The Fable of the Christ Michael B. Paulkovich
I have always been a staunch Bible skeptic but not a Christ-mythicist. I
maintained that Jesus probably existed
but had fantastic stories foisted upon
the memory of his earthly yet
iconoclastic life. After exhaustive research for my first
book, I began to perceive both the light
and darkness from history. I discovered
that many prominent Christian fathers
believed with all pious sincerity that
their savior never came to Earth or that if he did, he was a Star-Trekian
character who beamed down pre-
haloed and full-grown, sans
transvaginal egress. And I discovered
other startling bombshells. An exercise that struck me as
meritorious, even today singular,
involved reviving research into Jesus-era
writers who should have recorded Christ
tales but did not. John Remsburg
enumerated forty-one “silent” historians in The Christ (1909). To this
end, I spent many hours bivouacked in
university libraries, the Library of
Congress, and on the Internet. I
terminated that foray upon tripling
Remsburg’s count: in my book, I offer 126 writers who should have but did
not write about Jesus (see the box on p.
57). Perhaps the most bewildering
“silent one” is the super-Savior himself.
Jesus is a phantom of a wisp of a
personage who never wrote anything. So, add one more: 127. Perhaps none of these writers is more
fascinating than Apollonius Tyanus,
saintly first-century adventurer and
noble paladin. Apollonius was a magic-
man of divine birth who cured the sick
and blind, cleansed entire cities of plague, foretold the future, and fed the
masses. He was worshiped as a god and
as a son of a god. Despite such
nonsense claims, Apollonius was a real
man recorded by reliable sources. Because Jesus ostensibly performed
miracles of global expanse (such as in
Matthew 27), his words going “unto the
ends of the whole world” (Rom. 10),
one would expect virtually every literate
person to have recorded those events. A Jesus contemporary such as Apollonius
would have done so, as well as those
who wrote of Apollonius. Such is not the case. In Philostratus’s
third-century chronicle Vita Apollonii,
there is no hint of Jesus. Nor does Jesus
appear in the works of other Apollonius
epistolarians and scriveners: Emperor
Titus, Cassius Dio, Maximus, Moeragenes, Lucian, Soterichus Oasites,
Euphrates, Marcus Aurelius, or Damis of
Hierapolis. It seems that none of these
first- to third-century writers ever heard
of Jesus, his miracles and alleged
worldwide fame be damned. Another bewildering author is Philo of
Alexandria. He spent his first-century life
in the Levant and even traversed Jesus-
land. Philo chronicled contemporaries of
Jesus—Bassus, Pilate, Tiberius, Sejanus,
Caligula—yet knew nothing of the storied prophet and rabble-rouser
enveloped in glory and astral marvels. Historian Flavius Josephus published his
Jewish Wars circa 95 CE. He had lived in
Japhia, one mile from Nazareth—yet
Josephus seems unaware of both
Nazareth and Jesus. (I devoted a chapter
to the interpolations in Josephus’s works that make him appear to write of
Jesus when he did not.) The Bible venerates the artist formerly
known as Saul of Tarsus, but he was a
man essentially oblivious to his savior.
Paul was unaware of the virgin mother
and ignorant of Jesus’s nativity,
parentage, life events, ministry, miracles, apostles, betrayal, trial, and
harrowing passion. Paul didn’t know
where or when Jesus lived and
considered the crucifixion metaphorical
(Gal. 2:19–20). Unlike what is claimed in
the Gospels, Paul never indicated that Jesus had come to Earth. And the “five
hundred witnesses” claim (1 Cor. 15) is
a forgery. Qumran, hidey-hole for the Dead Sea
Scrolls, lies twelve miles from
Bethlehem. The scroll writers, coeval
and abutting the holiest of hamlets one
jaunty jog eastward, never heard of
Jesus. Christianity still had that new-cult smell in the second century, but
Christian presbyter Marcion of Pontus in
144 CE denied any virgin birth or
childhood for Christ. Jesus’s infant
circumcision (Luke 2:21) was thus a lie,
as well as the crucifixion! Marcion claimed that Luke was corrupted; Christ
self-spawned in omnipresence, esprit
sans corps. I read the works of second-century
Christian father Athenagoras and never
encountered the word Jesus—
Athenagoras was unacquainted with the
name of his savior! This floored me. Had
I missed something? No; Athenagoras was another pious early Christian who
was unaware of Jesus. The original Mark ended at 16:8, with
later forgers adding the fanciful
resurrection tale. John 21 also describes
post-death Jesus tales, another forgery.
Millions should have heard of the
crucifixion with its astral enchantments: zombie armies and meteorological
marvels (Matt. 27) recorded not by any
historian but only in the dubitable
scriptures scribbled decades later by
superstitious folks. The Jesus saga is
further deflated by Nazareth, a town without piety and in fact having no
settlement until after the war of 70 CE
—suspiciously, just around the time the
Gospels were concocted. Conclusion When I consider those 126 writers, all of
whom should have heard of Jesus but
did not—and Paul and Marcion and
Athenagoras and Matthew with a
tetralogy of opposing Christs, the
silence from Qumran and Nazareth and Bethlehem, conflicting Bible stories, and
so many other mysteries and omissions
—I must conclude that Christ is a
mythical character. Jesus of Nazareth
was nothing more than an urban (or
desert) legend, likely an agglomeration of several evangelic and deluded rabbis
who might have existed. I also include in my book similarities of
Jesus to earlier God-sons such as Sandan
and Mithra and Horus and Attis, too
striking to disregard. The Oxford
Classical Dictionary and Catholic
Encyclopedia, as well as many others, corroborate. Thus, today I side with Remsburg—and
with Frank Zindler, John M. Allegro,
Godfrey Higgins, Robert M. Price,
Salomon Reinach, Samuel Lublinski,
Charles-François Dupuis, Allard Pierson,
Rudolf Steck, Arthur Drews, Prosper Alfaric, Georges Ory, Tom Harpur,
Michael Martin, John Mackinnon
Robertson, Alvar Ellegård, David
Fitzgerald, Richard Carrier, René Salm,
Timothy Freke, Peter Gandy, Barbara
Walker, Michael Martin, D.M. Murdock, Thomas Brodie, Earl Doherty, Thomas L.
Thompson, Bruno Bauer, and others—
heretics and iconoclasts and
freethinking dunces all, it would seem. If all the evidence and nonevidence
including 126 (127?) silent writers
cannot convince, I’ll wager that we will
uncover much more. Yet this is but a
tiny tip of the mythical-Jesus iceberg:
nothing adds up for the fable of the Christ.


Michael Paulkovich is an aerospace
engineer and freelance writer, a
frequent contributor to Free Inquiry and
Humanist Perspectives magazines, a
contributing editor at The American
Rationalist, and a columnist for American Atheist. His book No Meek
Messiah was pusblished in 2013 by
Spillix.
https://www.secularhumanism.org/index.php/articles/5656

malvisguy212:
why are muslims soo rude when ever they are shown the flaws in there book? You said the Jews know that Jesus is the messiah and they conspired to killed him? Go to isreal now, ask any Jews about the messiah, their answer will be " we are still waiting for his coming" why will they conspired to killed the one who they are waiting for?

According to the prophecy, the messiah will deliver the kingdom to the Jews , all the kings in the bible fought war for the Jews and win it, so when Jesus claimed to fulfilled this prophecy, they are hoping he will continue the tradition of fighting war for them;

Acts 1:6-7
6 So when they had come together, they
asked him, “Lord, will you at this time
RESTORED THE KINGDOM TO ISREAL ?” 7 He said
to them, “It is not for you to know times
or seasons that the Father has fixed by
his own authority.

In verse 8 Jesus told them to preach the gospel to the end of the earth, meaning JESUS CAME TO CALLED THE SINNERS TO REPENTENC.
Mark2:17>>>17 And hearing this, Jesus said to them, “It is not those who are healthy who need a physician, but those who are sick; I did not come to call the righteous, but SINNERS.

That why the Jews did not accepts him as their messiah,because he did not fight war as deed the old testament kings like David,ahab,saul solomon and the rest. Now if the Jew know Jesus is the messiah according to the quran, why will they want to killed him? I repeat,muhammed is very very confused here, he did not no what he was writing.

Buha buhaa ! Which flaw you showed? I can show you thousands of flaws in the novel in your hand called bible.
Please do you have work at all ?
So you typed all these rubish to yank nonsense.I pity for you.
It is glaring you will may liable to high BP over Islam.please continue, I will like to laugh at you more and more.

gearcoin:

Buha buhaa ! Which flaw you showed? I can show you thousands of flaws in the novel in your hand called bible.
Please do you have work at all ?
So you typed all these rubish to yank nonsense.I pity for you.
It is glaring you will may liable to high BP over Islam.please continue, I will like to laugh at you more and more.

you don't know what to say anymore then you chose to reply me with abusive word, thank you for your time. Peace.

malvisguy212:
you don't know what to say anymore then you chose to reply me with abusive word, thank you for your time. Peace.

I studied your act in the previous thread also. You always repeat words upon words.
Do you think everybody has time to waste like you.
like other people, I have taken my time to treat your delusional thinking and you persist to remain in your delusional belief do you want me to force it in your brain.
You better use your time well and stop sleeping and waking up on nairaland posting useless thrash.learn how to use nairaland wisely.
It is not a must of us to treat your delusiniasis syndrome, we only quote you to aware the audience your public trash.
You raised a point I dispute it and you did not agree to my point and so what ! You want me to force you or waste my time on you ? which I will never do. If you like die as a christian or pagan nobody care. For me, am proud to be a muslim and I pray to die as a good muslim.
You will only see my response if you want me to believe in your delusional believe which I pray to forbid foreever in my life.
Peace .

gearcoin:

I studied your act in the previous thread also. You always repeat words upon words.
Do you think everybody has time to waste like you.
like other people, I have taken my time to treat your delusional thinking and you persist to remain in your delusional belief do you want me to force it in your brain.
You better use your time well and stop sleeping and waking up on nairaland posting useless thrash.learn how to use nairaland wisely.
It is not a must of us to treat your delusiniasis syndrome, we only quote you to aware the audience your public trash.
You raised a point I dispute it and you did not agree to my point and so what ! You want me to force you or waste me time on you ? which I will never do.
Peace .

let me show you one more error.

Both the Qur’an and the Bible tell us very clearly that Jesus had no human father.
We must therefore ask ourselves this
vital question, “Since Jesus is addressed
as a ‘son’ by the angel Gabriel both in
the Qur’an (Surah 19:19) and in the Bible (Luke 1:35), whose son is he?”
Is it Mary’s? In Surah 19:19, the angel
Gabriel said to Mary: “I am only a
messenger of thy Lord, to announce to
thee the GIFT of a holy son .” Here,
Gabriel refers to a son who was to be
given as a “GIFT” by God to Mary. Since
the Qur’an makes it very clear that the
son is a gift from God, it shows that Mary was only the recipient of that gift. She is not the source of that gift but God. The gift belongs to God. The gift was a son. Therefore, the son belongs to God which means the son was His or His
son. In other words, God’s son. This
testifies to the Gospel truth that Jesus is
the Son of God.

The word “son” means “a human male
considered with reference to both his
parents or either one of them; a male
descendant.” Every male child or person
has to be the son of a father who
produced or generated his life.and the quran keep on calling Him "son of Mary" who was his father? If you don't know the father of Jesus, you do not know the true God.

malvisguy212:
let me show you one more error.

Both the Qur’an and the Bible tell us very clearly that Jesus had no human father.
We must therefore ask ourselves this
vital question, “Since Jesus is addressed
as a ‘son’ by the angel Gabriel both in
the Qur’an (Surah 19:19) and in the Bible (Luke 1:35), whose son is he?”
Is it Mary’s? In Surah 19:19, the angel
Gabriel said to Mary: “I am only a
messenger of thy Lord, to announce to
thee the GIFT of a holy son .” Here,
Gabriel refers to a son who was to be
given as a “GIFT” by God to Mary. Since
the Qur’an makes it very clear that the
son is a gift from God, it shows that Mary was only the recipient of that gift. She is not the source of that gift but God. The gift belongs to God. The gift was a son. Therefore, the son belongs to God which means the son was His or His
son. In other words, God’s son. This
testifies to the Gospel truth that Jesus is
the Son of God.

The word “son” means “a human male
considered with reference to both his
parents or either one of them; a male
descendant.” Every male child or person
has to be the son of a father who
produced or generated his life.and the quran keep on calling Him "son of Mary" who was his father? If you don't know the father of Jesus, you do not know the true God.

I can now see you surely have problems.
Am not on board to treat your disease.
Please take your time and type and post more. Lolzz

davien:



Most antiquities scholars think that the New Testament gospels are “mythologized history.”
In other words, they think that around the start of the first century a controversial Jewish rabbi named Yeshua ben Yosef gathered a following and his life and teachings provided the seed that grew into Christianity.




http://www.alternet.org/belief/5-reasons-suspect-jesus-never-existed



The rest are answered here...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwUZOZN-9dc

Pls read the article in the link below. Its titled ' WHY YOU CAN BELIEVE THE BIBLE'. I do not expect you to believe in Christ's ressurection since you consider the NT gospels as mythologized history.

You are probably not aware that other writers in the New Testament aside those of the synoptic and John confirmed the death and ressurection of Jesus Christ on account of which they also suffered and martyred. You may have also forgotten that the Jewish Talmud and other early historians acknowledged the existence of a man called Yeshua/Jesus.
http://www.everystudent.com/features/bible.html

Bifwoli:


LoL, black men need Jesus as a reminder to pull up their socks of life.

it's easier to give up than to keep going, bro..

gearcoin:

I can now see you surely have problems.
Am not on board to treat your disease.
Please take your time and type and post more. Lolzz

if you decided to reject the grace of God He bestows upon Jesus christ, it's your choice,either you believe or you reject, it's your freewill. Thank you for your time. Peace

Unbias:


Pls read the article in the link below. Its titled ' WHY YOU CAN BELIEVE THE BIBLE'. I do not expect you to believe in Christ's ressurection since you consider the NT gospels as mythologized history.

You are probably not aware that other writers in the New Testament aside those of the synoptic and John confirmed the death and ressurection of Jesus Christ on account of which they also suffered and martyred. You may have also forgotten that the Jewish Talmud and other early historians acknowledged the existence of a man called Yeshua/Jesus.
http://www.everystudent.com/features/bible.html

also brother,this link help too

http://www.rationalchristianity.net/jesus_extrabib.html


Tacitus (c. A.D. 55 - c. A.D. 117)
Annals, book XV:
Consequently, to get rid of the report,
Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted
the most exquisite tortures on a class
hated for their abominations, called
Christians by the populace. CHRISTUS,
from whom the NAME HAD ITS ORIGIN ,
SURFERED the extreme penalty during
the reign of Tiberius at the hands of
one of our procurators, Pontius
Pilatus, and a most mischievous
superstition, thus checked for the
moment, again broke out not only in
Judaea, the first source of the evil,
but even in Rome, where all things
hideous and shameful from every
part of the world find their centre and
become popular.

malvisguy212:
also brother,this link help too

http://www.rationalchristianity.net/jesus_extrabib.html


Tacitus (c. A.D. 55 - c. A.D. 117)
Annals, book XV:
Consequently, to get rid of the report,
Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted
the most exquisite tortures on a class
hated for their abominations, called
Christians by the populace. CHRISTUS,
from whom the NAME HAD ITS ORIGIN ,
SURFERED the extreme penalty during
the reign of Tiberius at the hands of
one of our procurators, Pontius
Pilatus, and a most mischievous
superstition, thus checked for the
moment, again broke out not only in
Judaea, the first source of the evil,
but even in Rome, where all things
hideous and shameful from every
part of the world find their centre and
become popular.

Thanks Bro. As we commemorate His death and ressurection, may our strenght and hope be renewed.
Death could not hold Him captive... Alleluia

Unbias:

Thanks Bro. As we commemorate His death and ressurection, may our strenght and hope be renewed.
Death could not hold Him captive... Alleluia

A very big Amen to that.
Thank you for this wonderful thread, I was planing to create thread like this but when I saw this, you just reduce my stress .

Unbias:


Pls read the article in the link below. Its titled ' WHY YOU CAN BELIEVE THE BIBLE'. I do not expect you to believe in Christ's ressurection since you consider the NT gospels as mythologized history.

You are probably not aware that other writers in the New Testament aside those of the synoptic and John confirmed the death and ressurection of Jesus Christ on account of which they also suffered and martyred. You may have also forgotten that the Jewish Talmud and other early historians acknowledged the existence of a man called Yeshua/Jesus.
http://www.everystudent.com/features/bible.html

You're basically using a circular argument here....lol

New testament writers are evidence of "jesus" existence as the author of Harry potter is evidence of hogwards'

And perhaps you don't know that early historians were mostly Christians for the first half of western development....

malvisguy212:
if you decided to reject the grace of God He bestows upon Jesus christ, it's your choice,either you believe or you reject, it's your freewill. Thank you for your time. Peace

I only rejected the message from devil in human skin.it is your own choice to remain in pagan belief.
How will I serve god that eat or sleep like I do.please go a way with your delusional belief.
Am ok with my belief.

Peace.

I strongly recommend this book- The case for christ by lee strobel. There are evidence outside the bible that emphatically speaks about jesus ressurection has facts. If you don't believe this,ask Christ 2 visit you.

davien:
You're basically using a circular argument here....lol

New testament writers are evidence of "jesus" existence as the author of Harry potter is evidence of hogwards'

And perhaps you don't know that early historians were mostly Christians for the first half of western development....

What is your definition of historicity?
Maybe that can make us understand you better or see you in a brighter light.

malvisguy212:
after 600 years, Allah send muhammed to say they crucified him not? All the Jews and christians who believe Jesus was crucified before the coming of muhammed, if they died, who gonna take the blame of their unbelief? Satan or Allah? Infacte Allah waited for soo long to send muhammed to contradicts the bible meaning All those who have been reading the bible before muhammed arrived if they died before muhammed came, they are going to hell? Isn't it strange to you that All the prophet are from isreal with the exception of muhammed?

Surah 29:27: And (as for Abraham), We
bestowed upon him Isaac and (Isaac’s
son) Jacob, and caused prophethood and
revelation to continue among his
offspring.

The prophethood are to come from the lineage of Isaac and Jacob. Muhammed is from the lineage of ishmael and ishmael had no covenant with the true God.with proved from this surah, muhammed is a false prophet.

Hmn story for the gods

davien:
You're basically using a circular argument here....lol

New testament writers are evidence of "jesus" existence as the author of Harry potter is evidence of hogwards'

And perhaps you don't know that early historians were mostly Christians for the first half of western development....

You are really a funny buddy. There were prophesies concerning Christ in the OT and the Jewish Talmud confirmed the life of Christ. Don't be deceived to think that the NT writers also wrote the Jewish Talmud.

You discredit the accounts of Peter, John, Paul, James and all other NT writers. You are also claiming early historians were mostly Christians in order to keep believing that Jesus never existed.

davien:
You're basically using a circular argument here....lol

New testament writers are evidence of "jesus" existence as the author of Harry potter is evidence of hogwards'

And perhaps you don't know that early historians were mostly Christians for the first half of western development....

Jesus lived what He preached. His
followers preached what He lived and then wrote it down. The new testament writer where not historian,they were
common men and excepting Paul,
Luke, and possibly Matthew . But does education or
high position guarantee honesty or
accuracy? Surly only GOD himself could've inspired this men to write this gospels.

Come to think of it. Jesus’ first-century enemies published nothing to deny the
resurrection ; True, why would they?Yes,
His body was missing and there
were disturbing resurrection rumors,
but why would His enemies publish
written accounts denying an event they claimed never happened?
No physical evidence for the resurrection: True, but what physical evidence should we expect? Religious and Roman authorities never produced Jesus’ body to quell growing resurrection rumors even though they had every motivation (and the manpower) to find Jesus’ body and put an end to these But they didn’t.you guys (atheists) always claimed to be interlingent, but have you guys ever ask this questions?

Unbias:

TOMB WAS GUARDED. Critics routinely dismiss Matthew’s story about the guards being bribed to say that they fell asleep, giving the disciples opportunity to steal the body (Matt. 28:11-15). But Matthew would have no reason to make up the story about the guards being bribed except to counter the story of the guards saying they fell asleep (see v. 15). Either way, the guards were there: the body had been in the tomb, the tomb had been guarded, and the body was no longer there.

Where is the picture of the tomb?

The truth is that those so-called wise and prudent theologians know absolutely nothing about the so-called resurrection simply because it never happened. Easter, or the celebration of the resurrection, is merely a tradition, a tradition that you have been taught from childhood, and coming into maturity you have accepted it because that is what you were taught. That is what you read bout. That is what your parents made you observed every Easter Sunday. Thus, you continued to go along with it and before you knew it, you had carelessly assumed what you now believe without question or proof. Easter is the feast of feasts celebrated in honor of the risen Christ. You have even reached the point where you will defend vigorously and emotionally your belief, a belief that can lead you straight to hell. It has become human nature to flow with the stream, and to go along with the crowd, to believe and perform like those around you. And, even when you stumble on the truth, you will not believe because like the majority of the people, you stubbornly refuse to believe what you are unwilling to believe. There is an old saying that says: He who is convinced against his will is of the same opinion still.

Horus:
The truth is that those so-called wise and prudent theologians know absolutely nothing about the so-called resurrection simply because it never happened. Easter, or the celebration of the resurrection, is merely a tradition, a tradition that you have been taught from childhood, and coming into maturity you have accepted it because that is what you were taught. That is what you read bout. That is what your parents made you observed every Easter Sunday. Thus, you continued to go along with it and before you knew it, you had carelessly assumed what you now believe without question or proof. Easter is the feast of feasts celebrated in honor of the risen Christ. You have even reached the point where you will defend vigorously and emotionally your belief, a belief that can lead you straight to hell. It has become human nature to flow with the stream, and to go along with the crowd, to believe and perform like those around you. And, even when you stumble on the truth, you will not believe because like the majority of the people, you stubbornly refuse to believe what you are unwilling to believe. There is an old saying that says: He who is convinced against his will is of the same opinion still.

Stop this 'parents thought you from childhood' trash. You have no idea of what led to my faith in Christ and how long I have been studying religion and why I think its more rational to believe in Christ than in an unknown cause or in Buddha.

Who even told you my parents were Christians or that I observed Easter as a child?

malvisguy212:
Jesus lived what He preached.

How did you know that?
If it's by reading and accepting claims that support your argument wouldn't the reverse be the case for people that accept the non-canon accounts of "jesus" being a deviant?

His
followers preached what He lived and then wrote it down. The new testament writer where not historian,they were
common men and excepting Paul,
Luke, and possibly Matthew .

But does education or
high position guarantee honesty or
accuracy? Surly only GOD himself could've inspired this men to write this gospels.

It's true, high position doesn't guarantee honesty.....that's why extraordinary claims by less honorable people are far less taken as credible...
Plus we don't just take things at face value by people of high position....evidence must also support it..

Come to think of it. Jesus’ first-century enemies published nothing to deny the
resurrection ; True, why would they?Yes,
His body was missing and there
were disturbing resurrection rumors,
but why would His enemies publish
written accounts denying an event they claimed never happened?

Ask yourself one thing....
Did ancient people refute their own myths?

An example is our yoruba myths, did any yoruba person at the time refute the myth? Adjustment not.

And because they didn't doesn't automatically make it true...

No physical evidence for the resurrection: True, but what physical evidence should we expect? Religious and Roman authorities never produced Jesus’ body to quell growing resurrection rumors even though they had every motivation (and the manpower) to find Jesus’ body and put an end to these But they didn’t.

lol.....
If nobody ever recorded a historical "jesus" not even listed the extraordinary events the character was involved in then what body do you expect them to look for?
Regardless of whether believers tagged an empty tomb as the characters resting place, it's as much an evidence as an empty vase of cookies means the cookie monster was responsible...

you guys (atheists) always claimed to be interlingent, but have you guys ever ask this questions?

Those aren't even questions to begin with, they are a confirmation bias that most Christians bring up to try to rationalize faith....

Unbias:


Stop this 'parents thought you from childhood' trash. You have no idea of what led to my faith in Christ and how long I have been studying religion and why I think its more rational to believe in Christ than in an unknown cause or in Buddha.

Who even told you my parents were Christians or that I observed Easter as a child?

My post was only for people who had Christians parents, so why did you answer my post if it was not your case?.
After all your rambling you still have not provided evidences of the existence the so-called resurrection.

Horus:


My post was only for people who had Christians parents, so why did you answer my post if it was not your case?.
After all your rambling you still have not provided evidences of the existence the so-called resurrection.

I have stopped debating people who are not open-minded: pretentious individuals with pre-conceived opinions. Educate yourself a little here http://www.everystudent.com/features/bible.html

Unbias:

I have stopped debating people who are not open-minded: pretentious individuals with pre-conceived opinions. Educate yourself a little here http://www.everystudent.com/features/bible.html

I never invited you to debate, I don't debate with brainwashed religious who promote the oppressor's religion and their spirit forces.
You are a mental slave helping the oppressor to keep Africans in the mental bondage of religion

I just pity these folks with their delusional thinking.
Jesus will surely denied them that he know them in the resurration day.

davien:
How did you know that?
If it's by reading and accepting claims that support your argument wouldn't the reverse be the case for people that accept the non-canon accounts of "jesus" being a deviant?





It's true, high position doesn't guarantee honesty.....that's why extraordinary claims by less honorable people are far less taken as credible...
Plus we don't just take things at face value by people of high position....evidence must also support it..

Ask yourself one thing....
Did ancient people refute their own myths?

An example is our yoruba myths, did any yoruba person at the time refute the myth? Adjustment not.

And because they didn't doesn't automatically make it true...
lol.....
If nobody ever recorded a historical "jesus" not even listed the extraordinary events the character was involved in then what body do you expect them to look for?
Regardless of whether believers tagged an empty tomb as the characters resting place, it's as much an evidence as an empty vase of cookies means the cookie monster was responsible...

Those aren't even questions to begin with, they are a confirmation bias that most Christians bring up to try to rationalize faith....

Les honourable men that make a scientific claimed, science do not confirmed until now.humans are created in the image of God ( Genesis 1:28–29), we are uniquely gifted to discover and utilize these universal ideas. The mind of God provides a framework for rational human thought (whether believer or nonbeliever). So when we use our minds, we are “thinking thy [God’s] thoughts after thee.”
The apostle John describes Jesus as “the
true light that enlightens every man” (John 1:9).

If the ressurection did not occurred, we wouldn't be discussing about it, in the days of the early church,there are more critics of the gospel then nowadays,this critics are determined to put an end of All the ressurection story, but why dint they do it if they believe is a false doctrine?
http://www.churchhistory101.com/century2.php
The Roman persecutes the early church and they killed peter and Paul,why? Because they preach about the ressurection,why dint they disprove the ressurection story?

kristisking:
You better do.But one more important decision to take is to embrace christianity where there is no bloodshed,no terrorism and you wii be at peace with the lord.Have you ever asked yourself why there is so much blood shed and wickedness in the other religion?It is found on falsehood,which cast a doubt on the genuiness of it existence.So embrace christ today and your life will never remain the same.God bless you.

Fo0l