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Jesus Is Lucifer Aka Morning Star by Obadiah77(m): 1:03pm On Jan 03, 2015
Revelation 22:16 "I am the root and offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. "

Isa 14:12 How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations!


angry yes.
Re: Jesus Is Lucifer Aka Morning Star by Beamborla(f): 1:10pm On Jan 03, 2015
Re: Jesus Is Lucifer Aka Morning Star by Obadiah77(m): 1:16pm On Jan 03, 2015
Beamborla:

yes you will not get it, because its not meant for the weak minds angry
Re: Jesus Is Lucifer Aka Morning Star by thorpido(m): 1:30pm On Jan 03, 2015
You're back with this madness?

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Re: Jesus Is Lucifer Aka Morning Star by Weah96: 1:33pm On Jan 03, 2015
I agree. They're the same person. Satan is only his bad side.
Re: Jesus Is Lucifer Aka Morning Star by Nobody: 1:34pm On Jan 03, 2015
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Re: Jesus Is Lucifer Aka Morning Star by PastorAIO: 1:45pm On Jan 03, 2015
The star in question is Venus. It spends some time as the Morning star that heralds the coming of a new dawn, and then after three days during which it disappears it re-emerges as the Evening star. It does this 8 times every 5 years.

It's movement has always borne a lot of significance in religion.

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Re: Jesus Is Lucifer Aka Morning Star by twosquare: 3:43pm On Jan 03, 2015
Ignorance at its peak
Re: Jesus Is Lucifer Aka Morning Star by Pdizzle(m): 4:14pm On Jan 03, 2015
Obadiah is back again
Re: Jesus Is Lucifer Aka Morning Star by lastmessenger: 4:36pm On Jan 03, 2015
Ignore this guy. It will pay off.

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Re: Jesus Is Lucifer Aka Morning Star by Nobody: 4:42pm On Jan 03, 2015
Satan was the first Lucifer. All others are pretenders to the throne.
Re: Jesus Is Lucifer Aka Morning Star by Nobody: 5:19pm On Jan 03, 2015
Obadiah77:
Revelation 22:16 "I am the root and offspring of David, and the bright and [b] morning star.
obadiah by saying so u also agree that Jesus was made an angel but the bible says let all the angels of God worship Jesus.... Well why are u always appearing and disappearing like prophet elijah or does the Spirit of the Lord takes u away?
Re: Jesus Is Lucifer Aka Morning Star by Beamborla(f): 6:04pm On Jan 03, 2015
Obadiah77:


yes you will not get it, because its not meant for the weak minds angry

'Weak minds' we all know a weak mind when we see one
Re: Jesus Is Lucifer Aka Morning Star by malvisguy212: 6:20pm On Jan 03, 2015
sonOfLucifer:
Satan was the first Lucifer. All others are pretenders to the throne.
God created satan, give him everything he could ever want, he was exalted above all angel , infact God use one of the finest material to create him;

Ezekiel 28:12–15
12 “Son of man, raise a lamentation
over the king of Tyre, and say to him,
Thus says the Lord God:
“You were the signet of perfection,1
full of wisdom and perfect in beauty.
13 You were in Eden, the garden of
God;
fevery precious stone was your covering,
sardius, topaz, and diamond,
beryl, onyx, and jasper,
sapphire, femerald, and carbuncle;
and crafted in gold were your settings
and your engravings.
On the day that you were created
they were prepared.
14 You were an anointed guardian
cherub.
I placed you; you were on the holy
mountain of God;
in the midst of the stones of fire you
walked.
15 You were blameless in your ways
from the day you were created,
till unrighteousness was found in you.

But there was a spirit, soo powerful and strong, even the angels don't know anything about this spirit, he was keept in a special place, satan himself don't know about Him, when satan discovered it, he feel threatened by this, why? Because he believe he was the heir to God's throne,so pride came upon him.notice the word ''I WILL'' in this verse;


Isaiah 14:12–15
12 “How you are fallen from heaven,
O Day Star, son of Dawn!
How you are cut down to the ground,
you who laid the nations low!
13 You said in your heart,
I will ascend to heaven;
above the stars of God
I will set my throne on high;
I will sit on the mount of assembly
in the far reaches of the north;
14 I will ascend above the heights of the
clouds;
I will make myself like the Most High.’
15 But you are brought down to Sheol,
to the far reaches of the pit.

Am sure you know the intention of satan when he say I WILL. It is only Jesus that will save you and the op.
Re: Jesus Is Lucifer Aka Morning Star by aredbros: 6:39pm On Jan 03, 2015
It is not a thing to talk about. So rest the case https://www.bombshell.info
Re: Jesus Is Lucifer Aka Morning Star by philfearon(m): 8:22pm On Jan 03, 2015
Obadiah77:
Revelation 22:16 "I am the root and offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. "

Isa 14:12 How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations!


angry yes.
Jesus and Lucifer are not the same person..
The real Jesus(Known as Yeshua Ben Yusuf) actually existed and lived on this earth..But,his legend was corrupted and used to create the fictitious Bible character known as Jesus..
Jesus Taught Seven Lessons namely
1)The first lesson he taught was that true love is mind and heart unity. True or cosmic love happens only when two or more people unite in mind and heart as one person. There is no other kind of real love. Any other kind is material or physical love, of which animals are also capable. He taught this by means of the statements, "I and the father are one" and "I will be there only when two or more of you are unitedin my name (i.e. in mind and heart unity)."Jesus, as well as the 6 other mahdis that have been born, are said to have had a "virgin" birth.Every person born on earth is born with two types of minds; a conscious and unconscious (or subconscious) mind. The unconscious mind is called ancestral memory by our people, and iscalled the "collective unconscious" by modern psychiatrists. This unconscious mind is not to be confused with suppressed memories. Suppressed memories, or what Freud mistakenly called the subconscious mind, is really part of the conscious mind. It was conscious at one point and became subconscious by being suppressed for various reasons, chief of which is self-preservation in the case where such memories cause trauma.This type of suppressed memory is not subconscious or unconscious in all people. There are people who have what is called total recall. They never forget anything they have everexperienced. In Ethiopia, such people are called griots, or reciters of tribal history.True unconscious memory is a gift from our ancestors. It is a record of the lives of our ancestors going back to the beginning of the universe. In the case of the light races, their gift of ancestral memory, or their collective unconscious, only goes back 6,000 years, to their beginning point.This unconscious mind or ancestral memory is always unconscious in each individual. On the other hand it is always conscious in the 24 Elders, who are the conscious mind of the Nation, or the custodians of eternal consciousness. But it is always unconscious in individuals. It was unconscious when it entered the individual's mind at conception, and remains unconscious until it is kindled by rituals of initiation.Now, it so happens that there are seven individuals who were born on earth with their ancestral memory being conscious from conception. These individuals, when they are born, are said to have had an immaculate conception, or a virgin birth. The gift of ancestralmemory, also called the mind of Creator, comes directly from the 24 Elders. When every individual is born on earth, the Elders send this incarnation or mind of Creator into that person by "detaching" it from themselves. When the Elders send the incarnation into a newly conceived baby without "detaching" it from themselves, then that ancestral memory becomes conscious in that individual, who is then united with the Elders. The person spontaneously becomes aware of it as soon as he reaches puberty. In Jesus' case this happened when he was 12 years old. Such an individual is sent on a mission by the Elders. By being born in unity with them, he is said to have had an immaculate or virgin birth. Jesus was one of seven such people in the last 6,000 years.By cosmic love he meant this unity with the 2 Elders of his tribe, whom he called the Father and Mother. In teaching about true or cosmic love he said, "Be one with your neighbor even asI and the Father (Mother) are one." That is, people can experience cosmic love only by being united as one in mind and heart. He did not say, "Love your neighbor as you love yourself", but rather, "Love your neighbor as yourself", meaning you literally become your twin flame, and he/she becomes you, the two as one in cosmic unity..
...
2)The next lesson he taught was that in order to reach heaven, or the eternal state of mind in which the Elders live, the individual can only get there through the Son and by the help of the HolySpirit, and no other way.The Judges, the Chiefs, and the Elders form the steps of a pyramid of ascendance, with the Elders being the pinnacle or capstone, the final point of eternity. To climb to this pinnacle duringthe rituals of initiation, it is necessary that individuals do so with the help of the Judges and Chiefs. In each of the seven great rituals of the Muur Nation, the people unite first with the minds of the 144,000 Judges, then with the 144 Chiefs, and only then are they able to reach the state of mind of the Elders. Any other direct way would result in failure, as the cosmic state of the Elders is too far up to reach without the help of the Chiefs and Judges, who are called the Son (Daughter) and the Holy Spirit. That is the meaning of the second teaching that one can enter heaven (cosmic unity) only through the Son (Daughter) and by the help of the Holy Spirit...
...
3)The third fact that Jesus came to remind Muurians of is that the Muur woman is Creator, just as perfectly as the Muur man. Two thousand years ago Muurians who lived in the middle east (especially in the region today called Israel and Palestine) had been under the influence of the light races for so long that they had adopted some of their oppressive customs, especially the evil custom of oppressing women. They believed the lie that the woman was made from the man's rib. People such as Paul "the apostle" and his followers did the mostdamage, after Jesus was gone, in furthering this lie. Jesus not only taught that the Muur woman was the Muur man's equal and twin flame without whom neither one is complete, but he actually demonstrated this truth in his relationship with Mary of Magdala. He developed a relationship of equality with this Muur woman and elevated her to a status beyond even his male disciples. They were initially outraged by his attitude, but soon learned the truth they had forgotten..
...
4)Because of his unity with the Chiefs, the Custodians of all universal Forces and Energy, Jesus also had what is called "supernatural" power, or power over the elements, as in the case of turning water into wine, quieting the seas and so on. He made use of these "miracles"to teach the lesson that Muurians are not subjectto the laws of nature, but rather the laws of nature are subject to, and originate from us. Our ancestors of his time, in the midst of their misery, had become superstitious and turned to worshipping natural forces in order to placate them. Such behavior was the result of centuries of ignorance and self-forgetfulness. By demonstrating total control of nature, he reminded them that all the laws and conditions of nature originate from the minds of the 144 Chiefs, who are the custodians of all universal conditions...
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5)His fifth lesson had to do with the renewal of the laws of Moses, who came before him as the fourth messiah. Moses established many laws and customs that had been lost. After he passed,the light races turned his laws and customs into oppressive superstitions. Their leaders turned them into religious rituals with which they ruled and oppressed the masses, even as they do today in the superstitious religion called Judaism.Jesus said he had come to fulfill the laws of Moses, meaning to re-establish them and explain their purpose. Their main purpose was to promote a clean, hygienic way of life, wherebypeople avoid disease through the proper treatment of their bodies, food, and animals. In addition, the laws served the purpose of promoting tranquil co-existence through the so-called "ten commandments". These two things, proper hygiene and proper social relations, lead to a healthy mind and body, and to tranquility, both of which are essential for the attainment of cosmic unity

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Re: Jesus Is Lucifer Aka Morning Star by philfearon(m): 8:26pm On Jan 03, 2015
6)is sixth lesson was about the origin, nature and destiny of the light races. He described to his disciples all that will happen when the rule of the light races comes to an end. His description of the end times was taken by the races and turned into the scenario of armageddon as it is well known today...
...
7)The process of Ascension...
....
But all of this has been corrupted and used to suit the devil-The white man!

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Re: Jesus Is Lucifer Aka Morning Star by mcfynest(m): 11:17pm On Jan 03, 2015
John 1 vs 1 should do it all. If Jesus is the Word of Gid(Bible) and later exhaled him and gave him a name above everyother name, how then is he lucifer that was cast down to earth?
Re: Jesus Is Lucifer Aka Morning Star by Ishilove: 1:43am On Jan 04, 2015
This is not obadiah777 aka sukkot. This Obadiah77 is a copycat and a troll.
Re: Jesus Is Lucifer Aka Morning Star by sukkot: 2:22am On Jan 04, 2015
Ishilove:
This is not obadiah777 aka sukkot. This Obadiah77 is a copycat and a troll.
walahi talahi i hap always said it, obadiah77 is a countapit. SAI BUHARI cheesy grin

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Re: Jesus Is Lucifer Aka Morning Star by Ishilove: 2:23am On Jan 04, 2015
sukkot:
walahi talahi i hap always said it, obadiah77 is a countapit. SAI BUHARI cheesy grin
cheesy
Re: Jesus Is Lucifer Aka Morning Star by sukkot: 2:26am On Jan 04, 2015
Ishilove:

cheesy
happy new year. 2015 is finally here. oh ye insomniac ishi grin
Re: Jesus Is Lucifer Aka Morning Star by Ishilove: 2:29am On Jan 04, 2015
sukkot:
happy new year. 2015 is finally here. oh ye insomniac ishi grin
Same to you sukkot, my brother in Insomnia villa cheesy
Re: Jesus Is Lucifer Aka Morning Star by sukkot: 2:32am On Jan 04, 2015
Ishilove:

Same to you sukkot, my brother in Insomnia villa cheesy
i am a watchman. i am doing the midnight shift. watchman of Yah. i am feening for suya sha. undecided

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Re: Jesus Is Lucifer Aka Morning Star by Ishilove: 2:34am On Jan 04, 2015
sukkot:
i am a watchman. i am doing the midnight shift. watchman of Yah. i am feening for suya sha. undecided
All that suya is liable to end up in your gut and bum tongue
Re: Jesus Is Lucifer Aka Morning Star by sukkot: 2:37am On Jan 04, 2015
Ishilove:

All that suya is liable to end up in your gut and bum tongue
not me. i dont have that kinda body where food accumulates in gut or yansh. i being blessed with athletic genes wink
Re: Jesus Is Lucifer Aka Morning Star by Ishilove: 2:39am On Jan 04, 2015
sukkot:
not me. i dont have that kinda body where food accumulates in gut or yansh. i being blessed with athletic genes wink
Pishure or adonbelivit wink
Re: Jesus Is Lucifer Aka Morning Star by sukkot: 2:47am On Jan 04, 2015
Ishilove:

Pishure or adonbelivit wink
you shall see me in naija soon. i dont do pishure. i am not photogenic cuz i dont know how to pose for a picture. i find it hard to force a smile. lol. either i am smiling naturally or i am not. i dont force it for pictures. so i dont take pics tongue
Re: Jesus Is Lucifer Aka Morning Star by PastorAIO: 3:29am On Jan 04, 2015
so this is the toasting hour on NL. no wahala. Carry on....


sukkot:
you shall see me in naija soon. i dont do pishure. i am not photogenic cuz i dont know how to pose for a picture. i find it hard to force a smile. lol. either i am smiling naturally or i am not. i dont force it for pictures. so i dont take pics tongue
Re: Jesus Is Lucifer Aka Morning Star by johnw74: 4:45am On Jan 04, 2015
Rev 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

2Pe 1:19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:

Isa 14:12 How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations!

Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!



Jesus is the bright and morning star, He is also the day dawn, and the day star.
lucifer is the son of the morning - dawn.

Jesus - the word, created all things including lucifer, the most brilliant of all the angels, that is why lucifer is the son of the dawn - Jesus.
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Re: Jesus Is Lucifer Aka Morning Star by johnw74: 5:24am On Jan 04, 2015
Joh_13:27 And after the sop Satan entered into him.

I used to like thinking that John called satan, the sop.
But the verse is better understood if a commer is inserted.

And after the sop, Satan entered into him.

Sop, being a peice of bread.



Joh 13:21 When Jesus had thus said, he was troubled in spirit, and testified, and said, Verily, verily, I say unto you, that one of you shall betray me.
Joh 13:22 Then the disciples looked one on another, doubting of whom he spake.
Joh 13:23 Now there was leaning on Jesus' bosom one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved.
Joh 13:24 Simon Peter therefore beckoned to him, that he should ask who it should be of whom he spake.
Joh 13:25 He then lying on Jesus' breast saith unto him, Lord, who is it?
Joh 13:26 Jesus answered, He it is, to whom I shall give a sop, when I have dipped it. And when he had dipped the sop, he gave it to Judas Iscariot, the son of Simon.
Joh 13:27 And after the sop Satan entered into him. Then said Jesus unto him, That thou doest, do quickly.
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Re: Jesus Is Lucifer Aka Morning Star by kendrick9(m): 5:52am On Jan 04, 2015
nonsense

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