KoloOyinbo:


Lets calm down and look at what the poster said logically. The points he raises on International opinion are valid.

Of course Nigeria has a perfect right to go against this opinion if it wishes! But the rest of the world has a right to disapprove of things it sees as wrong.

On another point. Scrapping a barbaric and primitive law that discriminates and criminalises gays does not "force homosexuality down anyone's throat". It merely means you are seen as tolerant of others and not paranoid about those who are different. (Why this fear of gays and need to behave like savages towards them). No civilized country should have such a law in this day and age.

Governments approve and disapprove of each other the world over so lets address the issues why rather than talk of slave mentalities etc and introduce insult and emotion into reasoned debate.

Does the rest of the world not have a right to its opinions when it sees corruption ANYWHERE or should Nigeria be a special case!

I do not intend to derail this thread...but i strongly wish u can rise above western propaganda to see things as they really are..
Have u cared to ask urself why the same powerful nations that are pushing for abolition of homosexuality have not cared to push for the abolition of polygamy in the west ?
Or are u saying that there ar no folks over there in d western world who would hv wished to marry more than one wife...
Or Is the law banning polygamy not barbaric too.... ?

PassingShot:


Sarcasm?

Resignation.

queensmith:


Resignation.

So you're giving up on Nigeria? Me think it's too early though.

america can go f.eck themselves and drown in a shytehole for all I care

GEJ na mumu. He has brought the country to her knees through cluelessness.

richol:
because we can do it ourselves...stingy beings.

Oi look I spotted an ungrateful urchin.

JayJustus:
america can go f.eck themselves and drown in a shytehole for all I care

Thank you, we'll still be looking down on you though

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ratchetwrench:
Being a very diplomatic country they are, America will never come out to tell you that they can't deploy troops against boko haram because they don't like the present nigerian government. The handwriting on the wall is legible enough. Since GEJ has gotten to power Nigeria relationship with other foreign countries has been soiled tremendously. His relationship with Obama is bad likewise with David Cameron. Nobody wants to associate with this man. But they are all watching keenly nigeria election. If Jonathan wins genuinely they are going to leave nigerians to their fate for another 4 years. But if Buhari wins, they will observe him for months and see if he's someone they can associate with. And if GEJ rigs the election he should be expected to be ousted out like Gbagbo by the world power

Nigeria still remains the place for investments showing a clear line between the peoples of those countries and the politicians of those countries. Why. And which is sincere and of benefit to you. The government or the markets.

Third world, african countries will always be viewed as conquered territories with puppet leaders. Should Buhari kowtow if elected, that is his choice. But believe me it will not pay Nigeria at all. They, the west do not want us independent and strong. That is a fact. Anyone trying to establish that will become their enemy.

Though I hate his guts but just ask Mugabe. Or even Museveni in Uganda. Once you adopt an independent ideology they feet threatened. But what do they do for countries that play good boy to daddy. What have they done for countries such as Ghana with a tanked economy. Nothing.

All GEJ needs to do to get them all lovey dovey again is to burn the PIB.

PassingShot:


So you're giving up on Nigeria? Me think it's too early though.

Ahh probably. But looking at the nature of most Nigerians I don't see the point. Some of them like the way things are.

Idrismusty97:

Point of correction. We don't have a government in Nigeria... Those sponge bobs in Aso Rock can't possibly be a government.

I don't know of any cure for stupidity. That's all I have to say to you. That is the most uncharitable thing to say about your country. Don't think the insult is directed at the person of the president only but the entire nation, its institutions and people. We must learn to comment appropriately not denigrate our nation on the altar of politics.
Apc supporters should learn to distinguish between the occupier of the office and the office. You lose supporters by such careless and thoughtless comments

I think it's a face saving measure by the Americans. The rag-tag army who are ill equipped, unmotivated and poorly trained that can't defeat Boko haram is today dealing a very heavy blow on the same terrorist. That's how the Americans described our army.

My people believe that America reason for not deploying troops is because nigeria has a government. Anyone that believe such bullshit can believe anything and suffering from serious ignoramus. My people don't believe anything until you verify from various independent sources and u feel right about it and read history. History will unlock a lot of u truthfulness in today's world. The Americans not knowing what to say just had to say something for the occasion. if they were so effective why is Isis still expanding their territories?

Please fight for your nation. America like every other nations has their limitations and failing also. All the talks about superpower holds no waters.

hamaworld:
America is better u don't send.
Coz dis present government will corrupt them.

But as from d 1st of June......
Send dem in.. We need to lock

I mean real closing of d border to deal with bok o haram (both physically & spiritually)

My regards to jagaban & co
Nigeria
Sai Buhari/PYO

Do you think hausa fulani will allow the infidel American soldiers to land on soil? You are dreaming walahi.

You thinks from your anus and your words stinks like you.
U.S and U.K are making noise because Gej's government blocked the way from which they were
milking Nigeria dry. Have you heard about PIB,Anti-gay bills etc?. Wise up and wake up from you slumber.
No fucking white asshole wants your fucking development and that is why they are always in support of the Hausa that
they can easily deceive.

Honestly i can only agree with ur point number 5 and part of number 2 but the major issue between GEJ and the UK and US is just that anti gay law he signed and that we are now doing business with China dats just the simple truth.Part of number 2 is where he pardoned someone that was labelled a criminal by them. U knw BH has bin there before he came into power so i dont know why u are blaming him for that. And please lets stop seeing the westerners as saints and understand that they have their own agenda as well.

ratchetwrench:

Thanks for asking. I like when discussion are handled in mature ways instead of abusing and cursing. Back to your question, the reason the world powers America in particular are not comfortable with GEJ is that
(1) he hasn't shown the directorship of leading the west africa region. When it comes to world politics, whether we like it or not, the G7 (or G8 if you like) control things that happen. Now this is where Nigeria comes to play. The so called world powers expect a particular country (most likely the most powerful country) in a region to direct activities going on in that region. Take for example the war in Northern Mali in 2012, though Nigerian soldiers were sent there as part of ecowas, Nigeria government never took a commanding stand as always expected to mediate the crisis.
(2) his government has been labelled corrupt by world leaders. This is clear to all Nigerians that GEJ government just like those before him is corrupt. But the difference between GEJ government and Obasanjo government (the other democratic govt since 1999) is that GEJ has never prosecuted any corrupt personnel to show that he is trying to fight corruption. As a matter a fact he pardoned a convicted criminal of all his offenses
(3) his response to issues of national concern has been abysmal. Let me remind you that when the case of Chibok girls came on, being a serious human violation case, the whole world are interested in Nigerian government response. But do you know what they got, a lackadaisical attitude/response of not capable of handling issues under his nose was displaced by GEJ.
(4) his scorecard is disappointing and america has a minuscule believe in his government. Read what the former US ambassador to Nigeria John Campbell said about Boko Haram insurgency. Campbell said "Boko Haram is a direct result of chronic poor governance by Nigeria's federal and state governments, the political marginalization of northeastern Nigeria, and the region's accelerating impoverishment."
(5) he signed the anti gay law. Though I'm not a fan of gay right before you people start calling me gay or lesbian . The signing of the law when there are other pressing issues soiled the already diminished relationship between GEJ government and the world leaders

These are just little reasons I could come up with from reading and watching on reaction of other governments to GEJ governance. I'm sure there will be many other reasons they don't wanna associate with him. The summary is that GEJ international relations is more disappointing

They might as well stop issuing visas to Nigerians while they are at it. All those posting in the US student visa section should go do their masters in Naija quick quick.

johnsonjosbles:
Its beter US call back her ambasador, what r we even benefiting from useless them sef.

tit:

Eyeraq nko?

all i can say is
America can lie!

see the way tha Lynch of man wan use grammar decieve us.
"there is a democratically elected government in Nigeria"
who doesn't know that? simple, they don't want to help.

queensmith:


Ahh probably. But looking at the nature of most Nigerians I don't see the point. Some of them like the way things are.

True.

Many of them actually if not most. I gave up on Nigeria in 2013 thinking that it can no longer be salvaged. Now I have a renewed hope with what the opposition has achieved so far. My hope may be dashed eventually though but it remains to be seen with the coming elections. If we blow this opportunity, then it will be bye-bye to Nigeria of our dreams.

Story-story...

Idrismusty97:

Point of correction. We don't have a government in Nigeria... Those sponge bobs in Aso Rock can't possibly be a government.

pls reason for once.they are fighting in syria because there is no goverment.then why are they fighting in irak.is even in irak the fight is going on right now.all nigerians should tell him is to shut the hell up and hold his explanation to himself.he new that they were wrong thats why his trying to explain.americans are over extimated.america can not win any war outside america.they have been in irak using three missles to kill one terrorist in irak`s expense in the future.and now iran that everyone is against is now leading the fight and the are kill 50 terrorist with 55 bullets.and have recover 75% of the entire area which was in the hand of the isis in just a week.then do the maths.nagerians should stand for nigeria in all means.and stop beliving in the western jokes...how many people died in world trade center in one day?but still no one insult the country,president or protest in anyway,neither they came together.in nigeria is a different story and belive me that dose not have anything to do with the goverment.is me and u is the problem.

America is the great Babylon they are waiting for the destruction of Nigeria..... The destruction of Nigeria is the destruction of Africa.. May America be thrown down with violence.

You have been doing a good job showing your stupidity all over Nairaland, i wonder whether you believe we are that dumb .

KoloOyinbo:


Lets calm down and look at what the poster said logically. The points he raises on International opinion are valid.

Of course Nigeria has a perfect right to go against this opinion if it wishes! But the rest of the world has a right to disapprove of things it sees as wrong.

On another point. Scrapping a barbaric and primitive law that discriminates and criminalises gays does not "force homosexuality down anyone's throat". It merely means you are seen as tolerant of others and not paranoid about those who are different. (Why this fear of gays and need to behave like savages towards them). No civilized country should have such a law in this day and age.

Governments approve and disapprove of each other the world over so lets address the issues why rather than talk of slave mentalities etc and introduce insult and emotion into reasoned debate.

Does the rest of the world not have a right to its opinions when it sees corruption ANYWHERE or should Nigeria be a special case!

layinkakeem:
Even if they wanted to help us !
#GEJ wouldn't let them ! Cause of the money he earned due to security discussion

Bleep you #GEJ
We want change
We want buhari !

security discussion. ? explain yourseelf pls..

As bros is known to be a liar now,I won't be suprise if he go arrange some small girls as chibok girls before election

Mufasa27:

security discussion. ? explain yourseelf pls..

You explain why you're tactkling me

layinkakeem:


You explain why you're tactkling me

I'm tackling you because of your lame comment

Americans can lie! Simply tell us you're scared of losing soldiers to the faceless enemies, or is it not the same reason Canada did a 'tactical withdrawl'? Abegi, make we hear

Because when they removed the "non-functioning government" in Iraq "democracy peace and justice" were "restored" right? Because when they removed the "non-functioning government" of Libya, Africa‘s "worst nation" all of a sudden became a "democratic paradise" right where the people are happy and are living in "peace freedom and prosperity" right? And so now they want to help the "freedom fighters" depose the "horrible horrible secular all religion, women, education accepting" government of Al Assad" for the fair and "moderate" radicals right? Mmmmmmmm Interesting definition of a "properly functioning government" according to the U.S.

Insurgents don't get support they needed?? Not in Nigeria. When "Ghana must go" still exist.

musicwriter:
For real?. After refusing to supply weapons to Nigeria and now that the war is being won you're explaining?. What if Boko haram was winning the war after your refusal to supply us weapons?.
United States, on who's side are you?. You're either with us or the terrorists!....... George Bush

dont mind them. He is telling us that Nigerian kiniko has cut off boko finance. All this cos the is now being won by Nigerian Military.

But he made one striking point ooo...

Dee60:
[size=15pt]Billions? Where is the money? Well, America will know![/size]

lolzzz USA cant give you something in secret. Why didnt he mention the amount?

Lolzzzz

queensmith:
He's right. There's a brilliant competent government in Nigeria, they don't need help. They'll use the money to wisely and find the girls when they're good and ready.

Stop deceiving yourself. The government is just trying and we can't also ignore the fact that they are highly corrupt and unreliable.