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Re: Why Are There So Many Atheists In Nigeria Nowadays? by asalimpo(m): 11:27am On Sep 14, 2014
finofaya: Okies.

Here's what you said:

What that means is that a system that addresses, for example, work ethics alone is a religion. You said it bro, not me. So once again, the code of conduct for public officers is a religious text according to your well thought out definition.

Let's assume you meant to say:

"Any system that prescribes guidelines/dictates rules for handling all of the above issues is a religion."

Given this definition, and assuming that it is correct, I would like to know which religion is responsible for the CoC for public officers. The CoC clearly addresses work ethics, and you say work ethics is one of the areas that religion superintends. Unless it is possible for a 'system' to provide for work ethics without being part of a larger 'system' which you have chosen to call religion, the CoC must be a part of some religion. Which is it?

asalimpo:

Any system prescribing how man should relate with his fellow man,
his relationship and responsibility to his leaders ,community and government,
his work ethics,
Adresses the issue of life(how it began), why we are here, where we go at death,
marraige relationships,
- responsibility of spouses
- work ethics
- money issues
- employee/employer issues
what to do when worried, offended, provoked
, when you lose a loved one and are grieving,
- what to do when sick
etc and many more.

the Coc isnt a religion or part of a religious system because it isnt comprehensive. It is not part of a singular comprehensive/broad system tht commands /instructs on major issues of life.
Its scope of applicability is limited. It doesnt cover all workers or work situations.
It is a more volatile and temporary system that a religious system.
Religious systems dont exclude creation of non-religious/smaller subsystems . A religious system is a foundation, more smaller subsystems can b built on it.
E.g in islam, islamic banking is a money system building on the tenets of islam.
Democracy is a subsystem building on hybrid foundations of christianity and atheism.
All prescriptive subsystems, build on (but dont extend) religious systems.
Russian government is built on atheism.
Communism/socialism as a philosophy builds on atheism.
Eventually all government bcome religious and hav to deal with the issue of God. E.g China, killing christians /banning christian meetings.
Re: Why Are There So Many Atheists In Nigeria Nowadays? by asalimpo(m): 11:27am On Sep 14, 2014
finofaya: Okies.

Here's what you said:



What that means is that a system that addresses, for example, work ethics alone is a religion. You said it bro, not me. So once again, the code of conduct for public officers is a religious text according to your well thought out definition.

Let's assume you meant to say:

"Any system that prescribes guidelines/dictates rules for handling all of the above issues is a religion."

Given this definition, and assuming that it is correct, I would like to know which religion is responsible for the CoC for public officers. The CoC clearly addresses work ethics, and you say work ethics is one of the areas that religion superintends. Unless it is possible for a 'system' to provide for work ethics without being part of a larger 'system' which you have chosen to call religion, the CoC must be a part of some religion. Which is it?
Re: Why Are There So Many Atheists In Nigeria Nowadays? by urheme: 12:51pm On Sep 14, 2014
logicboy01: 1) Religion has failed Nigeria

2) More and more Nigerians are travelling abroad and seeing how Europe and China/Japan are progressing without much belief in God

3) More and more Nigerian have access to information on the internet

4) THERE IS NO EVIDENCE FOR GOD

Religion has failed you not nigeria,

An unbelief in God is not the reason why europe and china or any other country progresses; technologically they are advanced,

Internet does not teach you everything, you need to experience some life lessons, pains, love, frustration, hunger, prison, death etc.

God is self Evident.
Re: Why Are There So Many Atheists In Nigeria Nowadays? by logicboy01: 4:45pm On Sep 14, 2014
urheme:

Religion has failed you not nigeria,

An unbelief in God is not the reason why europe and china or any other country progresses; technologically they are advanced,

Internet does not teach you everything, you need to experience some life lessons, pains, love, frustration, hunger, prison, death etc.

God is self Evident.




Religion has failed Nigeria. Our pastors are hypocrite adulterers, tithe scammers and frauds. Government had to order churches not to try ebola miracle healings. We have boko haram and Almajiris destroying the north. Religious preachers preaching ignorance from the pulpit. Politicians stealing and plundering, yet offered the front seat at churches.


Actually, Europe has progressed beyond God. When the European saw the Ebola, they made protocols to prevent an epidemic. Fools in Nigeria were busy praying and paying tithes until it spread from Liberia.


God is not self evident. The sun itself is self evident- no one argues that the sun doesnt exists.

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Re: Why Are There So Many Atheists In Nigeria Nowadays? by Ukutsgp(m): 8:36pm On Sep 14, 2014
logicboy01:


Religion has failed Nigeria. Our pastors are hypocrite adulterers, tithe scammers and frauds. Government had to order churches not to try ebola miracle healings. We have boko haram and Almajiris destroying the north. Religious preachers preaching ignorance from the pulpit. Politicians stealing and plundering, yet offered the front seat at churches.


Actually, Europe has progressed beyond God. When the European saw the Ebola, they made protocols to prevent an epidemic. Fools in Nigeria were busy praying and paying tithes until it spread from Liberia.


God is not self evident. The sun itself is self evident- no one argues that the sun doesnt exists.
u are just ranting. keep deceiving urself.

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Re: Why Are There So Many Atheists In Nigeria Nowadays? by Ukutsgp(m): 8:38pm On Sep 14, 2014
who order d sun to rise and to set? isn't it GOD?
Re: Why Are There So Many Atheists In Nigeria Nowadays? by logicboy01: 8:42pm On Sep 14, 2014
Ukutsgp: who order d sun to rise and to set? isn't it GOD?


It is Zeus. Ode

The sun doesnt rise or set. It has its own orbit.

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Re: Why Are There So Many Atheists In Nigeria Nowadays? by Ukutsgp(m): 8:47pm On Sep 14, 2014
logicboy01:


It is Zeus. Ode

The sun doesnt rise or set. It has its own orbit.

it can only be GOD. who place the heavenly bodies in that orderly fashion? the answer is God. Genesis 1.
Re: Why Are There So Many Atheists In Nigeria Nowadays? by logicboy01: 8:54pm On Sep 14, 2014
Ukutsgp: it can only be GOD. who place the heavenly bodies in that orderly fashion? the answer is God. Genesis 1.


And what gives you the idea that the heavenly bodies are in orderly fashion? You must be very ignorant of the failed galaxies and planets in our universe.

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Re: Why Are There So Many Atheists In Nigeria Nowadays? by Ukutsgp(m): 9:03pm On Sep 14, 2014
logicboy01:


And what gives you the idea that the heavenly bodies are in orderly fashion? You must be very ignorant of the failed galaxies and planets in our universe.
why is d earth still it its location till today? why isn't it been displaced from it original place God has placed it?
Re: Why Are There So Many Atheists In Nigeria Nowadays? by logicboy01: 9:17pm On Sep 14, 2014
Ukutsgp: why is d earth still it its location till today? why isn't it been displaced from it original place God has placed it?


The earth has slightly moved off course......
Re: Why Are There So Many Atheists In Nigeria Nowadays? by lastmessenger: 7:33am On Sep 15, 2014
ifeness:

Yes you are what you think. You are one of the millions of guilibles souls who have given so much to the rich pastors.

People like you make me want to do business with christians. All i need is hold a bible and your brain is already dead.
Why not try doing doing business with me and find out.
I still say it again that mind is everything and that you become what you think.
You become an athiest when you think there is no God and same goes to the Muslim who think that Muhammad is their Allah messenger.
For me I think that Christ is the son of God and that has automatically made me a christain .
Re: Why Are There So Many Atheists In Nigeria Nowadays? by Ukutsgp(m): 9:57am On Sep 15, 2014
logicboy01:


The earth has slightly moved off course......
u dnt hv proof. at least u said slightly which is insignificant.
Re: Why Are There So Many Atheists In Nigeria Nowadays? by asalimpo(m): 11:06am On Sep 15, 2014
logicboy01:
Religion has failed Nigeria. Our pastors are hypocrite adulterers, tithe scammers and frauds. Government had to order churches not to try ebola miracle healings. We have boko haram and Almajiris destroying the north. Religious preachers preaching ignorance from the pulpit. Politicians stealing and plundering, yet offered the front seat at churches.


Actually, Europe has progressed beyond God. When the European saw the Ebola, they made protocols to prevent an epidemic. Fools in Nigeria were busy praying and paying tithes until it spread from Liberia.


God is not self evident. The sun itself is self evident- no one argues that the sun doesnt exists.

taking God outta the question and replacing him with chance is mor unreasonable.
Why is there a sun to warm the earth in the first place?
Earth to b inhaitable needs light and warmth and a sun just happened to *mistakenly* be made from nothing!

Why does the earth rotate around the sun?
- so tht all sides of the earth are adequately warmed.
*why doesnt it mistakenly malfunction and just for a day stop spinning*

*a mistake made the earth and a mistake keeps it working perfectly!*

why is there an ozone layer over the earth? *though its fast being ruined by man*
a
*
mistake created earth, then created a protective layer to shield it from the sun's uv rays!
*

Why did the sun appear before the earth?
Mistakes by nature are disorderly ,yet the logical thing wouldve been as it turned out: light before planets.
*how did chance get this right on the first try?*
Re: Why Are There So Many Atheists In Nigeria Nowadays? by urheme: 11:23am On Sep 15, 2014
You breath air from the environment, you don,t know the shape, colour and size of the oxygen you breath, physically, you can't it catch it with bare hands but you feel it because you are alive.

logicboy01:
God is not self evident. The sun itself is self evident- no one argues that the sun doesnt exists.

So your line of argument is that the sun exist because i see light, the blind man cannot see it but can feel it
You can also tell me that air does not exist because you can neither see nor touch it.

You have faith in things that you have not phisically seen because some scientist told you that such a thing exist.

Nobody can show you God, and you can only convience your self that there is God or not,look within your self and decide
Re: Why Are There So Many Atheists In Nigeria Nowadays? by asalimpo(m): 11:23am On Sep 15, 2014
logicboy01:
Religion has failed Nigeria. Our pastors are hypocrite adulterers, tithe scammers and frauds. Government had to order churches not to try ebola miracle healings. We have boko haram and Almajiris destroying the north. Religious preachers preaching ignorance from the pulpit. Politicians stealing and plundering, yet offered the front seat at churches.


Actually, Europe has progressed beyond God. When the European saw the Ebola, they made protocols to prevent an epidemic. Fools in Nigeria were busy praying and paying tithes until it spread from Liberia.


God is not self evident. The sun itself is self evident- no one argues that the sun doesnt exists.

taking God outta the question and replacing him with chance is mor unreasonable.
Why is there a sun to warm the earth in the first place?
Earth to b inhaitable needs light and warmth and a sun just happened to *mistakenly* be made from nothing!

Why does the earth rotate around the sun?
- so tht all sides of the earth are adequately warmed.
*why doesnt it mistakenly malfunction and just for a day stop spinning*

*a mistake made the earth and a mistake keeps it working perfectly!*

why is there an ozone layer over the earth? *though its fast being ruined by man*
a
*
mistake created earth, then created a protective layer to shield it from the sun's uv rays!
*

Why did the sun appear before the earth?
Mistakes by nature are disorderly ,yet the logical thing wouldve been as it turned out: light before planets.
*how did chance get this right on the first try?*
in all the years of the planet's existence, theyve been earthquakes, floods,tsunamis terrible natural disaster but
none has been serious enough to completely topple this planet. They come and go like serious downpours but old earth still keeps rolling!.
If d earth is a mistaken creation, then over and over again it should collapse into choas and be naturally unstable. It shouldnt b resilient and sturdy like a battle tank. The oceans should overflow their banks and wipe out all life (afterall,ocean mass is greater than land mass).
Molten lava from the core of the earth should erupt all over the world and roast the surface to ashes.
Orderliness should b the exception not otherwise!

If the earth and the planets emerged from a mistake, how come it operates more orderly and punctually than intelligent human systems?
How can a mistake be smarter than man?
*the sun rises at a set time,
the seasons are punctual year by year, night fall comes at a set time
. Gravity isnt flippant.
Compare to consistency of human organisations? Those tht ar consistent learned to b after lots of trial and error. But chance got it right the firsr time!*
Re: Why Are There So Many Atheists In Nigeria Nowadays? by urheme: 4:23pm On Sep 15, 2014
Ukutsgp: u dnt hv proof. at least u said slightly which is insignificant.

He was told and he believed them, he is nolonger logicboy but hearsayboy

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Re: Why Are There So Many Atheists In Nigeria Nowadays? by logicboy01: 5:08pm On Sep 15, 2014
urheme: You breath air from the environment, you don,t know the shape, colour and size of the oxygen you breath, physically, you can't it catch it with bare hands but you feel it because you are alive.



So your line of argument is that the sun exist because i see light, the blind man cannot see it but can feel it
You can also tell me that air does not exist because you can neither see nor touch it.

You have faith in things that you have not phisically seen because some scientist told you that such a thing exist.

Nobody can show you God, and you can only convience your self that there is God or not,look within your self and decide


I feel and breathe in air. You are just plain ignorant
Re: Why Are There So Many Atheists In Nigeria Nowadays? by logicboy01: 5:09pm On Sep 15, 2014
asalimpo:

taking God outta the question and replacing him with chance is mor unreasonable.
Why is there a sun to warm the earth in the first place?
Earth to b inhaitable needs light and warmth and a sun just happened to *mistakenly* be made from nothing!

Why does the earth rotate around the sun?
- so tht all sides of the earth are adequately warmed.
*why doesnt it mistakenly malfunction and just for a day stop spinning*

*a mistake made the earth and a mistake keeps it working perfectly!*

why is there an ozone layer over the earth? *though its fast being ruined by man*
a
*
mistake created earth, then created a protective layer to shield it from the sun's uv rays!
*

Why did the sun appear before the earth?
Mistakes by nature are disorderly ,yet the logical thing wouldve been as it turned out: light before planets.
*how did chance get this right on the first try?*
in all the years of the planet's existence, theyve been earthquakes, floods,tsunamis terrible natural disaster but
none has been serious enough to completely topple this planet. They come and go like serious downpours but old earth still keeps rolling!.
If d earth is a mistaken creation, then over and over again it should collapse into choas and be naturally unstable. It shouldnt b resilient and sturdy like a battle tank. The oceans should overflow their banks and wipe out all life (afterall,ocean mass is greater than land mass).
Molten lava from the core of the earth should erupt all over the world and roast the surface to ashes.
Orderliness should b the exception not otherwise!

If the earth and the planets emerged from a mistake, how come it operates more orderly and punctually than intelligent human systems?
How can a mistake be smarter than man?
*the sun rises at a set time,
the seasons are punctual year by year, night fall comes at a set time
. Gravity isnt flippant.
Compare to consistency of human organisations? Those tht ar consistent learned to b after lots of trial and error. But chance got it right the firsr time!*



grin

you must not have heard of the failed galaxies and planets

You must not realise that the earth is bout 70% water....most of it is salt water....can you ive in water or drink salt water?

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Re: Why Are There So Many Atheists In Nigeria Nowadays? by urheme: 5:35pm On Sep 15, 2014
logicboy01:


I feel and breathe in air. You are just plain ignorant


And I feel the presence of God,
you are too proud and too deformed to know that the air you breath and feel is an evidence of the existence of the one who created it.

Logicboy my foot

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Re: Why Are There So Many Atheists In Nigeria Nowadays? by logicboy01: 5:53pm On Sep 15, 2014
urheme:


And I feel the presence of God,
you are too proud and too deformed to know that the air you breath and feel is an evidence of the existence of the one who created it.

Logicboy my foot


I know what air feels like when I am running or there is a breeze. It is light and cool on the skin

What does God feel like?

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Re: Why Are There So Many Atheists In Nigeria Nowadays? by urheme: 6:03pm On Sep 15, 2014
logicboy01:


I know what air feels like when I am running or there is a breeze. It is light and cool on the skin

What does God feel like?




Air
Re: Why Are There So Many Atheists In Nigeria Nowadays? by NativeBoy: 6:19pm On Sep 15, 2014
logicboy01:


Religion has failed Nigeria. Our pastors are hypocrite adulterers, tithe scammers and frauds. Government had to order churches not to try ebola miracle healings. We have boko haram and Almajiris destroying the north. Religious preachers preaching ignorance from the pulpit. Politicians stealing and plundering, yet offered the front seat at churches.


Actually, Europe has progressed beyond God. When the European saw the Ebola, they made protocols to prevent an epidemic. Fools in Nigeria were busy praying and paying tithes until it spread from Liberia.


God is not self evident. The sun itself is self evident- no one argues that the sun doesnt exists.

I won't argue with you about a lot of scamming being carried out in the name of God in Nigeria. However, your argument is faulty when you make a comparison between Europe and Africa and blame God for the disparity in response to the Ebola outbreak. We Africans are reaping what we sow. The inability to fight corruption, the lack of serious conviction to improve society, our collective cowardice to initiate revolution, etc. That's the difference.

To address your other point about Europe moving beyond God. Yes, Europe is largely secular now, but Europe's situation today didn't happen today did it? As we all know, Europe was built on a Judeo-Christian foundation. Secularism cannot now take the credit and I hope you were not implying that. Moreover, when Europe wasn't secular, did that stop them from making advances that improved quality of life? The answer is No. In fact, in all areas of life, from art to music to medicine, etc, people were making advances as a result of their service and devotion to God.

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Re: Why Are There So Many Atheists In Nigeria Nowadays? by Nobody: 6:33pm On Sep 15, 2014
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Re: Why Are There So Many Atheists In Nigeria Nowadays? by urheme: 7:00pm On Sep 15, 2014
Xcapist: And



grin grin
Market strategies.
Na cat fish?

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Re: Why Are There So Many Atheists In Nigeria Nowadays? by Nobody: 7:33pm On Sep 15, 2014
Xcapist. grin
Re: Why Are There So Many Atheists In Nigeria Nowadays? by Lordlexyy: 9:43pm On Sep 15, 2014
Acidosis:

They have no voice is the society; just bunch of religious rebels cool

Their voice is only heard on few threads on Nairaland sad We have less than 1million active users on Nl. Less than the population of Nigerians living in Agege
cheesy

Most of them will profess Christianity in real life. Don't be decieved; some of them still attend Church services. They play gospel songs, attend Church weddings, do Church naming, burials, etc.

I can bet anything on the fact that most of them have Bibles in their homes, they celebrate Christmas, fill Christianity on important forms and documents.

Some of them were forcefully ejected from the Church after series of attrocities. Some stole Church funds; on post-jail terms, they joined Nairaland in order to make ther grievances known to those that care grin sad I have seen many cases smiley

Some, especially the females, became atheists because their "loving" atheist boyfriends convinced them, and you know age is not on their side. You know women are susceptible...

Some left the Church because they felt God will buy them private jets after sowing few change
grin

The most bigotic of all are those who joined atheism because they feel 'Amelica' is GREAT AND BEAUTIFUL because American citizens do not believe in God grin grin grin These fellas are sooo funny...
They need to be reminded that world largest Churches/Congregations can be found in US, South Korea, etc.

They watch few black hollywood niggas, and then conclude that America is Non-religious
grin

These guys would do anything to watch the likes of American Joel Osteen, German Reinhard Bonnke, but at the sound of T.B Joshua, ahahaha, their self-induced inferiority complex set in.


Christians should keep praying for them, do not argue, cos you will never win; and even if you win the argument; how about the soul.
smiley



*Basic addition
You just said it all. Just some confused, arrogant rebels trying to outsmart God. Nairaland and the arguement like remains their biggest consolation were they take solace and relieve theirselves of hate. After all, who cares about the ignorance they display.
Re: Why Are There So Many Atheists In Nigeria Nowadays? by Weah96: 4:54am On Sep 16, 2014
plaetton: I really don't think that anyone believes in god, especially the people who claim and shout that they do, such as the op.

You're right. Muslims at least act like they believe though. I mean, if I had evidence of a God, I too would do as told.

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