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A Story That Shows The Difference Between Nigerian And Western Christians by esere826: 10:54pm On Oct 12, 2014 |
That Ain’t Right: Teachable Moment For The Nigerian Christian by Pius Adesanmi http://saharareporters.com/2014/10/10/ain%E2%80%99t-right-teachable-moment-nigerian-christian-pius-adesanmi As a typical Nigerian Christian, I felt a little guilt after reading this. However, I know that I will soon recover and go back to my Nigerian xtian ways I am getting old. I don't know how I could have forgotten this story, given its relevance to the Nigerian tragedy (a tragedy which shall prevail until we make some progress in rewiring the atrocious psychology of the Nigerian). 19 Likes 5 Shares |
Re: A Story That Shows The Difference Between Nigerian And Western Christians by Nobody: 11:02pm On Oct 12, 2014 |
pius adesanmi, tell them again! and again!! criminals everywhere |
Re: A Story That Shows The Difference Between Nigerian And Western Christians by nora544: 11:37pm On Oct 12, 2014 |
Yeah that is like we see it here in Europa. |
Re: A Story That Shows The Difference Between Nigerian And Western Christians by sammoe(m): 12:50am On Oct 13, 2014 |
I comment my reserve... |
Re: A Story That Shows The Difference Between Nigerian And Western Christians by kevoh(m): 1:12am On Oct 13, 2014 |
"I say Canada shall wake up tomorrow and find your name missing in the student loans register."This got me laughing 1 Like |
Re: A Story That Shows The Difference Between Nigerian And Western Christians by mumumugu(m): 1:14am On Oct 13, 2014 |
It is right |
Re: A Story That Shows The Difference Between Nigerian And Western Christians by ladygogo: 1:58am On Oct 13, 2014 |
Very true. Creepy Nigerian churches ! I stay away from them. They only preach about miracles, enemies and the devil. 2 Likes |
Re: A Story That Shows The Difference Between Nigerian And Western Christians by nitrogen(m): 6:15am On Oct 13, 2014 |
Nonsense pastors and brainwashed followers, even if they (pastors/MOGs) tell them to allow their (stvpid followers) wives spend nights with them turn by turn, the followers will willingly and insensibly oblige. Rubbish psychology, id1otic mentality! 1 Like |
Re: A Story That Shows The Difference Between Nigerian And Western Christians by mkpakanaodogwu(m): 7:39am On Oct 13, 2014 |
One lady was giving testmoney yesterday how a man of 93yrs plus who refused to attend her wedding died after the pastor decleard deatht to witches and wizards and the congregation was in rapturous bliz,i just cringed.religion has destroyed the fabric of our society 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: A Story That Shows The Difference Between Nigerian And Western Christians by mmsen: 9:07am On Oct 13, 2014 |
I like how you people are obsessed with portraying Nigerians as bad and Westerners as inherently good. Please go to family court anywhere in North America and see if your lopsided and backwards prejudice holds up. Watch as people lie so as to extract money from the ones that they claim to have loved. There are millions of people who do all that they can to avoid paying all kinds of loans - sometimes because of sheer dishonesty but other times because the terms of the loan were unjust. Giving tens of thousands of dollars to a child with no financial training is in itself immoral. It seems Nigeria has three main religions - Islam, Christianity and Self-hatred. 4 Likes |
Re: A Story That Shows The Difference Between Nigerian And Western Christians by esere826: 12:38pm On Oct 13, 2014 |
mmsen: dude you've got a point. However, Pius tried to teach us something here if only you could catch it. Societies are advanced because they follow some crucial rules. So their need for miracles become less if your society deviates from such rules, what they'll get is miracles for few and suffering for many. You know how many people in Nigeria die and are robbed when travelling to and from crusades after binding and casting all imaginable demons? Ask you Nigerian brethren's in the West how often they pray for safe journey when travelling - Your brethrens pray and sow seeds to escape to these western countries. They in turn don't need to pray and sow seeds when coming to yours. If we rob and destroy our country so we can give to God and be rich, we invariable create paupers of the next generation who are then also forced to cry out to God for little mercies that ordinarily God should not be bothering himself with 5 Likes |
Re: A Story That Shows The Difference Between Nigerian And Western Christians by Nobody: 2:03pm On Oct 13, 2014 |
esere826:don't mind that guy...he's in the same camp with the nigerian leader that said corruption wasn't the problem with nigeria. |
Re: A Story That Shows The Difference Between Nigerian And Western Christians by plaetton: 3:50pm On Oct 13, 2014 |
esere826: Perfectly said. Everyone under ate the type of damage that the glorification of idiocy can have on the growing young who are trying to make sense of reality. 1 Like |
Re: A Story That Shows The Difference Between Nigerian And Western Christians by AjanleKoko: 4:09pm On Oct 13, 2014 |
mmsen: This is the kind of thinking that has entrenched mediocrity and lack of desire for excellence in the heart of the average African. Rather than desiring and working steadfastly towards a free, egalitarian and progressive society, we prefer to cling to useless defensive sentiment that only serves selfish interests of a few scoundrels, as opposed to the common good. Rather than looking critically inward when criticism comes our way, we would rather grope around for any available excuses to carry on with our reprehensible attitudes, eediotic behaviour, and all-round buffoonery. Small wonder nothing ever changes for the common African on the streets of Africa, since desperate spin doctors are always available to bully public consciousness with empty and useless 'tough talk'. Like the eediots who think it's perfectly all right for a government to carry out backstreet arms deals. As if Nigeria is the only nation to ever purchase ammunition. Even Iran that is under sanctions still manage to do such business without looking like fools. 7 Likes |
Re: A Story That Shows The Difference Between Nigerian And Western Christians by mmsen: 4:15pm On Oct 13, 2014 |
AjanleKoko: No, the issue is to not forever cling to a notion that the Westerners are these wonderful, benevolent creatures. They have and continue to cause a lot of chaos, worldwide - yet there are people like you who insistent on holding them up as an example. North American wealth is built on the exploitation and marginalisation of the native peoples as well as those who were lured or sold into their territories. The reason for African backwardness has a lot to do with the need for people like yourself to make gods from anything instead of spreading knowledge and encouraging discovery. That is the real root of the issue - a lack of understanding which you have displayed marvellously. 1 Like |
Re: A Story That Shows The Difference Between Nigerian And Western Christians by Nobody: 4:19pm On Oct 13, 2014 |
mmsen:no, you're the one who's ignorant af. spreading knowledge and encouraging discovery when people like you lurk in the corners to convince them otherwise? |
Re: A Story That Shows The Difference Between Nigerian And Western Christians by mmsen: 4:32pm On Oct 13, 2014 |
esere826: Nigeria's issues are not unique. They have happened in every society - the corruption, the disorganization, the gross inequality - none of these things are particular to Nigerian society. Every society is in that state or has been in that state. People will always attempt to 'deviate from the rules', people will attempt to do what is best for them. But if there is an incentive to do what the society says is best then they will do so. America's jails and prisons are full of people who have been adjudged not to have done what is in the best interests of the wider society. However, Nigerians need to get out of this lazy habit of making gods out of foreigners (when they're not pleading with the sky). It is a symptom of an incredibly stupid mind to forever to point to the grass on the other side as being magnificently green - Nigerians have a tendency not to appreciate what they have as a nation. A failure to understand that they are blessed with all of the natural resources a people could ask for is one of Nigeria's biggest problems. The other is the amount of time and engine spent by some in attempting to flee a nation that has everything necessary to prosper, this is a shameful act and should be recognised as such. The only lesson that Nigeria can learn from the Americas is the need to utilize all possible tools (including violence) to assert the rights of the majority. So long as Nigerian citizens continue along their cowardly path things will continue as they have been for the past 50 years. You have to learn to demand more from your leaders or simply replace them. Culture is just a set of rules put in place by those in power to keep them in power. It changes all of the time. |
Re: A Story That Shows The Difference Between Nigerian And Western Christians by mmsen: 4:34pm On Oct 13, 2014 |
spotit: I wish you wrote in comprehensible English so that I could respond to what you said. Pity. |
Re: A Story That Shows The Difference Between Nigerian And Western Christians by Nobody: 4:39pm On Oct 13, 2014 |
mmsen:of course i expected you to not understand me. foolish nigerian. tomorrow u will go and meet your pastor to bind and cast your brother who lent you little money, so that he suddenly goes senile and not remind you about what you owe him. 2 Likes |
Re: A Story That Shows The Difference Between Nigerian And Western Christians by mmsen: 4:47pm On Oct 13, 2014 |
spotit: You failed to write anything factual. I am not religious. I was not born in Nigeria. |
Re: A Story That Shows The Difference Between Nigerian And Western Christians by AjanleKoko: 4:56pm On Oct 13, 2014 |
mmsen: Huh? In your own eyes, you have said something insightful? We are talking about plain and simple moral values, you are here going off on a hard tangemt about African pride and recession? North Americans are not saints. So who are saints? You or your criminal heroes? Keep filling your head and stomach with nonsense. 3 Likes |
Re: A Story That Shows The Difference Between Nigerian And Western Christians by mmsen: 4:59pm On Oct 13, 2014 |
AjanleKoko: You have created a god out of a group of visibly infallible people whilst claiming that those that acquiesce to the demands of their pastor are stupid. You and they are of a similar misguided mind. P.S. Who are my 'criminal heroes'? Again, another assumption. Why can't you people stick to facts instead of creating and clinging to conjecture... |
Re: A Story That Shows The Difference Between Nigerian And Western Christians by esere826: 5:13pm On Oct 13, 2014 |
@mmsen I do feel you. I understand where you are coming from. However, It's good to separate facts from fiction when it is most needed. No society is perfect, but some are more perfect than others. Even folks that curse Lagosians migrate to Lagos while it is hardly the other way round. The article was simple. Devoid of MOG issues and national pride issues. It simply narrates very powerfully the kind of ethical thinking that can diminish a nation vs one that can make a nation sustainably progressive. Even I won't think like the lady in question.. But I know deep in my heart that whereas the Nigerian prayer mentioned in this article if answered will make me rich but, it will make many of my compatriots poor On the other hand, the ladies protest if heeded, is what will make more of my compatriots financially comfortable or at least see food to eat 2 Likes |
Re: A Story That Shows The Difference Between Nigerian And Western Christians by mmsen: 5:33pm On Oct 13, 2014 |
esere826: The article was written from a position of extreme naivete. North American history is a litany of abuses, of people acting contrary to the attitudes expressed by this one nameless and faceless young woman. There's a verified video of a group of young women (as opposed to the one in the story) threatening to accuse a cab driver of rape if he attempted to stop them from smoking in his car (an illegal act). On reaching their destination these young ladies then refused to pay the fare and reinforced their threat. The only thing that saved this man was the fact that there was a video camera in his cab. By the way, this was in Canada. If you want more messed up stories of north American ladies look up Susan Smith. My point is if this were a poll of actions or even of general sentiment I would accept it but to write an unverified story and then present it as somehow reflective is as silly as believing in a centuries old book written in the Middle East. 1 Like |
Re: A Story That Shows The Difference Between Nigerian And Western Christians by Nobody: 5:47pm On Oct 13, 2014 |
mmsen:what we're discussing here is the laziness and dishonesty that over religiousness has etched on the minds of black africans, especially Nigerians...and the complete chaos it has brought with it to stall the nation building process 2 Likes |
Re: A Story That Shows The Difference Between Nigerian And Western Christians by mmsen: 5:59pm On Oct 13, 2014 |
spotit: Religion and ignorance are the same thing. All that has happened here is one ignorant individual has been compared with another - by way of an unverified story. The irony in this thread is astounding... 1 Like |
Re: A Story That Shows The Difference Between Nigerian And Western Christians by Nobody: 6:09pm On Oct 13, 2014 |
mmsen:the reason you chose to call it unverified is because you may not have witnessed anything like it in person. i live overseas i have witnessed it live, to my chagrin. not only in one location, but several other places abroad and when you tune to their tv channels, you'd want to bleed from your eyes. it's very shameful and criminal the way they choose to go about religion and civic responsibilities |
Re: A Story That Shows The Difference Between Nigerian And Western Christians by mmsen: 6:11pm On Oct 13, 2014 |
spotit: You need to stop reading selectively. Go back, read what I've written and then check your last post. The reason I called it unverified is because this is the definition - "not having been confirmed, substantiated, or proven to be true". Ignorance³ in this thread. |
Re: A Story That Shows The Difference Between Nigerian And Western Christians by Nobody: 6:15pm On Oct 13, 2014 |
you're the criminal number one on this thread, i don't expect you to be open to redemption |
Re: A Story That Shows The Difference Between Nigerian And Western Christians by nitrogen(m): 6:27pm On Oct 13, 2014 |
Brother mmsen, whether the story is a verified one or not isn't a concern here, the message it is passing across is real, and living among us, we Africans are guilty, it is the truth, maybe it was a simple analogy, but it doesn't evade the fact that we have lost it morally. Might it interest you that the example up there is just a miniature compared to real life experiences. Brother, please stop pointing an accusing finger because the rest are directly implicating you. 2 Likes |
Re: A Story That Shows The Difference Between Nigerian And Western Christians by mmsen: 6:36pm On Oct 13, 2014 |
nitrogen: 1. That story doesn't resonate with my day to day at all (why can't you people read?) 2. I'm not your brother. |
Re: A Story That Shows The Difference Between Nigerian And Western Christians by nitrogen(m): 7:27pm On Oct 13, 2014 |
mmsen: 1. You know it, you just don't want to admit it. Its there for all to see. 2. Well, you can fvck off my radar. |
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