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Understand Islam As A Religion Of Peace. by Alisha4U(f): 4:46am On Dec 01, 2014
Abdallah Bulgasem Zehaf-Bibeau, the crackhead turned Jihadist spawned by the mating of a Canadian immigration official and a Libyan Muslim Jihadist, just wanted peace.

He told a co-worker, “There can’t be world peace until there’s only Muslims.” Then he tried to usher in peace, the Islamic way, by opening fire near the Canadian parliament.

Meanwhile in Israel a reporter interviewing Arab Muslim settlers in Jerusalem found that they too wanted peace. On their terms.

“Yes we want peace,” one of them said, “but peace means no Jews.”

When negotiating peace with other cultures it’s a good idea to make sure that the words you are using mean the same thing. Most Muslims and Westerners want peace. But to Westerners peace means co-existence. To Muslims, peace means the end of your existence.

Ideas carry heavy cultural baggage. Peace in the West summons up images of Armistice Day, of the Christmas Truce of WW1 in which French, German and English soldiers could share meals and play soccer together. It carries with it the subversive idea that both sides realize the war isn’t worth fighting.

Such a subversive idea has no place in Islam. The Jihad is at the heart of Islam. To question the holy war is to also question the faith. When war is religion then peace through setting aside war is heresy.

The Western idea of peace is a wholly alien one to Islam. In Islam, peace does not come from men transcending their differences, but from destroying men who think and live differently. That is the function of the religious police of our allied “moderate Muslim” countries who seek out the practice of other religions and other ways of living in places like Saudi Arabia and suppress their practitioners.

Islamic peace does not come from diversity, from accepting the existence of other nations, religions and peoples, but from unity through Islam and eliminating as many differences as possible. If Islam is the source of peace, then all that which is “not Islam” is the cause of war.

Kill the Jews. Kill the Christians. Then there will be peace.

The Islamic idea of peace was aptly expressed by Zehaf-Bibeau and our anonymous Jerusalem Jihadist. It is not based on a recognition of the humanity of one’s fellow man, but on a rejection of their humanity.

As Mohammed curtly put it in missives to the leaders of non-Muslim countries in the region, “Aslim, Taslam.” Convert to Islam and you’ll have peace. The same message has been dispatched by Muslim leaders today to popes and presidents. It’s a message of peace on the only terms that Islam allows.

Islam is the religion of peace. For there to be peace, Islam must be supreme. Within the Islamic worldview, conflict is caused by the existence of dissent. The only way to achieve peace is by forcing the submission of every human being to the correct strain of Islam. “Moderates” may agree to let Jews and Christians live as inferior second-class citizens if they submit to Muslims. “Extremists” will skip straight to raping and beheading them. And once that ugly business is done, there will be peace.

Or there will be peace once the “moderates” and “extremists” have finished killing each other, once the Sunnis and Shiites have finished beheading each other, and once every single Muslim has finished slaughtering every other Muslim who in any way dissents from his understanding of Islam.

That’s the brand of peace we’re seeing in Iraq and Syria today. Or the peace process between Israel and the Arab Muslims who were rebranded as “Palestinians” because it made them seem like a local flavor.

Islam rejects the idea that mutual empathy should transcend conflict. Instead it believes that war should transcend humanity. Or as the Koran puts it, “Warfare is ordained for you, though it is hateful unto you; but it may happen that ye hate a thing which is good for you, and it may happen that ye love a thing which is bad for you. Allah knoweth, ye know not.”

The Western tradition is biased toward the peace of co-existence. It applies the logic of armistice toward all areas of life leading to the championing of multiculturalism and immigration. Its siren song is John Lennon’s Imagine with its call for an end to borders, nations, religions and property. Its ideal of peace comes from the end of structure and separation between people.

The Islamic idea of peace however affirms a structure and separation based on the Koran. It believes that there will be peace when everyone is forced to live within the strictures of Islam. And therefore there can be no genuine peace with non-Muslims who do not submit to Islam.

These two incompatible notions of peace continue to collide. Imagine if French soldiers had clambered out to sing and play soccer only to be gunned down by German soldiers who had a fundamentally different idea of peace. This was actually how WW2 was shaped as the victorious side played by outdated rules while Nazi Germany, Japan and the USSR shifted to a thoroughly totalitarian mentality.

Munich was a disaster because Hitler was not the Kaiser. The other side was no longer willing to play by any rules, even in diplomatic negotiations, or to accept anything short of total victory. The Allies were forced to match their enemies in a ruthless war that saw entire cities destroyed.

The Nazis and Communists were the products of years of indoctrination that taught them to see opponents as less than human and peace as being obtainable only through their destruction. Japan, which had a longer history of dehumanizing outsiders, proved to be an even tougher nut to crack.

Islam has a history of over a thousand years of continuously dehumanizing non-Muslims and identifying peace and their enslavement as one and the same. It is impossible to live in peace with Muslims who think that there can be no peace as long as non-Muslims continue to live independent lives.

In the Muslim worldview, war happens because non-Muslims exist. War is caused by the infidel, the disbeliever and the Muslim hypocrite who does not truly commit to the practice of Islam. The Jihad purifies the world of non-Muslims; it eradicates the “moderate” Muslims who have been compromised by Western culture. It is a war of extermination against the un-Islamic.

When Westerners propose peace, Muslims reject them as hypocrites for speaking of peace, but refusing to accept the only religion that can bring peace. They feel no obligation to honor any peace agreements since peace can only come from Islam and the Western rejection of Islam proves our deceitfulness and bad intentions. This dynamic is inherent in the Koran and the entire history of Islam.

Islam does not obtain peace through peace, but through war. It seeks a world without conflict by killing anyone who might disagree with its totalitarian ideology.

Proposing the peace of co-existence to an ideology to which peace means its own supremacy is a foolish and deranged act. Our outreach to the Muslim world does not lack for a common language, but for common ideas. Both sides may speak of peace, but for one side peace really means war.

Languages are not only made up of words, but of values. It is not enough to bring a dictionary to a negotiation if the two parties are reading from different moral and ethical traditions. Just because we translate “Salaam” as peace and agree that we both want peace does not mean that we have the same idea of what peace is.

The West sees peace as living side by side with Muslims. Muslims see peace as the end of the West.

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Daniel Greenfield, a Shillman Journalism Fellow at the Freedom Center, is a New York writer focusing on radical Islam. He is completing a book on the international challenges America faces in the 21st century

visit www.faithfreedom.org

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Re: Understand Islam As A Religion Of Peace. by SirHouloo(m): 6:00am On Dec 01, 2014
It isn't a western thing alone, we can see what we are facing in Nigeria today. Culturally, any believe that support killing and maiming of fellow humans is evil and it is high time we understood religion with reasoning.
Re: Understand Islam As A Religion Of Peace. by Anomnity: 9:23am On Dec 01, 2014
OP this thread fully agrees with you unreservedly:-
https://www.nairaland.com/1834437/saw-worrisome-reality-it-made
Re: Understand Islam As A Religion Of Peace. by Alisha4U(f): 6:42pm On Dec 01, 2014
Anomnity:
OP this thread fully agrees with you unreservedly:-
https://www.nairaland.com/1834437/saw-worrisome-reality-it-made

Yea, I agree with you
Re: Understand Islam As A Religion Of Peace. by Maamin(m): 7:37pm On Dec 01, 2014
Damn this shit is good hope nobody here have diabetes? grin
Re: Understand Islam As A Religion Of Peace. by BossTtdiamonds(m): 7:57pm On Dec 01, 2014
I thought there's an Islam section for Muslims...
Re: Understand Islam As A Religion Of Peace. by Religionsection(f): 9:00pm On Dec 01, 2014
Is it the boredom virus ravaging your wilderness section that makes you to come here and post something that's doesn't concern us?
Be wise, madam..
Nairaland.com/islam
Re: Understand Islam As A Religion Of Peace. by Youngsage: 9:23pm On Dec 01, 2014
I thought you guys had a section all to yourselves? What is the meaning of this? Why then post this here?
Now who is going to ban alisha4u
Re: Understand Islam As A Religion Of Peace. by Anomnity: 4:36am On Dec 02, 2014
Religionsection:
Is it the boredom virus ravaging your wilderness section that makes you to come here and post something that's doesn't concern us?
Be wise, madam..
Nairaland.com/islam
Someone is saying the truth about Islam for the first time and you are busy antagonizing her.Can't you read?

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Re: Understand Islam As A Religion Of Peace. by Anomnity: 4:39am On Dec 02, 2014
Youngsage:
I thought you guys had a section all to yourselves? What is the meaning of this? Why then post this here?
Now who is going to ban alisha4u
Someone is exposing the defects of islam and you are whinning.So even non muslims hate the truth about Islam.And how do you know she's muslim.

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Re: Understand Islam As A Religion Of Peace. by Youngsage: 12:03pm On Dec 02, 2014
Anomnity:

Someone is exposing the defects of islam and you are whinning.So even non muslims hate the truth about Islam.And how do you know she's muslim.
okay. I think I now know why this was posted here... Just re-read the o.p.
smiley
Re: Understand Islam As A Religion Of Peace. by dorox(m): 12:24pm On Dec 02, 2014
I doubt if a genuine muslim can fault what was said about islam in the article.
Re: Understand Islam As A Religion Of Peace. by soonest(f): 12:28pm On Dec 02, 2014
No wonder peace is illusive wherever Muslims exist. Our idea of peace is very different from theirs. Nice one Op
Re: Understand Islam As A Religion Of Peace. by dorox(m): 1:59pm On Dec 02, 2014
"Islam is a religion of peace". This has to qualify as the biggest joke of this century. I wonder which comedian was the first to come up with the joke.

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Re: Understand Islam As A Religion Of Peace. by Religionsection(f): 2:34pm On Dec 02, 2014
Anomnity:

Someone is saying the truth about Islam for the first time and you are busy antagonizing her.Can't you read?
How did I Antagonize her?
I simply tell her to take the topic to the right place.. This is meant for the Muslims to see what they are all about, and I don't think this section is good for that!
Re: Understand Islam As A Religion Of Peace. by Alisha4U(f): 12:52pm On Mar 13, 2015
Religionsection:

How did I Antagonize her?
I simply tell her to take the topic to the right place.. This is meant for the Muslims to see what they are all about, and I don't think this section is good for that!

I know how difficult it is to read a simple article but please manage and read the article or even half of it before commenting.
Re: Understand Islam As A Religion Of Peace. by Ifeann(f): 1:04pm On Mar 13, 2015
Alisha4U this is a very insightful post. . it makes more sense when the commands in the quran is read

“And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their
testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God.”-Revelation
20:4
https://www.nairaland.com/2142658/graphic-pictures-christians-
slaughtered-islamic
the usual standard muslim response that
those muslims who kill non muslims are:
1) Tiny minority
2) Misunderstaders of Islam
3) Not true muslims
4) Are zionist agents sponsored by the CIA to tarnish the image of Islam
5) They do not understand quran in 'original' arabic
6) The dont go to mosque regularly.
7) They have been radicalized
They dont represent the 1.5billion muslims.
9) They are marginalized by the govt.
10) It is the fault of the victims who offend the fragile sensibilty of
muslims
11) alllah know the best.
And other standardized excuses that islamic apologist give anytime their
foot-soldiers go on a killing spree.


People often wonder why a lot of Muslim riots and protests occur after
Friday prayers and why people like jihad john, Osama and other
terrorists are devout mosque attending Muslims.
Most moderate Muslims will use AL TAQIYYA or ignorance and quote this
non-compulsion of religion verse: Qu'ran2: 256
Sahih International
"There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion. The right
course has become clear from the wrong. So whoever disbelieves in
Taghut and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold
with no break in it. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing."
But they refuse to mention the other verses which compels their terrible
religion on others. Remember the quran is a book that is filled with
contractions and abrogations and even commands for Muslims to lie and
deceive infidels eg Kitman and al Taqiyya..
Here is a little sample of the over 100 quran verses Islamic terrorists
use to justify their acts of terror as commanded by Mohammed with
total disregard for the non-complusion of religion earlier stated ;
Qur’an 9:29—Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor
hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His
Messenger, nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth, from among the
People of the Book, until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and
feel themselves subdued.
Qur’an 9:28—O ye who believe! Truly the Pagans are unclean; so let
them not, after this year of theirs, approach the Sacred Mosque. And if
ye fear poverty, soon will Allah enrich you, if He wills, out of His bounty,
for Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise.
Qur’an 9:30—The Jews call Uzair a son of God, and the Christians call
Christ the son of God. That is a saying from their mouth; (In this) they
but imitate what the Unbelievers of old used to say. Allah’s curse be on
them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!
Qur’an 9:31—They take their priests and their anchorites to be their
lords in derogation of Allah, and (they take as their Lord) Christ, the
son of Mary; yet they were commanded to worship but One God: there is
no god but He. Praise and glory to Him: (Far is He) from having the
partners they associate (with Him).
Qur’an 9:32—Fain would they extinguish Allah’s Light with their mouths,
but Allah will not allow but that His Light should be perfected, even
though the Unbelievers may detest (it).
Qur’an 9:33—It is He Who hath sent His Messenger with Guidance and
the Religion of Truth, to prevail it over all religion, even though the
Pagans may detest (it).
Qur’an 5:51—O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians
for friends; they are friends of each other.
Qur’an 9:73—O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the
hypocrites and be unyielding to them.
Qur’an 9:111—Surely Allah has bought of the believers their persons and
their property for this, that they shall have the garden; they fight in
Allah's way, so they slay and are slain.
Qur’an 9:123—O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are
near to you and let them find in you hardness.
Qur’an 47:35—Be not weary and fainthearted, crying for peace, when
ye should be uppermost.
Qur’an 48:29—Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and those who are
with him are severe against disbelievers, and merciful among
themselves.
"The blood of a Muslim who confesses that none has the right to be
worshipped but Allah and that I am His Apostle, cannot be shed except
in three cases: In Qisas for murder, a married person who commits
illegal sexual intercourse and the one who reverts from Islam (apostate)
and leaves the Muslims." (Bukhari, Book 83 Number 17)
Sahih Muslim 30—Muhammad said: “I have been commanded to fight
against people so long as they do not declare that there is no god but
Allah.”
Sahih Muslim 4366—Muhammad said: “I will expel the Jews and
Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but
Muslims.”
Sunan An-Nasa’i 3099—The Prophet said: “Whoever dies without having
fought or having thought of fighting, he dies on one of the branches of
hypocrisy.”
Sunan Ibn Majah 2763—The Messenger of Allah said: “Whoever meets
Allah with no mark on him (as a result of fighting) in His cause, he will
meet Him with a deficiency.”
Sahih al-Bukhari 6922—Allah’s Messenger said, “If anyone changed his
Islamic religion, then kill him.”
Qur'an (4:74)-"Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of
this world for the other. Whoso FIGHTETH IN THE WAY OF Allah, BE HE
SLAIN or be he victorious, on him WE SHALL BESTOW A VAST REWARD"
Qur'an (9:111)-"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and
their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they
fight in His cause, AND SLAY AND ARE SLAIN: a promise binding on Him
in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the
Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then
rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement
supreme."
Qur'an (2:207)-"And there is the type of man who GIVES HIS LIFE to
earn the pleasure of Allah..."
Qur'an (61:10-12)"O ye who believe! Shall I lead you to a bargain that
will save you from a grievous Penalty? That ye believe in Allah and His
Messenger, and that ye strive (your utmost) in the Cause of Allah, with
your property and your persons: That will be best for you, if ye but
knew! He will forgive you your sins, and admit you to Gardens beneath
which Rivers flow, and to beautiful mansions in Gardens of Eternity:
that is indeed the Supreme Achievement."
This verse was given at the battle Uhud and uses the Arabic word, Jihad.
The dark-eyed virgins are mentioned in several places as well, including
verses 44:54 and 52:20.
For those who swing the other way, there are"perpetual
youth"verse6:17, otherwise known as"boys"verses52:24and76:19.
Qur'an (17:33)"And do not kill the soul which Allah has forbidden,
EXCEPT BY RIGHT"
Qur'an 3:151
Soon shall we cast TERROR into the hearts of the unbelievers, for that
they joined companion with Allah...
Bukhari (52:54)- The words of Muhammad:"I would love to be martyred
in Allah's Cause and then get resurrected and then get martyred, and
then get resurrected again and then get martyred and then get
resurrected again and then get martyred." This is why modern-day
Jihadists often say that they love death.
Qur'an (5:51)-"O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the
Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever
amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them;
surely Allah does not guide the unjust people."
Qur'an (5:80)-"You will see many of them befriending those who
disbelieve; certainly evil is that which their souls have sent before for
them, that Allah became displeased with them and in chastisement shall
they abide." Those Muslims who befriend unbelievers will abide in hell.
Qur'an (3:28)-"Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers
Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there
be help from Allah:except by way of precaution, that ye may Guard
yourselves from them..." This last part means that the Muslim is allowed
to feign friendship if it is of benefit. Renowned scholar Ibn Kathir
states that"believers are allowed to show friendship outwardly, but
never inwardly."
Qur'an (3:118)-"O you who believe! do not take for intimate friends
from among others than your own people, they do not fall short of
inflicting loss upon you; they love what distresses you; vehement hatred
has already appeared from out of their mouths, and what their bosoms
conceal is greater still; indeed, We have made the communications clear
to you, if you will understand." This verse not only warns Muslims not to
take non-Muslims as friends.
Qur'an (9:23)-"O ye who believe! Choose not your fathers nor your
brethren for friends if they take pleasure in disbelief rather than
faith. Whoso of you taketh them for friends, such are wrong-doers"
Even family members are not to be taken as friends if they do not
accept Islam. (This is the mildest interpretation of this verse from the
9th Sura, which also advocates"slaying the unbeliever wherever ye find
them" .
Qur'an (53:29)-"Therefore shun those who turn away from Our Message
and desire nothing but the life of this world."
Qur'an (3:85)-"And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it shall
not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the
losers."
Qur'an (3:10)-"(As for) those who disbelieve, surely neither their
wealth nor their children shall avail them in the least against Allah, and
these it is who are the fuel of the fire." Those who do not believe in
Muhammad are but fuel for the fire of Hell (also 66:6, 2:24. 21:98).
Qur'an (7:44)-"The Companions of the Garden will call out to the
Companions of the Fire:"We have indeed found the promises of our Lord
to us true: Have you also found Your Lord's promises true?"They shall
say,"Yes"; but a crier shall proclaim between them:"The curse of Allah is
on the wrong-doers" Muslims in heaven will amuse themselves by looking
down on non-Muslims in Hell and mocking them while they are being
tortured (see22:19-22.
Qur'an (1:5-7)-"Show us the straight path, The path of those whom
Thou hast favoured; Not the (path) of those who earn Thine anger nor
of those who go astray" This is a prayer that Muslims are supposed to
repeat each day. "Those who earn Thine anger"specifically refers to
Jews and"those who go astray"refers to Christians (seeBukhari
(12:749).
Remember the ultimate aim of Mohammed and devout Muslims is for
Islam to dominate the world. They aim to murder all the pagans and
atheists hence condemning their souls to hell, of courses they spare the
Christians because a murdered christain in defense of his/her faith
becomes heaven bound hence the devout Muslims are commanded to
humiliate Christians and have them pay the jizyah or convert or die.
Once a muslim renounces Islam they are commanded to behead the
apostate.
this is the religion of "peace".

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Re: Understand Islam As A Religion Of Peace. by Alisha4U(f): 4:40pm On Apr 24, 2022
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