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|Want To Start A Cassava Farm While In Schl.....need Professional Advice by Nobody: 1:29pm On Dec 26, 2014|
Good day everyone, my name is Chikezie Russell, a 200lvl student studying maritime management technology at the federal university of technology, owerri. I have seen the recent trend in the Nigerian economy in relation to the fall in the price of oil. With the way things are going in this country, there is every tedency for the Nigerian govt to shift frm oil to agriculture. Many graduates will want to becme involved in agriculture because in abt 5 to 10 yrs frm nw, agriculture will start paying like the oil industry(if nt more than). Only an unwise person( forgive me) will forsee such things and neglect it. To me, any poor man choses to be poor, except maybe circumstances. I cant say that i am frm a well to do hme, bt i intend to change dat. It is funny nowadays wen u see pple looking fr jobs wen most of their parents lands are lying in waste in the village. I would nt like fr smeone to pay my salary, instead i want to employ and pay pple via agriculture. I want to have the biggest farm in Africa. I want to export agricultural produce to other nations. Although these are big dreams, bt big dreams start small wit determination. My mum has abt 5 acres of land where she grows cassava and pineapple bt has nt been able to move frward(which i will attribute to her limitation in education). I will like to start a cassava farm. Whatever profit i make will be reinvested to expand the business. I intend going into exportation of my farm produce(thank God fr the course i am studying) in due time. The only challenge that i am having in my plan is time optimization. How am i going to balance my studies and the farm business 2geda. How am i going to start in this small way nd get to the stage of exporting nd hw to go about it and also financing. The issue of land is solved as well as the cassava stem needed for planting which my mum already has. This why i am here to seek the support of professionals, experts, great thinkers and others alike. Thank you so much for your support. God bless you, God bless agriculture and God bless NIGERIA, Amen.
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|Re: Want To Start A Cassava Farm While In Schl.....need Professional Advice by Lesgupnigeria(m): 2:58pm On Dec 26, 2014|
Will be right back to comment.
|Re: Want To Start A Cassava Farm While In Schl.....need Professional Advice by Lesgupnigeria(m): 2:58pm On Dec 26, 2014|
Will be right back to comment.
|Re: Want To Start A Cassava Farm While In Schl.....need Professional Advice by Nobody: 3:49pm On Dec 26, 2014|
nice one. Make sure u use the most improved stems.
Cassava wont take much time from your studies.
|Re: Want To Start A Cassava Farm While In Schl.....need Professional Advice by Excelboi(m): 5:00pm On Dec 26, 2014|
Op, I'm also thinking in the same line with you. Even though I'm studying a professional course, I have a big zeal to go into agriculture fully but running it while I'm away in school will not be easy and I don't want failure. Professional farmers input will be appreciated. Goodluck op.
@Legsupnigeria, I sent you a mail but no response yet. Pls I await your reply. Thanks.
|Re: Want To Start A Cassava Farm While In Schl.....need Professional Advice by jethro2: 5:25pm On Dec 26, 2014|
I will advise you do cassava on the following conditions
1. If you will be the processor. That is you are adding value to it in whatever form. Be it starch, gari etc
2. If the processing firm is directly beside your farm. I meant some few kilometer distance.
1. Cassava prices are dictated by the processors. They are all privately owned and fix unreasonable price to extort farmers. The farmers are always at their mercy. So you are forced to sell.
2. Transportation cost takes the whole bulk of what could have been your gain. Cassava is a perishable goods that have a short life span
Lastly,cassava is not as profitable as people tend to claim. Most are after the consultation fee and hide behind the fact that until after a year or more before you get to discover you have been scammed.
Please dont quote me if you dont have figures, names, clients, companies results that can testify and will be verified on the forum to prove me wrong.
At Op, Agriculture is a very good venture and a highly profitable one. But please cassava is not. Until we have a regulated price by government to stabilise the fluctuations in price, its a no no area.
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|Re: Want To Start A Cassava Farm While In Schl.....need Professional Advice by Lesgupnigeria(m): 6:48pm On Dec 26, 2014|
Excelboi:Sorry for the late response, i have not check my mail for couple of days now.i will check today and definitely get back to you.
i have sent you a reply.
|Re: Want To Start A Cassava Farm While In Schl.....need Professional Advice by Lesgupnigeria(m): 7:32pm On Dec 26, 2014|
Russell145:Cassava will be great for you.
Crops like cucumber,tomato and pepper may not be applicable for you as it requires every day visit and longer stay on the farm.
It will not clash with your studies if you plan your time well.
You also need knowledge to get started on a profitable note but i believe that you will still get more experience as you begin.
I am amazed about your positive attitude towards agriculture and i will be willing to help you achieve your dreams.
Send an email to firstname.lastname@example.org for a free material to prepare you before you get started.
|Re: Want To Start A Cassava Farm While In Schl.....need Professional Advice by Lesgupnigeria(m): 8:27pm On Dec 26, 2014|
jethro2:How do you mean that cassava is not profitable as people claim to be?
From your statement,It means you have been making huge loss from your cassava farms and have been part of the people misleading your co-operative to part with their hard-earned money by cultivating cassava?
You might have to upgrade your knowledge in the area of cassava plantation
Does that mean because you have been making loss,all other cassava farmers in Nigeria made loss?
Are all other crops not also subjected to price flunctuation?
As all other crops are subjected to price flunctuation, Did government stabilise the price of the crops before they are profitable?
And why should government stabilise only the price of cassava to make it profitable while government do not stabilise the price of other crops and these crops are profitable (did you see the inconsistency in your statement showing you might need to upgrade your agribusiness knowledge).
It might be a no no area for you but you dont generalised your bad situation and feel other cassava farmers should/would be making loss.
Waiting patiently for convincing answers to the above questions.
|Re: Want To Start A Cassava Farm While In Schl.....need Professional Advice by jethro2: 8:40pm On Dec 26, 2014|
I hope you read my post where i said don't quote me if you don't have reasonable prove to counteract what i wrote.
please go through again and understand perfectly. What u meant by reasonable and genuine is evidence of transactions, investment,cash receipt, transport arrangement, tonnes yield per hectare, farm location, the processor, planting dates and harvesting date.
That even reminds me of that post of yours where you wrote you made N1,000,000 from 5 acres, also those signed contracts at N15,000 per tonnes, your waybill, how many tonnes the truck were conveying and the cost of transportation from one location to the other
I am not on line to prove anyone wrong or not but rather i am here to guide against misleading innocent people just coming into agric from losing their hard earned money.
Yes the truth is my cooperative cultivated 50acres which we are yet to sell because of the gluts in the market. But if I can remember well one of my conversation with you on line where you possibly promise to give some link to sell is still hanging
But if you think you are up to this, then lets keep the ball rolling.
To prove you have genuinely done a profitable cassava from planting to harvesting to convince the would be or intended farmers that he/she will not lose or almost lose their investment at the end of the planting season, you will need to attend to some of my concerns.
quote me when you are set.
Anxiously waiting for your response.
And until then, I still stand on the facts that cassava planting is not profitable until you are the one processing or your farm is beside those factories.
Over to you
|Re: Want To Start A Cassava Farm While In Schl.....need Professional Advice by Lesgupnigeria(m): 2:42am On Dec 27, 2014|
jethro2:First of all,why are you trying to dodge my questions?...you know that by answering those questions,you will expose your yansh.
I even learnt that the clients you manage cassava farmlands for complain bitterly and put pressure on you for failing to deliver after they saw the profit i made from my cassava farm and after the rooster and bull story that the cassava market is very bad.
You want me to be chasing after you to give you link of cassava buyers?...i will give it to you in your dreams.
Since then i have linked 2 cassava farming groups to the company. i hope some of them are reading this now to be able to testify to it and you sit there expecting me to come take you to them....you are a joker.
You are not only a joker,you are the joker of the century; i should post evidence of transactions, cash receipt, transport arrangement, tonnes yield per hectare, farm location, planting dates and harvesting date....Laughing in chinese.
I am not here to let you believe any of my posts,or anything i say or write here. (you have once told me that you are a doubting thomas), the best thing to do for doubting thomas is to let her remain a doubting thomas; reason why i decided not to respond to.your message on your new thread.
Let people that believe keep generating result and the doubting thomas keep doubting.
You are very funny o...Are you my secretary or the accountant,or my staff?
The only set of people that can see any documents relating to the transactions are my clients.
Over to you.
|Re: Want To Start A Cassava Farm While In Schl.....need Professional Advice by AreaFada2: 3:35am On Dec 27, 2014|
Let us put it this.
Maybe the guy is in an area with less demand for cassava or far from processors.
Or he just doesn't have the right links to dispose off large amounts off cassava.
For example, SW (especially Oyo/Ogun axis) might have more processing factories than some other areas.
As as a mark of solidarity among young farmers and agripreneurs, you may want to connect him, even if at a little commision.
Because more positive news from lots of agribiz people will encourage more.
We now have a generation of 20 to 50 years old who have seen that petroleum has been of little help to us, and we're going back to what our grandgathers did so well, only with bettter knowledge, education and technology behind us.
The only way is up.
|Re: Want To Start A Cassava Farm While In Schl.....need Professional Advice by jethro2: 7:33am On Dec 27, 2014|
Hmmmnnnnn. Its obvious you ve never done any cassava transaction before.
You have never sold any cassava to any company. I can categorically say this
Leaving the issues and perambulating all around shows you are just a scammer looking for whom to scam of their hard earned money in term of consultation and set up.
Just one evidence of transaction would have prove your genuity.
Even the clients you linked could not be mentioned.
The companies are ghost company
I have followed all your cassava thread with keen interest and discovered they were full of lies and fabricated figures.
You know the truth but choose to deceive people because of the money you want to rip off them.
If you can prove on this forum with concrete evidence of the profitability of cassava as you have been claiming, i will tender an unreserve apology to you in the agric section post on nairaland
But without that i stand on my word that all your cassava claims are fabricated lies. You have never sold any cassava to any company. You are a big time scammer
Prove me wrong with figures and facts
|Re: Want To Start A Cassava Farm While In Schl.....need Professional Advice by jethro2: 7:53am On Dec 27, 2014|
AreaFada2:Please don't always assume on peoples behalf. Most times assumptions are wrong. You might be suprise at what you think you know
Yes i asked for him to link the cassava group because i knew he was lying. He would have proved me wrong if he had come back with reasonable info.
One can fool most people at a time but not all of the people
Actions speak louder than voice.
All i want is for him to prove the success story behind what he has been quoting.
Like i boldly wrote. If he can I will tender apology all over the post in the agric section of nairaland. My friends and colleagues i will also beg to do the same on my behalf
He would have also earned himself a very good reputation of being genuine. Means more patronage for him.
Hes got nothing to lose from proving his sincerity
Rather i have got lots to lose by accusing someone wrongly on a social forum
He started all this. I wrote on my post that don't quote me if you don't have concrete evidence to back it up.
I believe he has the evidence to back it up.
please just watch as we move the ball
|Re: Want To Start A Cassava Farm While In Schl.....need Professional Advice by jethro2: 8:09am On Dec 27, 2014|
I actually meant to unravel your so called success in cassava planting. I want to unravel how you have been making millions in quotes yet you source for clients to fleece.
Since you have the guts to quote my post then you must be prepare to provide the evidence to back it up
Accusation, counter accusation or dodging will not solve this.
If you disprove my claims with evidence and back ups
1. I will tender an unreserve apology for accusing you wrongly
2. The apology will be on every post in agriculture section
3. I will also beg my friends online to join in tendering the apology
That will be at a very big advantage to you because
1. I would have lose my credibility for accusing you wrongly on a social forum
2. I trust nairaland that they will not spare me the scoldings
But if you dont
1. My fear would have been confirmed that you are a scammer
2. I still trust my nairaland members
3. I will personally post on every agric post that you are am agric scammer
You shouldn't have quote me. I warned in my post. You cant back down now
Let the game begins
|Re: Want To Start A Cassava Farm While In Schl.....need Professional Advice by jethro2: 10:01am On Dec 27, 2014|
Anxiously waiting for lesgupnigeria
|Re: Want To Start A Cassava Farm While In Schl.....need Professional Advice by AreaFada2: 10:02am On Dec 27, 2014|
Thanks for your sincere opinion.
However, I don't think we should be challenging each other, rather we should liaise and synchronise as much as possible.
As I do not have any evidence that the gentleman is just making things up, I think it's fair to give him a positive signal to assist where possible.
I assume (rightly or wrongly) that your business is based in the East, while the gentleman is based in the West.
I don't think I'm totally wrong to believe that market volume might differ in both places. Considering location of Ogun/Oyo being closer to Lagos & its population and available export possibilities.
|Re: Want To Start A Cassava Farm While In Schl.....need Professional Advice by jasper7(m): 10:03am On Dec 27, 2014|
I have been following this thread and have just been laffing. when 2 elephants go to war, na d grass dey hear am. well, I think a smoke screen will be cleared today. waiting to see the outcome of this matter
|Re: Want To Start A Cassava Farm While In Schl.....need Professional Advice by Lesgupnigeria(m): 10:15am On Dec 27, 2014|
I am not even asking for any dime from her...Let her answer my questions and let the whole world knows what she is up to.
She is under pressure from her nairaland clients who are all over her to pay back their money after failing to manage well and make profit on their cassava farms.
|Re: Want To Start A Cassava Farm While In Schl.....need Professional Advice by Lesgupnigeria(m): 10:17am On Dec 27, 2014|
This is another time you will be failing to respond to my previous questions.I have answer your questions and yet you fail to answer my questions.
You should be ashame of yourself and pay back the hard-earned money of your nairaland clients that are all over you for failing to make their cassava farm profitable.
I am not here to make you believe anything i say.
I have nothing to say to.you again on this thread and you can get prepared to defend yourself in a civil court of law soon.
|Re: Want To Start A Cassava Farm While In Schl.....need Professional Advice by Lesgupnigeria(m): 10:18am On Dec 27, 2014|
jethro2:I have nothing to say to.you again.
I.know this day will come and i know where its coming from.
You are just a pawn being used by your conspirators and you may get prepared to defend yourself in a civil court of law soon.
|Re: Want To Start A Cassava Farm While In Schl.....need Professional Advice by Lesgupnigeria(m): 10:19am On Dec 27, 2014|
My same response still remains:
I have nothing to say to.you again.
Straight up your crooked path
I.know this day will come and i know where its coming from.
You are just a pawn being used by your conspirators and you might get prepared to defend yourself in a civil court of law soon.
|Re: Want To Start A Cassava Farm While In Schl.....need Professional Advice by jethro2: 10:24am On Dec 27, 2014|
AreaFada2:I stay in the South West. Oyo state and Ogun State majorly. That's where the concentration of cassava factories are.
I fell victim of those lies and i will do anything possible to prevent others that will listen not to fall for the same stories.
its true, our cooperative group planted 20 hectares in Sepeteri, village in the Saki East LGA with the expectation of making returns after a year.
In the process we made arrangement with some of the companies in Ogun State. The truth is they are privately owned so they have all the aces and cards.
Some of the companies have visited the farm several times and they follow up.
Only to start offering ridiculous price when its harvesting time.
Then you can imagine some one coming to make bogus claims that he made N1,000,000 from 5 acres, claiming to lead someone to the company, saying cassava is profitable.
Yes cassava is profitable of you are the processor but not as a farmer.
I have been reading a lot of misleading thread on cassava which i kept quiet to. I made it a point not to comment because i am not out to spoil any ones business.
But my conscience has not been at peace for allowing others to fall victim while i know the truth.
I intentionally warned people not to quote me if they don't have concrete evidence to back it up. The reason is i want to be allowed to express my opinion in the best way possible without hurting anyone's business
Let the farmers decide and be able to say some one did warned but no:
He quoted me because he felt he is up to the task. He has been making the millions and we need to see how. He needs to bring in evidence and back ups.
Believe me I am willing and ready to see the end of this. That's why i gave the noted warnings.
Enough of the lies
|Re: Want To Start A Cassava Farm While In Schl.....need Professional Advice by jethro2: 10:26am On Dec 27, 2014|
jasper7:Sincerely its going to be an interesting one because i m up to the task
|Re: Want To Start A Cassava Farm While In Schl.....need Professional Advice by jethro2: 10:35am On Dec 27, 2014|
You are making a very big mistake. Silence or ignoring my post will not sort this out. Your integrity is at stake here. You have got to defend it if you really value or possibly have one to defend.
I am all out to prove you as a big lier, a scam, a 419 that as been misleading people as regards the profitability of cassava.
All you need to do is prove me wrong if you ever have anything to show for it
This thread alone is costing you alot if you don't know
|Re: Want To Start A Cassava Farm While In Schl.....need Professional Advice by jethro2: 10:49am On Dec 27, 2014|
Lesgupnigeria:I laugh at the court of law aspect. Anxiously waiting for your summon.
Mind you i am unwavering. You ve got some query to answer.
The game is just beginning
I am well prepared
|Re: Want To Start A Cassava Farm While In Schl.....need Professional Advice by stagger: 11:04am On Dec 27, 2014|
I recall that when I replied to Amarawa on a similar thread that gari was going for 6000 per 50kg bag, u clearly said I know nothing about the business, and that the said 50kg bag is 2,500 or 3,000.
Amarawa went to a market here in the FCT, and confirmed that what I said was the fact.
There is something you are not doing right, and I think you are in a wrong location. Instead of shooting down people's dreams and acting as a doubting Thomas (mind you, Thomas the doubter was eventually proven wrong), I think you should liaise with others having more success, rub minds, exchange ideas and move forward.
By the way, I agree with you that processing is the way to go. But it is also possible to meet with companies who need cassava as raw materials. They hardly get enough to meet their requirements so they will offer better pricing.
A company like Ekha Agro which produces glucose syrup for use by drinks companies has to fulfill its obligations to its clients such as NBC. They will therefore be quite desperate for raw cassava and will offer better pricing than a local processor who makes gari for sale to end users.
Get my drift?
|Re: Want To Start A Cassava Farm While In Schl.....need Professional Advice by stagger: 11:07am On Dec 27, 2014|
Hope you are following the thread to see the issues you will contend with in your venture. Business is not easy.
|Re: Want To Start A Cassava Farm While In Schl.....need Professional Advice by Nobody: 11:34am On Dec 27, 2014|
I am fllwing, bt u guys shld take it easy, this shldnt result to insults nd tins of the sort. To my post, where i intend doing the business is in Edo state. The cassava will be processed into garri and sold at the market till i am able to expand. My mum already has the machine which they use for processing the cassava. Another question is this, processing the cassava into garri nd selling it raw, which is more profitable.
|Re: Want To Start A Cassava Farm While In Schl.....need Professional Advice by stagger: 11:40am On Dec 27, 2014|
This is a no brainer. Processing to gari is far more profitable.
|Re: Want To Start A Cassava Farm While In Schl.....need Professional Advice by jethro2: 11:48am On Dec 27, 2014|
stagger:Thanks for your contribution.
I don't make bogus claim. I state truth and fact based on the figures i have at hand and in relation to where I am.
I vividly remember that conversation. Yes abuja gari price is different which i agreed. What i tend to prove is that planting cassava is not as profitable as lesgupnigeria has been claiming and quoting. He is misleading intending farmers.
The price of retail is quite different from bulk sales. That can not be use to judge a whole sale price. Moreover that is processing
I want to have the freedom of expressing my opinion without someone running me down.
From my post so far i want him to prove me wrong.. I will gladly write an apology post on every thread if he can prove to me in figures and facts that he made millions from cassava planting and selling as he claims.
I don't think i am asking for too much.
Thanks for your contribution
|Re: Want To Start A Cassava Farm While In Schl.....need Professional Advice by jethro2: 11:55am On Dec 27, 2014|
Russell145:Sincerely i apologise for derailing your thread. Its not intentional but needful. A lot of people daily fall into the same mess.
Yes. Processing is the best. Glad you don't have the intention of selling but processing
Before processing, ensure you also have your network of markets. There is nothing as bad as when you spent so much for the buyers to dictate the price of your goods. One need to do a real market survey.
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