This is the mandate God gave to mankind in the beginning
Genesis 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and REPLENISH THE EARTH , and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
So., our primary purpose on earth is to replenish this earth and God has not changed his mind about this.
How come churches are now saying that the reason why we are on earth is to win souls to prepare for rapture ?
That when rapture comes, God will take us to heaven and destroy this world?
Why will God create man in the beginning and ask him to replenish this world, only for him to come and destroy what man have put his effort to replenish over the years?
Is God that confused? (I'm speaking like a man )
I know winning soul is part of it, But it is not the main thing.

are you saying there is no rapture? have you read 1 Corinthians 15:52 which says, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.?

that Scripture is not talking about rapture, we have proved it before. it is talking about the day we will die, we all will die someday, to we Christians, death is like twinkling of the eye (like blinking the eye, close and open again less than a second ) and we will be alive again, this time, with a new body as a new born baby in the womb of another woman.
the sound of the trumpet there is like calling us, using trumpet, that our time has reached to die, our life has ended, so death is the end,it is actually a sleep(during which there will be judgement,as it is appointed once for men to die,after that,judgement)
but we will come back to life again just a matter of less than one seconds,after the judgement, to continue our eternal life here on earth
we have proved all that before, read that 1cor 15 down and understand the whole chapter

paxonel:
This is the mandate God gave to mankind in the beginning
Genesis 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and REPLENISH THE EARTH , and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
So., our primary purpose on earth is to replenish this earth and God has not changed his mind about this.
How come churches are now saying that the reason why we are on earth is to win souls to prepare for rapture ?
That when rapture comes, God will take us to heaven and destroy this world?
Why will God create man in the beginning and ask him to replenish this world, only for him to come and destroy what man have put his effort to replenish over the years?
Is God that confused? (I'm speaking like a man )
I know winning soul is part of it, But it is not the main thing.

so, what do you think is the main thing if not winning souls for Christ?

paxonel:
This is the mandate God gave to mankind in the beginning
Genesis 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and REPLENISH THE EARTH , and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
So., our primary purpose on earth is to replenish this earth and God has not changed his mind about this.
How come churches are now saying that the reason why we are on earth is to win souls to prepare for rapture ?
That when rapture comes, God will take us to heaven and destroy this world?
Why will God create man in the beginning and ask him to replenish this world, only for him to come and destroy what man have put his effort to replenish over the years?
Is God that confused? (I'm speaking like a man )
I know winning soul is part of it, But it is not the main thing.

my guy, God has rejected that mandate of replenishing the earth, it was in the old testament, the new commandment is to win souls for Christ. read Matthew 28:19

Iceflox:
are you saying there is no rapture? have you read 1 Corinthians 15:52 which says, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.?

rapture is a vague concept, I don't believe in it. it is again to instill the hope of everlasting life in the mind of a deluded believer and it is just a huge hopelessness

op, there is nothing like rapture

urheme:


rapture is a vague concept, I don't believe in it. it is again to instill the hope of everlasting life in the mind of a deluded believer and it is just a huge hopelessness

op, there is nothing like rapture

what is this in 1 Thessalonians 4:16
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
is this not rapture?
this world is very sinful, we are tired, everything should just fold up

paxonel:
that Scripture is not talking about rapture, we have proved it before. it is talking about the day we will die, we all will die someday, to we Christians, death is like twinkling of the eye (like blinking the eye, close and open again less than a second ) and we will be alive again, this time, with a new body as a new born baby in the womb of another woman.
the sound of the trumpet there is like calling us, using trumpet, that our time has reached to die, our life has ended, so death is the end,it is actually a sleep(during which there will be judgement,as it is appointed once for men to die,after that,judgement)
but we will come back to life again just a matter of less than one seconds,after the judgement, to continue our eternal life here on earth
we have proved all that before, read that 1cor 15 down and understand the whole chapter

The way you people twist the scripture is quite pathetic. You people think that the scripture will fulfill in line with your interpretation. Wake up bro. Dont be afraid of the coming our Lord Jesus rather prepare yourself.

Iceflox:

so, what do you think is the main thing if not winning souls for Christ?

this is the big picture of God
God wanted mankind to replenish this world he created, mankind messed up by comiting sin, as a result, death came and there was no hope to fulfill the mandate of replenishing the earth.
to help mankind fulfil the mandate, God send Jesus to die to restore the eternal life that mankind lost.
right now, the eternal life is here with us, we are gradually fulfilling the mandate whether we know it or not
so there is nothing like rapture

honourhim:


The way you people twist the scripture is quite pathetic. You people think that the scripture will fulfill in line with your interpretation. Wake up bro. Dont be afraid of the coming our Lord Jesus rather prepare yourself.

the comming of Jesus is different day for different people, Jesus will come to judge us the very day we die

paxonel:

the comming of Jesus is different day for different people, Jesus will come to judge us the very day we die

so, what you are saying is that ,live continues, no rapture?

paxonel:

this is the big picture of God
God wanted mankind to replenish this world he created, mankind messed up by comiting sin, as a result, death came and there was no hope to fulfill the mandate of replenishing the earth.
to help mankind fulfil the mandate, God send Jesus to die to restore the eternal life that mankind lost.
right now, the eternal life is here with us, we are gradually fulfilling the mandate whether we know it or not
so there is nothing like rapture

so, what is your idea of replenishing the earth or what it means?are we truly fulfilling or replenishing this earth? can't you see the rumours of war, the earthquake everywhere as predicted by Jesus in Matthew 24, which are the signs of the coming of Jesus, the rapture and end of the world? you are not spiritually minded at all

you people are just saying rubbish, there is rapture

Iceflox:

what is this in 1 Thessalonians 4:16
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
is this not rapture?
this world is very sinful, we are tired, everything should just fold up

What a selfish ambition!!!
The world will not fold, if you are tired, better write your will and rapture your self into heavenly bliss.

Imagine the verse you have quoted "voice of archangle"
Where God voice go?

Some people woke up from wet dreams and incorporated a concept of everlasting life in to a book so as to make you governable,

No body lives forever

Iceflox:

what is this in 1 Thessalonians 4:16
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
is this not rapture?
this world is very sinful, we are tired, everything should just fold up

i guess your main point should be verse 17 which says,Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
this Scripture actually appear to be rapture, but it is not.
just look at it from this angle, we are already in the clouds in the air (what is known as heaven in those days ). we are in heaven already.
heaven is in us, the kingdom of God is right inside us

Alexis86:

so, what you are saying is that ,live continues, no rapture?

exactly, no rapture, life continues, the kingdom of God on earth is forever, no end

Iceflox:

so, what is your idea of replenishing the earth or what it means?are we truly fulfilling or replenishing this earth? can't you see the rumours of war, the earthquake everywhere as predicted by Jesus in Matthew 24, which are the signs of the coming of Jesus, the rapture and end of the world? you are not spiritually minded at all

to replenish the earth simply means to build this earth, to develop it.
over the years in the history of life ,mankind has evolved from one stage of development to the other. the era that we are living now is the era of enlightenment, that means, the days of the bible were primitive days.
God who is alive from the beginning has recorded this change and he is happy with it.
it will truly make sense to you when you travel out of the shores of this country to see how white men has developed their world, because they are more enlightened than us

paxonel:

to replenish the earth simply means to build this earth, to develop it.
over the years in the history of life ,mankind has evolved from one stage of development to the other. the era that we are living now is the era of enlightenment, that means, the days of the bible were primitive days.
God who is alive from the beginning has recorded this change and he is happy with it.
it will truly make sense to you when you travel out of the shores of this country to see how white men has developed their world, because they are more enlightened than us

stop deceicing people, this world will come to an end, don't be enlighten more than God. education has spoil this generation

urheme:


What a selfish ambition!!!
The world will not fold, if you are tired, better write your will and rapture your self into heavenly bliss.

Imagine the verse you have quoted "voice of archangle"
Where God voice go?

Some people woke up from wet dreams and incorporated a concept of everlasting life in to a book so as to make you governable,

No body lives forever

i can see that you are not a Christian, no comment.

paxonel:
This is the mandate God gave to mankind in the beginning
Genesis 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and REPLENISH THE EARTH , and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
So., our primary purpose on earth is to replenish this earth and God has not changed his mind about this.
How come churches are now saying that the reason why we are on earth is to win souls to prepare for rapture ?
That when rapture comes, God will take us to heaven and destroy this world?
Why will God create man in the beginning and ask him to replenish this world, only for him to come and destroy what man have put his effort to replenish over the years?
Is God that confused? (I'm speaking like a man )
I know winning soul is part of it, But it is not the main thing.

Where did you hear about the rapture? What did they tell you will happen after the rapture?

paxonel:

to replenish the earth simply means to build this earth, to develop it.
over the years in the history of life ,mankind has evolved from one stage of development to the other. the era that we are living now is the era of enlightenment, that means, the days of the bible were primitive days.
God who is alive from the beginning has recorded this change and he is happy with it.
it will truly make sense to you when you travel out of the shores of this country to see how white men has developed their world, because they are more enlightened than us

you are right!

paxonel:

exactly, no rapture, life continues, the kingdom of God on earth is forever, no end

the kingdom of God is not on earth, it s in heaven

Iceflox:

stop deceicing people, this world will come to an end, don't be enlighten more than God. education has spoil this generation

search yourself

Image123:


Where did you hear about the rapture? What did they tell you will happen after the rapture?

they say Christ will come one day and very soon, to blow a trumpet from the cloud and gather believers to heaven, there after God will destroy this world, imagin.
i think this is a primitive concept from some ancient primitive theologians and Africa has been a victim of this misconception over the years

Alexis86:

you are right!

thanks

paxonel:

they say Christ will come one day and very soon, to blow a trumpet from the cloud and gather believers to heaven, there after God will destroy this world, imagin.
i think this is a primitive concept from some ancient primitive theologians and Africa has been a victim of this misconception over the years

You didn't listen to the full gist i guess.

Iceflox:

the kingdom of God is not on earth, it s in heaven

really?
ok, how about
Colossians 1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
which says that we have been translated into the kingdom already? and not in the future?
can't you see that the very thing you are looking for by running to church ,is right inside you?

Image123:


You didn't listen to the full gist i guess.

may be!
because, that is the idea i heard about rapture

paxonel:


really?
ok, how about
Colossians 1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
which says that we have been translated into the kingdom already? and not in the future?
can't you see that the very thing you are looking for by running to church ,is right inside you?

you can tell me the kingdom of God is this life that is full of suffering, do people still suffer in heaven. i thought heaven should be a place where everything work out smoothly without any work or any form of stress

Iceflox:

you can tell me the kingdom of God is this life that is full of suffering, do people still suffer in heaven. i thought heaven should be a place where everything work out smoothly without any work or any form of stress

so, you don't want to work?... lol

paxonel:


really?
ok, how about
Colossians 1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
which says that we have been translated into the kingdom already? and not in the future?
can't you see that the very thing you are looking for by running to church ,is right inside you?

guy, leave church out of this. even the kingdom of God you are talking about is the church, Jesus says i will build my church and the gate of hell shall not prevail against it

Alexis86:

guy, leave church out of this. even the kingdom of God you are talking about is the church, Jesus says i will build my church and the gate of hell shall not prevail against it

I'm not saying he shouldn't go to church, too much church going is bad, you will be seen as a religious person.
thank God you know that heaven is THE CHURCH , so why the anticipation of rapture?
unfortunately, churches this days have involved in activities that are making them vulnerable to the gate of hell