.

If you want more reasons why Mohammad is not mentioned or inferred in the Bible and why he is not a prophet to Christians or Jews; I will be happy to oblige your ignorance and stupidi.ty
FOOL AS I HAVE LWAYS SAID ALL THIS U SAID IS RUBBISH NO QURAN OR HADITH TO SUPPORT YOUR CLAIM JUST LIKE I DID U JUST COPIED IT FROM CHRISTIAN WEBSITE WHERE IS UR REFERENCE ALL THIS U POSTED PLEASE ARE U AN UNDERGRADUATE OR A GRADUATE HOW WILL/DID U COPE WITH UR PROJECT.....AFTER A VISIBLE EVIDENCE PROVIDED TO U PLS WHO IS THE DEUTRONOMY VERSE REFERRING TO U BETTER SAY THE TRUTH AND BE FREE[/color]
cloudstar:

All this rubbish to prove that a 7th century illiterate is in the Bible. If you have some time, open the Bible and see what it says:

Deuteronomy 18:18-22

18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
19 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.
20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.
21 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the Lord hath not spoken?
22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.


Let me give you several reasons why The God of the Bible doesn't choose men that sleep with 9 year old girls as his prophets:

1. When Muhammad began receiving revelations, his first impression of these revelations was that they were demonic - The prophets of God knows the voice of God and when He calls them. They can clearly distinguish between demons and the one true God
2. Muhammad was so traumatized by his encounter with "Gabriel" that he repeatedly tried to commit suicide by hurling himself off a cliff - The prophets of God are not suicidal, they don't try to kill themselves because God spoke to them.
3. According to Muslim sources, Muhammad once delivered a revelation from the devil (the "Satanic Verses"wink - The God of the Bible doesn't tell His prophets that it is okay to worship idols and worship Him as well. Christians don't engage in idolatry and Paganism, they believe in the one true God.
4. Muhammad claimed that he was a victim of a magic spell that gave him delusional thoughts and false beliefs - The true God prophets don't fall under magic spell or juju. We don't deal with juju in the Bible, neither does God prophets deal with juju or are influenced by juju.
5. Islam deifies Muhammad by requiring unconditional obedience to him and by requiring Muslims to talk to him during their daily prayers - Only God is to be adored, honored and worshiped. Muslims have given Mohammad the ascension of God and free of error when in truth he was a sinner
6. Mohammad said if a man sleeps with his wife and ejaculate.s 1st, the child will look like the man. If the woman ejaculate.s 1st, the child would look like the mother - Genetics and DNA are the reasons we resemble our parents and sexual pleasure has nothing to do with it.
7. The Qur'an affirms the inspiration, preservation, and authority of the Jewish and Christian scriptures (3:3-4; 5:43-47; 5:68; 6:114-115; 7:157; 10:94; 18:27; etc.). Yet our scriptures plainly declare that Muhammad is a false prophet and an antichrist. Problem?
8. In the Qur'an, Allah promises to kill Muhammad by severing his aorta if Muhammad invents a false revelation. When Muhammad died, he said he could feel his aorta being severed.
9. The central argument for the inspiration of the Qur'an is the "Argument from Literary Excellence," which is absurd on multiple levels.
10. The Qur'an claims that Alexander the Great and Aesop were devout Muslims - Una no sabi history. Alexander the great was a pagan
11. Muslims believe that the Qur'an is Allah's eternal Word. Yet Allah repeatedly changes his eternal mind about his eternal Word via abrogation
12. The Qur'an is missing at least two verses in which Allah commands grown women to breastfeed grown men in order to prevent sexual misconduct.
13. Muhammad had sex with a prepubescent nine-year-old girl named Aisha - How can Mohammad then be the one mentioned in Deuto 18:18. God prophets don't sleep with children
14. Muhammad married the divorced wife of his own adopted son (after Muhammad caused the divorce), and the Qur'an offers an absurd defense of Muhammad's actions.
15. When Muhammad's wives asked why he was giving special privileges to Aisha, he justified his actions by saying that he received revelations while wearing Aisha's dress! - God condemns men that wear women clothing and women that wear men clothing.


If you want more reasons why Mohammad is not mentioned or inferred in the Bible and why he is not a prophet to Christians or Jews; I will be happy to oblige your ignorance and stupidi.ty
FOOL AS I HAVE ALWAYS SAID ALL THIS U SAID IS RUBBISH NO QURAN OR HADITH TO SUPPORT YOUR CLAIM JUST LIKE I A WAYS DID......... U JUST COPIED IT FROM CHRISTIAN WEBSITE WHERE IS UR REFERENCE ALL THIS U POSTED PLEASE ARE U AN UNDERGRADUATE OR A GRADUATE HOW WILL/DID U COPE WITH UR PROJECT.....AFTER A VISIBLE EVIDENCE PROVIDED TO U PLS WHO IS THE DEUTRONOMY VERSE REFERRING TO U BETTER SAY THE TRUTH AND BE FREE PLEASE QUOTE REFERENCE...BECAUSE ALL THIS U POSTED ARE FALACY
Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 5:03pm On Sep 03, 2014
Muhammad's first revelation
According to Islam , Muhammad's first revelation was the
event in which Muhammad was visited by the Arch-angel
Gabriel who revealed to him a verse from the Quran . The
event took place in a cave called Hira , located on the
mountain called Jabal an-Nour, near Mecca.
According to biographies of Muhammad, while on retreat in
a mountain cave (cave of Hira) near Mecca, the Arch-angel
Gabriel appears to him and commands him to recite the first
lines of chapter 96 of the Quran. Muhammad's experience is
mentioned in the Quran 53:4-9: [1]
Before the revelation
Muhammad was born and raised in Mecca. When He was
nearly 40, he used to spend many hours alone in prayer and
speculating over the aspects of creation. [2] He was
concerned with the social unrest , injustice, widespread
discrimination (particularly against women ), fighting among
tribes and abuse of tribal authorities prevalent in pre-
Islamic Arabia .[3] The moral degeneration of his fellow
people, and his own quest for a true religion further lent fuel
to this, with the result that he now began to withdraw
periodically to a cave named Mount Hira , three miles north
of Mecca, for contemplation and reflection. [4] Islamic
tradition holds that Muhammad during this period began to
have dreams replete with spiritual significance which were
fulfilled according to their true import; and this was the
commencement of his divine revelation.[5][2] This created
inclination in him to engage himself in solitary worshipping.
[6]
The first revelation
According to Islamic tradition, during one such occasion
while he was in contemplation, the archangel Gabriel
appeared before him in the year 610 CE and said, ‘Recite’,
upon which he replied, ‘I am unable to recite’. Thereupon the
angel caught hold of him and embraced him heavily. This
happened two more time after which the angel commanded
Muhammad to recite the following verses : [7][8][9]
After the revelation
Perplexed by this new experience, Muhammad made his
way to home where he was consoled by his wife Khadijah,
who also took him to her Ebionite cousin Waraqah ibn
Nawfal. Waraqah was familiar with Jewish and Christian
scriptures. Islamic tradition holds that Waraqah, upon
hearing the description, testified to Muhammad's
prophethood, [2][11] and convinced Muhammad that the
revelation was from God. [12] Waraqah said: "O my nephew!
What did you see?" When Muhammad told him what had
happened to him, Waraqah replied: "This is Namus
(meaning Gabriel) that Allah sent to Moses. I wish I were
younger. I wish I could live up to the time when your people
would turn you out." Muhammad asked: "Will they drive me
out?" Waraqah answered in the affirmative and said:
"Anyone who came with something similar to what you have
brought was treated with hostility; and if I should be alive
until that day, then I would support you strongly." A few
days later Waraqah died. [13]
The initial revelation was followed by a pause and a second
encounter with Gabriel when Muhammad heard a voice
from the sky and saw the same angel "sitting between the
sky and the earth" and the revelations resumed with the first
verses of chapter 74.
At-Tabari and Ibn Hisham reported that Muhammad left the
cave of Hira after being surprised by the revelation, but later
on, returned to the cave and continued his solitude, though
subsequently he returned to Mecca . Tabari and Ibn Ishaq
write that Muhammad told Zubayr:[13]
"when I was midway on the mountain, I heard a voice
from heaven saying "O Muhammad! you are the apostle
of Allah and I am Gabriel." I raised my head towards
heaven to see who was speaking, and Gabriel in the
form of a man with feet astride the horizon, saying, "O
Muhammad! you are the apostle of Allah and I am
Gabriel." I stood gazing at him moving neither forward
nor backward, then I began to turn my face away from
him, but towards whatever region of the sky I looked, I
saw him as before."
There is doubt about the period of time between
Muhammad's first and second experiences of revelation. Ibn
Ishaq writes that three years elapsed from the time that
Muhammad received the first revelation until he started to
preach publicly. Bukhari takes chapter 74 as the second
revelation however chapter 68 has strong claims to be the
second revelation.[14].........SOURCE FROM AN ENCYCLOPEDIA WEBSITE; www.en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad's_first_revelation
Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by Emusan(m): 8:17pm On Sep 03, 2014
Abdulsalam20: ALL THIS U SAID IS RUBBISH NO QURAN OR HADITH TO SUPPORT YOUR CLAIM JUST LIKE I A WAYS DID

When an evidence is being provided now you'll begin to sing another song.

U JUST COPIED IT FROM CHRISTIAN WEBSITE WHERE IS UR REFERENCE

Imaging Christian website, so all what your OP say are they from Christian website or not JAMAL BADAWI an Islamic work?

ALL THIS U POSTED PLEASE ARE U AN UNDERGRADUATE OR A GRADUATE HOW WILL/DID U COPE WITH UR PROJECT

What does this has to do with issue at hand?

AFTER A VISIBLE EVIDENCE PROVIDED TO U PLS WHO IS THE DEUTRONOMY VERSE REFERRING TO

I quote you purposely because of this particular statement, is like you want to know the truth which most biased Muslim scholars always hide from their readers.

Firstly, the first thing to know is that Bible always gives the accurate and complete view within itself without throwing its reader into total darkness LIKE QUR'AN always does!

Secondly, Bible itself answers your question which Muslim scholars have hidden from people like you BUT ONLY if you'll not reject it as they do.

Lastly, I'll give detail of it begin from Jesus Himself.
1) Jesus Himself made the statement about Moses wrote prophecy about Him..."For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed ME: for he(Moses) wrote of ME." John 5:46
2) Philip is one of the disciples of Jesus Christ but before he became Jesus' disciple he said this to Nathanel ..."Philip findeth Nathaniel, and saith unto him, we have found him, of whom MOSES in the law, and the PROPHETS, did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph." John 1:45

3) Peter is one of the companions of Jesus Christ and he's the one who even QUOTE THE SAME Deuteronomy verbatim...."For MOSES truly said unto the fathers, A Prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your BRETHREN, like unto me;...Acts 3:22-23

You can see that the answer have a strong Biblical support than the twisted one done by Muslim scholars in propagating their false religion.
NOTE: The fulfilment of Deuteronomy wasn't a cook up by Christian theologians BUT a plain statement within the Bible itself.


U BETTER SAY THE TRUTH AND BE FREE

Do you know the TRUTH?

PLEASE QUOTE REFERENCE...BECAUSE ALL THIS U POSTED ARE FALACY

Many references are online, but you're already discriminating by saying "Christian website" so if someone gave it, it will just be a waste of time.
Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by true2god: 9:11pm On Sep 03, 2014
Emusan:
The next thing Muslim will do now is to claim all the prophecies in the Bible for saw or what did you people call him?
I thought his other name is p.b.u.h, i never knew he also answer s.a.w. The Mo' guy has many monikers.
Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by true2god: 9:14pm On Sep 03, 2014
malvisguy212: the more they use the bible to look for muhammad the more they make allah weaker.
Funny. Muslims keep fooling themselves looking for Mohd in the bible in order to validate his prophethood at all cost.
Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 9:21pm On Sep 03, 2014
Emusan: When an evidence is being provided now you'll begin to sing another song. Imaging Christian website, so all what your OP say are they from Christian website or not JAMAL BADAWI an Islamic work? What does this has to do with issue at hand? I quote you purposely because of this particular statement, is like you want to know the truth which most biased Muslim scholars always hide from their readers. Firstly, the first thing to know is that Bible always gives the accurate and complete view within itself without throwing its reader into total darkness LIKE QUR'AN always does! Secondly, Bible itself answers your question which Muslim scholars have hidden from people like you BUT ONLY if you'll not reject it as they do. Lastly, I'll give detail of it begin from Jesus Himself. 1) Jesus Himself made the statement about Moses wrote prophecy about Him..."For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed ME: for he(Moses) wrote of ME." John 5:46 2) Philip is one of the disciples of Jesus Christ but before he became Jesus' disciple he said this to Nathanel ..."Philip findeth Nathaniel, and saith unto him, we have found him, of whom MOSES in the law, and the PROPHETS, did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph." John 1:45 3) Peter is one of the companions of Jesus Christ and he's the one who even QUOTE THE SAME Deuteronomy verbatim...."For MOSES truly said unto the fathers, A Prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your BRETHREN, like unto me;...Acts 3:22-23 You can see that the answer have a strong Biblical support than the twisted one done by Muslim scholars in propagating their false religion. NOTE: The fulfilment of Deuteronomy wasn't a cook up by Christian theologians BUT a plain statement within the Bible itself. Do you know the TRUTH? Many references are online, but you're already discriminating by saying "Christian website" so if someone gave it, it will just be a waste of time.
grin THAT IS WHY I SAID THE BILE IS NO MORE HOLY EXCEPT SOME FEW PART OF IT BT U CHRISTIAN SAID JESUS IS SON OF GOD AND GOD THAT HE IS NOT A PROPHET SO HOW COME U CALL HIM A PROPHET NOW AND WHO TELL U WE DID NOT BELIEVE IN JESUS JESUS IS A PROPHET BUT U PEOPLE CAL HIM GOD JESUS IS NOT DEAD U SAID HE IS DEAD(watch out for my next topic)....... i even follow jesus more than u think jesus condemn payment of interesr when we try to establish islamic banking with interest free loan CAN OPPOSED IT reference l- Imran {3:130} “O ye who believed! Devour not usury, doubling and quadrupling (the sum lent). Observe your duty to Allah, that ye may be successful.” Another message is repeated in: Surah, Al-Baqara {2:188} “And eat not up your property among yourselves in vanity, nor seek by it to gain the hearing of the judges that ye may knowingly devour a portion of the property of others wrongfully.” What does the Christian book has to say concerning Interest and Bribery? Is it really there in the Bible? Yes! Why is C.A.N against it? I don’t know……….. Then, they are the Biggest Anti-Christ that I have ever seen………….. Exodus 23:8 "And thou shalt take no bribe: for a bribe blindeth them that have sight, and ruins the cause of those who are the righteous.” Warning against Bribery! What about Interest? Let’s examine this verse again: Exodus 22:25 “If thou lend money to any of my people with thee that is poor, thou shalt not be to him as a creditor; neither shall ye lay upon him interest.” Similar message is also repeated in the Book of Deuteronomy: Deuteronomy 23:19 "Thou shalt not lend upon interest to thy brother; interest of money, interest of victuals, interest of anything that is lent upon interest.” THE BIBLE SAID U SHOULD COVER UR HEAD U OPPOSE IT( 1 Corinthians 11:5, says that “Every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonours her head, for that is one and the same as if her head were shaved) WHEN AREGBESHOLA RAISED THE ISSUE OF COVERING HEAD IN OSUN CAN OPPOSE IT WHAT AN ANTI CHRIST i know u will said it is only when they want topray pls dont children pray in school on assembly ground.....dont they pray before eating?......all christians nowadays are anti christ THE BIBLE SAID WOMEN SHOULD NOT TALK IN CHURCH U PEOPLE WENT TO ORGANISE CHOIR EVEN NOW WOMEN ARE NOW PASTORS( - I Corinthians 14:34-35: Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.) JESUS PRAY U NEVER DID THAT INSTEAD U CRITICISE MUSLIMS FOR BOWING THEIR HEAD( DISCRIPTION OF SOLAT IN THE BIBLE "Ezra the scribe stood on a high wooden platform(ready for solat) that had been made for the occasion. To his right stood Mattithiah, Shema, Anaiah, Uriah, Hilkiah, and Maaseiah. To his left stood Pedaiah, Mishael, Malkijah, Hashum, Hashbaddanah, Zechariah, and Meshullam." (Nehemiah 8:4)."And Ezra opened the book in the sight of all the people; (for he was above all the peoplewink (imam) and when he opened it, all the people stood up:" (Nehemiah 8:5)."Then Ezra praised the LORD(takbiratul iram), the great God, and all the people chanted, "Amen! Amen!" as they lifted their hands. Then they bowed down (rukuh) and worshiped the LORD with their faces to the ground(sujud)." (Nehemiah 8:6).......DID U DO THIS? WHAT AN ANTICHRIST.....EVEN THOUGH U PEOPLE TAMPER THE BIBLE THE TRUTH WILL SHOW IT SELF

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Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by true2god: 9:34pm On Sep 03, 2014
malvisguy212: Bros. God bless you.permit me to copy and paste it.
On behalf of cloudstar, permission granted. No copyright violated for the copy and paste, as long as it assist unmask islamic lies and the sins of the gangster, mohammed (spit be upon him).
Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by cloudstar: 11:46pm On Sep 03, 2014
malvisguy212: Bros. God bless you.permit me to copy and paste it.

Permission granted!
Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by cloudstar: 11:53pm On Sep 03, 2014
Abdulsalam20: FOOL AS I HAVE LWAYS SAID ALL THIS U SAID IS RUBBISH NO QURAN OR HADITH TO SUPPORT YOUR CLAIM JUST LIKE I DID U JUST COPIED IT FROM CHRISTIAN WEBSITE WHERE IS UR REFERENCE ALL THIS U POSTED PLEASE ARE U AN UNDERGRADUATE OR A GRADUATE HOW WILL/DID U COPE WITH UR PROJECT.....AFTER A VISIBLE EVIDENCE PROVIDED TO U PLS WHO IS THE DEUTRONOMY VERSE REFERRING TO U BETTER SAY THE TRUTH AND BE FREE[color=#006600]

Bros, abeg - review the topics that I have been engaged in with your likes. When you are done, come back again and try to debate me. I debate objective individuals. If it's the Hadith you want us to review and study; I can provide authentic narrations from Hadiths such as Al-Bukhari which is accepted by nearly all schools of Islamic jurisprudence.

Here is the Hadith proving that Mohammad slept with Aisha when she was 9:

Narrated Hisham's father:
Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married 'Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consummated that marriage when she was nine years old. (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 236)

Narrated 'Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death). (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64; see also Numbers 65 and 88)

It is also recorded and narrated from Sunan Abu Dawud, another authoritative Hadith

Aisha said: The Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) married me when I was seven years old. The narrator Sulaiman said: Or six years. He had intercourse with me when I was nine years old. (Sunan Abu Dawud, Number 2116)

So, please read your Islamic history before you come here and make yourself look silly. You are already good at that grin. If you want to engage me in an objective debate, I will be more than happy to produce evidence only from Islamic sources for your reference
Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by malvisguy212: 7:27am On Sep 04, 2014
Cloudstar and Tru2god. Thank. God bless you guys.
Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 9:23am On Sep 04, 2014
cloudstar:

Bros, abeg - review the topics that I have been engaged in with your likes. When you are done, come back again and try to debate me. I debate objective individuals. If it's the Hadith you want us to review and study; I can provide authentic narrations from Hadiths such as Al-Bukhari which is accepted by nearly all schools of Islamic jurisprudence.

Here is the Hadith proving that Mohammad slept with Aisha when she was 9:

Narrated Hisham's father:
Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married 'Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consummated that marriage when she was nine years old. (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 236)

Narrated 'Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death). (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64; see also Numbers 65 and 88)

It is also recorded and narrated from Sunan Abu Dawud, another authoritative Hadith

Aisha said: The Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) married me when I was seven years old. The narrator Sulaiman said: Or six years. He had intercourse with me when I was nine years old. (Sunan Abu Dawud, Number 2116)

So, please read your Islamic history before you come here and make yourself look silly. You are already good at that grin. If you want to engage me in an objective debate, I will be more than happy to produce evidence only from Islamic sources for your reference
grin U TRIED TO DODGE THE ALLEGDED ANTI CHRIST THAT YOU ARE WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT MARRIAGE A LADY IS DEEM FIT FOR MARRIAGE WHEN SHE ATTAIN PUBERTY EVEN THIS HAS BEEN WIDELY PRACTICED IN MANY COUNTRIES
NOW I WILL EXPLAIN THE FACT FOR U IN DETAIL BELOW

1-It was a divine inspiration:
Before describing the rationale behind this married relation,
let it be known that the Holy Prophet (peace be upon him)
married Sayyida Aisha not of his own desire rather it was a
Divine inspiration. Read the following Hadith;
Narrated ‘Aisha:
That the Prophet said to her, “You have been shown to me
twice in my dream. I saw you pictured on a piece of silk
and some-one said (to me). ‘This is your wife.’ When I
uncovered the picture, I saw that it was yours. I said, ‘If
this is from Allah, it will be done.” {Bukhari :: Volume 5 ::
Book 58 :: Hadith 235}
2-It was not out of his physical desires:
The Holy Prophet (Peace be upon him) did not marry
Sayyidah Aisha out of his physical desires. One need to
note that for first 54 years of his life he had only one wife.
His only wife till 50th year of his life was Sayyida Khadija.
He spent his entire youth with her and she was a two time
widowed woman, 15 years elder to him. For next four years
his only wife was Sayyidah Sa’uda.
3-Age of Marriage in Old Ages:
One must first understand that 1400 years ago was very
different than now, times have changed and so have
humans. 1400 years ago it was something very common to
marry young girls, in fact they were not considered young
girls, and rather they were considered young women back
then. It is a historic fact that girls from the ages of 9 to 14
were being married in Europe, Asia, and Africa, in fact even
in the United States girls at the age of 10 were also being
married just more than a century ago.
Yet with these facts no historian claims that all these
people were sick perverts, historians would call anyone
who made such a claim to be arrogant and very stupid
who has no grasp or understanding of history.
Even in Indo-Pak Sub-Continent girls used to be married at
12-13 even 50-60 years ago. And those ‘girls’ infact raised
much better families. There were less family problems then.
A simple analyses of the divorce rate then and know would
certainly make it clear that maturity level earlier used to be
different i.e. people used to come of age rather quickly.
4-Child Brides in Byzantine Empire:
http://www.roman-emperors.org/aggiefran.htm
Visit this link to see how common were the child brides in
the Byzantine Empire.This article clearly states;”Child
brides, whether Byzantines or foreign princesses, were the
norm rather than the exception, especially from the late
twelfth century”.
5-The Pagans of the Prophet’s time:
The fact that it was a completely acceptable thing can also
be seen from the response of the pagans at that time. No
Muslim or even pagan objected to the marriage because it
was widely practiced. And even until today in 3rd world
countries (Muslims and non-Muslims), little girls as young
as 9 or 10 do get married. Anyway, the reason no one
objected was to the Prophet’s marriage was:1-People used
to have very short life-spans in Arabia. They used to live
between 40 to 60 years maximum. So it was only normal
and natural for girls to be married off at ages 9 or 10 or
similar.2-Marriage for young girls was widely practiced
among Arabs back then, and even today in many non-
Muslim and Muslim countries
6-Engagement with Jubair bin Mutim:
It ought also be noted that Sayyidah Aisha ( RA) was
engaged to Jubayr son of Mut’im before Prophet
Muhammed (Peace be upon him. This indicates the age of
marriage and engagement in Prophet’s time. However, the
engagement was later nullified by Jubayr’s parents due to
Abu Bakr (RA) embracing Islam.Doesn’t this indicate there
was nothing bad in marrying a 9 year girl at that time?She
must have been even younger when she was engaged to
Jubair
7-Sayyidah Aisha was fit for marriage:
Furthermore as to the Holy Prophet’s marriage with
Sayyidah Aisha, something people will notice is that the
completion of the marriage was done when Sayyidah Aisha
was 9 years old, not when she was 6, and there is a reason
for that. The reason why this happened is because
Sayyidah Aisha had been through puberty by the age of 9,
and in Islam a female who under-goes puberty is
considered a lady and is fit for marriage.
If we read the hadiths, we find that right before Sayyidah
Aisha got married off to the Holy Prophet that she was sick
and not feeling too well:
Narrated Sayyidah Aisha:
The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years).
We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-
Harith bin Khazraj then I got ill and my hair fell down.
Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman,
came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of
my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not
knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by
the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I
was breathless then, and when my breathing became all
right, she took some water and rubbed my face and head
with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the
house I saw some Ansari women who said, “Best wishes
and Allah’s Blessing and a good luck.” Then she entrusted
me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage).
Unexpectedly Allah’s Apostle came to me in the forenoon
and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I
was a girl of nine years of age.” {Sahih Bukhari Volume 5,
Book 58, Number 234}
So as we can see, Sayyidah Aisha got ill and her body was
going through some changes, indicating that she was going
through her puberty.
8-Sayyida Aisha never showed her displeasure:
Another striking thing to observe is that among hundreds of
her narrations there is not even a single one showing her
displeasure about this marriage. Hence, she had no
problem with this relation. Infect it is manifest from several
traditions that she loved the Holy Prophet (Peace be upon
him) too much and even felt some sort of jealousy when
she found others around him. Does this not prove that she
was extremely happy about this marriage? So, when she
herself had no problem at all then what’s the matter of
concern for others?
9-A 9-year old Thai girl gave birth:
A 9 old girl can become a mother. If you don’t believe me
then see here is the proof;
The news item is from the New Straits Times, 10/3/2001.
In our world today, we still have people who marry very
young girls. Why should we object to someone who
married a 9-year old girl 1400 years ago, when we still
practice it today? The girl above even gave birth at the age
of 9!
10-It was absolutely legal:
Prophet Muhammad’s marriage with Aisha was 100% legal
and acceptable by all laws and Divine Religions. It is
important to know that girls during the Biblical and Islamic
days used to be married off at young ages when they either
had their first periods, or their breasts start showing off. In
other words, when they turn into “women”, then they get
married off. It was quite different for men on the other
hand, because physical power and the ability of living an
independent life had always been and will always be a
mandatory requirement for men to have in life. So men
waited much longer than women in terms of getting
married. The guy had to develop both his body and mind
before he was ready for marriage. That is why you see
girls as young as 9 or 10 were married to men as old as
30 or even older. The culture back then and in many of the
world countries today (NON-MUSLIM ONES TOO) is quite
different than what you live in today.And there is no divine
law which is broken in marrying a girl of nine at any costs.
11-Her parents never objected:
Sayyidah Aisha’s mother and the Muslim women back
then were O.K with her marriage. It was part of the Arab
custom and still is in many of the Muslim and non-Muslim
countries today for girls to marry at a very young age.
When a girl’s body starts showing up (her breasts and her
height and physical size), then she would be ready for
marriage
The only reason why Sayyidah Aisha’s father, Abu Baker Al
Sidique, broke her engagement with Jober is because he
was a non-Muslim. Later, a woman named Kholeah Bint
Hakeem suggested for Prophet Muhammad peace be upon
him to marry Sayyidah Aisha, because the Prophet and
Abu Baker became best friends. Prophet Muhammad
(peace be upon him) engaged Sayyidah Aisha for 3 years
before he married her.
12-Muslims never concealed it:
Had there been any bad thinking regarding this marriage in
minds of the people at that time. Muslims would have tried
there best to conceal at that time. But they didn’t.
13-Refuting unjust Pagan views:
There were many baseless traditions in practice among the
Arabs in those days. So Prophet Muhammad (peace be
upon him) was usually ordered by the Almighty ALLAH to
refute such traditions through personal examples. Similar
is the case of Prophet Muhammad’s marriage with Umm al
Momineen Aisha (R.A.)
1-For a bad omen, Arab considered Shawwal a month
prohibited for marriage. Sayyidah A’isha’s betrothal and
departure from her parent’s house took place in Shawwal.
This changed the ridiculous custom.
2-Another bad custom was that the Arabs did not give the
hands of their daughters to those who they “called” their
brothers (though were not actual brothers). This was the
objection raised by Abu Bakr himself, when the Prophet
(peace be upon him) made the proposal. The Prophet
(Peace be upon him) then told him that a brother in faith
was not an actual blood brother to be placed in the
prohibited category.
14-Great Wisdom behind this marriage:
Holy Prophet (peace be upon him) marriage with Sayyidah
Aisha at that age was indeed a great blessings for all the
Muslims ever since. Most of the matters related to
cleanliness, married relationship and other household
issues have been cleared due to her narrations. She lived a
long time after the death of the Holy Prophet (peace be
upon him) and continued to teach the Ummah about
matters of daily routine and great importance.
15-What was Sayyidah Aisha famous for ??
Well what was her specialty? I ask the critics.
Was it beauty?
Was it wealth?
No it was religion!Thus proving the DIVINE LOGIC.
Arwa Bin Zubair says, “I did not find anyone more
proficient (than Aisha ) in the knowledge of the Holy Quran,
the Commandments of Halal (lawful) and Haram
(prohibited), Ilmul-Ansab and Arabic poetry. That is why,
even senior companions of the Prophet used to consult
Aisha in resolving intricate issues”.
(Jala-ul-Afham by Ibn Qaiyem and Ibn Sa’ad, Vol.2, p.26)
Also see this;
Abu Musa al-Ashari says: “Never had we (the
companions) any difficulty for the solution of which we
approached Aisha and did not get some useful information
from her”. (Sirat-I-Aisha, on the authority of Trimidhi, pg.
163)
INDEED ALLAH KNOWS THE BEST!!!
Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by Emusan(m): 12:08pm On Sep 04, 2014
Abdulsalam20: grin THAT IS WHY I SAID THE BILE IS NO MORE HOLY EXCEPT SOME FEW PART OF IT BT U CHRISTIAN SAID JESUS IS SON OF GOD AND GOD THAT HE IS NOT A PROPHET SO HOW COME U CALL HIM A PROPHET NOW AND WHO TELL U WE DID NOT BELIEVE IN JESUS JESUS IS A PROPHET BUT U PEOPLE CAL HIM GOD JESUS IS NOT DEAD U SAID HE IS DEAD(watch out for my next topic).......

You should have asked Christian before you say this trash.
"Bible is no more holy except some few part" I know you made this state to further to deceive yourself about Muhammad in the Bible, it's illogical to believe that a book that is corrupted still prophesied the coming of Muhammad.

i even follow jesus more than u think jesus condemn payment of interesr when we try to establish islamic banking with interest free loan CAN OPPOSED IT reference l- Imran {3:130} “O ye who believed! Devour not usury, doubling and quadrupling (the sum lent). Observe your duty to Allah, that ye may be successful.” Another message is repeated in: Surah, Al-Baqara {2:188} “And eat not up your property among yourselves in vanity, nor seek by it to gain the hearing of the judges that ye may knowingly devour a portion of the property of others wrongfully.” What does the Christian book has to say concerning Interest and Bribery? Is it really there in the Bible? Yes! Why is C.A.N against it? I don’t know……….. Then, they are the Biggest Anti-Christ that I have ever seen………….. Exodus 23:8 "And thou shalt take no bribe: for a bribe blindeth them that have sight, and ruins the cause of those who are the righteous.” Warning against Bribery! What about Interest? Let’s examine this verse again: Exodus 22:25 “If thou lend money to any of my people with thee that is poor, thou shalt not be to him as a creditor; neither shall ye lay upon him interest.” Similar message is also repeated in the Book of Deuteronomy: Deuteronomy 23:19 "Thou shalt not lend upon interest to thy brother; interest of money, interest of victuals, interest of anything that is lent upon interest.” THE BIBLE SAID U SHOULD COVER UR HEAD U OPPOSE IT( 1 Corinthians 11:5, says that “Every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonours her head, for that is one and the same as if her head were shaved) WHEN AREGBESHOLA RAISED THE ISSUE OF COVERING HEAD IN OSUN CAN OPPOSE IT WHAT AN ANTI CHRIST i know u will said it is only when they want topray pls dont children pray in school on assembly ground.....dont they pray before eating?......all christians nowadays are anti christ THE BIBLE SAID WOMEN SHOULD NOT TALK IN CHURCH U PEOPLE WENT TO ORGANISE CHOIR EVEN NOW WOMEN ARE NOW PASTORS( - I Corinthians 14:34-35: Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.) JESUS PRAY U NEVER DID THAT INSTEAD U CRITICISE MUSLIMS FOR BOWING THEIR HEAD( DISCRIPTION OF SOLAT IN THE BIBLE "Ezra the scribe stood on a high wooden platform(ready for solat) that had been made for the occasion. To his right stood Mattithiah, Shema, Anaiah, Uriah, Hilkiah, and Maaseiah. To his left stood Pedaiah, Mishael, Malkijah, Hashum, Hashbaddanah, Zechariah, and Meshullam." (Nehemiah 8:4)."And Ezra opened the book in the sight of all the people; (for he was above all the peoplewink (imam) and when he opened it, all the people stood up:" (Nehemiah 8:5)."Then Ezra praised the LORD(takbiratul iram), the great God, and all the people chanted, "Amen! Amen!" as they lifted their hands. Then they bowed down (rukuh) and worshiped the LORD with their faces to the ground(sujud)." (Nehemiah 8:6).......DID U DO THIS? WHAT AN ANTICHRIST.....EVEN THOUGH U PEOPLE TAMPER THE BIBLE THE TRUTH WILL SHOW IT SELF

You believe in quranic jesus your fake prophet tells you not the one who died on the Cross for the salvation of your soul.

No wonder Allah Itself pray.

If you can't answer all my questions stop quoting me. Ok!
Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by cloudstar: 3:56pm On Sep 04, 2014
Abdulsalam20

D U TRIED TO DODGE THE ALLEGDED ANTI CHRIST THAT YOU ARE WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT MARRIAGE A LADY IS DEEM FIT FOR MARRIAGE WHEN SHE ATTAIN PUBERTY EVEN THIS HAS BEEN WIDELY PRACTICED IN MANY COUNTRIES
NOW I WILL EXPLAIN THE FACT FOR U IN DETAIL BELOW

Malu - a girl has young as 6 can start growing hair under her arm-pit; does that mean she is ready for marriage or sex.ual intercourse? Pedo-phile.s such as yourself as the reason the Muslim world has the issue with grown old men marrying kids. Later, you will tell us that Islam is for everyone.
Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by Sovet: 4:41am On Sep 05, 2014
True, God blessed Ishmael because he was the seed of Abraham but had no covenant of prophethood with him. His covenant was with Isaac. Both the bible and quran confirm it (Gen. 17:19-21, Quran 29:27). God could not have sent a prophet through Ishmael seed, i.e Muhammad.

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