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Re: Why Is Obama Refered To As A Black Man When He Is 50% Of Both Races? by Blackcat(f): 2:33pm On Nov 05, 2008
tpia:

are Ramsey Noah and Van Vicker white? Jerry Rawlings?


Very very good observation. These people have been accepted as Blacks in Nigeria/Africa
Re: Why Is Obama Refered To As A Black Man When He Is 50% Of Both Races? by JustGood(m): 2:34pm On Nov 05, 2008
tpia:

are Ramsey Noah and Van Vicker white? Jerry Rawlings?

If you live in the US, you'll understand the KKK reference.

I dont know about the other guys but Jerry Rawlings is white too.

I want to understand why you think we should ignore someone's background just to claim them as black.

I understand the KKK reference. I asked a question - is that the yardstick for determining race and who laid down the yardstick?
Re: Why Is Obama Refered To As A Black Man When He Is 50% Of Both Races? by JustGood(m): 2:35pm On Nov 05, 2008
Blackcat:

Very very good observation. These people have been accepted as Blacks in Nigeria/Africa

Yes. they are black. Does that throw away their white backgrounds?
They are also white!
Re: Why Is Obama Refered To As A Black Man When He Is 50% Of Both Races? by ilaugh1: 2:41pm On Nov 05, 2008
BlackCaT - the wide pussied Nigerian American, says that if your Dad is black, and your mother is black, then you are black, so therefore, by her own juxtaposition, anyone who has a white father but a black mother should therefore be white, isint it?
Re: Why Is Obama Refered To As A Black Man When He Is 50% Of Both Races? by tpia: 2:46pm On Nov 05, 2008
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Re: Why Is Obama Refered To As A Black Man When He Is 50% Of Both Races? by JustGood(m): 2:49pm On Nov 05, 2008
tpia:

can you also explain why in Nigeria, a child is considered to belong to his father's side, and not his mother's?

when did Jerry rawlings become white?

@tpia, i'll have nothing to contend with you about again if you can stand by what you referred to as the belief in Nigeria.
Question: Should we henceforth regard every child born to a white man and black woman as white?

Jerry Rawlings has been white since he was born of a white parent. His father is white; does your theory about father's side not apply to him as well?
Re: Why Is Obama Refered To As A Black Man When He Is 50% Of Both Races? by MrCrackles(m): 2:52pm On Nov 05, 2008
Blackcat:

where is the LovePeddler have you run out of the one hour internet time you bought. Please keep your side of the yabbies coming don't keep my yabbies charged brain waiting. I have some instore and don't want to forget them before your yabbies arrive.

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Re: Why Is Obama Refered To As A Black Man When He Is 50% Of Both Races? by tpia: 3:00pm On Nov 05, 2008
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Re: Why Is Obama Refered To As A Black Man When He Is 50% Of Both Races? by JustGood(m): 3:11pm On Nov 05, 2008
tpia:


black father, black mother= black

black father ,white mother= black.

white father, black mother= black.

white father, white mother= white.

Skin color is more than just pigmentation. There are cultural and sociological issues involved. If one parent is black while the other is white, then the child is connected to two cultures- the white one and the non-white one. Both genetically and apparently.

Even white + asian doesnt equal white, so why are the blacks trying to jump the queue?

Jerry Rawlings isnt white. He doesnt call himself white and he fully embraces his heritage. Thats more realistic than trying to force yourself on whites who don't want to accept you.


In Brazil, lighter skin color is supposed to make you white. Still not working for the majority of blacks.


please tell me who made these combination rules that we have to follow
Re: Why Is Obama Refered To As A Black Man When He Is 50% Of Both Races? by JustGood(m): 3:12pm On Nov 05, 2008
Mixed race children tend not to refer to themselves as white because white people reject them and dont want to 'stain their pure blood'.
The fact that a mixed race child/person refers to himself/herself as black does not preclude the fact that he/she is 50% black in reality
Re: Why Is Obama Refered To As A Black Man When He Is 50% Of Both Races? by jintujinta(m): 3:28pm On Nov 05, 2008
Because he is black and proud to be. Unlike some who are not. Did you just mention micheal Jackson? I didnt o.
Re: Why Is Obama Refered To As A Black Man When He Is 50% Of Both Races? by Blackcat(f): 3:29pm On Nov 05, 2008
i_laugh:

BlackCaT - the wide pussied Nigerian American, says that if your Dad is black, and your mother is black, then you are black, so therefore, by her own juxtaposition, anyone who has a white father but a black mother should therefore be white, isint it?



Pig, ass, dunghill, the spawn of an adder, basilisk, buffoon there is an intelligent argument going on here in case you have not noticed. Two intelligent minds (JustGood and tpia ) are currently disagreeing in order to agree. Please why don't you for the first time in your life get off that bed push the d-i-c-k-s out of your holes and read if you can't contribute. tpia was kind enough to ask you to take your obsession somewhere else but did you yield no.
Okay, I will make you an offer you can't refuse if you keep quiet and read the intelligent posts so far made by a lot of intelligent minds on this thread, I will let my dogs f-u-c-k your ass all night long while you suck on my horses d-i-c-k. Deal or No Deal! cheesy
Re: Why Is Obama Refered To As A Black Man When He Is 50% Of Both Races? by tpia: 3:29pm On Nov 05, 2008
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Re: Why Is Obama Refered To As A Black Man When He Is 50% Of Both Races? by tpia: 3:30pm On Nov 05, 2008
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Re: Why Is Obama Refered To As A Black Man When He Is 50% Of Both Races? by anonimi: 3:39pm On Nov 05, 2008
referring to half casts as blacks reflects our inferiority complex and acceptance of the connotation that goes along with such labelling of mulatos as blacks, i.e. black is dirty and when it touches clean white it can only be described as black(dirty).
what we should ask ourselves is why is white so desirable and black so despicable!!!
what can we (u & I) do to change the perception by improving our collective lot rather than engaging in the usual na-me-big-pass-for-village.
Re: Why Is Obama Refered To As A Black Man When He Is 50% Of Both Races? by Blackcat(f): 3:47pm On Nov 05, 2008
All your contributions are brilliant but if any of the contributors is mixed, I would like him/her to answer this question.

Why have they not stood up to fight the white race for rejecting them? I mean we have millions of mixed kids why don't they start a rebellion?
Re: Why Is Obama Refered To As A Black Man When He Is 50% Of Both Races? by anonimi: 3:53pm On Nov 05, 2008
Blackcat:

Why have they not stood up to fight the white race for rejecting them? I mean we have millions of mixed kids why don't they start a rebellion?

Bob Marley's music was such a rebellion and in some ways Obama's success is another.
The better rebellion will be by us (u & I) as blacks against our denigrating values to emancipate ourselves from the mental slavery that holds us in a vicious cycle of poverty, disease, overspirituality & underscientific etc etc. Yet we are genetically equal in our mental capabilities as individuals, one on one!!!
Re: Why Is Obama Refered To As A Black Man When He Is 50% Of Both Races? by Tonyet1(m): 4:01pm On Nov 05, 2008
[size=48pt]THIS IS FOR MCCAIN[/size]

Re: Why Is Obama Refered To As A Black Man When He Is 50% Of Both Races? by ilaugh1: 4:02pm On Nov 05, 2008
Goats have taken over my thread.
Re: Why Is Obama Refered To As A Black Man When He Is 50% Of Both Races? by Tonyet1(m): 4:03pm On Nov 05, 2008
now this is for you. . . i_laugh

Re: Why Is Obama Refered To As A Black Man When He Is 50% Of Both Races? by mekk(m): 4:20pm On Nov 05, 2008
white,black,white,black blah blah blah, what is it with you guys anyway? next thread pleaaaaaaaaaaaseee!!!!
Re: Why Is Obama Refered To As A Black Man When He Is 50% Of Both Races? by SeanT21(f): 4:52pm On Nov 05, 2008
BO is Mixed but Society Will Picture him Black.
Re: Why Is Obama Refered To As A Black Man When He Is 50% Of Both Races? by Johnnny(m): 4:53pm On Nov 05, 2008
mekk:

white,black,white,black blah blah blah, what is it with you guys anyway? next thread pleaaaaaaaaaaaseee!!!!


Yeah!!! cheesy cheesy cheesy

I am with u mekk. This guys will never agree even if God himself contributes to this thread.
Re: Why Is Obama Refered To As A Black Man When He Is 50% Of Both Races? by lucabrasi(m): 5:06pm On Nov 05, 2008
black people generally do not ascribe colours its the whites that do that and as far as they r concerned obama is a black,kenyan even with his yankee citizenship
Re: Why Is Obama Refered To As A Black Man When He Is 50% Of Both Races? by tpia: 5:09pm On Nov 05, 2008
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Re: Why Is Obama Refered To As A Black Man When He Is 50% Of Both Races? by JustGood(m): 5:15pm On Nov 05, 2008
I suppose its too difficult to see what the point is here.

I dont have a problem with Obama being black. I have a problem with people who want to conform to white standards of segregating mixed race people and trying to ignore or wish away their white background.

Tell exactly why Obama is not white and I'll use the same logic to tell you why he's not Black. My point is that he is both black and white.

I am happy that a man of African descent will occupy the white house! But that does not remove the fact that he also has white blood in him
Re: Why Is Obama Refered To As A Black Man When He Is 50% Of Both Races? by tpia: 5:26pm On Nov 05, 2008
JustGood:

I suppose its too difficult to see what the point is here.

I don't have a problem with Obama being black. I have a problem with people who want to conform to white standards of segregating mixed race people and trying to ignore or wish away their white background.

Tell exactly why Obama is not white and I'll use the same logic to tell you why he's not Black. My point is that he is both black and white.

I am happy that a man of African descent will occupy the white house! But that does not remove the fact that he also has white blood in him

no one has ignored obama's white heritage, to the best of my knowledge. The terms black and biracial can be used interchangeably. However, like I pointed out before, blacks arent the only race who have intermarried with whites.

There are millions of Africans mixed with white or Arab blood. Yet it doesnt diminish the fact that they are black Africans. What you're advocating here will lead to the extinction of the white race since every mixed race person will be considered white.

Even Tuaregs consider themselves distinct from Arabs despite clearly having Arab blood. Same goes for Somalis and many others.

why do some blacks want to jump the queue as if they're the only ones there?
Re: Why Is Obama Refered To As A Black Man When He Is 50% Of Both Races? by anonimi: 5:32pm On Nov 05, 2008
JustGood:

I suppose its too difficult to see what the point is here.
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Tell exactly why Obama is not white and I'll use the same logic to tell you why he's not Black. My point is that he is both black and white.
I am happy that a man of African descent will occupy the white house! But that does not remove the fact that he also has white blood in him

Thank you for what you just said in bold above.

tpia:

What you're advocating here will lead to the extinction of the white race since every mixed race person will be considered white.


I'm not sure I get what you are saying there. Mind explaining?
Re: Why Is Obama Refered To As A Black Man When He Is 50% Of Both Races? by tpia: 5:41pm On Nov 05, 2008
anonimi:

Thank you for what you just said in bold above.

I'm not sure I get what you are saying there. Mind explaining?

If every mixed race person gets classified as white, then the whites will identify themselves by another name. Hitler already tried it with his Aryan theories. This kind of attitude fuels white supremacists.

I dont see why whites should be forced to accept what they're not comfortable with. I already pointed out the fact that its not only blacks who have white blood- other races do too.

Maybe we should all just get back to calling biracials mulattos or half-castes and be done with it.

being black or white is more than just skin color. There are cultural and sociological issues involved.
Re: Why Is Obama Refered To As A Black Man When He Is 50% Of Both Races? by tpia: 5:55pm On Nov 05, 2008
Gamel Nkrumah: son of Kwame Nkrumah and his Egyptian wife Fathia:





the Nkrumahs( sons, daughter and granddaughter):




Colored South African family:





they should all be called white?
Re: Why Is Obama Refered To As A Black Man When He Is 50% Of Both Races? by JustGood(m): 6:04pm On Nov 05, 2008
should they all be called black? They are mixed!
Re: Why Is Obama Refered To As A Black Man When He Is 50% Of Both Races? by tpia: 6:07pm On Nov 05, 2008
JustGood:

should they all be called black? They are mixed!

are my relatives who look whiter than them, also mixed?

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