[quote
author=Ibnsultan post=27028338]I would love to tell u. But am not
authorize.
Source is classified. Bh has lots of offshoot. Groups like
Ansaru,yusuffiya with different modus operandi. Each contributing 000's
of fighters to the Umbrella Group BH
Hundreds of Foreign fighters from Niger,Chad,cameroun,sudan,libya,car
making up the ranks [/quote]

ok thanks

is khalid Al Barnawi a sudanese?

is he related to sheikh Bukar Al Barnawi in any way?

Ibnsultan:
Nigeria shouldn't go for arm drone now. But cheap realible survaillance drones from
China
Iran would help

ok i see

AspDrone:

You family na bunch of noise makers..where were u when others bought form to join NA. Stupid u.
Even if gadafi down aircraft,US go tell u? Mumu like u

I responded to you cos you did mention my family. I will not course ur family cos they might be good people. I won't forgive you cos you re nobody in ur family. Right now I comand amadioha to strike you into piece and invest ur remaining with ebola. May the vultures eat ur body. Nairalander will not miss u cos today marks ur end on this forum. Rest in pieces boy

enomakos:


ok thanks

is khalid Al Barnawi a sudanese?

is he related to sheikh Bukar Al Barnawi in any way?

I can tell u just diz
He has 5m$ on his head
Alias muhammad usman
Believe to be from Borno
Head Ansaru
Responsible for bold attack on security structures
Sars Hq
Attack on mali bound troop capture of british& italian citizens and so much more

Ibnsultan:
Our oil should serve as leverage in getting folks release modern weaponry to us

bros let us upgrade our defence industry and give them the necessary R & D capability we seriously need to start churning out indigenous systems that can compete favourably with international standard take for example the leopard ACV by proforce haven't you seen it, its light and fast with a machine gun turret at the top this are nigerian made products that we need to develope on. The leopard could be used for urban patrol, border patrol and even VIP escort ( since we love our VIP so much) by the mobile police force and our joint task force. We keep hearing we need mraps! we need mraps! Why did the army not sign a deal with proforce to work together in producing this things, what about airdefence systems sign a joint contract with NASDRA after all works are on going at the space lift and propulsion center at Epe. Let us focus on creativity the production of the light trainer aircraft by the airforce institute of technology have been stalled now because of funds when a bill is sitting in the national assembly waiting to be signed a bill that is supposed to empower our own AFIT to global competitiveness by making it an institution of its own, so that it can seek funds on its own sign bilateral partnership and sponsor its own project with its budget ( right now it draws from the airforce budget) so this are things that i have seen and i think i should speak out on.

overhypedsteve:
bros let us upgrade our defence industry and give them the necessary R & D capability we seriously need to start churning out indigenous systems that can compete favourably with international standard take for example the leopard ACV by proforce haven't you seen it, its light and fast with a machine gun turret at the top this are nigerian made products that we need to develope on. The leopard could be used for urban patrol, border patrol and even VIP escort ( since we love our VIP so much) by the mobile police force and our joint task force. We keep hearing we need mraps! we need mraps! Why did the army not sign a deal with proforce to work together in producing this things, what about airdefence systems sign a joint contract with NASDRA after all works are on going at the space lift and propulsion center at Epe. Let us focus on creativity the production of the light trainer aircraft by the airforce institute of technology have been stalled now because of funds when a bill is sitting in the national assembly waiting to be signed a bill that is supposed to empower our own AFIT to global competitiveness by making it an institution of its own, so that it can seek funds on its own sign bilateral partnership and sponsor its own project with its budget ( right now it draws from the airforce budget) so this are things that i have seen and i think i should speak out on.

some times u have the wrong ppl in ryt place
Our defence policy designers should be men like u monsieur

overhypedsteve:
bros let us upgrade our defence industry and give them the necessary R & D capability we seriously need to start churning out indigenous systems that can compete favourably with international standard take for example the leopard ACV by proforce haven't you seen it, its light and fast with a machine gun turret at the top this are nigerian made products that we need to develope on. The leopard could be used for urban patrol, border patrol and even VIP escort ( since we love our VIP so much) by the mobile police force and our joint task force. We keep hearing we need mraps! we need mraps! Why did the army not sign a deal with proforce to work together in producing this things, what about airdefence systems sign a joint contract with NASDRA after all works are on going at the space lift and propulsion center at Epe. Let us focus on creativity the production of the light trainer aircraft by the airforce institute of technology have been stalled now because of funds when a bill is sitting in the national assembly waiting to be signed a bill that is supposed to empower our own AFIT to global competitiveness by making it an institution of its own, so that it can seek funds on its own sign bilateral partnership and sponsor its own project with its budget ( right now it draws from the airforce budget) so this are things that i have seen and i think i should speak out on.

Proforce is a vital ingredient for the future of our armforces. We should encourage her and one day it shall reach the standard of its western& eastern counterpart

Ibnsultan:
I can tell u just diz
He has 5m$ on his head
Alias muhammad usman
Believe to be from Borno
Head Ansaru
Responsible for bold attack on security structures
Sars Hq
Attack on mali bound troop capture of british& italian citizens and so much more

thanks for the info

[quote
author=overhypedsteve post=27029584] bros let us upgrade our defence
industry and give them the necessary R & D capability we seriously
need to start churning out indigenous systems that can compete
favourably with international standard take for example the leopard ACV
by proforce haven't you seen it, its light and fast with a machine gun
turret at the top this are nigerian made products that we need to
develope on. The leopard could be used for urban patrol, border patrol
and even VIP escort ( since we love our VIP so much) by the mobile
police force and our joint task force. We keep hearing we need mraps! we
need mraps! Why did the army not sign a deal with proforce to work
together in producing this things, what about airdefence systems sign a
joint contract with NASDRA after all works are on going at the space
lift and propulsion center at Epe. Let us focus on creativity the
production of the light trainer aircraft by the airforce institute of
technology have been stalled now because of funds when a bill is sitting
in the national assembly waiting to be signed a bill that is supposed
to empower our own AFIT to global competitiveness by making it an
institution of its own, so that it can seek funds on its own sign
bilateral partnership and sponsor its own project with its budget (
right now it draws from the airforce budget) so this are things that i
have seen and i think i should speak out on. [/quote]

is this really made in nigeria?

Ibnsultan:
some times u have the wrong ppl in ryt place
Our defence policy designers should be men like u monsieur

there are better men for the job. 2014 almost gone no 4th generation jet in sight, no known upgrade to our Gulma drones ( and we had the gut to send cash to SA to buy their seeker drone )no new defence contract, no navy frigate in sight, no good news from dicon ( it is painful to note that among the shoplist for our butched deal with the south Africans was : fnfal rifle, helmet sets, and some other gadgets that dicon had in its production line)maybe Dicon is failing already we wont know, where are the RPG7 they where working on that had scope, where are the artillery systems they fabricated, where are the GPMG's they told us about, when do we start fielding them?

enomakos:


is this really made in nigeria?

chai see funny question, no its made in Sudan. You can visit their factory in ogun state, Yes it is made in Nigeria start to finish, they also make drones and gun boats, but our government have showed not to patronize them fully, they are the future of west Africa and indeed central Africa defence industry.

saintjoel:


Armament

Guns: One 27 mm Mauser BK-27 Revolver cannon in centreline gun pack with 120 rounds or one 30 mm DEFA in centerline pod with 150 rounds
Rockets: Two Matra rocket pods with eighteen SNEB 68 mm rockets each or two CRV7 rocket pods with nineteen 70 mm rockets each
Missiles: Two AIM-9 Sidewinders; two Matra Magic IIs; two AGM-65 Mavericks;
Bombs: 2,500 kg (5,500 lb) of payload on five external hardpoints, including a variety of bombs (such as the Hunting BL755 cluster bomb) or Drop tanks for extended range.

PLS IGNORE D IGNORANT,AWAYS LOVE TO DISPLAY foolishnes in d public!its not a toy but a disaster on d loose!

Ibnsultan:
some times u have the wrong ppl in ryt place
Our defence policy designers should be men like u monsieur

I like that poster's thinking too.

Ideally, DICON should be producing all our warfare weapons, including fighter jets and attack-helicopters. Nigeria is blessed with many aeronautical engineers whom the FG could engage in the production of the jets.

gidjah:
PLS IGNORE D IGNORANT,AWAYS LOVE TO DISPLAY foolishnes in d public!its not a toy but a disaster on d loose!

they where being sarcastic, yes its not a toy and i agree with you backed by evidence that that plane is a disaster on the loose, some even call it flying coffin, Hedima our gallant man lost his life because he was using one of those to play a role it was never meant for.

CFCfan:

I like that poster's thinking too.

Ideally, DICON should be producing all our warfare weapons, including fighter jets and attack-helicopters. Nigeria is blessed with many aeronautical engineers whom the FG could engage in the production of the jets.

thank you, i think for now we may have to convene all our fabrication experts, mechanical engineers, our experts at Nasdra and Afit. We need to convene them and tell them to start working seriously toward the local fabrication of a jet engine( i believe this is one area where even countries like China, Iran, Japan and Korea are having problem) the airforce should give them their specifications i.e. This is what we want, this is how we want it, this is why we want it. The company that is able to present exactly what the airforce want will be awarded the contract and empowered for mass production, that's how Bae, Lockheed martins, Boeing, GMC of America compete to get defence contract. That way there will be competitive competence, sustainability, skills transfer at the expense of the private companies, take for example if we sign a contract with proforce to produce MRAPS its now their duty to provide for the foreign training of their staffs on how to weld armoured metals, how to work with armoured glass and how to effectively screw up and weld joints without leaving any weak points

overhypedsteve:
thank you, i think for now we may have to convene all our fabrication experts, mechanical engineers, our experts at Nasdra and Afit. We need to convene them and tell them to start working seriously toward the local fabrication of a jet engine( i believe this is one area where even countries like China, Iran, Japan and Korea are having problem) the airforce should give them their specifications i.e. This is what we want, this is how we want it, this is why we want it. The company that is able to present exactly what the airforce want will be awarded the contract and empowered for mass production, that's how Bae, Lockheed martins, Boeing, GMC of America compete to get defence contract. That way there will be competitive competence, sustainability, skills transfer at the expense of the private companies, take for example if we sign a contract with proforce to produce MRAPS its now their duty to provide for the foreign training of their staffs on how to weld armoured metals, how to work with armoured glass and how to effectively screw up and weld joints without leaving any weak points

Very well said!!

Not only will Nigeria become self sufficient in producing military hardware, 100,000s of jobs could also be created if your idea is implemented.

CFCfan:

Very well said!!

Not only will Nigeria become self sufficient in producing military hardware, 100,000s of jobs could also be created if your idea is implemented.

just like you said, expertise and talents are lying in waste in our dear country, take for example ajaokuta steel company should be empowered for the smelting of armoured metals and building of engine blocks, our boys building spare parts in the east are not to be left out send them out for training everybody should be carried along in this Grassroot reformation plan ( GRP ) our army engineering corps should recruit more engineers and embark in the construction garrisons across our very porous border with our fraudulent neighbour at least everybody should be working, everybody should be busy everyday building a nation that our kids can be proud of, abi you guys want your kids to go through all this things we went through growing up in nigeria?

CFCfan:

I like that poster's thinking too.

Ideally, DICON should be producing all our warfare weapons, including fighter jets and attack-helicopters. Nigeria is blessed with many aeronautical engineers whom the FG could engage in the production of the jets.

we have the Wealth &human res needed

Cannonleo:


True yarn my broda.the us lost two jets on take off on a carrier on the ongoing stupid war against their own created monster ISIL.the jets collided in mid air nobody heard abt it at all.if not say I hear rumors then come do small deep research it would have been typical swept under the carpet game..
I hate nigerians who believe that they are no better than others exhibiting ignorance.nah so one woman go dey tell me for bank as we dey watch bbc say she no sabi say white people dey suffer.she think say them born us black! Come use suffer finish packaging

no mind the mumu, the world powers are converging against ISIL with their "military superiority" and next gen fighter jets..yet no headway so far..why?

Una dey mind the "peppersoup" millitary experts ...pick up some terms from siriusblack thread and they no go gree make nairaland rest

Thank God

Nigerdeltaboi:

yes o , su 27/30 series on of them

This is an Alpha jet. The russian made Su 27 is a much advanced fighter aircraft.

Cannonleo:
Which he diot thinks the alfa jet is the.only aircraft in the inventory.for ur info.there are more new jets.in the airforce inventory......the alfa is like their flagship just like aradu is to the navy
This little toys carries 4 proper payloads plus.its cannons

My brother, sorry to disappoint you but the Nigerian airforce as it stands have only a few operational fighter jets as it is right now. A couple of alpha jets of which one 'crashed' and a few F7s.
The airforce need to procure birds period. Let's stop lying to ourselves.

Propagating lies as fact...chei E-peppersoup general ..check out the 2014 Nigeria Airforce show.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNrKGppmV_Q#t=11

Eeser:

My brother, sorry to disappoint you but the Nigerian airforce as it stands have only a few operational fighter jets as it is right now. A couple of alpha jets of which one 'crashed' and a few F7s.
The airforce need to procure birds period. Let's stop lying to ourselves.

deji68:
Propagating lies as fact...chei E-peppersoup general ..check out the 2014 Nigeria Airforce show.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNrKGppmV_Q#t=11

Na wao for you oo bros. In this whole video, how many fighter jets you don see apart from 3 Alphas and a couple of F7s? Which of the generals you come be now that you have just displayed your ignorance? I just dey laugh.

so na only 3 alpha jets u see in the 5 min video ...other air assets like helicopters, Transports plane, e.t.c u no wan see...so the NAF should fly all the planes in their inventory at once to convince doubting thomas like u......Mtchew!!!!!!!

Eeser:

Na wao for you oo bros. In this whole video, how many fighter jets you don see apart from 3 Alphas and a couple of F7s? Which of the generals you come be now that you have just displayed your ignorance? I just dey laugh.

CFCfan:

I like that poster's thinking too.
Ideally, DICON should be producing all our warfare weapons, including fighter jets and attack-helicopters. Nigeria is blessed with many aeronautical engineers whom the FG could engage in the production of the jets.

overhypedsteve:
thank you, i think for now we may have to convene all our fabrication experts, mechanical engineers, our experts at Nasdra and Afit. We need to convene them and tell them to start working seriously toward the local fabrication of a jet engine( i believe this is one area where even countries like China, Iran, Japan and Korea are having problem) the airforce should give them their specifications i.e. This is what we want, this is how we want it, this is why we want it. The company that is able to present exactly what the airforce want will be awarded the contract and empowered for mass production, that's how Bae, Lockheed martins, Boeing, GMC of America compete to get defence contract. That way there will be competitive competence, sustainability, skills transfer at the expense of the private companies, take for example if we sign a contract with proforce to produce MRAPS its now their duty to provide for the foreign training of their staffs on how to weld armoured metals, how to work with armoured glass and how to effectively screw up and weld joints without leaving any weak points

You guys are cracking jokes!! Design and build military fighter jets in Nigeria?? Ordinary electricity, PHCN cannot even generate/distribute 24x7x365 days, or talk less of even building a motorcycle engine here and you are dreaming this big about high precision jet engines?? Mama Ngozi, please one more round of pepe-soup and chilled stout for my friends here

namuguibe:

You guys are cracking jokes!! Design and build military fighter jets in Nigeria?? Ordinary electricity, PHCN cannot even generate/distribute 24x7x365 days, or talk less of even building a motorcycle engine here and you are dreaming this big about high precision jet engines?? Mama Ngozi, please one more round of pepe-soup and chilled stout for my friends here

thanks for the drink but i think i will pass. Listen up fella! Necessity is the mother of inventions, when human societies realise the need for something and they do not go all out to find a way of either acquiring that thing or making it for themselves then there is a problem. Who said we cant be making high voltage transformers here in Nigeria, who said we cannot fabricate our own power plants, who said in the rail aspect we cannot be building carriages and rail lines for ourselves we can but we wont why because i don't know.

overhypedsteve:
thanks for the drink but i think i will pass. Listen up fella! Necessity is the mother of inventions, when human societies realise the need for something and they do not go all out to find a way of either acquiring that thing or making it for themselves then there is a problem. Who said we cant be making high voltage transformers here in Nigeria, who said we cannot fabricate our own power plants, who said in the rail aspect we cannot be building carriages and rail lines for ourselves we can but we wont why because i don't know.

I agree with your statements and your thinking. I however like to taper my dreams with reality. We are yet to produce anything hi-tech in Nigeria. A good starting point would be reliable uninterrupted electricity in our most strategic metro cities. Then we can move on to the next grandiose plan of building jet engines. It's not a knock on our technical know-how, as I am certain that there are Nigerian engineers that have designed the US Military planes.. but alas we have so many problems ...

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