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Re: The Igbos: Are We Guided By Memory, Or Blinded By Bitterness? by Yeske2(m): 1:45am On Dec 22, 2014 |
Normality:Stories, tell me it's 100% and I'd believe that and not 80%, we need pix. Meanwhile, GEJ is not Igbo so who are my people I'm bad mouthing biko nu. I don't believe in GEJ then I'm maybe Yoruba, Fulani, a sellout, do i care. I will tell your pay master that you satanoids ain't doing enough, you all are supposed to be sacked. Nekwa Onye ne kwu okwu |
Re: The Igbos: Are We Guided By Memory, Or Blinded By Bitterness? by rman: 2:00am On Dec 22, 2014 |
The author of the article is RIGHT! The comments on this thread alone supports his claim 100%. 5 Likes |
Re: The Igbos: Are We Guided By Memory, Or Blinded By Bitterness? by jaysniggs: 2:04am On Dec 22, 2014 |
mazzi: Should that really bother you? Shouldn't you hold the nations development at hand? I'm sorry but thinking like this won't help us. We are way too damaged for us to start choosing leaders based on etchnicity. Worldwide we're known to be corrupt and people are dying by the scores. Have you been to the British High Commision in Ikeja? You need to go there and see the number of Nigerians that apply for the UK visas, tens of thousands apply daily. And when we get there their gov choke us whether guilty/innocent into jails. And yet still the same government that isn't allowing us progress internally due to looting still have no plans for this nation's seeds in the international level. Its a shame you can find Nigerians in almost every jail in europe just because they are looking for a way to feed and take care of a family which the nation is duping of basic human needs. Yet some people still want the same administration to rule for another 4 years, after throwing Nigeria into a chaotic pool of problems. I really wonder if you have any conscience or your selfish gain is more than the lives of millions of innocent Nigerians. I really hope you will change your perspective. Think deep Vote wisely God bless you. 2 Likes |
Re: The Igbos: Are We Guided By Memory, Or Blinded By Bitterness? by Nobody: 3:26am On Dec 22, 2014 |
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Re: The Igbos: Are We Guided By Memory, Or Blinded By Bitterness? by Babacele: 3:47am On Dec 22, 2014 |
PhenomenonVFX:Hmmmmm! |
Re: The Igbos: Are We Guided By Memory, Or Blinded By Bitterness? by Babacele: 4:14am On Dec 22, 2014 |
It is good to support any candidate of our choice while at the same time keeping sane boundaries within the Nigerian reality. The enemies of the Igbo, pretending to be more Igbo than you and I, gave the name Azikiwe and Ebele to GEJ to make him look one of 'us'. The costly political folly we have forced other Nigerians to accept is that GEJ is an Igbo. And if he rules till 2019, does it not means ibos have had their turn? Have we really? It will be damn too difficult ,if not impossible,to convince Nigerians whom we have forced to accept GEJ's igboness despite his obvious south south origins! |
Re: The Igbos: Are We Guided By Memory, Or Blinded By Bitterness? by tonychristopher: 4:24am On Dec 22, 2014 |
If you don't rope Igbo in your madness then you won't be happy Igbo this Igbo that Why are they special 1 Like |
Re: The Igbos: Are We Guided By Memory, Or Blinded By Bitterness? by chamboy(m): 4:47am On Dec 22, 2014 |
mazzi:deluded fools u n Ur likes |
Re: The Igbos: Are We Guided By Memory, Or Blinded By Bitterness? by Nobody: 5:38am On Dec 22, 2014 |
phantom:whats this one saying since, you talk like a kid of yesterday. Only a fool will want to fall twice at the same spot. Igbos have every justification for their actions, please stop acting like an OSU. 1 Like |
Re: The Igbos: Are We Guided By Memory, Or Blinded By Bitterness? by phantom(m): 6:55am On Dec 22, 2014 |
Calculia:the one that serves as a seaport when it rains? say something else please. |
Re: The Igbos: Are We Guided By Memory, Or Blinded By Bitterness? by MayorofLagos(m): 6:57am On Dec 22, 2014 |
phantom: this guy want kill me with laughter... |
Re: The Igbos: Are We Guided By Memory, Or Blinded By Bitterness? by MayorofLagos(m): 7:13am On Dec 22, 2014 |
Babacele: Even Jonathan got drunk on ogogoro one night and in front of national media declared that only the Igbos have been the pillars of his administration. Add his lack of tact and discretion on that statement to the repeated call by Ohaneze for all Igbos anywhere in Nigeria to vote Jonathan. I hope not, but if it ends in a baboon and dog fight in 2015 Igbo will end up a scapegoat in the battle. There probably is....but Ive never met an Ijawman that built mansion and invested his life in Hausaland the way Ibos are everywhere in North and with their boast of mansions and economic control. Ndigbo has two choices 1. Vote Jonathan and damn the consequencies 2 Self preservation and let Jonathan return home a one-term President. |
Re: The Igbos: Are We Guided By Memory, Or Blinded By Bitterness? by Nobody: 8:43am On Dec 22, 2014 |
MayorofLagos:guy if it's threats like dz u want to use to mk we igbo's vote for anybody... then do ur worse... we wud vote for our choice... u re just talking as if Yorubas stay only in d southwest... do ur worse. |
Re: The Igbos: Are We Guided By Memory, Or Blinded By Bitterness? by tomakint: 1:12pm On Dec 22, 2014 |
berem:Hmmmnnn......this one again.... 1 Like
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Re: The Igbos: Are We Guided By Memory, Or Blinded By Bitterness? by HappyJoe: 1:31pm On Dec 22, 2014 |
MayorofLagos: What nonsense is this? What will happen if Ndigbo don't vote for APC? They will impose "economic blockade" on us, like they did during the Civil War? Will they starve us like Awolowo did? I don't have time for this nonsense - or threats. How come nobody is threatening Ijaws? They know Ijaws can cripple this economy, so they tread carefully, but these stupid Lagos people spend all their time threatening Igbos. My advise to all these people threatening Igbos: Do you worst, e no go pass Civil War - and we survived the Civil War and are thriving today. 1 Like |
Re: The Igbos: Are We Guided By Memory, Or Blinded By Bitterness? by EMANY01(m): 2:10pm On Dec 22, 2014 |
phantom: If I am not mistaken,the Ibo's voted for shagari in the late seventies,less than a decade after the civil war I don't think they were stuck in 1966 @ the time.They also voted MKO in the June 12 elections as well as Obassonjo a prominent figure on the opposite side of the civil war in 1999 not to mention Yar'adua brother of Yar'adua the senior who played a prominent role against biafra during the civil war.The do all that and then to balance things they vote an ijaw man or ogbia man or whichever section of the south-south the op would have us believe that he comes from and the OP is quick to remind the Ibos' that they sabotaged them during the civil war (how is that for being stuck un 1966?). The Ibo man's basic interests on the streets wherever he is in this country is to be allowed to take advantage of the opportunities if any that being a Nigerian provides him without molestation be it Kano,Port-Harcourt, Jalingo,Sokoto,Jos ,Nembe,Lagos,Okiti-Pupa wherever.But we all know that there is only one region that has consistently denied the Ibos and other southerners even a pretension of those rights.So why would the Ibos reward them with their votes? The Ibo elites major interest in Nigeria is to be allowed to have a say in the leadership(read government) of their country in as much as the policies formulated by that government affects them and truth be told, for the first time in a long time in the history of this country beyond the lip service of previous governments,military and civilian, this happens to be the case.Posters before me have given numerous examples here on this thread so I need not bother to repeat their assertions. As for the OP for every example you give ,I have two that indicate just the opposite: I, Russia lost about eight to fifteen million people (8,000,000 - 15,000,000) depending on whose tally you read to the Germans in world war two. Not forgetting the losses they (russia ) suffered to Napoleons invasion and the Crimean war .That history and the desire to never experience such again led it to seek to dominate its hemisphere and beyond (read Europe) leading to the biggest arms race in history. The Russians never fail to remind Europe of that fact and that history plays into their decision cycle in all of their interactions with Europe in spite of the cooperative relationship that they have with Europe. II, China lost far more than the numbers quoted by the Russians at the hands of the Japanese during and following the Japanese invasion of China during the second world war. That history more than anything else , is responsible for the difficult relationship between Japan and China with the current tensions between both countries raising fears of the possibility of war breaking out in the south china sea. The two countries have strong economic cooperation but that history between them affects the Chinese decision making cycle Iii,The Israelis ,whom the OP used in his example, spent the first three decades of their corporate existence as a nation pursuing one major goal even though it had nothing to do with the survival of and progress : HAUNTING TO THE ENDS OF THE EARTH EVERY LAST INDIVIDUAL WHO PLAYED A PART IN THE GENOCIDE PROGRAM OF GERMANY IN WORLD WAR TWO AND BRINGING THEM BACK TO ISRAEL BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY FOR TRIAL AND PUNISHMENT; a task they carried out with amazing single mindedness .Even today if one more holocaust perpetrator not yet dead were to be located anywhere on earth the Israelis will go after that person aggressively so if you say that Israel and Germany have extremely good relations, it is because the Israelis’ have received justice so to speak for the horrible past between them and the Germans have gone above and beyond to appease the Israelis and to atone for the actions of the past. I could go on listing examples but I believe that my point is made :The North specifically the core north have not deemed it fit to in anyway apologize for the events of 1966-1970 but rather has done everything possible to perpetuate the pain of that period and to rub salt on the wounds both physically( sectarian riots) and mentally( political exclusion) on the southeasterners and generally southerners sans the southwest for much of Nigeria’s Post Civil war history as a result, You can not and should not begrudge the southeasterners the siege mentality they currently exhibit in their political dealings with the North. Adminisher: I feel a deep urge to insult you , I feel like calling you a ********* but I will let the better man in me prevail. I am from delta state but I consider myself practically ibo having spent a part of my life relating with them although not within the south east .You saying that Ibos are acting in response to “imagined hurts” is the most dishonest statement I dare say you have ever uttered in nairaland and I don’t care to go through you post history. I was not around during the period of the civil war or the immediate years that followed so everything I know about the civil war is what I learnt from documented history and opinions as well as what I was told by my Elders (parents uncles renown historians and the like) so I won’t dwell on the issues of the civil war. I was born and raised in kano and for the first eighteen to twenty years of my life its been a continuously evolving series of near death experiences for me my family and millions upon millions of others in the North (read core north). Beginning from the Mai-Tasine crisis in kano, (which I barely survived as a toddler on my mother’s back at mai ‘yanka market ) which killed some eight hundred people , the Reinhardt Bonke riots in kano which killed about one thousand five hundred people( this happened to coincide with my first common entrance examination, went to the school to write the test and returned some four hours later seeing decapitated , disemboweled ,impaled and burnt dead bodies on the way home how I made it home is another story), the pork riots in Bauchi, riots in maidugry , kaduna , katsina, [size=20pt]not forgetting the average three or so riots a year which happened all over the north during “STRONGMAN” OBJ’s tenure 1999-2007, [/i]the first of which occurred in OCTOBER 1999.[/size]. The most recent “incident” before the mutation of the players in these acts to what we now know as “BOKO HARAM” You have to note that from the beginning of Nigeria there has been a devious predilection by the government, mostly controlled by the core north, to seriously understate casualty figures of those killed and those affected in these sectarian crises. The rule of the thumb is to add a zero( or two in the event of a very serious and widespread crisis case in point ;the pogroms of 1966 and the Reinhardt Bonke riots in 1991) to the stated numbers of the dead and injured to come to a more correct reckoning of the numbers of casualties. [size=20pt][i] The common thread through all of these sectarian crises ,was /is, GENERAL TARGETS : anyone non-muslim and non core-north, MAJOR TARGETS: anyone identified as ibo or who is unfortunate enough to look ibo.[/size] . You may want to deny, the fact of my assertions but your denials ,no matter how much logic and eloquence you pour into it : does not resurrect the dead, does not remove the memory of those lost ,does not comfort the families of those whose loved once simply disappeared after the riots never to be heard from or heard of again, it does not regrow the limbs of those who barely escaped with their lives but lost limb In the process neither does it remove the physical (not to speak of the mental) scars of those who sustained injuries but managed to live. Your denials does not renovate the houses/homes of those who were made homeless because their homes were burnt down/destroyed and it certainly does not refund or insure those who lost their life’s work/ businesses to marauders and had to start all over again, your denials will not help those who survived all of these, but lost their lives to heart attack and anxiety as a result of any number of the situations listed above and it will not remove from the memories of southeasterners and southerners’ in general who may never have spent a day in the north but were witnesses to the tales of woe told by the survivors who scrambled down home , most with only the cloths on their back and partakers in the burials of the bodies that were found and returned home as well as burials for those who were known to be dead but their bodies were never retrieved. Chew on that before you spew more feasis on this thread. berem: I hope you know that for all your pseudo intellectual stand in the opposite side of you people(that is if indeed you are Ibo) you dare not go to the core north and assume you are immune to the treatment that awaits you at the hands if marauders whenever any of their many and repetitive sectarian violence occurs.Mnbe ogar por ginwa ge so zoba isigi. 3 Likes |
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