genevieve12:

Na only lekki pennisula axis be lagos,so its only the rich elites dat major projects are for,let's stop decieving ourselves as lagosians,the grassroot sector is suffering and smiling.

still it is better than not doing anything at all.

Obaje ti!

Ikwokrikwo:
Fashola commissions generators and calls them power projects.
LMAO

all power plants run in Generators the diffrence is the fuel invol ed in this case compressed gas

NIgerians why don't we borrow leaf from this and judge based on track records rather than petty sentiments. Tomorrow people would judgebased on some flimsy nonsensical issue rather than whats his done.
This is fabulous.
Thumbs up Fashola u are a great man, i only wish u were the one vying to be president

Sammiejokes:

you are a dunce how much are people in ajegunle paying as tax, or how many industries that will help economic growth of the state are in those areas you mentioning, tell your federal government to decentralize power see if we wont put you into shame, you will just start writing without reasoning or you didn't read economics in school

Idi0t, I thought you said you had time for me yesterday. What happened?

Ezyp:
A private company came in built a power station ( meant for street lights and flow of water) and Fash did commissioned the project(good) but who initiated the idea of private companies to take over power generation was it Fash? So please learn to appreciate the transformation agenda

The first ipp was in lagos State, done by Tinubu and Obasanjo insisted all the power must be distributed by nepa, so lagos got almost zero benefit. You get your history right. On the island especially the major hospitals and police stations and street lights are also on ipp. Don't claim this for Jonathan, even the train development plan was initiated by Obasanjo in 2006. An original idea that Jonathan has had, the country is yet to discover. Ish

#change
#GMB
#APC

porka:


PPP in the power sector was a result of the unbundling of the sector completed by the Jonathan administration.

Public power generation was an exclusive of the federal government until now.

Mr man. I repeat don't display your level of ignorance.

I repeat it is not a private project it is a project of the government for the government. You are always allowed from time immemorial to build a power plant as long as it is not meant to be distributed for the sole purpose of exchanging the generation for income. The power project built by Fasola is not for generating income. Its for the governments own private use of powering its facilities.

Had the water board being privatised, it would've changed the whole scenario, but it was not allowed to be privatised therefore what the government did still falls under what has been obtainable from pre-GEJ era.

Dangote built a power generation plant long before GEJ privatised power but was used for his own company and for the community where it was built but not for generation of income.

Lagos state had always wanted to build its own power plant for the whole Lagos state but the PDP government had always blocked the move.

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I am 48 and have lived in Lagos for the past 15 years and in Ajah for the past 10 years. There is a waterworks barely 1km from my house in Badore and ofcourse a Lagoon not far away and have NEVER drank Lagos State water. I generate my own electricity most of the time and secure my house.
So, lets stop praising these politicians either at the state or federal levels for doing pittance! How many of you drink directly from Lagos waterworks 100% without a borehole in your house even in Ikoyi?

Bayswater:


Osinbajo said they will use tankers to supply gas to ipp plants, that's the policy thrust of the APC on power.

I know some people will clap and scream this is a novel idea.
Some will even come on Nairaland to state this as fact.

Unfortunately, Yemi osinbajo needs to be corrected that the gas power plants use is not the liquefied natural gas his tankers carry lol
He made a serious boob there, I wonder why the PDP guys did not call him out.

REGASIFICATION

Jesus is lawd!! You are arguing just for the sake of arguing?

GEJites have this incredible habit of turning a subject upside down before changing it completely with a display of ignorance akin to that of a baboon. Its incredible!

erico2k2:

all power plants run in Generators the diffrence is the fuel invol ed in this case compressed gas

Please don't post wrong information online.

Power plants run on turbines-gas turbines or steam turbines or a combination of the two!

For God sake!

Bayswater:


Osinbajo said they will use tankers to supply gas to ipp plants, that's the policy thrust of the APC on power.

I know some people will clap and scream this is a novel idea.
Some will even come on Nairaland to state this as fact.

Unfortunately, Yemi osinbajo needs to be corrected that the gas power plants use is not the liquefied natural gas his tankers carry lol
He made a serious boob there, I wonder why the PDP guys did not call him out.

You are wrong.
A lot of practising engineers has already debunked and demystified Osinbanjo's statement on a thread on Nairaland.
Wrong again.
CNG tankers carry compressed natural gas and this is economically and operationally not feasible for a typical IPP (small to medium scale sized not the modular plants the LSG is building) which will required large amounts of MMSCFD NG hence the need for liquefaction hence LNG....... as I have already elaborated on the aforementioned thread a while ago.

Change2015:


The first ipp was in lagos State, done by Tinubu and Obasanjo insisted all the power must be distributed by nepa, so lagos got almost zero benefit. You get your history right. On the island especially the major hospitals and police stations and street lights are also on ipp. Don't claim this for Jonathan, even the train development plan was initiated by Obasanjo in 2006. An original idea that Jonathan has had, the country is yet to discover. Ish

#change
#GMB
#APC

First IPP in Lagos?
I stand to be corrected (with proof of course) but isn't it in Akwa Ibom?

ITbomb:
Who got the contract to supply the diesel?

[size=16pt]Tinubu[/size]

And??

tswitch:



First IPP in Lagos?
I stand to be corrected (with proof of course) but isn't it in Akwa Ibom?

http://www.lseb.gov.ng/content/aes-power-barge-project

In 1999, the Lagos State Government (LASG) entered into a Power Purchase Agreement (PPA) with Enron for the purchase of electricity. This was the first Independent Power Project in Nigeria. The PPA divided the project into three phases. Phase I was for three barge-mounted electricity generating units, having an aggregate nominal capacity of 90MW. Phase II was the design, construction and operation of a simple cycle electricity generating facility with a nominal capacity of 548 MW. Phase III was another set of barge-mounted electricity generating units with an aggregate nominal capacity of 180MW. Phase II did not materialize; hence parties proceeded only with Phase I and III. The barges are located at Egbin near Ikorodu.

In view of the legal and regulatory regime at that time, the arrangement therefore was for LASG to buy power from Enron and for same to be distributed by NEPA to the geographical areas specified in the PPA. The purchased power was to be distributed to those geographical areas in addition to, and not in substitution for, any electricity that is generated otherwise than by the barges. These areas were Ikeja, Oshodi, Victoria Island, Marina, Lekki and Apapa.

The plant commenced operations in June 2001 with a total aggregate capacity of 270 MW injected into the national grid.


#change
#GMB
#APC

had no idea there was a thread already.

Change2015:


http://www.lseb.gov.ng/content/aes-power-barge-project

In 1999, the Lagos State Government (LASG) entered into a Power Purchase Agreement (PPA) with Enron for the purchase of electricity. This was the first Independent Power Project in Nigeria. The PPA divided the project into three phases. Phase I was for three barge-mounted electricity generating units, having an aggregate nominal capacity of 90MW. Phase II was the design, construction and operation of a simple cycle electricity generating facility with a nominal capacity of 548 MW. Phase III was another set of barge-mounted electricity generating units with an aggregate nominal capacity of 180MW. Phase II did not materialize; hence parties proceeded only with Phase I and III. The barges are located at Egbin near Ikorodu.

In view of the legal and regulatory regime at that time, the arrangement therefore was for LASG to buy power from Enron and for same to be distributed by NEPA to the geographical areas specified in the PPA. The purchased power was to be distributed to those geographical areas in addition to, and not in substitution for, any electricity that is generated otherwise than by the barges. These areas were Ikeja, Oshodi, Victoria Island, Marina, Lekki and Apapa.

The plant commenced operations in June 2001 with a total aggregate capacity of 270 MW injected into the national grid.


#change
#GMB
#APC

What?
Lagos first IPP?
This not true!

http://www.nnpcgroup.com/PublicRelations/NNPCinthenews/tabid/92/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/220/President-Commissions-First-Independent-Power-Plant.aspx

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2010/07/power-supply-allied-energy-to-double-power-generation-capacity/

http://www.eni.com/en_NG/sustainability/community/social-investments/access-to-energy/access-to-energy.shtml

http://geometricpower.com/projects/aba-phase-i

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/fg-1bn-450mw-azura-ipp-a-path-breaker-for-power-sector/191223/

I actually thought it was Akwa Ibom, but doubted your story when I saw "ERON" since the whole world was agog with the news of Eron scandal that even affected the prestigious Arthur Anderson.

http://allafrica.com/stories/200207290248.html


http://www.forbes.com/2004/09/20/cx_da_0920topnews.html


#NEVERAGAIN

queensmith:


REGASIFICATION

Jesus is lawd!! You are arguing just for the sake of arguing?

GEJites have this incredible habit of turning a subject upside down before changing it completely with a display of ignorance akin to that of a baboon. Its incredible!

Ok, please go ahead and lecture me about re-gasification lol

Smh

Bayswater:


Osinbajo said they will use tankers to supply gas to ipp plants, that's the policy thrust of the APC on power.

I know some people will clap and scream this is a novel idea.
Some will even come on Nairaland to state this as fact.

Unfortunately, Yemi osinbajo needs to be corrected that the gas power plants use is not the liquefied natural gas his tankers carry lol
He made a serious boob there, I wonder why the PDP guys did not call him out.

Compressed Natural gas can be transported via trucks. Do you have knowledge in what you are trying to delve in to?

emiye:


Compressed Natural gas can be transported via trucks. Do you have knowledge in what you are trying to delve in to?

You need to spread the knowledge by completing the story you started.

So what happens when your gas gets to site?

I know you will scream regasification eh?

C'mon jump on it, you are on course to being lectured on why that is not only an arduous task but also a commercially insane one.

tswitch:



What?
Lagos first IPP?
This not true!

http://www.nnpcgroup.com/PublicRelations/NNPCinthenews/tabid/92/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/220/President-Commissions-First-Independent-Power-Plant.aspx

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2010/07/power-supply-allied-energy-to-double-power-generation-capacity/

http://www.eni.com/en_NG/sustainability/community/social-investments/access-to-energy/access-to-energy.shtml

http://geometricpower.com/projects/aba-phase-i

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/fg-1bn-450mw-azura-ipp-a-path-breaker-for-power-sector/191223/

I actually thought it was Akwa Ibom, but doubted your story when I saw "ERON" since the whole world was agog with the news of Eron scandal that even affected the prestigious Arthur Anderson.

http://allafrica.com/stories/200207290248.html


http://www.forbes.com/2004/09/20/cx_da_0920topnews.html


#NEVERAGAIN

It would pay you to pay attention to the dates in the links you reference! The first article is undated and the second says this

The partners, according to him are financing the project to consolidate success recorded by NAER as the most reliable supplier of electricity to the national grid five years after the commissioning of Okpai IPP on April1, 2005

Also note this from the ONEM website (Operator of the Nigerian Electricity Market)
http://www.onemnigeria.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=51&page=about

HISTORY OF MARKET OPERATONS

The FGN, even before the launching of the power policy, was trying to get the private sector into investing in the power industry, especially the international oil companies. The situation of the power industry was so desperate that the government could not bring their investments. Express approvals were granted to some companies to set- up their power plants in order to boost the national generation capacity.

ENRON Nigeria barge Ltd, now AES barge Nigeria Ltd, established its power plant in Lagos, in year 2000, while National AGIP Oil Company in joint ventures with the NNPC also established its power plant in 2001. More and more companies were showing interest and were willing to invest in the power industry.

Lecture ends here. Lagos has always been a pioneering state under the APC.

#change
#GMB
#APC

tswitch:



What?
Lagos first IPP?
This not true!

http://www.nnpcgroup.com/PublicRelations/NNPCinthenews/tabid/92/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/220/President-Commissions-First-Independent-Power-Plant.aspx
I
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2010/07/power-supply-allied-energy-to-double-power-generation-capacity/

http://www.eni.com/en_NG/sustainability/community/social-investments/access-to-energy/access-to-energy.shtml

http://geometricpower.com/projects/aba-phase-i

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/fg-1bn-450mw-azura-ipp-a-path-breaker-for-power-sector/191223/

I actually thought it was Akwa Ibom, but doubted your story when I saw "ERON" since the whole world was agog with the news of Eron scandal that even affected the prestigious Arthur Anderson.

http://allafrica.com/stories/200207290248.html


http://www.forbes.com/2004/09/20/cx_da_0920topnews.html


#NEVERAGAIN

Tinubu built the first IPP in Nigeria when your otuoke dullard was still a boys scout in the creeks.


Again, you people love to run your mouth but you know nothing about your country...

What a shame...

arresa:
Tinubu built the first IPP in Nigeria when your otuoke dullard was still a boys scout in the creeks.


Again, you people love to run your mouth but you know nothing about your country...

What a shame...

Since 2000 at a cost of $3.6 billion for how many megawatts to a bankrupt company

Why has Lagos state not ensured 24 hours light throughout the state since your "built-the-first-IPP-in-Nigeria magic

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anonimi:


Since 2000 at a cost of $3.6 billion for how many megawatts to a bankrupt company

Why has Lagos state not ensured 24 hours light throughout the state since your "built-the-first-IPP-in-Nigeria magic

[/s]


Trolls bore me...

Bayswater:


You need to spread the knowledge by completing the story you started.

So what happens when your gas gets to site?

I know you will scream regasification eh?

C'mon jump on it, you are on course to being lectured on why that is not only an arduous task but also a commercially insane one.

I said Compressed Natural Gas, not Liquefied Natural Gas. you can only talk of regasification for LNG. ......Lecture 1

Again, i ask, are you sure of the part you want to delve in to.?

You must prove with relative costs that it is not commercially viable or put your thumb on hold.

Every now and then, the FG spends billions of naira to protect gas pipelines and spent more billions to replace vandalised gas pipelines over and over.again., that is commercial insanity in my opinion, the FG has continued to do the same thing over and over again and has failed to think outside the box.

Your further comments will show "how much" you know about what you are talking about.

emiye:


I said Compressed Natural Gas, not Liquefied Natural Gas. you can only talk of regasification for LNG. ......Lecture 1

Again, i ask, are you sure of the part you want to delve in to.?

You must prove with relative costs tha9t it is not commercially viable or put your thumb on hold.

Every now and then, the FG spends billions of naira to protect gas pipelines and spent more billions to replace vandalised gas pipelines over and over.again., that is commercial insanity in my opinion, the FG has continued to do the same thing over and over again and has failed to think outside the box.

Your further comments will show "how much" you know about what you are talking about.

I bet my 2 nuts his next comment is going to be the same thoughtless, ignorant and unintelligent rubbish..

You are the fool here, have you seen a power plant without generators Go search for the meaning of generator!

Ikwokrikwo:

Shut up fool! This is a mere generator and not a power plant.
You know what I mean.

emiye:


I said Compressed Natural Gas, not Liquefied Natural Gas. you can only talk of regasification for LNG. ......Lecture 1

Again, i ask, are you sure of the part you want to delve in to.?

You must prove with relative costs that it is not commercially viable or put your thumb on hold.

Every now and then, the FG spends billions of naira to protect gas pipelines and spent more billions to replace vandalised gas pipelines over and over.again., that is commercial insanity in my opinion, the FG has continued to do the same thing over and over again and has failed to think outside the box.

Your further comments will show "how much" you know about what you are talking about.

We are getting there.

The first mistake that needs to be corrected is the impression you people have given us that 'CNG' would be transported to the IPP sites by tankers.

Again nobody transports CNG with tankers in this age, even CNG refuelling stations are directly connected to gas units which are in turn connected to gas pipelines.

I don't know if you know that CNG requires extensively bigger storage space than natural gas.

Hence transferring/transporting it via 'gas units' or 'your tankers' for long distances to the IPP location seems a daunting and very expensive exercise - it is absurd!

I'm sure you know such plants will require a large amount of steady supply of gas. I just don't see how that could be achieved with 'osinbajo's tankers'.

Even the Island Power Project you people have been using as reference point was designed to have a gas pipeline directly feeding into its gas units.

Unfortunately, they have not been able to lay even a kilometre of this pipeline; that pipeline is still a pipe dream because the cost far outweighs the benefits.

They never considered tanker transportation of gas

What is osinbajo even hiding? He started mentioning tankers, what happened to the gas pipeline they planned to construct?

You really need to quit 'talking theory' here, we need to stop bamboozling our people with strange ideas that can't work abeg.

arresa:



Tinubu built the first IPP in Nigeria when your otuoke dullard was still a boys scout in the creeks.


Again, you people love to run your mouth but you know nothing about your country...

What a shame...

MODIFIED.

NNPC (link is on the post you quoted) and others (links also provided) information vary on the first IPP in Nigeria which among them is trying to disrupt history?

Will ask around and come back to this thread.

Bayswater:


We are getting there.

The first mistake that needs to be corrected is the impression you people have given us that 'CNG' would be transported to the IPP sites by tankers.

Again nobody transports CNG with tankers in this age, even CNG refuelling stations are directly connected to gas units which are in turn connected to gas pipelines.

I don't know if you know that CNG requires extensively bigger storage space than natural gas.

Hence transferring/transporting it via 'gas units' or 'your tankers' for long distances to the IPP location seems a daunting and very expensive exercise - it is absurd!

I'm sure you know such plants will require a large amount of steady supply of gas. I just don't see how that could be achieved with 'osinbajo's tankers'.

Even the Island Power Project you people have been using as reference point was designed to have a gas pipeline directly feeding into its gas units.

Unfortunately, they have not been able to lay even a kilometre of this pipeline; that pipeline is still a pipe dream because the cost far outweighs the benefits.

They never considered tanker transportation of gas

What is osinbajo even hiding? He started mentioning tankers, what happened to the gas pipeline they planned to construct?

You really need to quit 'talking theory' here, we need to stop bamboozling our people with strange ideas that can't work abeg.

CNG is still being transported all over the world for small scale industries/users.

The idea of compressing the NG ensures space maximization.

Bayswater:


We are getting there.

The first mistake that needs to be corrected is the impression you people have given us that 'CNG' would be transported to the IPP sites by tankers.

Again nobody transports CNG with tankers in this age, even CNG refuelling stations are directly connected to gas units which are in turn connected to gas pipelines.

I don't know if you know that CNG requires extensively bigger storage space than natural gas.

Hence transferring/transporting it via 'gas units' or 'your tankers' for long distances to the IPP location seems a daunting and very expensive exercise - it is absurd!

I'm sure you know such plants will require a large amount of steady supply of gas. I just don't see how that could be achieved with 'osinbajo's tankers'.

Even the Island Power Project you people have been using as reference point was designed to have a gas pipeline directly feeding into its gas units.

Unfortunately, they have not been able to lay even a kilometre of this pipeline; that pipeline is still a pipe dream because the cost far outweighs the benefits.

They never considered tanker transportation of gas

What is osinbajo even hiding? He started mentioning tankers, what happened to the gas pipeline they planned to construct?

You really need to quit 'talking theory' here, we need to stop bamboozling our people with strange ideas that can't work abeg.

Currently, there are over 100 production, transport and storage
facilities across the country. When LNG is returned to its gaseous
state, it is used across the residential, commercial and industrial
sectors for purposes as diverse as heating, cooking, generating
electricity and manufacturing a wide variety of products. LNG is
also used as a fuel for heavy-duty and other vehicles.

http://www.lngfacts.org/resources/LNG_And_Its_Many_Uses.pdf

Bayswater:


We are getting there.

The first mistake that needs to be corrected is the impression you people have given us that 'CNG' would be transported to the IPP sites by tankers.

Again nobody transports CNG with tankers in this age, even CNG refuelling stations are directly connected to gas units which are in turn connected to gas pipelines.

I don't know if you know that CNG requires extensively bigger storage space than natural gas.

Hence transferring/transporting it via 'gas units' or 'your tankers' for long distances to the IPP location seems a daunting and very expensive exercise - it is absurd!

I'm sure you know such plants will require a large amount of steady supply of gas. I just don't see how that could be achieved with 'osinbajo's tankers'.

Even the Island Power Project you people have been using as reference point was designed to have a gas pipeline directly feeding into its gas units.

Unfortunately, they have not been able to lay even a kilometre of this pipeline; that pipeline is still a pipe dream because the cost far outweighs the benefits.

They never considered tanker transportation of gas

What is osinbajo even hiding? He started mentioning tankers, what happened to the gas pipeline they planned to construct?

You really need to quit 'talking theory' here, we need to stop bamboozling our people with strange ideas that can't work abeg.

What bullocks are you yapping about? There are CNG trucks designed to transport stored CNG to Power plants.


If there is a need for such design, it is very possible, it means the power plants can be ready at a short space of time, and the cost of building such power plants will be far less, as there would no need for a long stretch of gas pipelines from gas suppliers to Power plant, and the issue of pipeline vandalism is out of the way. you wrote

"transferring/transporting it via 'gas units' or 'your tankers' for long distances to the IPP location seems a daunting and very expensive exercise

My response to that is,your ignorance is not permissible or does not justify that it cant be done.