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Re: Nigeria Turns To Russia And China For Military Hardware Against Terror by Smartlux(m): 3:07pm On Sep 20, 2014
eyaah!! lipsrsealed
Re: Nigeria Turns To Russia And China For Military Hardware Against Terror by Canme4u(m): 3:09pm On Sep 20, 2014
Good one... It is long overdue self.
Re: Nigeria Turns To Russia And China For Military Hardware Against Terror by valandy99(m): 3:11pm On Sep 20, 2014
Bleep USA and what ever they think they are
Re: Nigeria Turns To Russia And China For Military Hardware Against Terror by davitogreat(m): 3:15pm On Sep 20, 2014
Aigbofa:

You obviously assume that Nigerians are not smart enough to sift through the cacophony of lies and half truths to know what is true and what is false.
I guess you will trust Jonathan and his ministers to determine that for them as it is done in some other places.

Nigerians are not Chinese and if their system works for them maybe it is because corruption is severely punished in their country. Can you load a private jet with millions of dollars in China and fly it to another country?

Nigerians are not foolish, let anyone publish what they like we can discern the truth and if you are slandered the courts are there.

Majority of Nigerians are actually not smart enough to sift through the lies. If they were Nigeria would not be were it is today. Nigeria is a country divided by religious, political and tribal lines. Again if Nigerians were smart enough these divisions would not exist.

in regards to china
Yes but the question is how did china deal with thier corruption? Are you one who follows the code of "the end justifies the means"
I say this because the way china dealt with it is something Nigerians do not want to have to go through.

I guess you will trust Jonathan and his ministers to determine that for them as it is done in some other places.

plus i dont understand this comment. please shed more light

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Re: Nigeria Turns To Russia And China For Military Hardware Against Terror by Psylas(m): 3:15pm On Sep 20, 2014
Ymodulus: The west is too funny. The truth is thier reluctance to assist nigeria has nothing to do with human rights violations or lack of reliability and professionalism. If so then why is america still arming syrian rebels? I remember a couple months ago There were videos of syrian rebels cutting out the hearts of their enemies and eating it on youtube.

The hypocrisy of the west is truly in full display. I wonder why america is still sending billions of dollars of aid to egypt even with her gross human rights abuses. The truth of the matter is america just wants a puppet and Nigerias government is not submitting to them. The west never helps you without attaching strings.
After all if we look at countries like uganda and rwanda, countries that are willing puppets of america.(especially rwanda)
America still sells weapons to them even with their gross human rights violations.



Word for the wise
[size=15pt]Do not attach morality or civility to the Wests dealings with Nigeria and the rest of africa. Do so at your own peril.[/size]
Saudi is arming Syrian rebels not America
Re: Nigeria Turns To Russia And China For Military Hardware Against Terror by Truckpusher(m): 3:17pm On Sep 20, 2014
The West can't give you a free lunch until they've screwed you nicely,this time around it looks like the Otueke man refused to undresss anyhow.


Hello Washington AKA Slave driver
How long do you think you can hold Africa down?

Anyone that finds himself in Aso Rock should man up and tell the West to deal with them on equal terms or go fucck themselves.

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Re: Nigeria Turns To Russia And China For Military Hardware Against Terror by InvertedHammer: 3:18pm On Sep 20, 2014
Ymodulus:

Do you know that United state private own Defense Firms Seek Alternatives as U.S. Cuts Military Spending since 2003.
Please check the Wall street Journal as this was one of the major topic when it happened. Even Michael Bloomberg had to respond to Amanpour on a CNN interview that the firms have to sought for foreign partners. So bro I do not agree with you. Beside you had nice point I must confess

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Sorry I agree with davitogreat...

I will not provide details.

But davitogreat nailed it.
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Re: Nigeria Turns To Russia And China For Military Hardware Against Terror by Akalia(m): 3:18pm On Sep 20, 2014
Military hardwares manufactured in the US are by far superior and advanced than what Russia and China could offer.but instead of US holding us ransom, let's settle for the alternative.

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Re: Nigeria Turns To Russia And China For Military Hardware Against Terror by davitogreat(m): 3:19pm On Sep 20, 2014
Aigbofa:

The question is why are the Americans reluctant to sell arms to us? It is simplistic to just say because we are black. Given the fact that the U.S is a friendly nation to Nigeria.

The U.S is not a friendly nation to Nigeria. Never have and never will. All america cares about is protecting her interests and if you align with her interests she shows favor to you.

sidenote: This is the mentality Nigeria must adopt if we want to progress.

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Re: Nigeria Turns To Russia And China For Military Hardware Against Terror by Nobody: 3:19pm On Sep 20, 2014
Thinking Out Loud: Does President Goodluck Jonathan truly deserve a 2nd term:

READ @=> http://davidvsnaija..com/2014/09/thinking-out-loud-does-president.html
Re: Nigeria Turns To Russia And China For Military Hardware Against Terror by Nobody: 3:20pm On Sep 20, 2014
Good. I prefer dealing with Mr Putin to Obama.
Re: Nigeria Turns To Russia And China For Military Hardware Against Terror by Nobody: 3:20pm On Sep 20, 2014
Why can't Nigerians try to create their own weapons? What is the point of having universities that teach engineering and co in the country yet none of the graduates can boast of creating any lethal weapon. Is there something wrong with our black brain?

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Re: Nigeria Turns To Russia And China For Military Hardware Against Terror by ayinba1(f): 3:21pm On Sep 20, 2014
Aigbofa:

The question is why are the Americans reluctant to sell arms to us? It is simplistic to just say because we are black. Given the fact that the U.S is a friendly nation to Nigeria.

America should sell arms to GEJ to give to Ay bling to funnel to BH to kill northerners, abi??

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Re: Nigeria Turns To Russia And China For Military Hardware Against Terror by sweetgala(m): 3:21pm On Sep 20, 2014
BlackTechnology: Nigerians must start developing advanced weapons in large quantities

Wouldn't you think so, anyone would think the design and manufacture of small arms is a complex procedure when it is not. Is that not what Dicon was set up for, but when the funds to develop and purchase machining tools and better CNC machines are usurped by fat generals, we are still producing wooden AK47 /OBJ006.

When we can tool up and manufacture polymer clad FN FNC /FN Scar or the styer AUG .
We can even design our own to avoid purchasing the rights. Most firearm design patents are expiring.

I have a special interest in small arms design and you would be surprised to find out that the fire group for the Ak47/ FN Fal / HK G3 /AK 4 range of guns is alarming similar , and rather simple .

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Re: Nigeria Turns To Russia And China For Military Hardware Against Terror by davitogreat(m): 3:22pm On Sep 20, 2014
Psylas: Saudi is arming Syrian rebels not America

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/cia-begins-weapons-delivery-to-syrian-rebels/2013/09/11/9fcf2ed8-1b0c-11e3-a628-7e6dde8f889d_story.html
The CIA has begun delivering weapons to rebels in Syria, ending months of delay in lethal aid that had been promised by the Obama administration, according to U.S. officials and Syrian figures. The shipments began streaming into the country over the past two weeks, along with separate deliveries by the State Department of vehicles and other gear — a flow of material that marks a major escalation of the U.S. role in Syria’s civil war


http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/foreign-affairs-defense/syria-arming-the-rebels/syrian-rebels-describe-u-s-backed-training-in-qatar/
WASHINGTON — With reports indicating that forces loyal to Syrian President Bashar Assad are gaining ground in that country’s brutal civil war, moderate Syrian rebels have told a visiting journalist that the United States is arranging their training in Qatar.

In a documentary to be aired Tuesday night, the rebels describe their clandestine journey from the Syrian battlefield to meet with their American handlers in Turkey and then travel on to Qatar, where they say they received training in the use of sophisticated weapons and fighting techniques, including, one rebel said, “how to finish off soldiers still alive after an ambush.”
Re: Nigeria Turns To Russia And China For Military Hardware Against Terror by olayincar(m): 3:22pm On Sep 20, 2014
LMAyedun: Remember, God helps those who help themselves.
Re: Nigeria Turns To Russia And China For Military Hardware Against Terror by Nobody: 3:23pm On Sep 20, 2014
ayinba1:

America should sell arms to GEJ to give to Ay bling to funnel to BH to kill northerners, abi??

I don't think so, not until we get our acts together. And that may include reforming the military to a more professional one or kicking GEJ out of office if he wouldn't.
Re: Nigeria Turns To Russia And China For Military Hardware Against Terror by Nobody: 3:26pm On Sep 20, 2014
MZdamola: They should turn to God instead..

you too fine, oya make we discuss marriage
Re: Nigeria Turns To Russia And China For Military Hardware Against Terror by sweetgala(m): 3:27pm On Sep 20, 2014
davitogreat:


Your taking things it at face value. American arms manufacturers will never sell to just anybody. You guys really underestimate the american governments involvement in HER Military Industrial Complex.



America will never sell Nigeria apaches or Ah-IZ vipers they will never sell Nigeria drones they will never sell nigeria f22 raptors, they will never sell f15s, f16s e.t.c




They seems to be willing to sell F15 and F16 to Pakistan and everyone in between. They are just dragging their feet , making excuses
I always thought those were overpriced kits anyway.

We can just get 6th Gen SU and MIG , and stock up on the JF16 .

But we also need to develop the industry in Nigeria .

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Re: Nigeria Turns To Russia And China For Military Hardware Against Terror by Nobody: 3:27pm On Sep 20, 2014
Psylas: Saudi is arming Syrian rebels not America

lol you better start reading about the americans
Re: Nigeria Turns To Russia And China For Military Hardware Against Terror by Nobody: 3:27pm On Sep 20, 2014
The united state are profiting from the war on terror in Nigeria. That's why they don't want to help at all.
It's making sense Now!

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Re: Nigeria Turns To Russia And China For Military Hardware Against Terror by olayincar(m): 3:28pm On Sep 20, 2014
LMAyedun: Remember, God helps those who help themselves.

Yes I know
But wah I mean is In prayer
DeuterOnomy 28
Re: Nigeria Turns To Russia And China For Military Hardware Against Terror by Nobody: 3:30pm On Sep 20, 2014
datalossvictim1: Why can't Nigerians try to create their own weapons? What is the point of having universities that teach engineering and co in the country yet none of the graduates can boast of creating any lethal weapon. Is there something wrong with our black brain?

must you insult the black race to prove a point?
Re: Nigeria Turns To Russia And China For Military Hardware Against Terror by lezz(m): 3:30pm On Sep 20, 2014
Ymodulus: The west is too funny. The truth is thier reluctance to assist nigeria has nothing to do with human rights violations or lack of reliability and professionalism. If so then why is america still arming syrian rebels? I remember a couple months ago There were videos of syrian rebels cutting out the hearts of their enemies and eating it on youtube.

The hypocrisy of the west is truly in full display. I wonder why america is still sending billions of dollars of aid to egypt even with her gross human rights abuses. The truth of the matter is america just wants a puppet and Nigerias government is not submitting to them. The west never helps you without attaching strings.
After all if we look at countries like uganda and rwanda, countries that are willing puppets of america.(especially rwanda)
America still sells weapons to them even with their gross human rights violations.



Word for the wise
[size=15pt]Do not attach morality or civility to the Wests dealings with Nigeria and the rest of africa. Do so at your own peril.[/size]
your post leaves me with hope that Nigeria has people who can look beyong the hypocrisy of the west and see them for who they truly are: a bunch of gangsters and institutionalised criminals.
Re: Nigeria Turns To Russia And China For Military Hardware Against Terror by Psylas(m): 3:30pm On Sep 20, 2014
Re: Nigeria Turns To Russia And China For Military Hardware Against Terror by Truckpusher(m): 3:31pm On Sep 20, 2014
datalossvictim1: Why can't Nigerians try to create their own weapons? What is the point of having universities that teach engineering and co in the country yet none of the graduates can boast of creating any lethal weapon. Is there something wrong with our black brain?
Because we've had too many iidiots in power that continuously line their pockets with our money.

All they do is steal and steal until the things that matters no longer matter to them.

FYI: There are folks in Nnewi that can do that but regional politics won't allow them to metamorphos and grow bigger with better hardware.
Blame it on the Nigerian factor.

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Re: Nigeria Turns To Russia And China For Military Hardware Against Terror by plaetton: 3:31pm On Sep 20, 2014
Anyone who is familiar with, or does a case study of military conflicts in Africa over the past 60 yrs or so would notice that the west, or various organs of the anglosphere, are usually the architects, facilitators and provocateurs of such conflicts.
Also notable is that the west always and always play both sides of every conflict by advising and arming both sides.
However, what you may never notice is that the west never ever arms either side for a clear and concise victory. Never.
The west cleverly gives only enough arms, enough support to sustain an intractable conflict.
The west are only interested in conflicts that last indefinitely till the nation state can no longer function as such.
Angola, Congo, Uganda, Sudan, and Nigeria are historical examples.

No one should delude themselves that west would give Nigeria weapons or intelligence ( which they have) to defeat boko haram. The chaos created by book haram is exactly what they wish for Nigeria. They can also use it blackmail and influence Nigeria's resource and geopolitical policies. This has always been the MO of the anglosphere.

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Re: Nigeria Turns To Russia And China For Military Hardware Against Terror by Nobody: 3:33pm On Sep 20, 2014
donnypool:

must you insult the black race to prove a point?

Where is the insult? -_-

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Re: Nigeria Turns To Russia And China For Military Hardware Against Terror by SporaD8: 3:34pm On Sep 20, 2014
just what we are saying
Re: Nigeria Turns To Russia And China For Military Hardware Against Terror by Truckpusher(m): 3:35pm On Sep 20, 2014
plaetton: Anyone who is familiar with, or does a case study of military conflicts in Africa over the past 60 yrs or so would notice that the west, or various organs of the anglosphere, are usually the architects, facilitators and provocateurs of such conflicts.
Also notable is that the west always and always play both sides of every conflict by advising and arming both sides.
However, what you may never notice is that the west never ever arms either side for a clear and concise victory. Never.
The west cleverly gives only enough arms, enough support to sustain an intractable conflict.
The west are only interested in conflicts that last indefinitely till the nation state can no longer function as such.
Angola, Congo, Uganda, Sudan, and Nigeria are historical examples.

No one should delude themselves that west would give Nigeria weapons or intelligence ( which they have) to defeat boko haram. The chaos created by book haram is exactly what they wish for Nigeria. They can also use it blackmail and influence Nigeria's resource and geopolitical policies. This has always been the MO of the anglosphere.
Please help and explain that to our folks here that has their mouth stuck to the asss of the West.
They'd rather believe that 'America say' than 'Nigerian Govt said'........annoying set of people.
Re: Nigeria Turns To Russia And China For Military Hardware Against Terror by cirmuell(m): 3:35pm On Sep 20, 2014
Hehe grin now this is more like it. Bleep the west.
Re: Nigeria Turns To Russia And China For Military Hardware Against Terror by Nobody: 3:35pm On Sep 20, 2014
datalossvictim1:

Where is the insult? -_-

"why acting like a prostitute"

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