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Apc's Islamic Agenda And The Synagogue Collapse by wesley80(m): 11:01pm On Sep 19, 2014

THE Synagogue Church Of All Nations, SCOAN, building collapse calamity of Tuesday September 15, will serve as a real test for the Lagos State government’s support for Christians and Churches.

When Governor Babatunde Fashola started off about eight years ago, his government said the noise from churches within residential areas was too much. It demanded that external cone speakers must be removed to reduce noise level within residential areas, and so on. We painstakingly adhered to the rules in our Church. Soon they discovered that Mosques also use huge external cone speakers and they call for prayers usually very loud about five times every day, from as early as 5am.

If implemented, the law would catch more of Mosques than Churches, so the matter died down. Early this year, I think around February, the President of the Lagos Branch of CAN gave a press briefing after a conference, where he called for the Deputy Governor slot to be allocated to Christians in Lagos State. A short while after after, the man’s church in the Lekki area was pulled down.

But will that stop the cry for fairness in Lagos? I think not, because this week, a pan-Igbo group campaigning for President Goodluck Ebele Jonathan, GEJ, has asked for the Deputy Governor slot to go to Ndigbo. Will LASG pounce on the executives? If they tried it, the consequences may be dire for APC in 2015. The truth is that the time has come for LASG to open up and expand the space between Muslims and Christians in matters of who rules Lagos.

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Re: Apc's Islamic Agenda And The Synagogue Collapse by wesley80(m): 11:05pm On Sep 19, 2014

Back to SCOAN. Already people believe LASG will find one reason or the other to clamp down on that church using this opportunity. The man himself, Prophet TB Joshua is seriously pointing to terrorism, and the message to discerning minds is grave.

Immature Christians are busy castigating TB Joshua rather than face the real issues. Some out sheer ignorance or because their GO told them so and so. Some say they don’t know how TB started, but who knows how Elijah started in the same Bible?

Elijah in the book of Judges was described as Elijah the Tishbite, and there is no place called Tish or Tishb in Isreal! Some doubted Elijah’s calling too at that time, and that accounted for his anger against King Ahab’s, Captains of Fifties where he said: “If I be a Man of God”…and the consequences for those soldiers were bad! Drawing from that alone, amidst many more examples, it is utterly futile to use the tradition of men, and man’s history to question God’s call on a person, or argue God’s decision.

Most disown TB Joshua out of sheer envy and jealousy. The man displays God’s power and anointing in uncommon ways, just like in the days of Simon Peter! I pray that God anoints many more like that, and give hell to the devil in Nigeria.

[b] ]The man is a great credit to the Church and Christianity in Nigeria as Heads of States and foreigners troop to the place, and that’s what the devil hates. The devil hates Nigeria because we curse him and put him to shame at every corner during night vigils, prayer meetings and in our holy altars.

Nigeria is at the centre of End-Time evangelism, and the devil knows it! What Christians often forget is that there is so much hatred against them from the pit of hell, and they are using the world and its leaders, even church leaders, to execute this plan. Their playing against each other over their earthly fight for supremacy is their folly, which their common enemy is exploiting.

If TB Joshua is oppressed by LASG, any Christian General Overseer will be oppressed whenever the opportunity presents itself to do so! The man has been pointing accusing fingers at terrorism, but our Church leaders castigate him and his claims, which are on real life recordings! How many planes have hovered four times over the headquarters of RCCG, TREM, Lord’s Chosen, Deeper Life, Christ Embassy, etc? The list is quite long. None! This plane hovers and soon after its last visit, the building collapses, and nothing is being said?[/b]

[/b]I don’t know where the boss of NEMA is coming from but his assertion that if it were a terrorist act, that the whole building will be reduced to rubbles is very wrong. He was too hasty to condemn, perhaps out of frustration from the reported reaction of the Church security.

First, it depends on the kind of bullet that was fired. Second , the extent of damage intended. For example, an appropriate laser bullet fired into a building will go to the foundations and cause damaging ruptures which will trigger a collapse of the building. If broad spectrum bullets or missiles are released into the building collapse will follow.

NEMA should stick to their rescue mission and leave other conjectures to professionals. Buildings collapse everyday, not only in Lagos. It has happened in Abuja,in India, Pakistan,Egypt, and will happen tomorrow. It is a human failure.

Christianity in Nigeria is under a serious siege, and we must think together to stop it. We must learn from the mistakes of the handling of Boko Haram. The insurgents have sympathy from some people in government so we are today fighting to recover parts of Nigeria from a small group that could have been silenced two years ago!

Maitastine, Boko Haram,ISIS, Al-Shabab, and the rest of them, are all Jihaddists fighting to eliminate the followers of the God of Isreal! They have no lines between the Christian denominations.All Christians put together are called INFIDELS, and are expendable! This is why the Church leadership in Nigeria must grow above the denominational bickering, and see the real issues TB Joshua is pointing at!

Clement Udegbe, is a legal practitioner
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/09/scoan-calamity-church-nigeria/#sthash.qupazUNE.dpuf

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Re: Apc's Islamic Agenda And The Synagogue Collapse by wesley80(m): 11:11pm On Sep 19, 2014
Is it not curious that more than 7days after the collapse, NAMA and the Lagos state government are yet to issue a statement concerning the "strange aircraft"? Instead, we are hearing of indictments! A few months ago a Boko Haram bomber was caught in same church after failing to detonate his devise. After being initially scoffed at by a largely ignorant public, the church handed the would - be bomber over to the authorities for investigation only for the details to be hushed up after confirming he was actually a terrorist!
Nigerians be wise!

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Re: Apc's Islamic Agenda And The Synagogue Collapse by Feedmemore(f): 11:24pm On Sep 19, 2014
Let's not play the religious card with this tragedy, neither should we believe in any conspiracy theory of "a strange aircraft, I'm of the opinion that the said building was not well reinforced for additional building that was being built on it, reason for the collapse.

I respect MoG, TB Joshua included, but there comes a time when we have to call a spade a spade. C'est fini!

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Re: Apc's Islamic Agenda And The Synagogue Collapse by Smooyis(m): 11:24pm On Sep 19, 2014
I hope they will have the maturity to reason that an injury to one is injury to all. Whatever that must have happened cannot erase the fact that TB Joshua is a great man of God. I was almost shedding tears when i read comments of many South Africans who were still talking positively about the prophet despite losing lots of their nationals in the tragedy. I know that even before this incident, lots of Nigerians hate to hear the voice of TB Joshua. It only goes to confirm what the Bible says that a prophet has no honour among his people.
Very soon, it will become clear to all that what happened in SCOAN was terrorism of the highest sophistication.

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Re: Apc's Islamic Agenda And The Synagogue Collapse by wesley80(m): 11:27pm On Sep 19, 2014
Feedmemore: Let's not play the religious card with this tragedy, neither should we believe in any conspiracy theory of "a strange aircraft, I'm of the opinion that the said building was not well reinforced for additional building that was being built on it reason for the collapse.

I respect MoG, TB Joshua included, but there comes a time when we have to call a spade a spade. C'est fini!


You are entitled to your opinion but stop making it sound like a fact till the details are all out. You have absolutely no basis to assume the building collapsed because of a structural defect.

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Re: Apc's Islamic Agenda And The Synagogue Collapse by Jmain: 11:43pm On Sep 19, 2014
The excuse given by the man of God is very unreasonable. It defies simple logic.

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Re: Apc's Islamic Agenda And The Synagogue Collapse by Feedmemore(f): 11:45pm On Sep 19, 2014
wesley80:

You are entitled to your opinion but stop making it sound like a fact till the details are all out. You have absolutely no basis to assume the building collapsed because of a structural defect.

...so are you, and stop making it sound like a strange aircraft brought the building down until a thorough investigation is carried out by a competent body/committee that can determine why the the building collapsed. C'est tout!

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Re: Apc's Islamic Agenda And The Synagogue Collapse by Feedmemore(f): 11:46pm On Sep 19, 2014
Jmain: The excuse given by the man of God is very unreasonable. It defiles simple logic.

Pls tell them...

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Re: Apc's Islamic Agenda And The Synagogue Collapse by wesley80(m): 11:47pm On Sep 19, 2014
Feedmemore:

...so are you, and stop making it sound like a strange aircraft brought the building down until a thorough investigation is carried out by a competent body/committee that can determine why the the building collapsed. C'est tout!
Fair enough.
Re: Apc's Islamic Agenda And The Synagogue Collapse by wesley80(m): 11:48pm On Sep 19, 2014
Jmain: The excuse given by the man of God is very unreasonable. It defiles simple logic.

And by logic here you mean your warped logic right?
Re: Apc's Islamic Agenda And The Synagogue Collapse by Nobody: 11:49pm On Sep 19, 2014

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Re: Apc's Islamic Agenda And The Synagogue Collapse by aderonila18: 11:57pm On Sep 19, 2014
Why are they always trying to stir up religious sentiments angry truth is the only reason The Pastor and his engineers haven't been arrested is because of the respect Fashola is according to the Pastor. In a normal case if your building collapses and kills so many people, the person will surely be called in for questioning which hasn't been done.

What a real Christian should be talking about is accountability. Jesus Christ told us to give to Caesar what is caesar's. The law demands that you get a permit before undergoing such extensor reconstruction. Did synagogue do that? They need to prove that they indeed obtained a permit and they did it in the right way.

Also we should ask them why they had people living in the building while adding more levels. That is major reconstruction and the building should not have had people living in it.

As Christians we should tell each other the truth in love when someone doesn't take the right steps. We should start this We against them mentality. We should always stand for the truth and the right thing for us to do it to ask the government not to be afraid to do it's job. The should carry out their investigations and whoever was negligent should be charged to court.

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Re: Apc's Islamic Agenda And The Synagogue Collapse by Nobody: 12:01am On Sep 20, 2014
TB Joshua should be arrested and prosecuted for erecting an unauthorized structure. He is just an ordinary Nigerian, there is nothing special about him. It would be a shame if this man is allowed to go scot-free.

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Re: Apc's Islamic Agenda And The Synagogue Collapse by kel4soft: 12:02am On Sep 20, 2014
wesley80:

You are entitled to your opinion but stop making it sound like a fact till the details are all out. You have absolutely no basis to assume the building collapsed because of a structural defect.

Your are not making any point. Why include APC in this thread with your half hazard theories? Now 8years ago when that law was implemented, it was hailed by both Christians and Muslims. That said, same law is in Rivers State since 2007 and most cities in Nigeria on the control of noise decibels not above 85-90db. How is this an Islamic agenda by APC? On the contrary the Church has evolve and experience unassailable growth. That is why even in my Church the sound systems are well filtered and control to give nice sound effects to congregation without disturbing your neighbours that may not be Christians or Jehovah Witness who you know have different believes You just feel like creating an article to attack APC meanwhile your heros are diverting your childrens funds to SA. When are you people going to have sense?

Dede namashobili di nma karagi.

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Re: Apc's Islamic Agenda And The Synagogue Collapse by aderonila18: 12:26am On Sep 20, 2014
By the way what does the whole issue have to do with APC? Is APC the owner of the so called plane/helicopter? I am sure it belongs to the Federal Government, so any questions about that should be directed to the right quarters. OP making this about APC shows this is just another political attempt at mud slinging

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Re: Apc's Islamic Agenda And The Synagogue Collapse by Jmain: 12:36am On Sep 20, 2014
wesley80:

And by logic here you mean your warped logic right?

Am sure you were one of those who ignorantly did a salt bath to fight off Ebola.

Use your brain dude

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Re: Apc's Islamic Agenda And The Synagogue Collapse by FastShipping: 12:55am On Sep 20, 2014
aderonila18: By the way what does the whole issue have to do with APC? Is APC the owner of the so called plane/helicopter? I am sure it belongs to the Federal Government, so any questions about that should be directed to the right quarters. OP making this about APC shows this is just another political attempt at mud slinging

The reason why I said the OP must be mad.

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Re: Apc's Islamic Agenda And The Synagogue Collapse by lakpalakpa: 1:28am On Sep 20, 2014
The OP is a Pseudo-Literate fool.

grin grin grin grin

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Re: Apc's Islamic Agenda And The Synagogue Collapse by mrofficial(m): 2:23am On Sep 20, 2014
@Op foolish human being. angry

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Re: Apc's Islamic Agenda And The Synagogue Collapse by omenka(m): 7:02am On Sep 20, 2014
Oboy!!!!! People mumu oo!!! Chaii!!

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Re: Apc's Islamic Agenda And The Synagogue Collapse by Nobody: 7:22am On Sep 20, 2014
Don't blame the OP guys, the unemployment rate in this country is astounding. Rather, please, help him get employed. At least he writes passable English... undecided

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Re: Apc's Islamic Agenda And The Synagogue Collapse by omenka(m): 7:22am On Sep 20, 2014
Alphaoscar: Its very frustrating sharing the same nationality with slowpokes like the Op. they are easily brainwashed and will stop at nothing to spread their gospel of stupidity to hell.
It is really frustrating and painful my brother!! His foolishness is beyond measure. Yet this same guy would claim he's educated.

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Re: Apc's Islamic Agenda And The Synagogue Collapse by Mogidi: 7:30am On Sep 20, 2014
They destroyed another church in Benin yesterday. In the space of one week two churches destroyed and next on the list is Oritsejafor, welcome to the Islamist caliphate of Nigeria.

Read it here:https://www.nairaland.com/1911469/breaking-news-another-church-building#26452426

Re: Apc's Islamic Agenda And The Synagogue Collapse by omenka(m): 7:30am On Sep 20, 2014
Jmain: The excuse given by the man of God is very unreasonable. It defiles simple logic.
Later you go talk say na autocorrect for windows phone oo Jmain. grin The word is "defies" and not defile.

Good morning.

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Re: Apc's Islamic Agenda And The Synagogue Collapse by Mogidi: 7:37am On Sep 20, 2014
omenka: Later you go talk say na autocorrect for windows phone oo Jmain. grin The word is "defies" and not defile.

Good morning.

Instead of using insults to advance your argument at least you resorted to banalities, flawless logic.
Re: Apc's Islamic Agenda And The Synagogue Collapse by Nobody: 7:42am On Sep 20, 2014
I wonder what concerns APC in the topic o! Some people will just wake up from the wrong side of the bed and start writing nonsense.

Foolish Op,Foolish topic!!

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Re: Apc's Islamic Agenda And The Synagogue Collapse by omenka(m): 7:43am On Sep 20, 2014
Mogidi:

Instead of using insults to advance your argument at least you resorted to banalities, flawless logic.
Oga stop sniffing my asss around. Are you a dog

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