swezenberg:

So tell me what you think is responsible for all these.

swezenberg:

You need to go and read more about past American leaders. Their formost presidents and how they gave so much to prayers before going to wars. You think so help me God and those phrases just came into their anthem yesterday. Or you think America's friendship with Israel started yesterday. As for Nigeria, you may not understand the happenings already expected of such nations who have given in to shedding of innocent blood in the name of politics and money. So the Nigeria you knew 30 years ago is the Nigeria you have now. Even if you don't believe in God the signs are there and no other book had so much predicted the happening at these times like the Holy Bible.

Sweetlemon: Let's look at it this way; America is a religious country. In fact they believe they owe all what they are worth to God (And I strongly believe this is one of the main reasons why America has remained world number one power for so long despite all the attacks and attempts to change this)
Yet they know where to draw the line between being religious and being fanatic. They know when religion should come in and when it shouldn't. That to me, is worth emulating.

The military is a sensitive part of any government. The strength of a county's military determines the overall strength of that country. They are wise enough to know that only God gives absolute victory, hence forcing their soldiers to acknowledge this power. Nothing wrong there at all.

rhymz: Jeez!!! what an ignorant MOFO! No intelligent commentator should take this kid seriously, he obviously doesn't know and does not know he does not know, why argue with such a simpleton, abeg make una leave to get drunk with his ignorance......what a MALADY.

cold:
Ok your god is responsible. Hope you happy now?

rhymz: Nothing wrong because it is a religion you believe in. Hope you will say the same if you are asked to plead allegiance to spaghetti monster, God of the otula people. It all boils down yo choice and accommodating other people's differing beliefs, they don't have to align with yours before you see them as worthy of respect and tolerance.

swezenberg:

That means you don't even gave a clue to what is responsible.

You are like this. Someone came up and said gravity makes bodies fall to the ground when they are thrown up then you come to say it is a lie. Then they ask you what is your proof then you say you have no proof.

logicboy01:


The orignial american dollar bills didnt have "In God we trust". It was later put there

Funny how ignorant many christians are.


Please, go and read about freedom from religion in the US constitution. Dont be ignorant

cold:
Again,let us give your sky daddy all the glory for all these happenings. He is indeed an awesome god

Sweetlemon: Let's look at it this way; America is a religious country. In fact they believe they owe all what they are worth to God (And I strongly believe this is one of the main reasons why America has remained world number one power for so long despite all the attacks and attempts to change this)
Yet they know where to draw the line between being religious and being fanatic. They know when religion should come in and when it shouldn't. That to me, is worth emulating.

The military is a sensitive part of any government. The strength of a county's military determines the overall strength of that country. They are wise enough to know that only God gives absolute victory, hence forcing their soldiers to acknowledge this power. Nothing wrong there at all.

swezenberg:

Dear Missy. Why did you say shame on USAF. It has always been there no one military man can come and change it.

It is just like a Nigerian Soldier saying he will never say 'so help me God' Then let him find a country who does not believe in such to pay his allegiance.

okzcorp:

I knew you will be running to use Bill to corroborte ya case, but trust me to disappoint you. Bill is a Deist. He is aware of God's existence.
I need a stronger case.

zicky: . You just expose your foolishness, were your fore-fathers not worshiping a god before the white came to African, was the god black or white ?

Sweetlemon: Let's look at it this way; America is a religious country. In fact they believe they owe all what they are worth to God (And I strongly believe this is one of the main reasons why America has remained world number one power for so long despite all the attacks and attempts to change this)
Yet they know where to draw the line between being religious and being fanatic. They know when religion should come in and when it shouldn't. That to me, is worth emulating.

The military is a sensitive part of any government. The strength of a county's military determines the overall strength of that country. They are wise enough to know that only God gives absolute victory, hence forcing their soldiers to acknowledge this power. Nothing wrong there at all.

musicwriter:

Do you call it "forcing"?.

Please note that nobody is being forced here. The rule whether constitutional or conventional states that everybody must say "so help me God". Whoever doesn't do this is not obeying the rules. To me this's a question of having the soldier obey the rules.

swezenberg:

Now that it has been put there then he should stop spending it.

Boko haram hates western education yet they use Armoured personal carriers and western weapons. Is he not sounding like them.

MissMeiya: Watching Nigerians insist on points of American history is... strange.

They teach us US history from the time we enter primary school. I even took Advanced Placement US Government & Politics and AP US History in high school, but I am learning new things on this thread. *popcorn*

logicboy01:



You must really feel special to live in the USA

MissMeiya:

You seem to have missed the point.

Let me break it down for you:

"Watching Australians insist on points of Russian history is... strange."

Is the analogy making sense to you now? Don't let your bitterness blind you next time.

musicwriter:

Do you call it "forcing"?.

Please note that nobody is being forced here. The rule whether constitutional or conventional states that everybody must say "so help me God". Whoever doesn't do this is not obeying the rules. To me this's a question of having the soldier obey the rules.

logicboy01:


Im.becilic post

1) America is not number one on many issues eg health, education, development, economy

2)America is one of worst countries in the West when it comes to religious freedom

3) Ask any American that can tell you of their "victory" in Vietnam and Afghanistan

logicboy01:


And you missed mine.

Because you live in America, you cant understand that the USA is a Global stage. Every country in the world watches American politics because it affects most other countries.....we have many global businesses tied to the price of a dollar.

So, it is not surprising that Nigerians or Ghanaians or Aurstralians insist on points of American hstory/politics

logicboy01:

You must really feel special to live in the USA

Sweetlemon:

Yeah right!

That's why most people want an American passport?

MissMeiya:

That was your point?



Are you sure?

Apatheist:
I'd ignore you, but I couldn't resist:
The USA is NOT a Christian nation but a secular one.

The Constitution of the United States was adopted on September 17, 1787 and went into effect on March 4, 1789. There is no mention of god in the Constitution. In fact, the first amendment states that “Congress shall make NO law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances”.

From the founding fathers:
“In 1775, he ordered that his troops not show anti-Catholic sentiments by burning the pope in effigy on Guy Fawkes
Night. When hiring workmen for Mount Vernon, he wrote to his agent, “If they be good workmen, they may be from Asia, Africa, or Europe; they may be Mohammedans [Muslims], Jews, or Christians of any sect, or they may be Atheists.“
John Adams —Christian, Deist

“Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legislative powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should “make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,” thus building a wall of separation between church and State”
--Thomas Jefferson

“The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg”
--Thomas Jefferson

“If anything pass in a religious meeting seditiously and contrary to the public peace, let it be punished in the same manner and no otherwise as it had happened in a fair or market”
James Madison–

"The civil Government, though bereft of everything like an associated hierarchy, possesses the requisite stability, and performs its functions with complete success, whilst the number, the industry, and the morality of the priesthood, and the devotion of the people, have been manifestly increased by the total separation of the church from the State (Letter to
Robert Walsh, Mar. 2, 1819).

Strongly guarded as is the separation between religion and & Gov’t in the Constitution of the United States the danger of encroachment by Ecclesiastical Bodies, may be illustrated by precedents already furnished in their short history (Detached
Memoranda, circa 1820).

"Every new and successful example, therefore, of a perfect separation between the ecclesiastical and civil matters, is of importance; and I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in showing that religion and Government will both exist in greater purity the less they are mixed together (Letter to Edward Livingston, July 10,
1822).
--Benjamin Franklin.

masonkz:

Lol.

How about Mark Zuckerberg or even the owner of Nairaland?

I find it stup.id that I'm replying you on this. If you really think believing in a God is linked with being successful...then explain the poverty ravaging many parts of the most religious places in the world.

fairari022: sir, with due respect, the US constitution does not in all ways apply to those under the uniform code. when you swear the oath of allegiance, in the end you must say "help me God" . i have done this before and it has no restriction to anybody. athought, after then you can choose whether or not to practice any religion.

to give you an example. you see the recent negotiation with the US and the Taliban with regards to sergeant bowe bergdahl release from captivity. on a normal ground the US does not negotiate with the terrorist, but the "6th line of the soldier creed" says "I'll never leave a fallen comrade". if it were to be a regular citizen like james foley and Steven sotloff who were beheaded, the US govt would have shut all doors of negotiations.


another example,

the regular citizen can join in a peacful protest, but it's forbidden under the uniform code of the US military.

It's not just all about the constitution, sir.