kay9:

And what happens when the gadgets and toys are taken away?

How often does that happen??

Pierce Brosnam already gave you the answer in Die Another Day - he came out of jail looking like a younger brother to Homo Erectus

Jack Bauer looked worse when he went to a Chinese Jail(He is tougher than 30 Bournes)
These things happen. . . . .Heroes sometimes get captured. Rambo, Bauer, Bond all came outta jail looking strong.
We are yet to find out what would happen to Bourne if he gets locked up. . . .Can he survive it??
Just because the producers of Jason Bourne series are retarded to stay close to reality does not mean Bond is weak.

Bond went to the moon to save earth, abi? Sure. Say that long enough and you might even believe it,

U haven't seen Moonraker?? Upgrade yourself, man!!!

olodo!!

Dork!!!

Alright Sauron, I apologize for calling you names. My bad, aight? My bad. But take a while and look at your argument: First you used toys and gadgets to paint Bond as the better spy - implying that the best spy should have lots of "whizzamiz-gizzmojos". But you forgot to consider what would happen if all that stuff were taken away! Let me give you an analogy: imagine a student who regularly goes into exams armed with "chukulee" He'd must likely pass all his papers in flying colors. But what happens when his "arsenal of microchips" is taken away?? He would certainly fail - fail so badly, he'd be branded the "baba-olodo" of the class!!

And that's what happened to Bond when he was captured in Die Another Day - the poor schmuck had never been in such situation before! He didn't have any smart toy to call into play; he was totally helpless. God, 007 saw hell in that film!!

But check out Jason Bourne. The smart fella has never had need of toys and gadgets (or "microchips and chukulee", and so he's never had to rely on them - he DOESN'T need them! C'mon Sauron, if you had to choose between two agents on whom to trust you life, which one would you choose - the one who uses "chukulee" or the one who doesn't??

They all don't get it ! Bourne is King anyday.
Bourne uses really household items in some cases as deadly weapons.
Unlike those funny gadgets toys Bond moves around with.

Check this out
http://nomorequo..com/2007/08/top-5-jason-bourne-improvised-weapons.html

kay9:

Alright Sauron, I apologize for calling you names. My bad, aight? My bad. But take a while and look at your argument: First you used toys and gadgets to paint Bond as the better spy - implying that the best spy should have lots of "whizzamiz-gizzmojos". But you forgot to consider what would happen if all that stuff were taken away! Let me give you an analogy: imagine a student who regularly goes into exams armed with "chukulee" He'd must likely pass all his papers in flying colors. But what happens when his "arsenal of microchips" is taken away?? He would certainly fail - fail so badly, he'd be branded the "baba-olodo" of the class!!

Are u trying to say Bond cannot fist-fight?? U need to get his collection of movies and watch him beat Karate students "The Man With The Golden Gun", "For Your Eyes Only" etc. He can fight but then sometimes it's not about fists. In the face of bulletz or missiles, gadgets have to come into play.
Letz just say Bond's foes are mightier than Jason Bourne's buncha CIA thugs with their crude methods of tracking their targets down.

And that's what happened to Bond when he was captured in Die Another Day - the poor schmuck had never been in such  situation before! He didn't have any smart toy to call into play; he was totally helpless. God, 007 saw hell in that film!!

The producers of Bourne series make it look like Bourne is unstoppable. Compare Bourne's enemies to the beasts Bond fight everytime.
Remember "JAWS"(Andre the Giant)?? Tanaka(the man with the flying hatt on "Gold Finger" and the likes.
These are human killing machines that would snap Bourne's spine like a match-stick.

But check out Jason Bourne. The smart fella has never had need of toys and gadgets (or "microchips and chukulee", and so he's never had to rely on them - he DOESN'T need them! C'mon Sauron, if you had to choose between two agents on whom to trust you life, which one would you choose - the one who uses "chukulee" or the one who doesn't??

Bourne is crude. He doesn't use toys or gadgets because the concept is well above his intelligence quotient so he relies on man's last line of defence(fists and kicks) to beat his enemies. If i have to choose between the two agents, i would choose Bond.
He will likely take me to Ritz hotel, sip some Dom P and bed a beautiful woman a la Halle Berry to round off a good day.
Now thatz CLASS!!!

This thread is turning into a very interesting baby. Kudos to Kay9 and Sauron. I've never seen Kay9 so worked up about anything before. Usually his posts are like rain in the desert. This goes to show you how much he loves his Bourne. I don't drink but I'd be tempted to grab a pint with you now, fella.

To the rest of the Bond click, try to be objective. Even I have accepted Arsenal won't win anything in my life time.

doyin13:

A spy wey use style get Alzheimer's

Pitiful.

Na this kain grown man still dey wear Pampers.

Hehehehehehehehe!! You tell 'em!!!

There is nothing attractive about a man who can't even remember his own name.

Jeebus!!

Is It James or Jason You Want In Your Corner?

Don't trust his goofy public persona - Jack Black could be a superspy. Why? He's got the initials. James Bond, Jason Bourne, Jack Black. It only makes sense.

Isn't it odd that the two biggest super spies in cinema today both have the initials J.B.? It makes me want to give my son the same step-up in 'coolness' by naming him Jim Bob (wait, that might backfire). When you break down the best super agents in cinema, you can wade through all the cut-rate spies out there, but you're going to have a final round between James Bond and Jason Bourne. And don't think we're out of line by drawing the comparison. Matt Damon himself has been regularly bringing it up in interviews lately, painting Jason Bourne as the spy for the new era and James Bond as an outdated dinosaur^{(kia, see saltiness sha ).}

As Daniel Craig proved in Casino Royale, the legend of 007 is FAR from over. So, who would win the ultimate superspy throwdown? Imagine a super-fight between Bond and Bourne in a number of rounds, each with a different theme.

Who comes out on top?

Enter the ring,

Round One: Hand-to-hand Combat
Have you seen Jason Bourne kick ass? Sure, it helps to have Paul Greengrass shoot your fight scenes - he could make a Hilton-Lohan cat fight look like the deadliest thing you've ever seen - but Bourne knows how to take an enemy down. You literally feel it in the theater, almost as if Bourne's fights might actually be dangerous to you. Daniel Craig proved that Bond could be a physical force as much as an expert marksman, but there's a history of Bonds that we think we could take. Timothy Dalton? Bourne would need one chop move to the neck to take that punk down. Roger Moore? Don't get us started. Even Brosnan would be Bourne toast. There's a reason that all the Bonds need a cadre of weapons for every assignment. Bourne only needs two weapons and they're called left and right.

Advantage: Bourne

Round Two: Coercion
Bond has a long history of ladies who have fallen at his feet, and a few other body parts, but that long line of conquests is almost an unfair advantage, so let's just stay focused on the last three movies. Bourne gets major points for romancing Lola (Franka Potente) and he has an easy-going charm with Julia Stiles in The Bourne Ultimatum. But Bourne doesn't have time for ladies. Bond knows that the fairer sex is worth the time. Saving the world can wait if you get a chance to sleep with someone named Christmas Jones. In Casino Royale alone, Bond romanced the stunning duo of Eva Green and Caterina Murino. When you add Halle Berry, Denise Richards, and Sophie Marceau, this isn't even a competition. (Sorry, Franka.)

Advantage: Bond

Round Three: Gadgets
The two JB superspies have two very different options when it comes to gadgets. Bond takes whatever Q gives him and uses it to his greatest advantage. Bourne can't even carry a cell phone because it will allow his former captors to track him. In Ultimatum, he has to buy a phone just to get a hold of someone with information he needs. We're talking about someone who probably doesn't even carry a watch versus someone whose timepiece has a laser in it. So, what wins? Ultimate gadgets or complete freedom from them? It's a tough call. Bond can use his gadgets to save the day, but Bourne uses his complete freedom from them to evade his enemies. All or nothing?

Advantage: Draw

Round Four: Evasion
If you're sitting in crosstown traffic and one superspy is going to commandeer your vehicle, who do you want it to be? With both, it's unlikely that the car will come back in one piece, but who do you think might actually use your Saturn to evade their enemies? It's not that Bond gets caught a lot in high-speed chases, but he does get captured more regularly than Bourne. In fact, all three Bourne movies are basically about our hero evading his captors. Bond is more the type to allow himself to get caught, infiltrate the enemy, and take them down from within. Bourne can't let that happen. The government can't be taken down from within. So, he keeps running.

Advantage: Bourne

Round Five: International Awareness
In Ultimatum, Bourne travels the world in the blink of an eye. All it takes is a different subtitle (Ex. "Tangier, Morocco" and suddenly he's there. We don't know how he got there, but you get the feeling that it's more difficult that your average commute. How else could a man with no real identity travel so smoothly? Bond, on the other hand, travels out in the open. You picture James sitting in first class drinking a martini while Jason is huddled in the wheel well of the same jet. They can both get to their destination, but Bond can do it with more style. And sometimes style points count.

Advantage: Bond

Round Six: Independence
Does a great superspy operate entirely on his own or does he kick ass in the name of the Queen? It depends on your taste. Bourne doesn't need anyone to help him complete his mission, while Bond has historically needed about half a dozen people from M to Q to Z (we made that last one up) to finish his adventure. Should the great hero be a loner or someone who knows there's no I in team? We'll take the loner. They're usually more reliably deadly. They've got no one to come home to.

Advantage: Bourne

Round Seven: License to Kill
Much of the conversation around the Bourne vs. Bond debate has been sparked by Damon's criticism of Bond being a ruthless killer. Damon told the AP that Bond is "an imperialist and he's a misogynist. He kills people and laughs and sips martinis and wisecracks about it." That's a little harsh, especially in light of the emotional depth that Craig brought the role in Casino Royale. But it raises an interesting point. Do you want your superspy to be a ruthless, wisecracking killer or the kind of guy who loses sleep at night after a completed mission? Bourne is the kind of spy who will cripple his enemy, so the cops can take him in, where Bond's missions force him to choose the ultimate option. In the new millennium, do we want a superspy with the license to kill or do we want a kinder, gentler JB? It's a scary world, Jason. In a spy vs. spy battle, we need someone who can get the job done. Permanently.

Advantage: Bond

Final Score: Bond: 3, Bourne: 3, Draw: 1


Of course, it's a tie. When it comes right down to it, Jason Bourne and James Bond fulfill very different needs in the world of superspy-dom. If you want someone to seduce the ladies, travel in style, and callously pull the trigger on the bad guy, you go with 007. If you want someone to slide under the radar, use his hands as deadly weapons, and consistently evade the enemy, you hire Bourne. If the two of them could work together, they'd be unstoppable. Throw Jack Black into the mix and they'd take over the world.

http://www.ugo.com/ugo/html/article/?id=17598

Look at the way Bond is holding his gun. . . with confidence!!





Running Nko?





Look how relaxed Bond is. . . the kinda guy you wanna go on a date with unlike whatshisface




See Ruggedness!!
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Stick a fork in this thread because it is DONE!!

BOND HAS WON!!!!

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@ Sisijinx,

Thanx for nailing the coffin of em Bourne fans.
Jason what?? Compared to that. . . .Ma name is Bond, James Bond.
Sheer CLASS!!!!

tpia:

dont joke with the Brits abeg.

When it comes to double oh seven, they dont play games with the aura.


[size=18pt]_{is it just me, or is matt damon out of shape?}[/size]

HE IS OUT OF SHAPE!! 

~Sauron~:

@ Sisijinx,

Thanx for nailing the coffin of em Bourne fans.
Jason what?? Compared to that. . . .Ma name is Bond, James Bond.
Sheer CLASS!!!!

Daniel Craig looks like poverty raped his face. He looks like an albino monkey in the suit

Make I hear word. Bond ko. BondSmith ni.

Bourne asaide, Damon is obviously the better looking dude.

Plus the guy was a regular gentleman - he fell in love like any ordinary guy, had his doubts about his woman, and in the end love won out - this makes his character more sincere, more factual, more REAL.

as opposed to that STD infested male LovePeddler. "oh stop it mr bond! tee hee hee"

Have you guys forget that all are movie character.

too obvious it’s Bond for crying out loud

@ Sisi, Sauron, all the other Bond-lovers: It was a good fight; I gotta admit Sisi's post of Bond-Bourne analysis was quite balanced. So Craig comes around with the last two 007s - all mean and bony-faced, thus successfully banishing decades of effeminate Bond characters - and now y'all think Bond wins, abi? Cool, whatever. It's a question of preference anyway.

@ V: You're right man, let's go have a drink. All this Bond-Bourne argument is making me thirsty. Hey Karma, you're invited too! What's it gonna be - Campari? Hennessey? Or Bailey's, _{the drink of the ladies}? Take a pick, and I'm your man!

Sisi Jinx:

Is It James or Jason You Want In Your Corner?
If you want someone to slide under the radar, use his hands as deadly weapons, and consistently evade the enemy, you hire Bourne. If the two of them could work together, they'd be unstoppable. Throw Jack Black into the mix and they'd take over the world.

http://www.ugo.com/ugo/html/article/?id=17598

Jack Black? Yea, he was fantastic in Nacho Libre. Plus, he'll help make Craig less of an albino and more of a hunk.

i am way behind on my movies - but if the bourne movie is anything like the book - i seem to remember bourne was occupied with saving himself - bond on the other hand is occupied with saving the world , not so ?

screw the world. why wouldnt he wanna save the world. How else will he be able to LovePeddler around if everyone died

KarmaMod:

screw the world. why wouldnt he wanna save the world. How else will he be able to LovePeddler around if everyone died

You are relentlesssssssssssssssssss


Boss, I'll have a Martini. . . shaken not stirred.

Bond Vs Bourne - Identity Issues

Bond never goes by an "also known" and is quite proud to announce that he's "Bond, James Bond." Thanks to a case of amnesia brought on by a few gunshot wounds and a long soak in the Mediterranean Sea, Bourne goes by about 37 different aliases and doesn't know his real name until almost the end of 'Ultimatum.'

Bwahahahaha!!

Sisi Jinx:

Bond Vs Bourne - Identity Issues

Bond never goes by an "also known" and is quite proud to announce that he's "Bond, James Bond." Thanks to a case of amnesia brought on by a few gunshot wounds and a long soak in the Mediterranean Sea, Bourne goes by about 37 different aliases and doesn't know his real name until almost the end of 'Ultimatum.'

Bwahahahaha!!

akas/aliases come naturally to American spies; most of them are former career criminals anyhow

oyb:

akas/aliases come naturally to American spies; most of them are former career criminals anyhow

thats an uppercut for the bourne fans.

What makes a spy a good spy?

According to Sisi,

Coercion, License to Kill, International awareness, Independence, Gadgets, Hand-to-hand combat, Evasion.

For Bond, coercion, License to kill, International awareness, doesn't this sound like George W. Bush? Ok we'll have to remove International awareness and I had the good sense not to include Gadgets but it's close enough.

For Bourne, hand-to-hand combat, evasion and Independence, yup, sounds like a man on the field doing 'cloak and dagger' stuff. I don't see how he tied with Bond in Gadgets when Bond is the supremo in that regard. Invisible cars, jeez! Plus why wasn't a bedmatics quotient introduced? That woulda made Bond win for schizzle.

Expecting retorts soon,

This is going to go on till kingdom come.
Bourne's creator paid homage to Ze Master by practically naming his eensy weensy creation after Bond. For Bond fans, that's Nirvana.

Bourne all the way, it has more realism to it then bond

Sorry, I know this thread is old but, Bond is a legend we cannot wish away. He is more of an enternainer, in the sense that you know you are seeing a movie, and so you can sit back, relax and enjoy it. kinda cheesy. Daniel Craig has redeemed the Bond genre. They were never really spies- ashewos and matini drinkers is all they were. Do you notice that craig even 'pursues woman' less than the other ashewos and faces the business of spying? I just love him and consider him my best Bond ever, so far (dethroned Sean Connery). Pierce Brosnan is probably the most elegant, Roger Moore perhaps the most handsome (in his hey day, anyway), but... I don't know... maybe they are puscies. How do such lazy agents that the whole world already knows, get anything done? The CIA agent that Bush and his people exposed had to retire because she was outed. How stupid can it get (except if it is a movie) for a secret agent to go all about town, telling every new babe he sees, and all the bad guys that he is 'Bond... James Bond. All that gadgetry just to get a little thing done, and they always break them. If bond were a pikin, you would probably have stopped buying him things by now.

Again, I think that if craig's JB fought Bourne, he would likely hold his own. For a while. He's bad. He even knows how to improvise with things he sees around. Unfortunately, I think that Bourne would take out even him eventually. Imagine being deadly with a book or a magazine.

Don't even let me start on Ethan Hunt. Far, far, far, far, faker than James Bond could ever hope to be. But I also watch the MIs- they mak good entertainment.

Spies who don't go by aliases work in embassies and are covered by diplomatic immunity. The real spies in the grind, with no protection on the ground have to have aliases and protect their own hide. Anonymity is absolutely essential in the business, unless you are the CIA director or somthing close, and have to be seen on TV and appear before congress. Bond is presented as saving the world, but I think he is gullible. His government has deceived him into thinking that. They are killing innocent people, calling them terrorists and the like. okay, I was just fooling around with that one, but Bourne has learnt to not trust his own government. So I think he is actually wiser.

Jason Bourne is it for me any day. Only Daniel Craig has been able to make me stop for a split second, not to have second thoughts, but to say 'bros I hail o' before I declare the obvious answer. Bourne is mean, he's tough, he's deadly. I would have said he respects women more than Bond, but I suspect that is not a plus with the girls. Sometimes, some ladies do like a ride with a powerful type of guy, even if short-lived, and then cherish the memory.

Bourne also knows things, knows the world (Int'l exposure) and knows his way around toys. He just was trained to be very effective without them.

I will go for Bourne anytym anyday.