A Muslim American man carrying a duffel bag that holds six homemade explosives, a machete, and poison spray travels to a major U.S. airport. The man enters the airport, approaches the TSA security checkpoint, and then sprays two TSA officers with the poison. He then grabs his machete and chases another TSA officer with it.

This Muslim man is then shot and killed by the police. After the incident, a search of the attacker’s car by the police reveals it contained acetylene and oxygen tanks, two substances that, when mixed together, will yield a powerful explosive.

If this scenario occurred, there’s zero doubt that this would be called a terrorist attack. Zero. It would make headlines across the country and world, and we would see wall-to-wall cable news coverage for days. And, of course, certain right-wing media outlets, many conservative politicians, and Bill Maher would use this event as another excuse to stoke the flames of hate toward Muslims.

Well, last Friday night, this exact event took place at the New Orleans airport—that is, except for one factual difference: The attacker was not Muslim. Consequently, you might be reading about this brazen assault for the first time here, although this incident did receive a smattering of media coverage over the weekend.


The man who commited this attack was Richard White, a 63-year-old former Army serviceman who has long been retired and living on Social Security and disability checks. He was reportedly a devout Jehovah’s Witness.

Given the facts that a man armed with explosives and weapons traveled to an airport and only attacked federal officers, you would think that the word “terrorism” would at least come up as a possibility, right? But it’s not even mentioned.

Instead, law enforcement was quick to chalk this incident up to the attacker’s alleged “mental health issues.” That was pretty amazing police work considering this conclusion came within hours of the attack. There was no mention by police that they had even explored whether White had issues with the federal government stemming from his military service, if there was any evidence he held anti-government views, etc.

Perhaps Mr. White truly was mentally ill. Interviews with his neighbors, however, don’t even give us a hint that he had mental problems. Rather they described White as a “meek” and “kind” man who a few had spoken to just days before the incident and everything seemed fine. You would think these neighbors would at least note that White had a history of mental illness if it was so apparent.

Now I’m not saying definitively that I believe Mr. White was a terrorist. My point is twofold. One is that if White had been a Muslim, the investigation into his motivation by the media and maybe even the police would have essentially been over once his faith had been ascertained. If a Muslim does anything wrong, it’s assumed to be terrorism. (Apparently we Muslims can’t be mentally ill.)

In contrast, when a non-Muslim engages in a violent attack, even on federal government employees, law enforcement and the media immediately look to the person’s mental history, not possible terrorist motivations.

No wonder so many parrot the line, “Not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims.” When the press uses the word terrorism only in connection with the actions of Muslims, the average person would assume that’s the case. However, as I have written about before, in recent years overwhelmingly the terrorist attacks in United States and Europe have been committed by non-Muslims.

If White had been a Muslim, the investigation into his motivation would have essentially been over once his faith had been ascertained.
My second point is that this could have in fact been act of terrorism. White clearly targeted only the TSA officers. He didn’t assault others in the airport, such as the passengers waiting on line at the security checkpoint. And for those unfamiliar, there has been a great deal of animus directed at the TSA by some conservatives and libertarians. Simply Google the words “stop the TSA” and you will see pages of articles denouncing the TSA as an organization hell bent on depriving Americans of our liberty.

For example, Alex Jones’ Infowars website is filled with anti-TSA articles claiming that the TSA’s goal is not to prevent terrorism but to “harass” travelers and get into “our pants.” Glen Beck warned in the past that the TSA was potentially becoming President Obama’s “private army” with the goal being to take away our liberties.

And in 2012, Senator Rand Paul lashed out against the TSA for what he viewed as the agency’s improper treatment of him. In fact after the incident, Paul penned an op-ed denouncing the TSA, writing that “it is infuriating that this agency feels entitled to revoke our civil liberties while doing little to keep us safe.”
Even more alarmingly, the attacks on the TSA have not been limited to words. In October 2012, Paul Ciancia traveled to LAX, where he took out a rifle from his bag and shot two TSA officers, killing one. Ciancia had written anti-government tracts in the past and was—to little media fanfare—actually charged months later with an act of terrorism.

Given this climate, how can the police not even mention that they investigated the possibility of terrorism and ruled it out? I spoke with Colonel John Fortunato, the spokesperson for Jefferson County Sherriff’s Office, which is the agency in charge of the investigation. Fortunato explained that due to state law, they couldn’t release any additional information regarding White’s mental illness or reveal information regarding any treatment he may or may not have undergone.
When I asked Fortunato if they had investigated White’s digital footprint to ascertain whether he had visited any anti-government websites or had searched his residence to see if he possessed an anti-government literature or made or written anti-government statements, he gave me what sounded like a boiler plate response that the investigation has revealed no affiliation to any outside groups. Fortunato expressed his confidence that White had acted alone and that no ties to any terror groups. But he added that we will never truly know what motivated White given he died before being questioned.
But part of me actually believes that there are some in the media and law enforcement who prefer to use the term terrorism only when it applies to a Muslim.
Why? Because it’s easy to do. Muslims are viewed by many as the “other,” not as fellow Americans. But discussing domestic terrorism carried out by fellow Americans is at best, uncomfortable, and at worst, undermines the narrative that some in our country have a vested interest in advancing.

I’m not sure what will change this mindset, but if we want to truly keep Americans safe, law enforcement and the media need to understand that terrorism is not just a Muslim thing.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/03/24/surprise-another-christian-terrorist.html

You are all terrorists. Simple.

You are also one of them.

ooman:
You are all terrorists. Simple.

alienvirus:
You are also one of them.

I dont believe in god, so I have no reason to terrorize.

Nope this is just another normal worldly crime, the man didnt claim he was doing it because people dont believe in his own god or religion.. Crimes are being committed in millions all over the world by christians, muslims, hindhus, other theists even atheists and co but this is just individual crimes and has nothing to do with the religions of the crime perpetrator.

The difference is that Isis, boko haram claim their work is for allah, therefore it is religiously inspired.. So know the difference between a religious inspired crime and a normal day to day crime...

ooman:


I dont believe in god, so I have no reason to terrorize.

Ooman you do not believe in god means you cannot terrorize for any god or religion like boko haram, isil and co are doing, or burn people for heresy or witch crafty thats sure..

But the crime as written above is not a religious crime just a personal stuff probably the dude was mentally deranged but it has nothing to do with his christian beliefs..

johnydon22:
Nope this is just another normal worldly crime, the man didnt claim he was doing it because people dont believe in his own god or religion.. Crimes are being committed in millions all over the world by christians, muslims, hindhus, other theists even atheists and co but this is just individual crimes and has nothing to do with the religions of the crime perpetrator.

The difference is that Isis, boko haram claim their work is for allah, therefore it is religiously inspired.. So know the difference between a religious inspired crime and a normal day to day crime...

THE BEST ANSWER FOR THE OP....Nothing more nothing less!

He is not a christian. Because he said he is a christian doesn't mean he is

An2elect2:
He is not a christian because he said he is a christian

He said he is a christian alright but his crime was not for or because of Christianity its just his own personal crime..

johnydon22:

He said he is a christian alright but his crime was not for or because of Christianity its just his own personal crime..

yes his personal crime. I agree. Why the emphasis on his "belief" then.

An2elect2:


yes his personal crime. I agree. Why the emphasis on his "belief" then.

If you read my post, i told the guy that the crime had nothing to do with the man's belief... The op is probably a muslim trying hard to pin point a crime he can liken to be perpetrated for the christian belief.. but this one is clearly a no no..

An2elect2:


yes his personal crime. I agree. Why the emphasis on his "belief" then.

It's because Muslim apologists want to downplay Islamic terrorism and act like they're a persecuted minority

johnydon22:


If you read my post, i told the guy that the crime had nothing to do with the man's belief... The op is probably a muslim trying hard to pin point a crime he can liken to be perpetrated for the christian belief.. but this one is clearly a no no..

ok

DProDG:


It's because Muslim apologists want to downplay Islamic terrorism and act like they're a persecuted minority

This! but nobody can be fooled, not with all the evil they've perpetrated.

An2elect2:


This! but nobody can be fooled, not with all the evil they've perpetrated.

Yeah thats obvious.. such religious crimes have been committed by christianity in the past tho..

johnydon22:


Yeah thats obvious.. such religious crimes have been committed by christianity in the past tho..

by catholics you mean?

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TEA PARTY AND THE RIGHT
10 of the Worst Terror Attacks by Extreme Christians and Far-Right White Men
Most of the terrorist activity in the U.S. in recent years has come not from Muslims, but from radical Christianists, white supremacists and far-right militia groups.



From Fox News to the Weekly Standard, neoconservatives have tried to paint terrorism as a largely or exclusively Islamic phenomenon. Their message of Islamophobia has been repeated many times since the George W. Bush era: Islam is inherently violent, Christianity is inherently peaceful, and there is no such thing as a Christian terrorist or a white male terrorist. But the facts don’t bear that out. Far-right white male radicals and extreme Christianists are every bit as capable of acts of terrorism as radical Islamists, and to pretend that such terrorists don’t exist does the public a huge disservice. Dzhokhar Anzorovich Tsarnaev and the late Tamerlan Anzorovich Tsarnaev (the Chechen brothers suspected in the Boston Marathon bombing of April 15, 2013) are both considered white and appear to have been motivated in part by radical Islam. And many terrorist attacks in the United States have been carried out by people who were neither Muslims nor dark-skinned.

When white males of the far right carry out violent attacks, neocons and Republicans typically describe them as lone-wolf extremists rather than people who are part of terrorist networks or well-organized terrorist movements. Yet many of the terrorist attacks in the United States have been carried out by people who had long histories of networking with other terrorists. In fact, most of the terrorist activity occurring in the United States in recent years has not come from Muslims, but from a combination of radical Christianists, white supremacists and far-right militia groups.

Below are 10 of the worst examples of non-Islamic terrorism that have occurred in the United States in the last 30 years.


1. Wisconsin Sikh Temple massacre, Aug. 5, 2012. The virulent, neocon-fueled Islamophobia that has plagued post-9/11 America has not only posed a threat to Muslims, it has had deadly consequences for people of other faiths, including Sikhs. Sikhs are not Muslims; the traditional Sikh attire, including their turbans, is different from traditional Sunni, Shiite or Sufi attire. But to a racist, a bearded Sikh looks like a Muslim. Only four days after 9/11, Balbir Singh Sodhi, a Sikh immigrant from India who owned a gas station in Mesa, Arizona, was murdered by Frank Silva Roque, a racist who obviously mistook him for a Muslim.

But Sodhi’s murder was not the last example of anti-Sikh violence in post-9/11 America. On Aug. 5, 2012, white supremacist Wade Michael Page used a semiautomatic weapon to murder six people during an attack on a Sikh temple in Oak Creek, Wisconsin. Page’s connection to the white supremacist movement was well-documented: he had been a member of the neo-Nazi rock bands End Empathy and Definite Hate. Attorney General Eric Holder described the attack as “an act of terrorism, an act of hatred.” It was good to see the nation’s top cop acknowledge that terrorist acts can, in fact, involve white males murdering people of color.

2. The murder of Dr. George Tiller, May 31, 2009. Imagine that a physician had been the victim of an attempted assassination by an Islamic jihadist in 1993, and received numerous death threats from al-Qaeda after that, before being murdered by an al-Qaeda member. Neocons, Fox News and the Christian Right would have had a field day. A physician was the victim of a terrorist killing that day, but neither the terrorist nor the people who inflamed the terrorist were Muslims. Dr. George Tiller, who was shot and killed by anti-abortion terrorist Scott Roeder on May 31, 2009, was a victim of Christian Right terrorism, not al-Qaeda.

Tiller had a long history of being targeted for violence by Christian Right terrorists. In 1986, his clinic was firebombed. Then, in 1993, Tiller was shot five times by female Christian Right terrorist Shelly Shannon (now serving time in a federal prison) but survived that attack. Given that Tiller had been the victim of an attempted murder and received countless death threats after that, Fox News would have done well to avoid fanning the flames of unrest. Instead, Bill O’Reilly repeatedly referred to him as “Tiller the baby killer." When Roeder murdered Tiller, O’Reilly condemned the attack but did so in a way that was lukewarm at best.

Keith Olbermann called O’Reilly out and denounced him as a “facilitator for domestic terrorism” and a “blindly irresponsible man.” And Crazy for Godauthor Frank Schaffer, who was formerly a figure on the Christian Right but has since become critical of that movement, asserted that the Christian Right’s extreme anti-abortion rhetoric “helped create the climate that made this murder likely to happen.” Neocon Ann Coulter, meanwhile, viewed Tiller’s murder as a source of comic relief, telling O’Reilly, “I don't really like to think of it as a murder. It was terminating Tiller in the 203rd trimester.” The Republican/neocon double standard when it comes to terrorism is obvious. At Fox News and AM neocon talk radio, Islamic terrorism is a source of nonstop fear-mongering, while Christian Right terrorism gets a pass.

3. Knoxville Unitarian Universalist Church shooting, July 27, 2008. On July 27, 2008, Christian Right sympathizer Jim David Adkisson walked into the Knoxville Unitarian Universalist Church in Knoxville, Tennessee during a children’s play and began shooting people at random. Two were killed, while seven others were injured but survived. Adkisson said he was motivated by a hatred of liberals, Democrats and gays, and he considered neocon Bernard Goldberg’s book, 100 People Who Are Screwing Up America, his political manifesto. Adkisson (who pleaded guilty to two counts of first-degree murder and is now serving life in prison without parole) was vehemently anti-abortion, but apparently committing an act of terrorism during a children’s play was good ol’ Republican family values. While Adkisson’s act of terrorism was reported on Fox News, it didn't get the round-the-clock coverage an act of Islamic terrorism would have garnered.

4. The murder of Dr. John Britton, July 29, 1994. To hear the Christian Right tell it, there is no such thing as Christian terrorism. Tell that to the victims of the Army of God, a loose network of radical Christianists with a long history of terrorist attacks on abortion providers. One Christian Right terrorist with ties to the Army of God was Paul Jennings Hill, who was executed by lethal injection on Sept. 3, 2003 for the murders of abortion doctor John Britton and his bodyguard James Barrett. Hill shot both of them in cold blood and expressed no remorse whatsoever; he insisted he was doing’s God’s work and has been exalted as a martyr by the Army of God.

5. The Centennial Olympic Park bombing, July 27, 1996. Paul Jennings Hill is hardly the only Christian terrorist who has been praised by the Army of God; that organization has also praised Eric Rudolph, who is serving life without parole for a long list of terrorist attacks committed in the name of Christianity. Rudolph is best known for carrying out the Olympic Park bombing in Atlanta during the 1996 Summer Olympics—a blast that killed spectator Alice Hawthorne and wounded 111 others. Hawthorne wasn’t the only person Rudolph murdered: his bombing of an abortion clinic in Birmingham, Alabama in 1998 caused the death of Robert Sanderson (a Birmingham police officer and part-time security guard) and caused nurse Emily Lyons to lose an eye.

Rudolph’s other acts of Christian terrorism include bombing the Otherwise Lounge (a lesbian bar in Atlanta) in 1997 and an abortion clinic in an Atlanta suburb in 1997. Rudolph was no lone wolf: he was part of a terrorist movement that encouraged his violence. And the Army of God continues to exalt Rudolph as a brave Christian who is doing God’s work.

6. The murder of Barnett Slepian byJames Charles Kopp, Oct. 23, 1998. Like Paul Jennings Hill, Eric Rudolph and Scott Roeder, James Charles Kopp is a radical Christian terrorist who has been exalted as a hero by the Army of God. On Oct. 23, 1998 Kopp fired a single shot into the Amherst, NY home of Barnett Slepian (a doctor who performed abortions), mortally wounding him. Slepian died an hour later. Kopp later claimed he only meant to wound Slepian, not kill him. But Judge Michael D'Amico of Erin County, NY said that the killing was clearly premeditated and sentenced Kopp to 25 years to life. Kopp is a suspect in other anti-abortion terrorist attacks, including the non-fatal shootings of three doctors in Canada, though it appears unlikely that Kopp will be extradited to Canada to face any charges.


7. Planned Parenthood bombing, Brookline, Massachusetts, 1994. Seldom has the term “Christian terrorist” been used in connection with John C. Salvi on AM talk radio or at Fox News, but it’s a term that easily applies to him. In 1994, the radical anti-abortionist and Army of God member attacked a Planned Parenthood clinic in Brookline, Massachusetts, shooting and killing receptionists Shannon Lowney and Lee Ann Nichols and wounding several others. Salvi was found dead in his prison cell in 1996, and his death was ruled a suicide. The Army of God has exalted Salvi as a Christian martyr and described Lowney and Nichols not as victims of domestic terrorism, but as infidels who got what they deserved. The Rev. Donald Spitz, a Christianist and Army of God supporter who is so extreme that even the radical anti-abortion group Operation Rescue disassociated itself from him, has praised Salvi as well.

8. Suicide attack on IRS building in Austin, Texas, Feb. 18, 2010. When Joseph Stack flew a plane into the Echelon office complex (where an IRS office was located), Fox News’ coverage of the incident was calm and matter-of-fact. Republican Rep. Steve King of Iowa seemed to find the attack amusing and joked that it could have been avoided if the federal government had followed his advice and abolished the IRS. Nonetheless, there were two fatalities: Stack and IRS employee Vernon Hunter. Stack left behind a rambling suicide note outlining his reasons for the attack, which included a disdain for the IRS as well as total disgust with health insurance companies and bank bailouts. Some of the most insightful coverage of the incident came from Noam Chomsky, who said that while Stack had some legitimate grievances—millions of Americans shared his outrage over bank bailouts and the practices of health insurance companies—the way he expressed them was absolutely wrong.

9. The murder of Alan Berg, June 18, 1984. One of the most absurd claims some Republicans have made about white supremacists is that they are liberals and progressives. That claim is especially ludicrous in light of the terrorist killing of liberal Denver-based talk show host Alan Berg, a critic of white supremacists who was killed with an automatic weapon on June 18, 1984. The killing was linked to members of the Order, a white supremacist group that had marked Berg for death. Order members David Lane (a former Ku Klux Klan member who had also been active in the Aryan Nations) and Bruce Pierce were both convicted in federal court on charges of racketeering, conspiracy and violating Berg’s civil rights and given what amounted to life sentences.

Robert Matthews, who founded the Order, got that name from a fictional group in white supremacist William Luther Pierce’s anti-Semitic 1978 novel, The Turner Diaries—a book Timothy McVeigh was quite fond of. The novel’s fictional account of the destruction of a government building has been described as the inspiration for the Oklahoma City bombing of 1995.

10. Timothy McVeigh and the Oklahoma City bombing, April 19, 1995. Neocons and Republicans grow angry and uncomfortable whenever Timothy McVeigh is cited as an example of a non-Islamic terrorist. Pointing out that a non-Muslim white male carried out an attack as vicious and deadly as the Oklahoma City bombing doesn’t fit into their narrative that only Muslims and people of color are capable of carrying out terrorist attacks. Neocons will claim that bringing up McVeigh’s name during a discussion of terrorism is a “red herring” that distracts us from fighting radical Islamists, but that downplays the cruel, destructive nature of the attack.

Prior to the al-Qaeda attacks of 9/11, the Oklahoma City bombing McVeigh orchestrated was the most deadly terrorist attack in U.S. history: 168 people were killed and more than 600 were injured. When McVeigh used a rented truck filled with explosives to blow up the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building, his goal was to kill as many people as possible. McVeigh was motivated by an extreme hatred for the U.S. government and saw the attack as revenge for the Ruby Ridge incident of 1992 and the Waco Siege in 1993. He had white supremacist leanings as well (when he was in the U.S. Army, McVeigh was reprimanded for wearing a “white power” T-shirt he had bought at a KKK demonstration). McVeigh was executed on June 11, 2001. He should have served life without parole instead, as a living reminder of the type of viciousness the extreme right is capable of.

The Lord's Resistance Army

Who are they? The Lord’s Resistance Army (LRA) is a Christian Fundamentalist terrorist group originally from Uganda, but now active in the Sudan, the Central African Republic, and other places. Uganda, you may remember, is a hotbed of Christian Fundamentalism, so it makes sense that a group who calls themselves “Christianist” would come from the country. The LRA surfaced in the popular conscious sometime ago when Joesph Kony suddenly became a meme on the internet; up to that point, their main claim to fame is child sex slaves and children soldiers. Indeed, the LRA is known to orchestrate kidnappings, railroading young boys into fighting while forcing young girls into sexual slavery. Those who refused to fight were hacked to pieces. The young girls are forced to be “brides” for the soldiers, and thus helping to spread HIV. They’re especially brutal towards civilians, as well, wiping out entire villages and attacking refugee camps.
The goal of the LRA is pretty straight froward: they want a Bible-based state that uses the Ten Commandments as guide posts. That’s something any right-wing politician or Christianist can sympathize with, right?
7. Ku Klux Klan
Active: 1860s-Present, 149 years
Who are they? These guys don’t need any introduction; every American knows who the Invisible Empire is. The Klan name probably comes from the Ancient Greek ‘κύκλος‘ (kuklos), which means “circle.” There’s a frightening overlap between White Supremacist ideology and Christian terrorism in the Western World, and the Klan is the tip of that iceberg. There’ve actually been three Klans; the first one was formed in 1865, in Pulaski, and drew on former members of the Confederacy Army. They were a vigilante group, and they wore the sheets as a reminder of their fellow Confederates who died (think the classic “sheet ghost” and you’re not far off). Everything about the Klan is geared towards terrorism and psychological war, from the uniform to the cross burning. And while it’s true the Klan got their start as an arm of the Democratic Party, it was back when the Republicans were Theodore Roosevelt and not Sarah Palin, so I dare you to tell a modern Klansman they voted for Barack Obama.
While the Klan started out hunting down and terrorizing freemen and women, that wasn’t their sole target. The Klan is a far right-wing Protestant organization, and being a Protestant organization, they hate Catholics. As a result, Klan has targeted both Catholics and Jews in the (not-so-distant) past. The KKK’s history is so violent, in fact, that many draw a comparison between the KKK and Al Qaeda, although I think that’s an unfair comparison, as I’ll explain below.
6. National Liberation Front of Tripura
Active: 1989 to present, about 30 years
Who are they? You’ve probably heard of the Lord’s Resistance Army and the KKK, but this is a group that I’m pretty sure you haven’t, unless you’re from India. It’s easy for us to forget, as Americans, just how big India is; it’s far more diverse than Europe is, culturally speaking, and it’s roughly the same size. It’s called the “world’s largest democracy” for a reason, but as the United States shows, no democracy is without it’s secessionists. And these folks are just some of the many secessionist organizations in India.
According to their manifesto, the NLFT wants ” to expand the kingdom of God and Christ in Tripura,” and often does so at the point of a gun. They threatened anyone celebrating the Hindu Festival of Durga Puja with death, and are backed by a Baptist Church that’s selling them arms. They’ve orchestrated at least two massacres, and used rape as a tool of intimidation. While the Nayanbasi faction has been shut down, the Biswamohan faction has promised to fight on. So here we have a Christian terrorist group spreading their faith in India “by sword,” metaphorically, and at the point of a gun more prosaically — small wonder we haven’t heard anything about them in the West, huh?
5. Antibalaka
Active: 1990s to present, about 25 years
Who are they? I’ve cited the Central African Genocide in at least two articles now; these are the militia behind that genocide. Their name means “anti-machete” in the Sango and Mandja languages, and they first formed to defend Christians and Animists who were on the receiving end of politically motivated violence carried out by Muslims. As these things often do, the tables turned, and now the Antibalaka is doing what right-wingers only wish they could do: ethnically cleanse their country of all Muslims. This includes children, who they’ve targeted and murdered in the past. Now, the Antibalaka now stand accused of crimes far worse than anything that Séléka, the Muslim rebel group, are guilty of.
4. Catholic Reaction Force/Protestant Action Force
Active: 1983 till 1994; at least 2002 for other groups using the CRF name; 1970s till 1990s for PAF
Who are they? Really, anytime some claims that Christians aren’t violent, all you have to do is direct them to Ireland. I could do a whole entry on what happened in North Ireland, beginning in the 1970s. Americans like to pretend that Eire is Guinness, the Blarney Stone, and leprechauns, but during the 1970s, religious violence a la the Thirty Years’ War was painting the Emerald Isle ruby red. The Irish call this time period The Troubles, and that’s an understatement if there ever was one.
The Provisional IRA is perhaps the best known terrorist agency from the period and would definitely earn their spot on this list, if I weren’t aiming for more obscure groups, but the Catholic Reaction Force and Protestant Action Force were also active and, in the case of the latter, also responsible for a large number of murders. For those who are unfamiliar with the Troubles, it occurred in North Ireland and, as so many European conflicts do, pitted Protestants against Catholics in unmitigated bloodshed. The CRF was behind the Darkley killings, in addition to several mailed bombings in the early 2000s. The PAF, which was far more effective in their killings, has a rap sheet a mile long. You can find it on the Wikipedia page, here.
3. The Orange Volunteers
Active: Early 1970s to Present, about 40 years
Who are they: We’re staying in Ireland for this next group. Fans of science fiction probably remember the Orange Catholic Bible from Frank Herbert’s Dune, but may never have understood why that name was so subversive, or why it was similar to Herbert’s other Coca-Pepsi religious hybrids like Zensunni. Orange is the color of Protestantism in Ireland, and green is the color of Catholicism; when you wear green on St. Patty’s Day, you’re proclaiming your Catholic heritage. The Orange Volunteers, then, are a Protestant terrorist organization.
The OV are Protestant Fundamentalist, and responsible for a number of violent attacks in North Ireland. While the police have been cracking down on the group, the group is still considered to be active and is still terrorizing Catholic citizens and hitting “soft targets.”
2. The Aryan Nations
Active: Unknown, to the Present
Who are they? “The Aryan Nations” is an umbrella agency that nets a large number of White and Christian Supremacist agencies ranging from certain breeds of Neo-Nazi to the KKK itself. It’s heyday was in the 1980s and the 1990s, when various White Nationalist groups would convene at the group’s Idaho compound for their annual congress.
The Aryan Nations got their start in the Christian Identity movement, but has since fractured into no fewer than three factions, with one faction even looking to buddy-buddy with Al-Qaeda in 2005. The Phineas Priesthood is another branch, and they’ve made headlines here on AATTP before. The last faction is the Aryan Nation Revival, which holds to their Christian Identity heritage like small-town Conservatives cling to their guns and Bibles.
1. The Christian Identity Movement
Active: 1920/1930s to Present, about 95 years
Who are they? When you’re dealing with White Nationalism and White Supremacy in the United States, it’s turtles all the way down, but you can almost certainly find God at the top of the heap. That’s what the Christian Identity Movement is; it’s not necessarily an organization so much as it is a loose affiliation of organizations like the Aryan Nations.
The Christian Identity Movement is a very weird movement; they actually have hostile relations with Evangelicals and other charismatic Protestants — not because they’re racist bigots, no; it’s because the CIM is Post-Millennial, where the vast majority of Evangelicals are Pre-Millennial. This distinction is lost on anyone who hasn’t studied the Scofield-Derby Heresies, but the basic idea is that the Tribulation has already occurred and the goal is to build up the world to the second coming. Their theology is just as skewed, though; for instance, members of the CIM believe that non-Caucasians don’t have souls, and therefore, can’t be saved.
The CIM is made up of various Christian terrorist organizations, like Americans Promise Ministries, who are responsible for terrorist attacks and bank robberies; the aforementioned Aryan Nations; the Covenant, the Sword, and the Arm of the Lord; the Oklahoma Constitution Militia; and the South African Groups that were behind the 2002 Soweto bombings.
This group is why I consider the comparison between the KKK and Al-Qaeda to be unfair. The CIM is a worldwide movement, with adherents across the Commonwealth and former-Commonwealth Countries, as well as the United States, and is responsible for ideologically motivated terrorism. This, I think, makes the Christian Identity Movement a much better comparison to Al-Qaeda than the KKK.

An2elect2:

by catholics you mean?

christiandom cus am sure the church you are attending now (if its a pentecostal) wasnt in existence then..

johnydon22:

He said he is a christian alright but his crime was not for or because of Christianity its just his own personal crime..

ma bro in humanity, ve bin monitoring dis section for quite somtimes now. Busy wif ma political career and will soon come back to dis ma section to continue wad I luv doing do most. A religion dat does not value human lives shld be condemned. Islam is false, like I said in some post I know dis guyz too well.
I had ma tertiary education in kwara state, best known as d home of koranic scholars, like prof. Oloyede, prof. Oseni(imam of auchi) whom I ve close ties wif, prof. Quadri(dress code).
Dey tell ya openly dat islam is violent, even while in skool dey openly condemn christians and mock us. Dey so annoying and stu*pid(sowie for d statement)
Sai jonathan!

The crimes Christianity has committed are over 90% of what the cretins among the Muslims committed.

You can only see what you wish to see.

johnydon22:

christiandom cus am sure the church you are attending now (if its a pentecostal) wasnt in existence then..

what an answer i guess to you the catholic cult is the first "church"

alienvirus:
The crimes Christianity has committed are over 90% of what the cretins among the Muslims committed.

You can only see what you wish to see.

Okay here I am 'defending' Christianity. First of all, since you simply copied and pasted you previous 2 posts, I'll do the same. However, let's review. . .

-The total death count from all the attacks listed is ~186. Now compare that to that of 9/11.
-Out of all the attacks listed, only 4 occurred since 2000, the rest are more that 15years old.
-Why are you trying to use a few Christian terrorist acts in 'Murica to downplay the world scale endless Islamic terrorism?
-The christian population in the USA is almost 100x that of the Muslim population so it's no surprise a lot of crime and terrorist attacks might be Christian.
-You mentioned 'terrorist groups' like Army of God and The Order(1886) that are run by a few dozen rednecks, okay...

NB everyone thinks Bill O'reilly and Fox News is retarded

Now here's my own copy and paste of a few Islamic terrorist acts in the USA alone since 2000

2000 H. Rap Brown(Jamil Abdullah Al-Amin) shoots two police officers
2000 New York terror attack
2000 millennium attack plots
2001 September 11 attacks
2002 Los Angeles Airport shooting
2003 Killing of Ariel Sellouk Houston, Texas
2002 José Padilla (Abdullah al-Muhajir) Plot
2002 Buffalo Six
2004 financial buildings plot
2005 Los Angeles bomb plot
2006 Sears Tower plot
2006 Toledo terror plot
2006 transatlantic aircraft plot
2007 Fort Dix attack plot
2007 John F. Kennedy International Airport attack plot
2009 Little Rock recruiting office shooting
2009 Bronx terrorism plot
2009 Dallas Car Bomb Plot by Hosam Maher Husein Smadi
2009 New York City Subway and United Kingdom plot
2009 Fort Hood shooting
2009 Colleen LaRose arrested (not made public until March 2010)
2010 King Salmon, Alaska local meteorologist and wife assassination plots
2010 Alleged Washington Metro bomb plot
2011 Waltham triple murder
2011 Alleged Saudi Arabian student bomb plots
2011 Manhattan terrorism plot
2011 Lone Wolf New York City, Bayonne,NJ pipe bombs plot.
2012 Car bomb plot in Florida.
2013 Boston Marathon bombing
2013 Wichita Airport bombing plot

Death toll = 3,068(over 300 excluding 9/11)

DProDG:


Okay here I am 'defending' Christianity. First of all, since you simply copied and pasted you previous 2 posts, I'll do the same. However, let's review. . .

-The total death count from all the attacks listed is ~186. Now compare that to that of 9/11.
-Out of all the attacks listed, only 4 occurred since 2000, the rest are more that 15years old.
-The christian population in the USA is almost 100x that of the Muslim population so it's no surprise a lot of crime and terrorist attack might be Christian.
-You mentioned 'terrorist groups' like Army of God and The Order(1886) that are run by a few dozen rednecks, okay...

NB everyone thinks Bill O'reilly and Fox News is retarded

Now here's my own copy and paste of a few Islamic terrorist acts in the USA alone since 2000

2000 H. Rap Brown(Jamil Abdullah Al-Amin) shoots two police officers
2000 New York terror attack
2000 millennium attack plots
2001 September 11 attacks
2002 Los Angeles Airport shooting
2003 Killing of Ariel Sellouk Houston, Texas
2002 José Padilla (Abdullah al-Muhajir) Plot
2002 Buffalo Six
2004 financial buildings plot
2005 Los Angeles bomb plot
2006 Sears Tower plot
2006 Toledo terror plot
2006 transatlantic aircraft plot
2007 Fort Dix attack plot
2007 John F. Kennedy International Airport attack plot
2009 Little Rock recruiting office shooting
2009 Bronx terrorism plot
2009 Dallas Car Bomb Plot by Hosam Maher Husein Smadi
2009 New York City Subway and United Kingdom plot
2009 Fort Hood shooting
2009 Colleen LaRose arrested (not made public until March 2010)
2010 King Salmon, Alaska local meteorologist and wife assassination plots
2010 Alleged Washington Metro bomb plot
2011 Waltham triple murder
2011 Alleged Saudi Arabian student bomb plots
2011 Manhattan terrorism plot
2011 Lone Wolf New York City, Bayonne,NJ pipe bombs plot.
2012 Car bomb plot in Florida.
2013 Boston Marathon bombing
2013 Wichita Airport bombing plot

Death toll = 3,068

Thanks

An2elect2:


what an answer i guess to you the catholic cult is the first "church"

lmao... first the early christians were just a sect of judaism, they kept the law and were all judaic oriented. . it was during paul's missionary journeys that the new found belief were propagated to the gentiles and you know the issue that brought whether gentiles are to also observe the law or not and that was why the first council was held (the council of jerusalem) headed by james, it was decided gentiles are not bound by the law.

The catholic church was formed in 3rd century mainly from the result of the council of nicene (called because of the difference in christian teachings e.g the diety of jesus as god or not)
headed by emperor constantine the christian belief was summarized in the nicene creed
... History of christianity 101

I do not know what you are trying to defend here, whether you call the catholics a cult or not still doesnt make them less christians as you.. during the catholic protestant war that lasted 30 years both sects persecuted and murdered each other.

Christianity ruled the world for 1000 years which is referred to as the dark ages in history..

Hmmm, won't have guessed you were American

alienvirus:
It’s easy for us to forget, as Americans

All the groups you listed are either inactive or considered jokes today. Please tell me what the KKK has done in the last 20years and why did you also include groups from India and CAR?
I simply googled "Terrorist Organisations" and it was really hard to spot any non-Islamic one so I'll just copy and paste them all and you'll sort it out yourself. . .

Abdullah Azzam Brigades
Abu Nidal Organization
Abu Sayyaf
Aden-Abyan Islamic Army
Ajnad Misr
Akhil Bharat Nepali Ekta Samaj
al-Aqsa Foundation
al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades
Al-Badr
al-Gama'a al-Islamiyya
Al Ghurabaa
al-Haramain Foundation
Al-Itihaad al-Islamiya
Al-Mourabitoun
Al-Nusra Front
al-Qaeda
al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula
al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb
Takfir wal-Hijra
Al-Umar-Mujahideen
All Tripura Tiger Force
Ansar al-Sharia (Libya)
Ansar al-Sharia (Tunisia)
Ansar al-Islam
Jamaat Ansar al-Sunna
Ansar Bait al-Maqdis
Ansar Dine
Ansaru
Armed Islamic Group of Algeria
Army of Islam
Osbat al-Ansar
Aum Shinrikyo
Babbar Khalsa International
Babbar Khalsa International
Balochistan Liberation Army
Boko Haram
Flag of Caucasian
Caucasus Emirate
Comite' de Blenfaisance et de Solidarite' avec la Plestine
Communist Party of India (Marxist–Leninist)
Communist Party of the Philippines/
New People's Army
Communist Party of Turkey/Marxist–Leninist
Conspiracy of Fire Nuclei
Continuity Irish Republican Army
Cumann na mBan
Deendar Anjuman
Donetsk People's Republic
Dukhtaran-e-Millat
East Turkestan Information Center
East Turkestan Islamic Movement
East Turkestan Liberation Organization
Egyptian Islamic Jihad
Ergenekon
ETA
Fianna Éireann
Force 17
Great Eastern Islamic Raiders' Front
Hamas
Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades
Haqqani network
Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami
Harkat-al-Jihad al-Islami in Bangladesh
Harkat-ul-Mujahideen
Harakat-Ul-Mujahideen/Alami
Harakat Sham al-Islam
Flag of Hezbi Islami Gulbuddin.svg Hezb-e Islami Gulbuddin
Hezbollah
Hezbollah (Turkey)
Hezbollah (Military Wing)
Hezbollah (External Security Organisation)
Hezbollah Al-Heja
Hilafet Devleti
Hizb ut-Tahrir
Hizbul Mujahideen
Hofstad Network
Holy Land Foundation
for Relief and Development
Houthis
Indian Mujahideen
International Sikh Youth Federation
Irish National Liberation Army
Irish People's Liberation Organisation
Islamic Jiha
Jamaat Mujahideen
Islamic Jihad Union
Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan
Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant
Jaish-e-Mohammed
Jaish al-Muhajireen wal-Ansar
Jamaat Ul-Furquan
Jamaat-ul-Mujahideen Bangladesh
Jamiat al-Islah al-Idzhtimai
Jamiat ul-Ansar
Jamiat-e Islami
Jemaah Islamiyah
Jamaah Ansharut Tauhid
Jund al-Sham
Jundallah
Kach and Kahane Chai
Kangleipak Communist Party
Kanglei Yawol Kanna Lup
Kata'ib Hezbollah
Khalistan Commando Force
Khalistan Zindabad Force
Khuddam ul-Islam
Komalah
Kurdistan Democratic Party/North
Kurdistan Freedom Falcons
Kurdistan Workers' Party
Lashkar-e-Taiba
Lashkar-e-Jhangvi
Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam
Libyan Islamic Fighting Group
Loyalist Volunteer Force
Lugansk People's Republic
Manipur People’s Liberation Front
Maoist Communist Centre of India
Marxist–Leninist Communist Party
Moroccan Islamic Combatant Group
Mujahideen Shura Council in the Environs of Jerusalem
Muslim Brotherhood
National Democratic Front of Bodoland
National Liberation Army
National Liberation Front of Tripura
Orange Volunteers
Palestine al-muslima
Palestine Liberation Front
Palestinian Islamic Jihad
Palestinian Relief Development Fund – Interpal
Party of Free Life of Kurdistan
People's Congress of Ichkeria and Dagestan
People's Liberation Army of Manipur
People's Mujahedin of Iran
People's Revolutionary Party of Kangleipak
Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine
Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine – General Command
Provisional Irish Republican Arm
Quds Force
Real Irish Republican Army
Red Hand Commando
Red Hand Defenders
Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia
Revolutionary Organization 17 November
Revolutionary Party of Kurdistan
Revolutionary People's Liberation Party–Front
Revolutionary Struggle
Saor Éire
The Saved Sect
Tevhid-Selam (Al-Quds Army)
Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan
Society of the Revival of Islamic Heritage
Stichting Al Aqsa
Students Islamic Movement of India
Supreme Military Majlis ul-Shura of the United Mujahideen Forces of Caucasus Taliban
Tehreek-e-Nafaz-e-Shariat-e-Mohammadi
Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan
Tamil Nadu Liberation Army
Tamil National Retrieval Troops
Tanzim
Ulster Defence Association
Ulster Volunteer Force
United Liberation Front of Assam
United National Liberation Front
United Self-Defense Forces of Colombia
Vanguards of Conquest
World Tamil Movement
World Uygur Youth Congress

Moral of the story: don't lie to yourself

alienvirus:
Thanks

You're welcome

Do not allude terrorism to a group of people. Everyone is a terrorist. It depends on the definition you have decided to give it.

johnydon22:

lmao... first the early christians were just a sect of judaism, they kept the law and were all judaic oriented. . it was during paul's missionary journeys that the new found belief were propagated to the gentiles and you know the issue that brought whether gentiles are to also observe the law or not and that was why the first council was held (the council of jerusalem) headed by james, it was decided gentiles are not bound by the law.

The catholic church was formed in 3rd century mainly from the result of the council of nicene (called because of the difference in christian teachings e.g the diety of jesus as god or not)
headed by emperor constantine the christian belief was summarized in the nicene creed
... History of christianity 101

I do not know what you are trying to defend here, whether you call the catholics a cult or not still doesnt make them less christians as you.. during the catholic protestant war that lasted 30 years both sects persecuted and murdered each other.

Christianity ruled the world for 1000 years which is referred to as the dark ages in history..

i see..."the early christians were just a sect of judaism" where did you get this lie from. I read my bible and i cant see any place where the early christians referred to themselves as judaists ir even implied such.

The foremost practice of Judaism is obedience to the 613 commandments founded on the laws of Moses.

The early christians were people saved by grace alone thruogh faith alone in Christ alone. They knew the imporatancr of the law and knew it cant be kept by men. And thus they preached.

And that was why Paul could say in Galatians 3:11 that no man is justified before God by keeping the law, rather the righteous man lives by faith.

Judaism speaks about acceptance before God through works and obedience to the laws of moses, Christianity says you are justified by faith of Christ.

Two different beliefs.

I don't blame you at all. Your hatred for anything "God" has clouded your sense of reasoning.

Christians were persecuted by catholics cos they refused to throw the truth away for organised pagan filth. You should research on this one too.

An2elect2:


i see..."the early christians were just a sect of judaism" where did you get this lie from. I read my bible and i cant see any place where the early christians referred to themselves as judaists ir even implied such.

The foremost practice of Judaism is obedience to the 613 commandments founded on the laws of Moses.

The early christians were people saved by grace alone thruogh faith alone in Christ alone. They knew the imporatancr of the law and knew it cant be kept by men. And thus they preached.

And that was why Paul could say in Galatians 3:11 that no man is justified before God by keeping the law, rather the righteous man lives by faith.

Judaism speaks about acceptance before God through works and obedience to the laws of moses, Christianity says you are justified by faith of Christ.

Two different beliefs.

[b[I don't blame you at all. Your hatred for anything "God" has clouded your sense of reasoning.[/b]

Christians were persecuted by catholics cos they refused to throw the truth away for organised pagan filth. You should research on this one too.

lmao stop the ad hominem in the bolded, thats why i hate discussing with you. you get emotionally personal over nothing.

let me now unravel your ignorance before you with only a question.

What religion did Jesus and his disciples practise?
A. Judaism B. Christianity

alienvirus:
Do not allude terrorism to a group of people. Everyone is a terrorist. It depends on the definition you have decided to give it.

And what if I decide to define it as Islam?

Lol, jk, but on a more serious note, don't create a strawman here. No one says terrorism is exclusive to Islam. It just so happens that A LOT of terrorist acts are carried out by muslims...for religious purposes.

BTW, here's UN's take on defining terrorism
'criminal acts, including against civilians, committed with the intent to cause death or serious bodily injury, or taking of hostages, with the purpose to provoke a state of terror in the general public or in a group of persons or particular persons, intimidate a population or compel a government or an international organization to do or to abstain from doing any act, which constitute offences within the scope of and as defined in the international conventions and protocols relating to terrorism, are under no circumstances justifiable by considerations of a political, philosophical, ideological, racial, ethnic, religious or other similar nature,".

johnydon22:
Nope this is just another normal worldly crime, the man didnt claim he was doing it because people dont believe in his own god or religion.. Crimes are being committed in millions all over the world by christians, muslims, hindhus, other theists even atheists and co but this is just individual crimes and has nothing to do with the religions of the crime perpetrator.

The difference is that Isis, boko haram claim their work is for allah, therefore it is religiously inspired.. So know the difference between a religious inspired crime and a normal day to day crime...

Very very smart comment. But know that once u as a "christain" commits a crime or murder someone etc then u have gone against Christ's teachings and hence should not call yourself a christain. Crime committing "christains" and atheists have one thing in common, their is no command, doctrine, etc that calls for or justifies such wickedness.