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Pregnant Woman Blasts Anti-abortionists Outside Of London Clinic (video) by Nobody: 10:01pm On Dec 04, 2014 |
Much love for this woman for simply speaking her mind! The way she blasts them all to silence/looking into the far distance for a saviour #behonest https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMy-V1TIoHI |
Re: Pregnant Woman Blasts Anti-abortionists Outside Of London Clinic (video) by KanwuliaJara: 10:04pm On Dec 04, 2014 |
The same "pregnant" women o! |
Re: Pregnant Woman Blasts Anti-abortionists Outside Of London Clinic (video) by mutter(f): 10:12pm On Dec 04, 2014 |
Everyone has a right to speak their mind but that does not make it right. Abortion is a sin because it brings a life to end. Most women that commit abortions are also not abused or raped women. Besides the unborn child is innocent. However every woman should be free to make the choice if she wants to sin or not. It is between her and her God and only God knows what his yardstick for judgement is. 4 Likes |
Re: Pregnant Woman Blasts Anti-abortionists Outside Of London Clinic (video) by Nobody: 10:36pm On Dec 04, 2014 |
mutter:That's your opinion, all are entitled. Peace Despite the fact I believe in God, to instruct a woman to "have your baby because it is what God wanted" is actually reckless. In the real world, it isn't a good enough answer and provides no real practical solution. Strictly, I am pro prevention. Once the battleground becomes an argument over actual lives and consequences; I leave it to the woman, I leave it to God. 3 Likes |
Re: Pregnant Woman Blasts Anti-abortionists Outside Of London Clinic (video) by mutter(f): 10:39pm On Dec 04, 2014 |
Flytefalls: I don`t think i said anything different Please read my post. Every woman should be free... |
Re: Pregnant Woman Blasts Anti-abortionists Outside Of London Clinic (video) by Nobody: 10:41pm On Dec 04, 2014 |
mutter:Not attacking you, just adding my own opinion. One sec |
Re: Pregnant Woman Blasts Anti-abortionists Outside Of London Clinic (video) by mutter(f): 10:42pm On Dec 04, 2014 |
Re: Pregnant Woman Blasts Anti-abortionists Outside Of London Clinic (video) by Nobody: 10:49pm On Dec 04, 2014 |
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Re: Pregnant Woman Blasts Anti-abortionists Outside Of London Clinic (video) by Nobody: 11:33pm On Dec 04, 2014 |
Nonso23:The Child/tissue line is arbitrary, that's the honest truth. But abortion is a right, so lines must exist in an attempt to cater to all. I believe, in London, abortion rights are being abused- anecdotally speaking, it's disgusting what some women can get away with. But in places where abortion is not a right, there is still abortion. It will not disappear by force, for as long as women can conceive. The subject of abortion is one where ambivalence is the most common opinion. How do you draw a line between women who deserve it and women who do not? If a 'deserving' criteria is enforced by law, isn't that just as subjective as child/tissue? Who are we to pile through rape cases where some were proven, and others were not- we all know rape is hard to prove and many cases do not make it to trial? Le.gal abortion was once a best intention that has now unfortunately been used as an extention of contraception. Personally, I can only lobby for more access to prevention and an increase in overall sexual health awareness, with the hope that for most women, abortion never has to be a contemplation Edit: Truthfully, through my job I am able to have conversations with women who are contemplating abortion (although not exclusively). There simply are no straight answers. Winners and losers are always going to be born out of every decision, so we can only keep debating and discussing until we identify the best solutions for all. Anyway, off to bed for more of the same 'fun' tomorrow when I come across more of these women... 3 Likes |
Re: Pregnant Woman Blasts Anti-abortionists Outside Of London Clinic (video) by Onegai(f): 7:22am On Dec 05, 2014 |
What a woman chooses to do with her life is her business and God's business. That is it. A lot of people think abortions are easy, they're not, they are very emotionally damaging, especially to the woman. Don't let that brave face foo.l you. So please keep your opinions to yourself at that time, mind your own business. And as for sin or no sin, I think if I ever meet a young woman who is being harassed for having an abortion, I will locate her attackers, dig into their personal lives and air their dirty laundry. People should stop complacently judging. We are so quick to identify others' sins and forget ours. Judge Not Lest Ye Be Judged. 12 Likes |
Re: Pregnant Woman Blasts Anti-abortionists Outside Of London Clinic (video) by SAMBARRY: 7:47am On Dec 05, 2014 |
Gbaammmm.you have said it all Onegai: |
Re: Pregnant Woman Blasts Anti-abortionists Outside Of London Clinic (video) by Nobody: 8:18am On Dec 05, 2014 |
Re: Pregnant Woman Blasts Anti-abortionists Outside Of London Clinic (video) by Nobody: 8:53am On Dec 05, 2014 |
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Re: Pregnant Woman Blasts Anti-abortionists Outside Of London Clinic (video) by Nobody: 10:27am On Dec 05, 2014 |
Nonso23:A pregnant woman may agree with you. But what if the father of her baby doesn't? Should we encourage a society where males are made to be fathers despite their objections? Is abortion only a woman's right? You shouldn't jump onto one side of the fence for the sake of it, the issues are too complex. |
Re: Pregnant Woman Blasts Anti-abortionists Outside Of London Clinic (video) by Nobody: 10:32am On Dec 05, 2014 |
There are always losers
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Re: Pregnant Woman Blasts Anti-abortionists Outside Of London Clinic (video) by Nobody: 10:40am On Dec 05, 2014 |
Always ... Today's Metro is depressing
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Re: Pregnant Woman Blasts Anti-abortionists Outside Of London Clinic (video) by Nobody: 8:50pm On Dec 05, 2014 |
Re: Pregnant Woman Blasts Anti-abortionists Outside Of London Clinic (video) by Nobody: 8:59pm On Dec 05, 2014 |
Re: Pregnant Woman Blasts Anti-abortionists Outside Of London Clinic (video) by coogar: 9:16pm On Dec 05, 2014 |
Nonso23: a foetus should have no right cos it hasn't qualified yet for personhood - this is why abortion isn't murder. the woman in the video is 100% correct. what a woman decides to do with her foetus is entirely her prerogative. anti-abortionists are all hypocrites. they would rather have the child & throw it away than eliminate the fetus. |
Re: Pregnant Woman Blasts Anti-abortionists Outside Of London Clinic (video) by Nobody: 9:20pm On Dec 05, 2014 |
Re: Pregnant Woman Blasts Anti-abortionists Outside Of London Clinic (video) by Stillfire: 11:03pm On Dec 05, 2014 |
coogar: Animals who are not persons have rights to live as much as you do. Abortion is murder, but we do make excuses for murder via self defense,or in the case of war. For abortion, in the case of rape, threat to mother's life or whatever reasons there are. It's still murder. I think it's too dismissive to say it is left for the woman to decide. Human beings would bastardize any freedom. So abortion should be regulated. |
Re: Pregnant Woman Blasts Anti-abortionists Outside Of London Clinic (video) by coogar: 11:22pm On Dec 05, 2014 |
Stillfire: so what about the beef, bacon, fish, etc you consume on a daily basis? why aren't the butchers & fishermen arrested for all em killings?
abortion isn't murder. to commit murder, you must take the life of a person. the fetus isn't a person - personhood starts immediately after birth, personhood doesn't start at conception.
so you want to control what is inside another woman? how's it your business? a woman got pregnant & felt she might not be able to deal with the consequences or take care of the baby & she opts for abortion.......and you think it's murder? |
Re: Pregnant Woman Blasts Anti-abortionists Outside Of London Clinic (video) by jmoore(m): 11:27pm On Dec 05, 2014 |
Baby haram is the sister of Boko haram.
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Re: Pregnant Woman Blasts Anti-abortionists Outside Of London Clinic (video) by Nobody: 11:13am On Dec 06, 2014 |
jmoore:All that s#!t you've just posted does nothing but fill an already sad situation with more guilt and shame. Pathetic. This world is fkd up, down, diagonally. |
Re: Pregnant Woman Blasts Anti-abortionists Outside Of London Clinic (video) by Nobody: 11:30am On Dec 06, 2014 |
Nonso23:Again, nothing is simple. Lumping them into one bubble is objective, impersonal, practical. Trying to treat all cases differently is subjective, resource consuming, emotional. You know, funny thing is just yesterday a client of mine was a Nigerian woman struggling to see point in her life after being encouraged by a catholic organisation to keep her baby. She struggles to the point of near insanity, she's got no support system in this country, no job prospects, adverse physical health, etc etc. Where are the people who spoke to her initially? Yes, they helped her through the first year, but then they pass her onto social workers. Her social worker is actually unable to handle her phone calls at 2am when her son won't sleep and the neighbors of her tiny tiny flat are banging on the wall for her do something. Should this woman be suffering this way? She is trying to give her son the love he needs, by where are all the people who made her keep her child?! So we, who have nothing really to do with the real life situation, should have no real say, although we will always have our unspoken opinions. |
Re: Pregnant Woman Blasts Anti-abortionists Outside Of London Clinic (video) by Nobody: 11:41am On Dec 06, 2014 |
Re: Pregnant Woman Blasts Anti-abortionists Outside Of London Clinic (video) by EfemenaXY: 12:14pm On Dec 06, 2014 |
I can't explain it...but having watched that video, I'm convinced the black man with the camera is either Crackhaus or SirShymex It's just got to be one of them... #picks up her bathroom slippers and flees this thread# 1 Like |
Re: Pregnant Woman Blasts Anti-abortionists Outside Of London Clinic (video) by crackhaus: 12:50pm On Dec 06, 2014 |
EfemenaXY: |
Re: Pregnant Woman Blasts Anti-abortionists Outside Of London Clinic (video) by Stillfire: 7:20pm On Dec 06, 2014 |
coogar: Personhood is not enough argument to dismiss the concerns of anti-abortionist. abortion isn't murder. Humans have evolved to a point where ordinary dogs who are not persons have rights today. A feotus can as well attain such rights to live on account of not being a person as you allude to. Personhood is not a strong argument to the abortion controversy. Let's look at the issue of murder on why is it wrong? Murder is wrong because the killer has taken the rights of the victim to life. Abortion is akin to murder because you have taken the rights of the foetus to live. so you want to control what is inside another woman? how's it your business? a woman got pregnant & felt she might not be able to deal with the consequences or take care of the baby & she opts for abortion.......and you think it's murder? Let me make it clear, I'm not totally anti-abortion being that there are credible reasons where abortion can be applied. Your personhood argument is not just solid enough. Too simple. Furthermore, if we want to talk about control, we are all being controlled one way or the other. I would like to go back to my roots, going about my daily business bare-chested but the police would throw me in jail for being a public nuisance. Ethical issues like this where there are a lot of gray areas to ponder on should be regulated to avoid bastardization of the system. The current stance in the West where there's a time limit on when you can or cannot have an abortion I believe is fair. 1 Like |
Re: Pregnant Woman Blasts Anti-abortionists Outside Of London Clinic (video) by coogar: 8:19pm On Dec 06, 2014 |
Stillfire: it is! otherwise, everytime you fight bacteria, you are committing a crime. in the first few weeks of conception, it's just a blob of blood vessels.
the victim of murder can talk, feel, perceive, communicate, etc. the foetus cannot do any of that. how is it the same as murder?
you cannot pick & choose when abortion is suitable. we either agree it is or not. murder is a crime anywhere in the world - people don't get to choose when it's right or wrong so make a stand. |
Re: Pregnant Woman Blasts Anti-abortionists Outside Of London Clinic (video) by Stillfire: 9:35pm On Dec 06, 2014 |
coogar: At 'the blob of blood vessels' level, it is a zygote developing into an embryo, not a foetus. And this is where I say it is fair to get rid of it. At the fetus stage from the 8th week it is no more a 'blob of blood vessels'. It is capable of 'feeling', 'perceiving', as you put it. If it is incapable of doing this it will not grow. On the issue of talking, if talking was a criteria to life only animals like parrots should be given rights. Talking involves a spoken language and for something to be called a language it has to have grammar and syntax. For this reason, dogs who are not persons cannot talk but are given rights today A foetus can also claim its rights. Again personhood is not a cogent criteria to solve the abortion controversy. When you kill bacteria, it is self defense and this is justifiable. you cannot pick & choose when abortion is suitable. we either agree it is or not. murder is a crime anywhere in the world - people don't get to choose when it's right or wrong so make a stand. Abortion is wrong, murder is wrong but we make allowances for murder in the case of self defense or war. These are all justifiable cases, but it doesn't change the fact that it is wrong to kill as well as it is wrong to commit abortion. |
Re: Pregnant Woman Blasts Anti-abortionists Outside Of London Clinic (video) by jmoore(m): 10:43pm On Dec 06, 2014 |
Baby haram is the sister of Boko haram. Their mission? To kill the innocent. Videos and Pictures of Babyharamites actions 1-http://clinicquotes.com/abortion-video-the-reality-of-choice/ 2- http://www.abort73.com/videos/this_is_abortion/ 3- http://www.silentscream.org/ [described by a former abortionist doctor] Abortionist and terrorists are one. |
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