TheGoodJoe:


You will drop Azubuike Okechukwu for Aneke. I disagree there.

forgiveness:



Olaitan and imoh-ezekiel played regularly on that wing for many years for their various clubs. Even if they are natural strikers, they have proven themselves to be better strikers than the trio you mentioned with the numbers of goals they scored in a season.

Haha! 16, 13 and 12 goals no be beans now.

Tell me how many goals Awoniyi has scored for his present club in the 2 bundesliga this season?

Tell me, how many goals did Success score in previous and present season in the LA liga? Besides he plays as a left Winger for his club .

Iheanacho is not a Striker, he is an attacking midfielder.

TheGoodJoe:


You will drop Azubuike Okechukwu for Aneke. I disagree there.

How many times have you seen Success playing as a left winger?

We are going to play an expansive game. Which means a lot of the ball is going to go wide. We need natural wingers creating for the finisher. So Simon will move to his more favored left.

TheGoodJoe:


How many times has Iheanacho played as an attacking midfielder for Man City. From his preseason games to his loan to America, to the EDS and the current season as Man City, he has played as a forward.

forgiveness:



Olaitan and imoh-ezekiel played regularly on that wing for many years for their various clubs. Even if they are natural strikers, they have proven themselves to be better strikers than the trio you mentioned with the numbers of goals they scored in a season.

Haha! 16, 13 and 12 goals no be beans now.

Tell me how many goals Awoniyi has scored for his present club in the 2 bundesliga this season?

Tell me, how many goals did Success score in previous and present season in the LA liga? Besides he plays as a left Winger for his club .

Iheanacho is not a Striker, he is an attacking midfielder.

forgiveness:


OK, let's say he played as a second Striker. Even, Pellgerin said so.

forgiveness:



Bros, we know Victor Moses played vital roles on our way to lifting the Nations Cup trophy. True or false?

That is what matters most.

Saviour case is not any way similar to Moses Simon.

Moses Simon has played 14 matches( out of 19 league games) and spent 815 minutes on the pitch this season. He has scored only one goal in the league with many assist while Saviour has played only 2 matches out of 19 league matches and spent 12 minutes on the pitch in his first year in a professional league. So, how is that similar to each other now?

OK, [b]who do think Saviour can bench out of these players( Moses Simon, Michael Olaitan and Isaac Success)?

[/b]Remember, the slot is for only Wingers.

Less I forget, you said English league is overrated.

Where did Ronaldo win the best player in the world before moving to Madrid?

Where did Michael Owen win the best player in the world?

How come this overrated league clubs played in the finals of UEFA Champions League regularly in between 1999 - 2012?

enomakos:
hahaha
we need him bro

forgiveness:


I saw him play there for Granada this season. That was were he scored his 3 goals this season. I saw him score from there with my two korokoro eyes.

TheGoodJoe:


Imoh Ezekiel and Olaitan may bang goals for their clubs. Awo is already a tested player for Siasia. The coached worked with him and he is in the team. Even if he brings Ezekiel and Olaitan, they have to perform in camp to topple him.

We are not saying Coach Siasia should not give them a chance. We are against them having a preference. Even Nacho should fight for his place despite his exploits at City.

As for Success, he is in a top league with a sh!!t team. There is no way he can pull in numbers in that situation but he is a natural finisher. Coach Siasia knows why he called Success before the likes of Ezekiel and Olaitan. If Success was in their positions, I can stake he will outscore their performances.

TheGoodJoe:


He replaced Bony in some games and played as a top man. Pellegrini was trying to dodge his mistake of not playing Nacho upfront after Bony picked up an injury early in the game.

Since then, Nacho has played as a top man. He is now a striker. It is just that Pellegrini likes his strikers playing like attack midfielders when they drop deep. You see this mostly from Aguero who used to play as an attacking midfielder in Independiente and Atletico Madrid.

Icon4s:


Hope you know the position Saviour plays?

BascoVanVeli:


Success and Iheanacho are miles ahead of any player you have mentioned and to say that what's his face is more skilled than Iheanacho in front of goal is not true.

krattoss:
i foresee uncalled insults and jibes if I continue this argument

forgiveness:
Some of the players I suggested to be included in the list are unknown to some of us. I have taken it upon myself to introduce these unknown players. Hoping that Siasia will give them the chance to prove themselves.


1, Dominic Solanke: Nothing is known about this player in his parternial country but alot is known about him in his maternal country. He was able to make a name for himself when he helped Chelsea under 19 team and England to win the UEFA Youth Champions League and UEFA under 17 Championship respectively. And also became the youngest player to debut for Chelsea in the UEFA Champions League at the age of 17. He became the highest goal scorer with 12 goals out of 9 matches at the 2014/2015 UEFA Youth Champions League, in a competition our dear Kelechi Iheanacho and Alex Iwobi participated in. He scored two goals in the semi final that eliminated Roma U19, the team that eliminated Iheanacho's Manchester-City U19 in the Quarter finals with 2 :1. The match ended 4-0. Solanke was also part of the England squad that won UEFA under 17 Championship in 2014. He also became the tournament top scorer with 4 goals. At the end of the season he scored 41 goals. This made him to receive individual laurels...... e.g 2014/2015 UEFA Youth Champions League top scorer , 2014 UEFA European Under 17 goal Scorer of the year, Chelsea Academy player of the year: 2014/2015 and England Youth player of the year 2014. He received medal for Chelsea winning the Premier League and FA cup. Because Solanke was too much for the Chelsea Academy set up, he was loaded out the next season to Viteses in the Eredivisie for current 2015/2016 season. He has not disappointed so far by scoring 4 goals in the league so far. At just 18, he has been able to start 11 matches out of 14 league games, and he has 995 minutes of football in his first season in a professional league.

joseph1013:


I knew you would include Iheanacho in your praise of Solanke, and I also knew you wont tell us that Iheanacho only got introduced only two months to the end of the season.

You said he was too much for the Academy and thus loaned out to the Dutch league. Yet an Iheanacho that became fit just two months to the end of the season did enough for the team such that a star-studded Man City could not do but include him in their first team where most fans rate him higher than Bony.

Solanke was so good yet he could not even nail a 3rd striker spot in a Chelsea team even though Drogba announced his retirement, yet Kelechi was so far behind him that an accomplished player like Dzeko was sent on loan and a replacement was not brought in for his sake.

Can anyone see the irony in your argument?

forgiveness:



Bros, We all know that young talented players don't stand a chance in Chelsea as long as Morinho is the coach.

He could not make use of Oscar, Schurle, Salah (Roma), Guardado(Juventus), Kevin (Man City) etc but these players are doing very well for all the clubs they are currently playing for.

It Mourinho's philosophy that destroys young talented players.

However, I did nothing wrong to have mentioned that Iheanacho was part of the competition even if he only got introduced two months to the end of the season. It's still on record.

However, after he settled down Solanke under 19 Chelsea team defeated Man City U19 team in the FA Youth Cup Final, Where they scored a goal each. They game ended 5-2 on aggregate..

safarigirl:
TB Joshua's first son....like I said, we are in December, I'll get back to you in January if I remember you

robosky02:

we dont need back passer
we need good forward passer

robosky02:

we dont need back passer
we need good forward passer

joseph1013:



You said he was too much for the Academy and thus loaned out to the Dutch league. Yet an Iheanacho that became fit just two months to the end of the season did enough for the team such that a star-studded Man City could not do but include him in their first team where most fans rate him higher than Bony.

Solanke was so good yet he could not even nail a 3rd striker spot in a Chelsea team even though Drogba announced his retirement, yet Kelechi was so far behind him that an accomplished player like Dzeko was sent on loan and a replacement was not brought in for his sake.

Can anyone see the irony in your argument? You bet!

joseph1013:


[b]Unfortunately, I mistakenly pressed SUBMIT before finishing my thoughts. You may see my elucidated points now.

When we say that Mourinho does not like young talents, it is mostly in reference to foreign talents. Mourinho has shown alot of disposition to English players. In 2004/2005 season, he kept a mediocre players like Anthony Grant (18) and Joe Tillen (who was 19) on the squad. Glen Johnson (21) was a part of the squad. Mourinho bought Scott Parker (23). He retained Wayne Bridge (24), Joe Cole (24), Lampard (25) and trusted a 24-year old John Terry with the Captaincy band. You cannot accuse him of bias against English youth players. You can't! For those that are good enough, he used them. Or can you tell me of an English player that Mou rejected that went on to set the league on fire?

Let's fast forward to 2015/2016 season. Mourinho brought from the youth team Ruben Loftus-Cheek. Notice that Loftus and Solanke played in the Youth team together, yet it was Solanke that was loaned out while Loftus was promoted to the main team. They are both English.

What was very interesting about that decision is that Loftus should have been the one to be loaned out cos he had great competition in his position. Fabregas, Ramires, Matic, Mikel, and Oscar are players way ahead of him who can play the Central Midfield Position. What competition did Solanke have in his position? Remy and Costa. In fact it was so bad that instead of Mou to promote Solanke, he went to bring an off-form Falcao from United. It was that sad.

You will have us believe that Solanke is the best Youth talent Nigeria has right now in Europe (because let's face it, if you say he is better than Kelechi, Awoniyi and Success who are arguably our most promising players, then you're saying he is the best), yet he was not good enough for a depleted Chelsea forward department.

Bro, statistics are not in your favour on this.[/b]

forgiveness:


First of all, you have to consider that Solanke was only 17 years old before the 2015/2016 league commenced. So, there is no need for you to compare him with those players.

However, Dominic Solanke is not fully English, he is a Nigerian/Foreign. As you can see from his name.

How many league games has Loftus played this season for Chelsea first team? Loftus is 19 while Solanke was 17 prior to the new season.

You say what bros? Do you mean what competition Solanke have in Diego Costa( a player that scored 21 league goals in the just concluded season) and Remy(a player that scored a total of 21 goals in his last two league seasons)?

We know that Falcao was plagued with injury for 7 months(Jan - July 2014) before he left Monaco for Manchester United. Meaning he didn't play competitive football for almost a season and that affected his performance in his first season at Manchester United. It doesn't mean he is a bad player. Falcao is among the best strikers in the world in recent times.

As you can see, he is faced with prolific goal scorer at the age of 17. That doesn't dispute the fact that he's better than the trio you mentioned at his age to have achieved all those things.

We know kelechi-iheanacho his 19 but he may even be.... You know what I saying.

Where is Taiwo playing for now?

Success never near him achievement now.

forgiveness:


First of all, you have to consider that Solanke was only 17 years old before the 2015/2016 league commenced. So, there is no need for you to compare him with those players.

However, Dominic Solanke is not fully English, he is a Nigerian/Foreign. As you can see from his name.

How many league games has Loftus played this season for Chelsea first team? Loftus is 19 while Solanke was 17 prior to the new season.

You say what bros? Do you mean what competition Solanke have in Diego Costa( a player that scored 21 league goals in the just concluded season) and Remy(a player that scored a total of 21 goals in his last two league seasons)?

We know that Falcao was plagued with injury for 7 months(Jan - July 2014) before he left Monaco for Manchester United. Meaning he didn't play competitive football for almost a season and that affected his performance in his first season at Manchester United. It doesn't mean he is a bad player. Falcao is among the best strikers in the world in recent times.

As you can see, he is faced with prolific goal scorer at the age of 17. That doesn't dispute the fact that he's better than the trio you mentioned at his age to have achieved all those things.

We know kelechi-iheanacho his 19 but he may even be.... You know what I am saying.

Where is Taiwo playing for now?

Success never near him achievement now.

joseph1013:


@the bolded. Ever since safarigirl wrote her article about the Golden Eaglets and Age controversies, I have decided not to continue in a debate with anyone who cast doubt on Nigerian players who passed the MRI test.

See you on another topic.

forgiveness:


First of all, you have to consider that Solanke was only 17 years old before the 2015/2016 league commenced. So, there is no need for you to compare him with those players.

However, Dominic Solanke is not fully English, he is a Nigerian/Foreign. As you can see from his name.

How many league games has Loftus played this season for Chelsea first team? Loftus is 19 while Solanke was 17 prior to the new season.

You say what bros? Do you mean, what competition does Solanke have in the likes of Diego Costa( a player that scored 21 league goals in the just concluded season) and Remy(a player that scored a total of 21 goals in his last two league seasons)?

We know that Falcao was plagued with injury for 7 months(Jan - July 2014) before he left Monaco for Manchester United. Meaning he didn't play competitive football for almost a season and that affected his performance in his first season at Manchester United. It doesn't mean he is a bad player. Falcao is among the best strikers in the world in recent times.

As you can see, he is faced with prolific goal scorer at the age of 17. That doesn't dispute the fact that he's better than the trio you mentioned at his age to have achieved all those things.

We know kelechi-iheanacho is 19 years while Solanke was 17 years prior to the 2015 /2016 season.

There was no need for Man City to add another striker because it was obvious that Man City used only one inform striker last season and that striker(Aguero) scored a total of 32 goals with 8 assist last season hence Man City bought Wilfred Bony from Swansea in the middle of the last season. As you can see, Man City already bought a replacement for Dzeko. What you said is not true.

Iheanacho got his chance because their inform striker got injured and the newly acquired is struggling. That's all.

Where is Taiwo playing for now?

Success never near him achievement now.

Last bullet; Chelsea no be Manchester city mate now when it comes to football(Premier-league & UEFA Champions League) na.

Star students o sorry star studded wey no fit beat Dutch Champions in the 2012/2013 UEFA Champions League .

Start students(for Europe) wey no fit come out from UEFA round of 16 until now wey Chelsea don't dey do tey tey

Chelsea are contenders while Manchester city are pretenders when it comes to UEFA Champions League.

TheGoodJoe:


[b]Do not play the age card, Nacho passed the MRI. Solanke is a promising talent but, the likes of Success, Nacho, Awo are stars plucked out from our system.

The Coaches can give Solanke a chance but, that boy has his eyes on England. Let us face it, they wait to see if England can give them a chance before Nigeria.

Ibe's case is enough to help you understand this.

Nacho's name is not from Academy goals, in two preseason tours with Man City, he was among the standout talents in a star studded City.

Dzeko was a big City talent, Jovetic was also brilliant. These two left, Pellegrini bought Bony and left Iheanacho to fill the other.

That shows the kind of faith the club has in him.

Solanke might have Reserve team goals but Nacho showed his quality playing for the main City team. Despite few games due to injuries, the coaches ticked him as class.

His man of the match performance in the Carling Cup against a strong EPL side like Crystal Palace was amazing. He dominated a field with a star studded City.

When Solanke puts in a man of the match performance against a strong EPL side, I will start taking him seriously as a match to Nacho.[/b]

joseph1013:


@the bolded. Ever since safarigirl wrote her article about the Golden Eaglets and Age controversies, I have decided not to continue in a debate with anyone who cast doubt on Nigerian players who passed the MRI test.

See you on another topic.