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Re: Fr Mbaka Has Been Vindicated. by italo: 6:22pm On Apr 02, 2015 |
ChokolateBoss: Already read a little of his blog. You're correct. One apologist whose style of arguing I love and emulate is John Martignoni. He knows how to table his argument clearly while making his opponents look stupidd. Www.biblechristiansociety.com is his site. |
Re: Fr Mbaka Has Been Vindicated. by adsonstone: 7:08pm On Apr 02, 2015 |
italo: Again: .: www.democracyweb.org/elections/principles.php Does Kumuyi's statement conform to that? Yes or No? Simple question. When you answer, we can move to your side of the election story. |
Re: Fr Mbaka Has Been Vindicated. by Nobody: 7:11pm On Apr 02, 2015 |
adsonstone: See how u're making urself sound stupid just because u want to win argument. How can u say being guilty does not constitute direct wrongdoing? If u're guilty of sth, then there's direct wrongdoing involved in that thing u're guilty of. Guilty pple are culpable of their offence. It follows logically. E.g if u're guilty of theft, then culpability follows. A culpable person is someone who deserves blame or censure. Now if someone actually deserves blame or censure, then d person cannot be innocent cos innocent pple do not deserve blame or censure. As for ur analogy, its deeply flawed. One cannot be innocent and culpable of a crime at d same time. That's a contradiction. The eyewitness who is scared to expose the robbers will be guilty of obstruction of justice and hence culpable. He won't be guilty of armed robbery or censured for it. Abeg I've digressed from the OP. Shouldn't be explaining this to a grown asss man sef |
Re: Fr Mbaka Has Been Vindicated. by adsonstone: 7:44pm On Apr 02, 2015 |
ChokolateBoss: The bold in your statement validates my point. The said man is innocent, yet culpable. You seem to be in-between your words. Besides, I'm not trying to win any argument...and if you are, I declare you winner. Congratulations! 1 Like |
Re: Fr Mbaka Has Been Vindicated. by italo: 9:38pm On Apr 02, 2015 |
U adsonstone: NO. From the link you provided: Free, Fair, and Regular As with defining electoral and representative systems, there are no precise definitions for regular, free, and fair elections. International human rights conventions have established a basic consensus, most importantly Article 21 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which states that elections must be periodic, genuine, organized according to universal suffrage, and by secret ballot. Is the video below what you understand by the bold? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szFfQOelXJs&app=desktop An election in which many INEC State Collation Officers reported rampant hijacking of ballot boxes, card readers, ballot papers, result sheets, and even election officials, substitution of INEC Officials, over-voting... ...Gov Rochas was filmed confronting the Army for locking away eligible voters in his home town, Gov Oshiomhole was seen on TV saying the Army prevented INEC Officers from going to their posts. Gov Amaechi is seen on TV reporting missing result sheets at his PU. Hundreds of thousands couldn't get their PVCs because INEC Staff connived with party agents to steal them. Is this what the bold means? |
Re: Fr Mbaka Has Been Vindicated. by italo: 9:43pm On Apr 02, 2015 |
ChokolateBoss:That's what you get on nairaland. Shameless people who would rather die than accept a simple truth. What pains me most is that many of them claim to be "Christians." Christianity built on lies. |
Re: Fr Mbaka Has Been Vindicated. by Nobody: 10:09pm On Apr 02, 2015 |
adsonstone: So u're still saying someone can be innocent of an offence and still deserve to be blamed or censured for that same offence. Ogbeni FOH. I don't like coming across ur type |
Re: Fr Mbaka Has Been Vindicated. by Nobody: 10:15pm On Apr 02, 2015 |
italo: It is a futile attempt to argue with these kind of pple cos truth and sound logic makes no sense to them. So I advise u quit and focus on ur thread. Else u'll just be wasting time, energy and bandwidth |
Re: Fr Mbaka Has Been Vindicated. by adsonstone: 10:49pm On Apr 02, 2015 |
ChokolateBoss: For the same offence? I can't remember saying that. Please, show me where. |
Re: Fr Mbaka Has Been Vindicated. by Nobody: 11:14pm On Apr 02, 2015 |
adsonstone: Ogbeni like I told u b4, FOH. Na me u wan folo do wordplay? Someone cannot be innocent and yet culpable. Use a dictionary and check d meaning of culpable. When u're wrong, accept correctn n stop arguing pointlessly Stop quoting me. |
Re: Fr Mbaka Has Been Vindicated. by adsonstone: 11:29pm On Apr 02, 2015 |
italo: Evidence for the bold? |
Re: Fr Mbaka Has Been Vindicated. by adsonstone: 1:15am On Apr 03, 2015 |
ChokolateBoss: But someone can be a saint, yet sinner. Thanks anyway, your frustration has been noticed. |
Re: Fr Mbaka Has Been Vindicated. by italo: 6:41am On Apr 03, 2015 |
adsonstone:http://www.naij.com/412154-inec-officials-party-agents-arrested- -sokoto.html http://www.naij.com/412616-apc-presented-thousands-of-discarded-ballots-in-akwa-ibom.html http://dailytimes.com.ng/inec-official-arrested-for-illegally-collating-results-in-delta/ http://leadership.ng/news/421741/police-arrest-inec-official-in-taraba-over-electoral-fraud https://www.youtube.com/embed/WLIakdsUzLs http://www.naij.com/412127-gov-okorocha-demands-the-release-of-voters-unlawfully-detained-by-army.html http://dailyindependentnig.com/2015/03/oshiomhole-shocked-soldiers-block-inec-officials/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCmjB8P11D0 Let me agree with you that the above practices are the true definition of free and fair election... at least in deeper life church...so that I don't have to put up with your deceit any longer. |
Re: Fr Mbaka Has Been Vindicated. by adsonstone: 7:47am On Apr 03, 2015 |
italo: Inasmuch as most of the reports you put up there are mere allegations, some may be valid. Also, I believe it is not wrong for a pastor to make a positive pronouncement with optimism...unless you wanna prove otherwise. The essence of his statement on the message was to urge Nigerians not to be scared of the elections and that their votes will count. In a previous meeting .: |
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