My question is that, IS CHRISTIANS' SALVATION TRUE OR
FALSE?
The following details from the Bible proves Christian's
Salvation as futile!
Paul said:
"And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless
and so is your faith." ( 1Corinthians 15:14 ) (N.I.V)
"And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are
still in your sins." ( 1Corinthians 15:17 ) (N.I.V)
"Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are
perished." ( 1Corinthians 15:18 ) (K.J.V)
So, I am going to use their Bible and prove it to them that,
they are in their futile faith - by confirming that, Jesus did not
even die, not even to talk of rising from death!
Paul (the father of Christianity) himself said it very clearly,
and was challenging Galatian people, was even calling them
fools, just because they believed that, Jesus was crucified.
Paul said:
“O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you, before whose
eyes Jesus Christ was publically portrayed as
crucified?” (Galatians 3:1) – (R.S.V)
In King James Version, the verse reads as follows:
“O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should
not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been
evidently set forth, crucified among you?” (Galatians 3:1) –
(K.J.V)
Note
Is’t not a shame to those who persistently believed that,
Jesus was killed and crucified?
Look, Paul does not only refer Galatians as fools but, any
person who believes that Jesus was crucified is also a fool.
Again vivid foolishness in the belief on crucifixion:
Paul said:
"But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumbling
block, and unto the Greeks foolishness;" ( 1Co 1:23 )
My Comment:
So, here he said crucifixion to the Jews was a stumbling
block! He was a liar here! Disbelieving Jews were fully happy
to hear that, Jesus was crucified, in order to be-little and
disrespect him globally, this was the reason why they wrote
it in the Bible and inculcated the dogma to the minds of
Christians for them to be pleased. And they sent Paul in
order to be preaching it among the Gentiles (Christians - as
they consider them 'fools') exactly as he said it in the above
verse i.e. 1Corinthians 1:23. Though he was sometimes
telling them the truth of the matter, but Christians failed to
understand him - because he always teach them in a
dubious manner - he will say something here and changed it
there, in the same Bible. He highly twisted the Gospel and
made it very obscured for them to understand. Consequently
Christians failed to understand him. And they blindly refused
to be taking the corrections from Muslims.
In a very corny and fashioned manner, he was mocking
Gentiles again. He said:
"Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the
weakness of God is stronger than men." ( 1Co 1:25 )
Note
Is this the speech of a believer? How can a believer relate
foolishness and weakness to God Almighty? Never! God
forbid!
He said again:
"But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to
confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of
the world to confound the things which are mighty;" ( 1Co
1:27 )
Note
So, you see what I mentioned above 'of twisting and
obscuring the Gospel'? He said "God chosen the foolish
things of the world to confound the wise" - this means that,
he was using his distorted manner of teachings (crucifixion,
the Trinity dogma, the dogma of divinty of Jesus, the divine
sonship of Jesus, the dogma of Original sin and Atonement
etc) to stupefy and confuse the Gentiles (Christians) and
cause them to be unable to think clearly. In his cunny way of
preaching and writings, he make them to believe and accept
his gospels as if it was from God, without any objections.
Consider the following:
"And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the
affections and lusts." ( Galatians 5:24 )
Note
Paul said, the Jews and Roman Soldiers who attempted to
kill Jesus, were the Christ's people, they profoundly love and
adore him, that's why they wanted to kill him. Here in a
cunny way Paul was trying to legalize their wickedness on
Jesus.
In the following verse he said Jesus made a curse for them
and said that's why Jews hanged him on the tree:
"Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being
made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed [is] every one
that hangeth on a tree:" ( Gal 3:13 )
Jews and Paul wrote some detestable words against God
and Jesus (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him). They
said:
"And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and
of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve
him:" ( Rev 22:3 )
Note
Jews and Paul made their insertion of their agenda of
publicizing the curse on Jesus and on God Himself. God
forbid! May God curse unbelieving Jews. Amen. And see how
foolish Gentiles follow his teaching steadfastly, and even
claiming to be on the right way! A disbeliever and enemy of
God, and open enemy to Jesus, who killed several true Jesus'
followers, just overnight to bring message and said it was
from Jesus. And blindly Christians with open hands accepted
him as Saint, disciple and a messenger of Jesus! While he
openly said it was a 'MESSENGER OF SATAN' torturing him
and wanted to exalt him (in the world) by giving him
adequate Revelations. Bible said it very clearly:
"And lest I should be exalted above measure through the
abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn
in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I
should be exalted above measure." ( 2Corinthians 12:7 )
Therefore, how will you expect the guidance from such kind
of people dealing with Satan (devils) in their activities? And
boldly you come out and say you are on the right path
having the right Salvation! Think over it!
And then Paul wrote the following again which is contrary to
what is in the Galatian 3:13:
"Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking
by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and [that] no
man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy
Ghost." ( 1Corinthians 12:3 )
Note
In the book of Galatians 3:13 and the book of Revelation 22:3
he and Jews openly called Jesus accursed. And in the same
Bible (his own gospels) i.e in the book of 1Corinthian 12:3,
he was contradicting their earlier claims.
This also testifies that, what he said ealier was not from God.
Because,they clearly called Jesus as an accursed person,
(and this claim, testifies that, what he says was from Satan -
i.e. Messenger of Satan). And according to 1Corinthians 12:3,
Paul was a liar, because he preaches that 'Jesus was the
Lord,' and Holy Ghost did not teach him, but MESSENGER OF
SATAN. Precisely, he made it very clear to Christians that,
what he tells to them was a futile dogma. Shine your eyes oo!
AND THE SAME MAN WAS TRYING TO BE FREE FROM
CUNNINGLY DEVICES FABLES IN HIS SPEECHES AND
LETTERS:
"Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? [shall]
tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or
unclothedness, or peril, or sword?" (Romans 8:35 )
Paul made efforts to make sure his followers remained in his
course:
"Moreover I will endeavour that ye may be able after my
decease to have these things always in
remembrance." (2Peter 1:15 )
" For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when
we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord
Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty." (2Peter
1:16)
Note
What Paul said here was not true. Because, majority of his
teachings are deliberately invented and masqueraded false.
Now he was saying "For we have not followed cunningly
devised fables..." This very claim does not even nearly
correspond to the majority of his teachings. Therefore, it is
another crafty way of deceit, so that, nobody fits to separate
them from loving Christ, but in a mysterious and deceitful
manner. We Muslims want Christians to love Christ in a
better and truthful way but not in deceitful manner, - Jesus
said:
"If ye love me, keep my commandments." (Joh 14:15 )
" If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love;
even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide
in his love." (Joh 15:10)
And we want all Christians to copy exactly as Jesus did in
his lifetime, but not in the way these dubious people taught
in their gospels. You can only know the true activities and
sayings of Christ by either following the Gospel of Barnabas
or the revelation of God (Qur'an).
My question is that, how will they succeed by following the
false teaching in the name of loving Christ? Even if they
succeeded in misleading people in this world, they would
certainly never succeed in the hereafter. So, Be ware!
AGAIN, THE FOLLOWING EVIDENCES CONFIRM THAT JESUS
WAS NOT CRUCIFIED
IF TRULY JESUS CAME TO THIS WORLD TO DIE FOR THE
SINS OF THE WORLD, WHY DID HE PRAYED AND ASKED
Allah TO SAVE HIM FROM THE DEATH ON THE CROSS?
Bible says:
" And they came to a place which was named Gethsemane:
and he saith to his disciples, Sit ye here, while I shall
pray." (Mar 14:32)
"And he taketh with him Peter and James and John, and
began to be sore amazed, and to be very heavy;" (Mar
14:33)
" And saith unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful unto
death: tarry ye here, and watch." (Mar 14:34)
Note
If truly Jesus came to the world and died for the sins of
mankind, why was he unhappy and lamenting unto his
death? Think over it please! And don't let to others deceive
you!
The Bible continues:
"And he went forward a little, and fell on the ground, and
prayed that, if it were possible, the hour might pass from
him." (Mar 14:35)
" And he said, Abba, Father, all things [are] possible unto
thee; take away this cup from me: nevertheless not what I
will, but what thou wilt." (Mar 14:36)
" And he cometh, and findeth them sleeping, and saith unto
Peter, Simon, sleepest thou? couldest not thou watch one
hour?" (Mar 14:37)
" Watch ye and pray, lest ye enter into temptation. The spirit
truly [is] ready, but the flesh [is] weak." (Mar 14:38)
"And again he went away, and prayed, and spake the same
words." (Mar 14:39
"And when he returned, he found them asleep again, (for
their eyes were heavy,) neither wist they what to answer
him." (Mar 14:40 )
"And he cometh the third time, and saith unto them, Sleep on
now, and take [your] rest: it is enough, the hour is come;
behold, the Son of man is betrayed into the hands of
sinners." (Mar 14:41)
Note
Here Jesus called himself the "son of man" neither the son of
God nor the God himself! Shine your eyes oo!
Again, if what Jews were trying to do (i.e murder) was in
order, why Jesus called them sinners? And how comes his
death became lawful and for atoning world sins? Think over
it!
"Rise up, let us go; lo, he that betrayeth me is at hand." (Mar
14:42)
"And immediately, while he yet spake, cometh Judas, one of
the twelve, and with him a great multitude with swords and
staves, from the chief priests and the scribes and the
elders." (Mar 14:43)
"And he that betrayed him had given them a token, saying,
Whomsoever I shall kiss, that same is he; take him, and lead
[him] away safely." (Mar 14:44)
"And as soon as he was come, he goeth straightway to him,
and saith, Master, master; and kissed him." (Mar 14:45)
"And they laid their hands on him, and took him." (Mar
14:46)
Also in the book of Matthew 26:36-44, Jesus did the same
prayer for God to save him from the death of which
Christians were amplifying for the redepmtion of their sins. If
it is true, his death was for their sins, why did he appealing to
God, to give him protection? Think over it!
Again Jesus said:
"Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say? Father, save
me from this hour: but for this cause came I unto this
hour." (Joh 12:27)
Why did Jesus not agree to die for the sins of mankind as
Christians say?
Or did he forget the contract he took from heaven of coming
to die for the sins of the world, as Christians proclaime?
Certainly it seems that, the dogma does not have base!
The last and most important question:
Did God answer the prayer of Jesus or did God reject his
prayers? And where does Bible says, God rejected the prayer
request of Jesus?
The Bible will tell:
The first assurance, God gave to Jesus of answering his
prayer was to send his Angel to strengthen him, in the
following verses:
"And he came out, and went, as he was wont, to the mount
of Olives; and his disciples also followed him." (Luk 22:39)
"And when he was at the place, he said unto them, Pray that
ye enter not into temptation." (Luk 22:40)
" And he was withdrawn from them about a stone's cast,
and kneeled down, and prayed," (Luk 22:41)
"Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me:
nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done." (Luk 22:42)
"And there appeared an angel unto him from heaven,
strengthening him." (Luk 22:43)
"And being in an agony he prayed more earnestly: and his
sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the
ground." (Luk 22:44)
Note
Now, why did God sent His Angel to Jesus when he was in a
serious agony and in excessive sweat because of the
seriousness of his request?
And why the Angel did come and strengthened him? It is a
common knowledge and experience that God always sent His
Angels to comfort his chosen prophets or Saints by telling
them that their requests have been accepted by Him (Allah),
or to help them in their situations. The following verses
confirm it:
"For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee
in all thy ways." (Psa 91:11)
"The angel of the LORD encampeth round about them that
fear him, and delivereth them." (Psa 34:7)
"[Then] Nebuchadnezzar spake, and said, Blessed [be] the
God of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, who hath sent
his angel, and delivered his servants that trusted in him, and
have changed the king's word, and yielded their bodies, that
they might not serve nor worship any god, except their own
God." (Dan 3:28)
Likewise, the Glorious Qur'an says:
Surah Fussilat 41, Verse 30:
"(As for) those who say: Our Lord is Allah, then continue in
the right way, the angels descend upon them, saying: Fear
not, nor be grieved, and receive good news of the garden
which you were promised." (English - Shakir)
Surah Fussilat 41, Verse 31:
"We are your guardians in this world's life and in the
hereafter, and you shall have therein what your souls desire
and you shall have therein what you ask for:" (English -
Shakir)
Therefore, the purpose of coming of the Angel to Jesus at the
time of his fear and suffering, when he was praying for the
cup of death to be taken away from him was to inform him
that his blood-like sweating prayer was accepted by God.
And if this earnest prayer of Jesus was accepted by God,
how could he have died on the cross? Never!
FURTHER EVIDENCES ON THE APPROVAL OF JESUS
PRAYER:
"Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up
prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto
him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in
that he feared;" (Heb 5:7)
The verse says, Jesus prayed to be saved from the death,
and was heard in that he feared (death) - means God
accepted his prayer and grant his request - means he was
saved from what he feared - which is death. So, if Christians
still insisted that, Jesus was crucified, then the Hebrew 5:7 is
in a serious contradiction - of which Christians seriouly hate
to hear!
Bible says again:
"Then they took away the stone [from the place] where the
dead was laid. And Jesus lifted up [his] eyes, and said,
Father, I thank thee that thou hast heard me." (Joh 11:41)
"And I knew that thou hearest me always: but because of the
people which stand by I said [it], that they may believe that
thou hast sent me." (Joh 11:42)
Note
"...And Jesus lifted up [his] eyes, and said, Father, I thank
thee that thou hast heard me." - What dose this mean
please?
This means that, they tried but not succeeded, because God
intervened and saved him from his enemies. Thus, they were
not able to kill him, and consequently he was thanking God
for saving him from the death on the cross. Therefore, where
did Paul and his followers (Christians) found, Jesus as dead
on the cross? If they still believe that, he was dead on the
cross, so they disbelieved with the above Biblical passages,
which certainly such, will lead them to miss road of true
salvation, and enter into a dilemma, that they can never
come out of it. Again, as I mentioned above, if they still
insisted that, Jesus was crucified, then the John 11:41 & 42
are in a serious contradiction - of which Christians also
seriouly dislike to hear!
Therefore, Islamic teaching is perfectly true. Whereas,
Christian's dogma is obviously false!
Bible confirms the divine emancipation of Allah on Jesus
from the death:
"Now we know that God heareth not sinners: but if any man
be a worshipper of God, and doeth his will, him he
heareth." (Joh 9:31)
Note
This verse shows that, Jesus' prayers were accepted by God
of Mighty Power, because he was a true worshipper of God
and a righteous person. But, the reverse is the case in God's
enemies - their attempt was in vain, because of their evils,
and were not true worshippers of God.
Jesus also said: "And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in
prayer, believing, ye shall receive." ( Mat 21:22 )
Bible also said:
"Confess [your] faults one to another, and pray one for
another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer
of a righteous man availeth much." ( James 5:16 )
Note
Jesus' prayers were very effectual and serious in Luke 22:39
- 46; and so his prayer was accepted; or is James 5:16 does
not say the truth? No! It says the truth!
Christian reader may wonder, how a Muslim can easily see
all these truth in the Bible, while its followers (Christians) fail
to see it? We (Muslims) can easily see it, because Allah
already told us everything in the Glorious Qur'an. Allah says
concerning the so-called Christians' dogma on Jesus' death
on the cross:
Surah Name: (Qur'an 4:157)
"That they (Jews) said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the
son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him
not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them,
and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no
(certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a
surety they killed him not:-"
"Nay! Allah took him up to Himself; and Allah is Mighty,
Wise." (Qur'an 4:158)
(English - Shakir)
So, you see, Allah has spoken the truth. He already told
prophet Muhammad that, Jews did not kill nor crucified him,
but it was made to appear to them as they killed him, but
certainly they did not. But Allah took him to heaven (to
Himself). So, we are the best in position to easily see it, and
notify any Christian for them to take correction and revert to
the original belief.

MORE EVIDENCES IN THE OLD TESTAMENT ON THE
APPROVAL OF JESUS'S PRAYER BY GOD:
Bible says:
"The eyes of the LORD [are] upon the righteous, and his ears
[are open] unto their cry." (Psa 34:15)
"[The righteous] cry, and the LORD heareth, and delivereth
them out of all their troubles." (Psa 34:17)
"The LORD [is] nigh unto them that are of a broken heart;
and saveth such as be of a contrite spirit." (Psa 34:18)
Prophet David perceived the event of his son's state of
sorrow of death, and said exactly what Jesus said:
"I will call upon the LORD, [who is worthy] to be praised: so
shall I be saved from mine enemies." (Psa 18:3)
"The sorrows of death compassed me, and the floods of
ungodly men made me afraid." (Psa 18:4)
"The sorrows of hell compassed me about: the snares of
death prevented me." (Psa 18:5)
"In my distress I called upon the LORD, and cried unto my
God: he heard my voice out of his temple, and my cry came
before him, [even] into his ears." (Psa 18:6)
Note
Prophet David already prophesied the acceptance of Jesus'
prayer by God, right from his time. He said:
"...he heard my voice out of his temple, and my cry came
before him, [even] into his ears."
He then prophesied Jesus' departure to the heaven as both
Qur'an and the Gospel mentioned:
"And he rode upon a cherub, and did fly: yea, he did fly upon
the wings of the wind." (Psa 18:10)
" He made darkness his secret place; his pavilion round
about him [were] dark waters [and] thick clouds of the
skies." (Psa 18:11)
"He sent from above, he took me, he drew me out of many
waters." (Psa 18:16)
"He delivered me from my strong enemy, and from them
which hated me: for they were too strong for me." (Psa
18:17)
Prophet David said again:
" [But] verily God hath heard [me]; he hath attended to the
voice of my prayer." (Psa 66:19)
" Blessed [be] God, which hath not turned away my prayer,
nor his mercy from me." (Psa 66:20)
Note
These verses also confirm that, Jesus did not die on the
cross, right from the time of prophet David Allah informed
him about the answering of Jesus's prayer and divine rescue
he given to him (Jesus).
Then Bible also reconfirmed it more and more:
"The fear of the LORD prolongeth days: but the years of the
wicked shall be shortened." (Pro 10:27)
Allah said in the Qur'an:
Surah Ghafir, Verse 60:
"And your Lord says: Call upon Me, I will answer you; surely
those who are too proud for My service shall soon enter hell
abased." (English - Shakir)
Allah also says in Chapter Baqarah:
"When my servants ask you (O Muhammad) concerning me
say, I am very close to them, I hear the prayer of the
supplicant when he calls on me, therefore let them answer
my call (by obeying my commandments) so that they would
be guided (to the right path of faith)." (Qur'an 2:186)
Therefore, the above verses are pin-pointing to the fact that,
God does not disappoint the prayers of His righteous people,
but whenever they called on Him in their afflictions he
answers their supplication very quickly. The verses are also
proving to us that, Jesus' prayers for God to rescue him from
the plot of his enemies were answered by God. And thus,
obliterates the Christians dogma about Jesus' death on the
cross. The belief has no base at all. All what they follow were
just conjecture, and can only lead them to uncertainty and
confusions. In the sense that, if the request of Jesus Christ
was not answered by God as Christians want us to believe,
then the Bible is not saying the truth. And, either they
contradict Bible, or Bible contradicts their dogma. But if the
Bible is right in telling us that, the prayers of Jesus Christ
were heard and accepted by God, and He saved him from
the death, then the whole Christians who believed and
preached that Jesus died on the cross for the sins of
mankind, are not only liars but deceivers. Either the Bible is
right and Christians are wrong; or the Christians are right
and the Bible is wrong. So, ponder over it, and judge by your
self!
SO, IT MEANS PAUL'S TEACHINGS TO CHRISTIANS WERE
INVAIN, IF CHRIST DID NOT DIE ON THE CROSS AND
RAISED:
Paul said:
"And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless
and so is your faith." ( 1Co 15:14 ) (N.I.V)
Note
Based on the above solid evidences, Jesus was not even
dead, so, how will he raised from the dead? So you see the
preaching of Paul, and your faith are useless? It is not me
said it, it was the preacher of the dogma clearly said it in
1Corinthians 15:14!
Paul continued saying:
"More than that, we are then found to be false witnesses
about God, for we have testified about God that he raised
Christ from the dead. But he did not raise him if in fact the
dead are not raised." ( 1Co 15:15 ) (N.I.V)
"For if the dead are not raised, then Christ has not been
raised either." ( 1Co 15:16 ) (N.I.V)
"And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are
still in your sins." ( 1Co 15:17 ) (N.I.V)
Note
Paul said, if really Jesus did not die and raise up from the
dead - they were lying against God. And their faith is useless.
And Christians still remained in their sins.
He says again:
"Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ are
lost." ( 1Co 15:18 ) (N.I.V)
King James Version says:
"Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are
perished." ( 1Co 15:18 ) (K.J.V)
Note
Look the 1Corinthians 12:3 - made Paul to be a liar by
calling Jesus a Lord,
i.e. :
"Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking
by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and [that] no
man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy
Ghost." ( 1Co 12:3 ) (K.J.V.)
There several verses where Paul called Jesus accursed in the
book of Galatians 3:13, as I mentioned above. And kept
calling Jesus 'Lord' almost everywhere in the New
Testament. And it was not the Holy Ghost told him to call
Jesus like that, it was the Messenger of Satan's instructions -
because, in the book of 2Corinthians 12:7 - Paul clearly
explained how the Messenger of Satan was torturing him,
and giving him abundance of Revelations so that he might
exalt in the world. Therefore, the above verse 1Corinthians
12:3 vividly exposed Paul as a liar in the world of
Christianity.
In the book of 1Corinthians 15:18 Paul was trying to show to
the Christians their abode in the hereafter - because
Christians' hope was on Jesus' resurrection, and Paul told
them that: "... if Christ has not been raised,(their) preaching
is useless and so is (their) faith." ( 1Co 15:14 ), and anybody
died with a futile faith, will remain in his sins and certainly
the sins would lead him to the Hell (especially when he died
in associating Allah with other deities in worship), and he
would abide in it!
Certainly, Christ did not raised from the dead, and thus, their
faith is vain, and that their sins, still remained, till they follow
the truth, by accepting and believing, in One God (Allah) -
who is Only worthy of worship. Then believing and accepting
Prophet Muhammad as Allah's slave and His final
messenger. Then believing and accepting Prophet Jesus as
Allah's slave and His Messenger. If they believed in this,
certainly, they are Muslims. And Allah promised that, they
would never be perished in the hereafter. If they refused and
denied the truth, then the prophecy of Paul of 1Corinthians
15:18 would certainly be fulfilled upon them!

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READ MY POST ABOUT MUHAMMAD IN THE BIBLE
PROPHET MUHAMMAD (pbuh) IN THE BIBLE
by Dr. Zakir Naik
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in the Old Testament:
The Qur’an mentions in Surah Al-Araf chapter 7 verse 157:
"Those who follow the Messenger, the unlettered Prophet,
whom they
find mentioned in their own (scriptures) in the law and the
Gospel".
1. MUHAMMAD (PBUH) PROPHESISED IN THE BOOK OF
DEUTERONOMY:
Almighty God speaks to Moses in Book of Deuteronomy
chapter 18 verse 18:
"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren,
like
unto thee, and I will put my words in his mouth; and he
shall speak unto them all that I shall command him."
The Christians say that this prophecy refers to Jesus (pbuh)
because Jesus (pbuh) was like Moses (pbuh). Moses (pbuh)
was a Jew, as well as Jesus (pbuh) was a Jew. Moses
(pbuh)
was a Prophet and Jesus (pbuh) was also a Prophet.
If these two are the only criteria for this prophecy to be
fulfilled, then all the Prophets of the Bible who came after
Moses (pbuh) such as Solomon, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Daniel,
Hosea, Joel, Malachi, John the Baptist, etc. (pbut) will
fulfill this prophecy since all were Jews as well as prophets.
However, it is Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) who is like Moses
(pbuh):
i) Both had a father and a mother, while Jesus (pbuh) was
born miraculously without any male intervention.
[Mathew 1:18 and Luke 1:35 and also Al-Qur'an 3:42-47]
ii) Both were married and had children. Jesus (pbuh)
according to the Bible did not marry nor had children.
iii) Both died natural deaths. Jesus (pbuh) has been raised
up
alive. (4:157-158)
Muhammad (pbuh) is from among the brethren of Moses
(pbuh). Arabs are brethren of Jews. Abraham (pbuh) had two
sons: Ishmail and Isaac (pbut). The Arabs are the
descendants of Ishmail (pbuh) and the Jews are the
descendants of Isaac (pbuh).
Words in the mouth:
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was unlettered and whatever
revelations he received from Almighty God he repeated them
verbatim.
"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren,
like
unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall
speak unto them all that I shall command him."
[Deuteronomy 18:18]
iv) Both besides being Prophets were also kings i.e. they
could
inflict capital punishment. Jesus (pbuh) said, "My
kingdom is not of this world." (John 18:36).
v) Both were accepted as Prophets by their people in their
lifetime but Jesus (pbuh) was rejected by his
people. John chapter 1 verse 11 states, "He came unto his
own, but his own received him not."
iv) Both brought new laws and new regulations for their
people. Jesus (pbuh) according to the Bible did not bring
any new laws. (Mathew 5:17-18) .
2. It is Mentioned in the book of Deuteronomy chapter 18:19
"And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not harken
unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will
require it of him."
3. Muhammad (pbuh) is prophesised in the book of Isaiah:
It is mentioned in the book of Isaiah chapter 29 verse 12:
"And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying,
Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned."
When Archangel Gabrail commanded Muhammad (pbuh) by
saying Iqra - "Read", he replied, "I am not learned" .
4. prophet Muhammad (pbuh) mentioned by name in the old
testament:
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is mentioned by name in the
Song
of Solomon chapter 5 verse 16:
" Hikko Mamittakim we kullo Muhammadim Zehdoodeh wa
Zehraee Bayna Jerusalem ."
"His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is altogether lovely. This is
my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters
of Jerusalem."
In the Hebrew language im is added for respect. Similarely im
is added after the name of Prophet Muhammad
(pbuh) to make it Muhammadim. In English translation they
have even translated the name of Prophet Muhammad
(pbuh) as "altogether lovely", but in the Old Testament in
Hebrew, the name of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is yet
present.
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in the New Testament:
Al-Qur'an Chapter 61 Verse 6:
"And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said, 'O Children of
Israel! I
am the messenger of Allah (sent) to you, confirming the Law
(which
came) before me and giving glad tidings of a messenger to
come
after me, whose name shall be Ahmed.' But when he came to
them
with clear signs, they said, 'This is evident sorcery!' "
All the prophecies mentioned in the Old Testament regarding
Muhammad (pbuh) besides applying to the Jews also hold
good for
the Christians.
1. John chapter 14 verse 16:
"And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another
Comforter, that he may abide with you forever."
2. Gospel of John chapter 15 verse 26:
"But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you
from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which
proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me."
3. Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 7:
"Nevertheless I tell you the truth; it is expedient for you that I
go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not
come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you".
"Ahmed" or "Muhammad" meaning "the one who praises" or
"the praised one" is almost the translation of the
Greek word Periclytos. In the Gospel of John 14:16, 15:26,
and
16:7. The word 'Comforter' is used in the English
translation for the Greek word Paracletos which means
advocate or a kind friend rather than a comforter.
Paracletos is the warped reading for Periclytos. Jesus (pbuh)
actually prophesised Ahmed by name. Even the
Greek word Paraclete refers to the Prophet (pbuh) who is a
mercy for all creatures.
Some Christians say that the Comforter mentioned in these
prophecies refers to the Holy Sprit. They fail to realise
that the prophecy clearly says that only if Jesus (pbuh)
departs will the Comforter come. The Bible states that the
Holy Spirit was already present on earth before and during
the
time of Jesus (pbuh), in the womb of Elizabeth, and again
when Jesus (pbuh) was being baptised, etc. Hence this
prophecy refers to none other than Prophet
Muhammad (pbuh).
4. Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 12-14:
"I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear
them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth is
come, he will guide you unto all truth: for he shall not speak
of
himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak:
and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me".
The Sprit of Truth, spoken about in this prophecy referes to
none
other than Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)
NOTE : All quotations of the Bible are taken from the King
James
Version.
Reference: http://www.irf.net/irf/comparativereligion/
index.htm

And again u've typed another THRASH. what a pooish post.. Typing pooh all over.. #unfollows thread# but i leave with a message.. Its either u confess Jesus as Lord on earth or u reject God's salvation and continue in ur sins but be sure of this hell and eternal destruction is nigh to all Christ rejecters... I'm outta here.. #leaves thread

Abdulsalam20: MORE EVIDENCES IN THE OLD TESTAMENT ON THE
APPROVAL OF JESUS'S PRAYER BY GOD:
Bible says:
"The eyes of the LORD [are] upon the righteous, and his ears
[are open] unto their cry." (Psa 34:15)
"[The righteous] cry, and the LORD heareth, and delivereth
them out of all their troubles." (Psa 34:17)
"The LORD [is] nigh unto them that are of a broken heart;
and saveth such as be of a contrite spirit." (Psa 34:18)
Prophet David perceived the event of his son's state of
sorrow of death, and said exactly what Jesus said:
"I will call upon the LORD, [who is worthy] to be praised: so
shall I be saved from mine enemies." (Psa 18:3)
"The sorrows of death compassed me, and the floods of
ungodly men made me afraid." (Psa 18:4)
"The sorrows of hell compassed me about: the snares of
death prevented me." (Psa 18:5)
"In my distress I called upon the LORD, and cried unto my
God: he heard my voice out of his temple, and my cry came
before him, [even] into his ears." (Psa 18:6)
Note
Prophet David already prophesied the acceptance of Jesus'
prayer by God, right from his time. He said:
"...he heard my voice out of his temple, and my cry came
before him, [even] into his ears."
He then prophesied Jesus' departure to the heaven as both
Qur'an and the Gospel mentioned:
"And he rode upon a cherub, and did fly: yea, he did fly upon
the wings of the wind." (Psa 18:10)
" He made darkness his secret place; his pavilion round
about him [were] dark waters [and] thick clouds of the
skies." (Psa 18:11)
"He sent from above, he took me, he drew me out of many
waters." (Psa 18:16)
"He delivered me from my strong enemy, and from them
which hated me: for they were too strong for me." (Psa
18:17)
Prophet David said again:
" [But] verily God hath heard [me]; he hath attended to the
voice of my prayer." (Psa 66:19)
" Blessed [be] God, which hath not turned away my prayer,
nor his mercy from me." (Psa 66:20)
Note
These verses also confirm that, Jesus did not die on the
cross, right from the time of prophet David Allah informed
him about the answering of Jesus's prayer and divine rescue
he given to him (Jesus).
Then Bible also reconfirmed it more and more:
"The fear of the LORD prolongeth days: but the years of the
wicked shall be shortened." (Pro 10:27)
Allah said in the Qur'an:
Surah Ghafir, Verse 60:
"And your Lord says: Call upon Me, I will answer you; surely
those who are too proud for My service shall soon enter hell
abased." (English - Shakir)
Allah also says in Chapter Baqarah:
"When my servants ask you (O Muhammad) concerning me
say, I am very close to them, I hear the prayer of the
supplicant when he calls on me, therefore let them answer
my call (by obeying my commandments) so that they would
be guided (to the right path of faith)." (Qur'an 2:186)
Therefore, the above verses are pin-pointing to the fact that,
God does not disappoint the prayers of His righteous people,
but whenever they called on Him in their afflictions he
answers their supplication very quickly. The verses are also
proving to us that, Jesus' prayers for God to rescue him from
the plot of his enemies were answered by God. And thus,
obliterates the Christians dogma about Jesus' death on the
cross. The belief has no base at all. All what they follow were
just conjecture, and can only lead them to uncertainty and
confusions. In the sense that, if the request of Jesus Christ
was not answered by God as Christians want us to believe,
then the Bible is not saying the truth. And, either they
contradict Bible, or Bible contradicts their dogma. But if the
Bible is right in telling us that, the prayers of Jesus Christ
were heard and accepted by God, and He saved him from
the death, then the whole Christians who believed and
preached that Jesus died on the cross for the sins of
mankind, are not only liars but deceivers. Either the Bible is
right and Christians are wrong; or the Christians are right
and the Bible is wrong. So, ponder over it, and judge by your
self!
SO, IT MEANS PAUL'S TEACHINGS TO CHRISTIANS WERE
INVAIN, IF CHRIST DID NOT DIE ON THE CROSS AND
RAISED:
Paul said:
"And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless
and so is your faith." ( 1Co 15:14 ) (N.I.V)
Note
Based on the above solid evidences, Jesus was not even
dead, so, how will he raised from the dead? So you see the
preaching of Paul, and your faith are useless? It is not me
said it, it was the preacher of the dogma clearly said it in
1Corinthians 15:14!
Paul continued saying:
"More than that, we are then found to be false witnesses
about God, for we have testified about God that he raised
Christ from the dead. But he did not raise him if in fact the
dead are not raised." ( 1Co 15:15 ) (N.I.V)
"For if the dead are not raised, then Christ has not been
raised either." ( 1Co 15:16 ) (N.I.V)
"And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are
still in your sins." ( 1Co 15:17 ) (N.I.V)
Note
Paul said, if really Jesus did not die and raise up from the
dead - they were lying against God. And their faith is useless.
And Christians still remained in their sins.
He says again:
"Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ are
lost." ( 1Co 15:18 ) (N.I.V)
King James Version says:
"Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are
perished." ( 1Co 15:18 ) (K.J.V)
Note
Look the 1Corinthians 12:3 - made Paul to be a liar by
calling Jesus a Lord,
i.e. :
"Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking
by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and [that] no
man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy
Ghost." ( 1Co 12:3 ) (K.J.V.)
There several verses where Paul called Jesus accursed in the
book of Galatians 3:13, as I mentioned above. And kept
calling Jesus 'Lord' almost everywhere in the New
Testament. And it was not the Holy Ghost told him to call
Jesus like that, it was the Messenger of Satan's instructions -
because, in the book of 2Corinthians 12:7 - Paul clearly
explained how the Messenger of Satan was torturing him,
and giving him abundance of Revelations so that he might
exalt in the world. Therefore, the above verse 1Corinthians
12:3 vividly exposed Paul as a liar in the world of
Christianity.
In the book of 1Corinthians 15:18 Paul was trying to show to
the Christians their abode in the hereafter - because
Christians' hope was on Jesus' resurrection, and Paul told
them that: "... if Christ has not been raised,(their) preaching
is useless and so is (their) faith." ( 1Co 15:14 ), and anybody
died with a futile faith, will remain in his sins and certainly
the sins would lead him to the Hell (especially when he died
in associating Allah with other deities in worship), and he
would abide in it!
Certainly, Christ did not raised from the dead, and thus, their
faith is vain, and that their sins, still remained, till they follow
the truth, by accepting and believing, in One God (Allah) -
who is Only worthy of worship. Then believing and accepting
Prophet Muhammad as Allah's slave and His final
messenger. Then believing and accepting Prophet Jesus as
Allah's slave and His Messenger. If they believed in this,
certainly, they are Muslims. And Allah promised that, they
would never be perished in the hereafter. If they refused and
denied the truth, then the prophecy of Paul of 1Corinthians
15:18 would certainly be fulfilled upon them!

My brother and friend, the mistake you've made is you've tried to read and understand the word of God of your own understanding without proper guidance "The guidance of the Holy Spirit" which you currently lack and can't have access to unless you proceed to follow the right principles as the word of God has said in this example verse of the bible John 14:26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you"

Here's Breaking it down..

When you set to state your assertion, you set to look for pitfalls in the bible; this implies that you set not to read the word to understand it's contextual meaning, you rather set to defile the word forgetting that the word of God itself is living as written in the bible "For the word of God is living and active and sharper than any two-edged sword, and piercing as far as the division of soul and spirit, of both joints and marrow, and able to judge the thoughts and intentions of the heart." Hebrews 4:12
The word has Judged your thoughts seein' you sought not to do with it good but evil, therefore its true meaning is withdrawn from you.

Now, you must not wrongly conclude that your failure to interpret/understand the word accurately proves God did not clearly reveal Himself and His message to you in the Bible. Neither is it true that the meaning of Scripture is so obscure it is virtually impossible to discern.There is one correct interpretation of Scripture, and the rest is often the result of Scripture twisting, whether intentional as in your case or not.

BossTtdiamonds:

My brother and friend, the mistake you've made is you've tried to read and understand the word of God of your own understanding without proper guidance "The guidance of the Holy Spirit" which you currently lack and can't have access to unless you proceed to follow the right principles as the word of God has said in this example verse of the bible John 14:26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you"

Here's Breaking it down..

When you set to state your assertion, you set to look for pitfalls in the bible; this implies that you set not to read the word to understand it's contextual meaning, you rather set to defile the word forgetting that the word of God itself is living as written in the bible "For the word of God is living and active and sharper than any two-edged sword, and piercing as far as the division of soul and spirit, of both joints and marrow, and able to judge the thoughts and intentions of the heart." Hebrews 4:12
The word has Judged your thoughts seein' you sought not to do with it good but evil, therefore its true meaning is withdrawn from you.

Now, you must not wrongly conclude that your failure to interpret/understand the word accurately proves God did not clearly reveal Himself and His message to you in the Bible. Neither is it true that the meaning of Scripture is so obscure it is virtually impossible to discern.There is one correct interpretation of Scripture, and the rest is often the result of Scripture twisting, whether intentional as in your case or not.

LAUGHING IN HAUSA LANGUAGE WAYO! U SAID BIBLE CANNOT BE UNDERSTOOD BY ANYBODY IF U GO AND MEET A CITIZEN OF THE HEBREWES AS IN THOSE WHO SPEAK HEBREW THAT IS WHAT HE WILL TRANSLATE IT FOR U EVEN BESIDE ALL THOSE VERSES ARE COPIED FROM BIBLE ENGLISH VERSION SO U MEAN I DONT UNDERSTAND ENGLISH IF I SAY ADE IS A BOY SO U MEAN IT HAS ANOTHER MEANING EVEN WHAT U SAID IS OPPOSED BY CHRISTIAN SCHOLARS......THEY SAID THE BIBLE CAN BE LITERALLY UNDERSTOOD EVIDENCE
Clarity of scripture
The vast majority of evangelical and fundamentalist
Christians hold that scripture is clear, that the basic
meaning and teachings of scripture may be understood by
the average person. It refers to the product (teachings of
scripture) rather than the process of interpretation itself
( exegesis). Martin Luther distinguished between external
and internal aspects within the clarity of scripture. External
clarity concerns the principles of hermeneutics (including
grammatical aspects) and guidance into understanding
through the process of interpretation. The internal clarity
concerns illumination of the believer—that is, guidance into
understanding by the Holy Spirit. [17]
The doctrine of clarity of scripture does not mean that no
interpretative principles are necessary, or that there is no
gap between the culture in which the Bible was written and
the culture of a modern reader. Instead, exegetical and
interpretative principles are utilized as part of the process of
closing that cultural gap. The doctrine does deny that the
Bible is a code to decipher, or that it cannot be understood
apart from complex academic analysis as is typical in the
historical-critical method of interpretation. [18]
Biblical literalists believe that, unless a passage is clearly
intended as allegory, poetry, or some other genre, the Bible
should be interpreted as literal statements by the author.
Who may appropriately decide when a passage is allegorical
or literal, however, is not defined. Fundamentalists typically
treat as simple history, according to its plain sense, such
passages as the Genesis account of creation , the deluge and
Noah's ark , and the unnaturally long life-spans of the
patriarchs given in genealogies of Genesis, as well as the
strict historicity of the narrative accounts of Ancient Israel,
the supernatural interventions of God in history, and Jesus'
miracles .[19][20] Literalism does not deny that parables,
metaphors and allegory exist in the Bible, but rather relies
on contextual interpretations based on the author's
intention. [21]
As a part of the Chicago Statement on Biblical Inerrancy ,
[22] conservative Christian scholarship affirms the
following:
Noted inerrantist Norman Geisler, in his commentary on the
Chicago Statement on Biblical Hermeneutics, states:
Criticism
Steve Falkenberg, professor of religious psychology at
Eastern Kentucky University, observes:
Conrad Hyers , professor of comparative religion at Gustavus
Adolphus College in St. Peter, Minnesota, criticizes Biblical
literalism as:
See also
Martin Anstey
Biblical inerrancy
Biblical inspiration
Biblical literalist chronology
Science and the Bible
Application of textual criticism to religious documents
Young Earth creationism
References
1. ^ "Literalism" . Dictionary.com LLC. Retrieved August
9, 2014.
2. ^ "Literal" . Dictionary.com LLC. Retrieved August 9,
2014.
3. ^ Ryrie, Charles Caldwell (1995). Dispensationalism (Rev.
and expanded ed.). Chicago: Moody Press. p. 224.
ISBN 0-8024-2187-3 . p. 81
4. ^ Bartkowski, John (1996). "Beyond Biblical Literalism
and Inerrancy: Conservative Protestants and the
Hermeneutic Interpretation of Scripture" . Sociology of
Religion 57 (3): 259–272. doi :10.2307/3712156
5. ^ Ramm, Bernard (1970). Protestant Biblical
Interpretation . Baker Book House. ISBN 0-8010-7600-5 .
p.48
6. ^ Laurence Wood, 'Theology as History and
Hermeneutics', (2005)
7. ^ George Regas, 'Take Another Look At Your Good Book',
Los Angeles Times, February 3, 2000
8. ^ Dhyanchand Carr, 'Christian Council of Asia:
Partnership in Mission, Conference on World Mission and
the Role of Korean Churches, November 1995
9. ^ Jones, Jeffrey M. (July 8, 2011). "In U.S., 3 in 10 Say
They Take the Bible Literally" . Gallup.
10. ^ McDonald & Sanders, ed., The Canon Debate, page 4.
11. ^ A Van Der Kooij, et al. Canonization and
Decanonization: Papers Presented to the International
Conference of the Leiden Institute for the Study of Religions
(Lisor), Held at Leiden 9–10 January 1997. p. 141.
12. ^ De Genesi ad literam 1:19–20, Chapt. 19 [408], De
Genesi ad literam, 2:9
13. ^ De Sacra Virginitate, 6,6, 18, 191.
14. ^ "III. The books commonly called Apocrypha, not being
of divine inspiration, are no part of the canon of the
Scripture, and therefore are of no authority in the Church of
God, nor to be any otherwise approved, or made use of,
than other human writings." - See https://
en.wikisource.org/wiki/
The_Confession_of_Faith_of_the_Assembly_of_Divines_at_
Westminster
15. ^ Wood, Laurence W. (2005). Theology as History and
Hermeneutics: A Post-critical Conversation with
Contemporary Theology . Emeth Press. p. 27.
ISBN 9780975543559. Retrieved 2013-12-15. "Before the
eighteenth century ecclesiastical writers were unaware of the
critical historical problems of the biblical text. [...] After the
Enlightenment, the question arose if a serious theologian
can believe that the Bible reports real history."
16. ^ "biblical Literalism History" . Retrieved 2013-12-15.
"Karen Armstrong, the most popular living historian of
religion writes, 'Before the modern period, Jews, Christians
and Muslims all relished highly allegorical interpretations of
scripture. The word of God was infinite and could not be tied
down to a single interpretation. Preoccupation with literal
truth is a product of the scientific revolution, when reason
achieved such spectacular results that mythology was no
longer regarded as a valid path to knowledge.'"
17. ^ Osborne, Grant R (2006). The Hermeneutical Spiral: A
Comprehensive Introduction to Biblical Interpretation .
InterVarsity Press. ISBN 0-8308-2826-5 . p. 27
18. ^ Zuck, Roy B (1991). Basic Bible Interpretation .
Wheaton, Ill: Victor Books. p. 324. ISBN 0-89693-819-0 . p.
26
19. ^ Lewis on Miracles , Art Lindsley, Knowing & Doing;
A Teaching Quarterly for Discipleship of Heart and Mind:
C.S. LEWIS INSTITUTE, Fall 2004
20. ^ The History and Impact of the Book, The Genesis
Flood , John C. Whitcomb, Impact, Number 395, May 2006
21. ^ a b Chicago Statement on Biblical Hermeneutics With
commentary by Norman L. Geisler , Reproduced from
Explaining Hermeneutics: A Commentary on the Chicago
Statement on Biblical Hermeneutics, Oakland, California:
International Council on Biblical Inerrancy, 1983.
22. ^ The Chicago Statement on Biblical Inerrancy
(1997)
23. ^ Falkenberg, Steve (2002). "Biblical Literalism" . New
Reformation. Retrieved 9 November 2012.
24. ^ Hyers, Conrad (August 4–11, 1982). "Biblical
Literalism: Constricting the Cosmic Dance" . Christian
Century . p. 823. Retrieved 9 November 2012.
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Abdulsalam20 It is either you probably did not read what you "Copied and Pasted" from the source article you've brought in here..or you picked only the parts you want to use as a rebuttal rather than reading the entire writeup.
I think I'll help to highlight certain parts of the write up you failed to read or you probably misinterpreted.

Abdulsalam20: LAUGHING IN HAUSA LANGUAGE WAYO! U SAID BIBLE CANNOT BE UNDERSTOOD BY ANYBODY IF U GO AND MEET A CITIZEN OF THE HEBREWES AS IN THOSE WHO SPEAK HEBREW THAT IS WHAT HE WILL TRANSLATE IT FOR U EVEN BESIDE ALL THOSE VERSES ARE COPIED FROM BIBLE ENGLISH VERSION SO U MEAN I DONT UNDERSTAND ENGLISH IF I SAY ADE IS A BOY SO U MEAN IT HAS ANOTHER MEANING EVEN WHAT U SAID IS OPPOSED BY CHRISTIAN SCHOLARS......THEY SAID THE BIBLE CAN BE LITERALLY UNDERSTOOD EVIDENCE
Clarity of scripture
The vast majority of evangelical and fundamentalist
Christians hold that scripture is clear, that the basic
meaning and teachings of scripture may be understood by
the average person. It refers to the product (teachings of
scripture) rather than the process of interpretation itself
( exegesis) .
Now Exegesis means 1. Analysis of texts: The explanation or interpretation of texts, especially religious writings; 2. Interpretation of specific text: An explanation or interpretation of a specific text, especially a religious one

Martin Luther distinguished between external
and internal aspects within the clarity of scripture. External
clarity concerns the principles of hermeneutics See definition of Hermeneutics (including
grammatical aspects) and guidance into understanding
through the process of interpretation. The internal clarity
concerns illumination of the believer—that is, guidance into
understanding by the Holy Spirit One of the parts you left out, a key and integral part of understanding the Word of God . [17]
The doctrine of clarity of scripture does not mean that no
interpretative principles are necessary Wondering at all if you actually read this writeup , or that there is no
gap between the culture in which the Bible was written and
the culture of a modern reader. Instead, exegetical and
interpretative principles are utilized as part of the process of
closing that cultural gap. The doctrine does deny that the
Bible is a code to decipher, or that it cannot be understood
apart from complex academic analysis as is typical in the
historical-critical method of interpretation. I think I am going to stop here no need going further I've tried [18]
Biblical literalists believe that, unless a passage is clearly
intended as allegory, poetry, or some other genre, the Bible
should be interpreted as literal statements by the author.
Who may appropriately decide when a passage is allegorical
or literal, however, is not defined. Fundamentalists typically
treat as simple history, according to its plain sense, such
passages as the Genesis account of creation , the deluge and
Noah's ark , and the unnaturally long life-spans of the
patriarchs given in genealogies of Genesis, as well as the
strict historicity of the narrative accounts of Ancient Israel,
the supernatural interventions of God in history, and Jesus'
miracles .[19][20] Literalism does not deny that parables,
metaphors and allegory exist in the Bible, but rather relies
on contextual interpretations based on the author's
intention. [21]
As a part of the Chicago Statement on Biblical Inerrancy ,
[22] conservative Christian scholarship affirms the
following:
Noted inerrantist Norman Geisler, in his commentary on the
Chicago Statement on Biblical Hermeneutics, states:
Criticism
Steve Falkenberg, professor of religious psychology at
Eastern Kentucky University, observes:
Conrad Hyers , professor of comparative religion at Gustavus
Adolphus College in St. Peter, Minnesota, criticizes Biblical
literalism as:
See also
Martin Anstey
Biblical inerrancy
Biblical inspiration
Biblical literalist chronology
Science and the Bible
Application of textual criticism to religious documents
Young Earth creationism
References
1. ^ "Literalism" . Dictionary.com LLC. Retrieved August
9, 2014.
2. ^ "Literal" . Dictionary.com LLC. Retrieved August 9,
2014.
3. ^ Ryrie, Charles Caldwell (1995). Dispensationalism (Rev.
and expanded ed.). Chicago: Moody Press. p. 224.
ISBN 0-8024-2187-3 . p. 81
4. ^ Bartkowski, John (1996). "Beyond Biblical Literalism
and Inerrancy: Conservative Protestants and the
Hermeneutic Interpretation of Scripture" . Sociology of
Religion 57 (3): 259–272. doi :10.2307/3712156
5. ^ Ramm, Bernard (1970). Protestant Biblical
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My Friend please read again, but this time the [b]WHOLE [/b]thing

OP

Keep making yourself happy with islamic falsehood. I pity you. Steven when being stoned to death saw Jesus in heaven before he gave up the ghost. Many people including muslims who were given the grace to see heaven never came back and remained muslims. They saw the reality for themselves. None of you could tell where Muhammad is now, taking into account of those unimaginable wicked deed of his. Nobody saw him in heaven even among the muslims.

BossTtdiamonds: Abdulsalam20 It is either you probably did not read what you "Copied and Pasted" from the source article you've brought in here..or you picked only the parts you want to use as a rebuttal rather than reading the entire writeup.
I think I'll help to highlight certain parts of the write up you failed to read or you probably misinterpreted.



My Friend please read again, but this time the [b]WHOLE [/b]thing

i read it well what is in the article is that bible can be understood by an average man
also another person said if u translate it and it negate its literal meaning then it is false

God is NOTHING.
Man is NOTHING.
God is Man.
Man is God.
Op,didnt Jesus tell you and your fake men of 'God' this in John 10:34?
Why are you people rich Religiously yet so Spiritually POOR?
Why have Billions of you refuse to AWAKEN?
You must love re-incarnating evry time.lol

Abdulsalam20: i read it well what is in the article is that bible can be understood by an average man
also another person said if u translate it and it negate its literal meaning then it is false

What is in the article?

Biblical literalists believe that, unless a passage is clearly intended as allegory, poetry, or some other genre, the Bible should be interpreted as literal statements by the author. This is probably the part you are/were referring to

Who may appropriately decide when a passage is allegorical or literal, however, is not defined. This is the part that answers your question...

Abdulsalam20 no matter how you intend to put it, you cant understand what is written in the bible without proper guidance; you can try to but in the end you'll only be wrapped in a veil of confusion.
Plus if you do have questions please do ask politely I'm sure there are lots of individuals willing to give you answers; this of course is based on the mode of request.

Wow this is the first time I've seen you post in lower case, I've always seen you type using all caps... Is there a reason behind this.??

BossTtdiamonds:

What is in the article?


Abdulsalam20 no matter how you intend to put it, you cant understand what is written in the bible without proper guidance; you can try to but in the end you'll only be wrapped in a veil of confusion.
Plus if you do have questions please do ask politely I'm sure there are lots of individuals willing to give you answers; this of course is based on the mode of request.

Wow this is the first time I've seen you post in lower case, I've always seen you type using all caps... Is there a reason behind this.??

ALL THE EVIDENCE I GAVE U ARE WITH REFERENCE SO U CAN CONFIRM IF IT IS A LIE THIS ARE STATEMENT MADE BY CHRISTIAN SCCHOLARS.......AND I QUOTE THEM AS THEY SAID IT.........CONCERNING ME POSTING IS SMALL LETTER IT IS CHOICE I JUST FEEL LIKE EVEN MOST OF MY POSTS ARE MIXTURE OF BOTH AND ALSO THAT ARTICLE IS FROM WIKIPEDIA(THE LARGEST ENCYCLOPEDIA WEBSITE)........AFTER GOING HROUGH IT I JUST POST IT HERE

Abdulsalam20: ALL THE EVIDENCE I GAVE U ARE WITH REFERENCE SO U CAN CONFIRM IF IT IS A LIE THIS ARE STATEMENT MADE BY CHRISTIAN SCCHOLARS.......AND I QUOTE THEM AS THEY SAID IT.........CONCERNING ME POSTING IS SMALL LETTER IT IS CHOICE I JUST FEEL LIKE EVEN MOST OF MY POSTS ARE MIXTURE OF BOTH AND ALSO THAT ARTICLE IS FROM WIKIPEDIA(THE LARGEST ENCYCLOPEDIA WEBSITE)........AFTER GOING HROUGH IT I JUST POST IT HERE

Wikipedia is not an authentic source... I hope you know that.. Just about anyone can emend any write-up on Wikipedia.. That alone flaws out your argument.
You dont just copy, you also read to verify if the story is authentic.. In your case you just copied.
Plus thank you for answerin' my question on your choice of typing

@ BOSTDIAMOND I DONT QUOTE FROM WIKIPEDIA ONLY IF U READ MY POST I POST FROM BIBLE QURAN HADITH
AND CONCERNING YOUR CLAIM THAT WIKIPEDIA INFO IS NOT VERIFIED I WILL ADVICE YOU TO READ THE MEANING OF ENCYCLOPEDIA.........AND MOREOVER I ONLY POST FROM IT TO SUPPORT MY CLAIM AFTER QUOTING FROM THE BIBLE QURAN OR HADITH
thankz

nawa ooo nobody to prove this wrong!!!......

so nobody can prove all these wrong..........chai

Abdulsalam20: so nobody can prove all these wrong..........chai

I figure out... There's no amount of truth I spew here that 'lld change you...

Here's why we cannot come to an understandin'..

1. You copy and paste articles that do not correlate to the argument.
2. Your posts are unusually lengthy and quite annoyin'
3. You sometimes agree and oppose an argument at the same time.
4. You dont even care to Format your copied articles..and never do you care to read them.. It is really annoyin'..
5. You don't have words of your own. What you do is post commentaries that are much more annoyin' than you are..

If you agree to mend your ways.. Then I'll post the answer to the "I'll come back and answer you post I made in some thread you know 'bout"..
I will also continue tis' argument should you mend your ways...

Agreed..??

BossTtdiamonds:

I figure out... There's no amount of truth I spew here that 'lld change you...

Here's why we cannot come to an understandin'..

1. You copy and paste articles that do not correlate to the argument.
2. Your posts are unusually lengthy and quite annoyin'
3. You sometimes agree and oppose an argument at the same time.
4. You dont even care to Format your copied articles..and never do you care to read them.. It is really annoyin'..
5. You don't have words of your own. What you do is post commentaries that are much more annoyin' than you are..

If you agree to mend your ways.. Then I'll post the answer to the "I'll come back and answer you post I made in some thread you know 'bout"..
I will also continue tis' argument should you mend your ways...

Agreed..??

*Your first point so u can accuse me of derailing you can check my profile to check who derail first its your brothers when they cant answer my question they will bring up a question to cover it up and since no question that did not have response in islam so i have to respond to them for example my thread about going to hajj in the bible none of them could prove me wrong but they kept on bringing another question and alhamdulillah i answer them
*u said i copy withou screening then if i do that i will probably have copied from answeringislam.ofg or wiiislam.....so u wan to say that u dont make research online
* u said my post are toolong u should probably at least answer few of them........u say i never type one my self maybe because u see that my articles are too long so u think i cant type it typing is part of my hobby so typing many posts is nothing to me
so i believe all what u posted is falacy
u caim nothing u posted will change me SURE because none of you have never answer my question and i have always prove you wrong
i dont beg you to answer those questions if you cant answer it just leave it.........

Abdulsalam20:
*Your first point so u can accuse me of derailing you can check my profile to check who derail first its your brothers when they cant answer my question they will bring up a question to cover it up and since no question that did not have response in islam so i have to respond to them for example my thread about going to hajj in the bible none of them could prove me wrong but they kept on bringing another question and alhamdulillah i answer them

I do not quite agree with this.. They ask you questions, you give answers that in no way partains/relates to the questions.. Or sometimes you give response without concrete evidence to back up your claim/assertions... An example is when they asked you for evidence of Muhammad performed a miracle.. You went on to post an entirely useless articles that ended up proving that Muhammad did not infact perform a miracle all through his stay on earth

*u said i copy withou screening then if i do that i will probably have copied from answeringislam.ofg or wiiislam.....so u wan to say that u dont make research online

Yes we all make research online and we are intelligent enough to write only on the major talking points. If we can summarize our write-ups without degrading or limiting the details, how come you can't.
Honestly I don't even bother to read the unusual lengthy post you copy and paste. You don't even bother to proof read, leavin' all the fallacies and all things that contradicts the normal standard of reasonin'..

You left out the fact your articles are badly formatted


* u said my post are toolong u should probably at least answer few of them........u say i never type one my self maybe because u see that my articles are too long so u think i cant type it typing is part of my hobby so typing many posts is nothing to me
so i believe all what u posted is falacy

I am beginin' to assert the you smoke weed in some way. The one's I've tried to read that ended up bein' trash as usual.. I asked of you questions..and you didn't give answers that conforms to the normal standard of reasonin'... Is typin' part of anyone's hobby.. So you want to argue and you're too lazy to type..
Just how pathetic do you think you sound..??


u caim nothing u posted will change me SURE because none of you have never answer my question and i have always prove you wrong
i dont beg you to answer those questions if you cant answer it just leave it.........

You don't beg to be answered, yet you have two posts saying "So Nobody can prove this wrong".
And we do answer your questions, you only don't seem to comprehend simple amazing facts. That's because there's a part of you clouded with unreason..

for the sake of bein' just.. I will answer your question of "Where Muhammad was written in the bible.. In my answer I will teach you three things..

1. Teach you how to summarize..

2. Teach you how to format your post.

3. Teach you how to conform to the normal standards of logic.

BossTtdiamonds:

for the sake of bein' just.. I will answer your question of "Where Muhammad was written in the bible.. In my answer I will teach you three things..

1. Teach you how to summarize..

2. Teach you how to format your post.

3. Teach you how to conform to the normal standards of logic.

see goon i beg nswer the question or dont quote me again nairaland nitwit
u claim i didnt post any miracle I POSTED UP TO SIX MIRACLES AND the next question you bring is that why is it not in the quran abi u forget?........and i gave u the difference etween quran and hadith.........now u dey lie smh
i think i have to adopt the principle of not arguing with nairaland nitwit

Abdulsalam20:
see goon i beg nswer the question or dont quote me again nairaland nitwit
u claim i didnt post any miracle I POSTED UP TO SIX MIRACLES AND the next question you bring is that why is it not in the quran abi u forget?........and i gave u the difference etween quran and hadith.........now u dey lie smh
i think i have to adopt the principle of not arguing with nairaland nitwit

@bolded.. Just shows how much unreason clouds your Judgement..

"I don't argue with NL nitwits" I have heard this BS b4.. A usual escape pod ya'll tend to fall to when you hit a brick wall... That seems to be the idea that pop's in your head and that of your Muslim folks..
It's evident ya'll some some kindA weed..

You clam to have posted sources from the Hadith..

Let me also tell you a miracle Someone in my Area performed..
The first time was on Monday morning. I woke up
thinking it was one day until the weekend. It seemed
impossible to top that level of disappointment but
about an hour ago I was psyched to go to bed late
watching TV only to realize I have to wake up
tomorrow morning.
See anyone could comeup with a pointless story...

BossTtdiamonds:

@bolded.. Just shows how much unreason clouds your Judgement..

"I don't argue with NL nitwits" I have heard this BS b4.. A usual escape pod ya'll tend to fall to when you hit a brick wall... That seems to be the idea that pop's in your head and that of your Muslim folks..
It's evident ya'll some some kindA weed..

You clam to have posted sources from the Hadith..

Let me also tell you a miracle Someone in my Area performed..
The first time was on Monday morning. I woke up
thinking it was one day until the weekend. It seemed
impossible to top that level of disappointment but
about an hour ago I was psyched to go to bed late
watching TV only to realize I have to wake up
tomorrow morning.
See anyone could comeup with a pointless story...

i implore you to go an read it again sir
if truly you want to learn..........read it nd tell me which one is etranous is it the splitting of the moon o replacing a eye that is about to remove or the mltiplication of food or light to guide companions pls reer tothe thred and prove me wrong in arguemen we dont loose we eitheir win or learn

Abdulsalam20:
i implore you to go an read it again sir
if truly you want to learn..........read it nd tell me which one is etranous is it the splitting of the moon o replacing a eye that is about to remove or the mltiplication of food or light to guide companions pls reer tothe thred and prove me wrong in arguemen we dont loose we eitheir win or learn

I pointed out the fact that I was disappointed with in the article.. I implore you to walk back to that thread and read what I said was wrong with the article.. Ain't no way in a female prison am I goin' to read that BS all over again.

Lol y do ppl quote galatians 3....i mean Paul called them fools cos Jesus' crucifixion happrned before their very eyes yet they were still committing sins n doing wrong things........btw salvation is very true
3 You foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? Before your very eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed as crucified. 2 I would like to learn just one thing from you: Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by believing what you heard? 3 Are you so foolish? After beginning by means of the Spirit, are you now trying to finish by means of the flesh?[a] 4 Have you experienced[b] so much in vain—if it really was in vain? 5 So again I ask, does God give you his Spirit and work miracles among you by the works of the law, or by your believing what you heard? 6 So also Abraham “believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness.”[c]7 Understand, then, that those who have faith are children of Abraham.8 Scripture foresaw that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, and announced the gospel in advance to Abraham: “All nations will be blessed through you.”[d] 9 So those who rely on faith are blessed along with Abraham, the man of faith.

abdusalam20. I dont want to reply this thread because you post is to lengthy,if you want reply,summarise it let the viewer be able to read and understand.

Let start like this:can you Explain salvation in islam? Islam talk about good deed, can you bribe God with your good deed?

Islam teaches us that salvation is attainable through the
worship of God alone. A person must believe in God and follow
His commandments. This is the same message taught by all the
Prophets including Moses and Jesus. There is only One worthy
of worship. One God, alone without partners, sons, or
daughters. Salvation and thus eternal happiness can be
achieved by sincere worship.
In addition to this Islam teaches us that human beings are born without sin and are naturally
inclined to worship God alone (without any intermediaries). To retain this state of sinlessness
humankind must only follow God’s commandments and strive to live a righteous life. If one falls into
sin, all that is required is sincere repentance followed by seeking God’s forgiveness. When a person
sins he or she pushes themselves away from the mercy of God, however sincere repentance brings a
person back to God.
“Those who remember God (always, and in prayers) standing, sitting, and
lying down on their sides, and think deeply about the creation of the heavens
and the earth, (saying), "Our Lord! You have not created (all) this without
purpose, glory to You! (Exalted are You above all that they associate with
You as partners). Give us salvation from the torment of the Fire.” (Quran
3:191)

According to Christian doctrine, humankind is considered wayward and sinful. The doctrine of
original sin states that humankind is born already tainted by the sin of Adam and therefore
separated from God, and in need of a redeemer. and it further state that jesus have come to die for our sin and we have to accept jesus as lord
so the theme of the topic is
*jesus is not dead
*jesus is not lord
*paul teachings are false

Paul said:
"And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless
and so is your faith." ( 1Co 15:14 ) (N.I.V)
"And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are
still in your sins." ( 1Corinthians 15:17 ) (N.I.V)
i will insha ALLAH EXPANTIATE MORE TOMORROW

debraleey: Lol y do ppl quote galatians 3....i mean Paul called them fools cos Jesus' crucifixion happrned before their very eyes yet they were still committing sins n doing wrong things........btw salvation is very true
3 You foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? Before your very eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed as crucified. 2 I would like to learn just one thing from you: Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by believing what you heard? 3 Are you so foolish? After beginning by means of the Spirit, are you now trying to finish by means of the flesh?[a] 4 Have you experienced[b] so much in vain—if it really was in vain? 5 So again I ask, does God give you his Spirit and work miracles among you by the works of the law, or by your believing what you heard? 6 So also Abraham “believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness.”[c]7 Understand, then, that those who have faith are children of Abraham.8 Scripture foresaw that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, and announced the gospel in advance to Abraham: “All nations will be blessed through you.”[d] 9 So those who rely on faith are blessed along with Abraham, the man of faith.

PLS READ THE VERSE WELL PAUL WAS ASKING THEM THAT WHO WITNESS WHEN JESUS WAS CRUCIFIED
“O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should
not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been
evidently set forth, crucified among you?” (Galatians 3:1) –
(K.J.V)
I quoted it according to how paul write it

Look, Paul does not only refer Galatians as fools but, any
person who believes that Jesus was crucified is also a fool.
if you still dont understand the verse i implore you to give it to a english teacher or you should get pidgin bible