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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Whyem15: 7:48am On Nov 25, 2021
Faithful007:
How ignorant of you. Policy is policy. Biden suspended the $23bn contract with UAE for four months, just for human rights violation investigations and to look into UAE's involvement in Yemen. What will you call that?

How so convenient that the biggest beneficiary of the deal was the investigator and eventually found no evidence of human rights abuses committed by Emiratis in Yemen.

And I guess the policy wasn't there when Saudi Arabia got there arms deal pushed through both Trump and Biden administration.
There is lip service and there is also lobbying which is perfectly legal in US. US defense industry does not spend $2.5 billion sponsoring and lobbying lawmakers for fun.
If it were a solid policy, the Nigerian Airforce will have zero A-29 super tucanos today, oh I guess they also investigated and found no evidence of human rights abuses.

"A legislative effort to stop the sales failed in December, as Trump's fellow Republicans in Congress backed his plans."

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/exclusive-biden-administration-proceeding-with-23-billion-weapon-sales-uae-2021-04-13/

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Roan77: 2:20pm On Nov 25, 2021
Faithful007:
Many civilians shot by police was in a standoff situation. How many unarmed people have been shot by police in Nigeria? How much of it is documented?


Yen yen yen.
Do you live in US to know how many unarmed citizens have been by the US cops?
So are you telling me George Floyd was armed, because he was killed right? Or a young man killed on a highway in his car, few months after the killing of Floyd was also armed, right?
How about a lady that was killed, because she was fighting a white girl, was she also armed?
They are countless of videos that shows how unarmed citizens were killed in US.
You are very ignorant, and just a mere critics, don't ever quote me again, I have nothing to do with you.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Roan77: 2:25pm On Nov 25, 2021
Most of you here crying and shouting human rights, human rights, even do worse in your respective lives, you brutalize your girlfriends, wives, siblings, and the people around you, but you will come to social media and start acting saint and be human rights activists, where as, na werey una be in real life.
Nonsense and ingredients. sad

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 2:38pm On Nov 25, 2021
Barely 15 pages back, same topic, similar replies accross the divide by the same monikers.

grin Girls

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Blueelf: 3:02pm On Nov 25, 2021
Whyem15:
We send young men to kill other people(criminals and terrorist) then abandon them later without taking care of them or monitoring how they cope with the mental stress of battle, when these young men eventually turn to drugs to cope with the mental tortures, we then funnily expect sane behaviors from them. In order to reduce military brutality of civilians, we need to be more deliberate on taking care of their mental health. This doesn't include those who right from the beginning see being in the military as an opportunity to brutalise others. But we can significantly reduce the cases by making sure soldiers don't stay too long in the frontlines and are well taken care of several years after returning from the frontlines. Maybe having a program to here they have to pass through immediately after being pulled from the frontlines to sort of 'deradicalize' them and ease them back to normal life.
We cannot continue to make monsters of men and expect them to be normal when they are no longer being used actively.


Suicide rate among ex US service men is among the highest in the world, they also have an abnormally high violent crimes rate, Nigerian soldiers are not immune to these consequences of war.

So are you supporting them

While we know more can be done for them, that doesn't mean they should turn their guns to civilians bro

2 wrongs don't make a right. Supporting brutality is not patriotism
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Lurker4Long: 3:26pm On Nov 25, 2021
Odunayaw:
Barely 15 pages back, same topic, similar replies accross the divide by the same monikers.

grin Girls

The fangirls "liking" and "replying" to themselves would make for an interesting undergraduate psychology essay!
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by GabrielYulaw(m): 3:46pm On Nov 25, 2021
Whyem15:


Nope, I'm not trying to prove that civilian brutality is not a "Nigerian army only thing", my point is that many of the soldiers we send to the front lines will require help coping with lives for the rest of their lives and it is the duty of the government to provide necessary health care to help them. Many of them have turned to drugs to cope with life which further deteriorates their mental health. The entire point of what I wrote was about better welfarism for troops and not why we should dismiss their brutal acts.
I added the crime and suicide rates of US soldiers and veterans because we have no such statistics here in Nigeria and it would have been sufficient to make my point.
At the end of the write up, I added that Nigerian soldiers are not immune to the consequences of war that US troops and veterans suffer to highlight that many of our own troops also suffer from PTSD and other mental health issues.


Decided to post this after having a discussion with a professional on the prevalence of the use of hard drugs among veterans and active personnel and many of the officers are also into hard drugs.
I'm uninterested in whitewashing the crimes of Nigerian soldiers as I would benefit nothing from it.

And yes, brutalizing civilians and being excessively violent are some of the consequences of mismanaged PTSD and many other mental health issues associated with warfare.

I am afraid that I do not agree with you about this bro. Those soldiers that flog people for wearing certain haircuts or clothes are you going to say they are suffering from PTSD or drug addiction?

Even common cadets have been interviewed on TV and have made known the fact that they are joining the armed forces for the sole purpose of showing hell to us bloody civilians. And we are talking about cadets that have yet to go to war o. Is it PTSD they are suffering from? That female cadet that was slapping the man that told her she was beautiful, you go tell me she just came back from Sambisa and was all shook up from the experience?

Hell, the Nigerian police force and SARS used to operate death camps all over the country where they cheerfully murdered thousands of innocents and dumped their bodies anywhere they wished. There are even allegations some of those murdered had their organs removed for sale. Are you going to tell me the Nigerian police and SARS were doing all this because they were suffering from the PTSD they acquired from battling Shekau?

Check out the USA. It has been at war with other countries for much of this and the other century. How many of its soldiers have been recorded oppressing and killing its own citizens without mercy in the streets? Can you even imagine a US veteran suffering from PTSD or whatever slapping a civilian and getting away with it? Can you?

The fact remains that the sole reason why the Nigerian armed forces and all armed institutions of the state kill and go as they wish is that they suffer zero consequences for their misdeeds. Amnesty International might wail and screech, but serious consequences seldom befalls these cold blooded murderers and that's why a soldier can shoot to kill at you for no reason at a checkpoint secure in the knowledge that nothing go happen. That's why policemen can look you in the eye and boldly say "I will kill you and nothing will happen".

Just recently, armed men killed a soldier in Imo. Did they chase after them? No! They went on rampage around the area killing and burning. Are you going to say it was PTSD that made the soldiers not chase after the armed men that killed one of them and instead decide to visit their wrath on those who are defenseless and had nothing to do with what happened?

So, please dead that PTSD and hard drug talk. It's nonsense. They kill us because they know we are unarmed and can't do anything and not because of any drug or PTSD. If we get gun them go fear us and stop all this nonsense.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Whyem15: 5:44pm On Nov 25, 2021
Whyem15:
We send young men to kill other people(criminals and terrorist) then abandon them later without taking care of them or monitoring how they cope with the mental stress of battle, when these young men eventually turn to drugs to cope with the mental tortures, we then funnily expect sane behaviors from them. In order to reduce military brutality of civilians, we need to be more deliberate on taking care of their mental health. This doesn't include those who right from the beginning see being in the military as an opportunity to brutalise others. But we can significantly reduce the cases by making sure soldiers don't stay too long in the frontlines and are well taken care of several years after returning from the frontlines. Maybe having a program to here they have to pass through immediately after being pulled from the frontlines to sort of 'deradicalize' them and ease them back to normal life.
We cannot continue to make monsters of men and expect them to be normal when they are no longer being used actively.


Suicide rate among ex US service men is among the highest in the world, they also have an abnormally high violent crimes rate, Nigerian soldiers are not immune to these consequences of war.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by upko: 6:16pm On Nov 25, 2021
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by dragon2(m): 7:39pm On Nov 25, 2021
Danish frigate kills four pirates in Gulf of Guinea
Written by Reuters -25th Nov 2021341

A Danish frigate has killed four pirates in waters south of Nigeria in an operation to protect shipping in the Gulf of Guinea, the Danish military said on Thursday.

The Esbern Snare, deployed last month to the Gulf of Guinea amid heightened security risks from pirates, on Wednesday spotted a fast-moving vessel carrying eight suspected pirates near a number of commercial ships, the Danish military said.

The incident took place in international waters, 25 to 30 nautical miles south of Nigeria’s territorial boundary, a spokesman said.

The motorboat, spotted by a helicopter deployed by the frigate, was carrying equipment associated with piracy, including ladders.

After the frigate fired warning shots, the pirates opened fire on Danish navy special forces, who in turn shot and killed four pirates and wounded one, the Danish military said in a statement.

The remaining four pirates were taken on board the frigate, and no Danish personnel were hurt in the incident, the military said.

It was the first time the frigate had opened fire during its current mission to the Gulf of Guinea, the spokesman said.

The Gulf of Guinea has been a piracy hot spot for years, but incidents have decreased since national authorities stepped up security efforts aided by foreign naval ships.

American, British, Italian, Spanish and Portuguese navies have also sent assistance, ships or training forces over the past year to tackle piracy after a record 130 sailors were taken from vessels in the region in 2020.

Piracy and armed robbery incidents dropped to 28 in the first nine months of 2021, compared with 46 in the same period in 2020, according to the International Maritime Bureau.

Separately, Denmark’s Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen and opposition lawmaker Jakob Elleman had both planned to visit the frigate during a visit to Ghana on Wednesday and Thursday.

They were not on board during the incident, which Frederiksen said was likely to have averted attacks on commercial ships in the gulf.

The frigate will operate in the region until April next year.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Faithful007: 10:51pm On Nov 25, 2021
Whyem15:


How so convenient that the biggest beneficiary of the deal was the investigator and eventually found no evidence of human rights abuses committed by Emiratis in Yemen.

And I guess the policy wasn't there when Saudi Arabia got there arms deal pushed through both Trump and Biden administration.
There is lip service and there is also lobbying which is perfectly legal in US. US defense industry does not spend $2.5 billion sponsoring and lobbying lawmakers for fun.
If it were a solid policy, the Nigerian Airforce will have zero A-29 super tucanos today, oh I guess they also investigated and found no evidence of human rights abuses.

"A legislative effort to stop the sales failed in December, as Trump's fellow Republicans in Congress backed his plans."

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/exclusive-biden-administration-proceeding-with-23-billion-weapon-sales-uae-2021-04-13/
If the executive government were to have their way, most of the deals will go through. Congress involves a lot more players who are more ordinary and biased in thinking. Also, some Saudi deals were blocked by Biden due to Khashoggi issues, I believe.

As for the A29s, there are two sides to it. One is the commitment to fight terrorism, second is human rights.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Sizzorkay: 11:04pm On Nov 25, 2021
Fire everywhere grin
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Litmus: 11:19pm On Nov 25, 2021
dragon2:
Danish frigate kills four pirates in Gulf of Guinea
Written by Reuters -25th Nov 2021341

A Danish frigate has killed four pirates in waters south of Nigeria in an operation to protect shipping in the Gulf of Guinea, the Danish military said on Thursday.

The Esbern Snare, deployed last month to the Gulf of Guinea amid heightened security risks from pirates, on Wednesday spotted a fast-moving vessel carrying eight suspected pirates near a number of commercial ships, the Danish military said.

The incident took place in international waters, 25 to 30 nautical miles south of Nigeria’s territorial boundary, a spokesman said.

The motorboat, spotted by a helicopter deployed by the frigate, was carrying equipment associated with piracy, including ladders.

After the frigate fired warning shots, the pirates opened fire on Danish navy special forces, who in turn shot and killed four pirates and wounded one, the Danish military said in a statement.

The remaining four pirates were taken on board the frigate, and no Danish personnel were hurt in the incident, the military said.

It was the first time the frigate had opened fire during its current mission to the Gulf of Guinea, the spokesman said.

The Gulf of Guinea has been a piracy hot spot for years, but incidents have decreased since national authorities stepped up security efforts aided by foreign naval ships.

American, British, Italian, Spanish and Portuguese navies have also sent assistance, ships or training forces over the past year to tackle piracy after a record 130 sailors were taken from vessels in the region in 2020.

Piracy and armed robbery incidents dropped to 28 in the first nine months of 2021, compared with 46 in the same period in 2020, according to the International Maritime Bureau.

Separately, Denmark’s Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen and opposition lawmaker Jakob Elleman had both planned to visit the frigate during a visit to Ghana on Wednesday and Thursday.

They were not on board during the incident, which Frederiksen said was likely to have averted attacks on commercial ships in the gulf.

The frigate will operate in the region until April next year.


Shouldn't Buhari invite the Danish High Commissioner in Nigeria for discussions?

Whether incident took place on international waters, if it was within sniffing distance of Nigeria's territorial water, we need to raise concerns; we don't want to be taken for granted. Inconsequential or not, as far as in international standings, we need to make Western nations tell us we’re inconsequential by kicking up a fuss. Let us be inconsequential disgracefully not politely….

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 5:42am On Nov 26, 2021
Litmus:



Shouldn't Buhari invite the Danish High Commissioner in Nigeria for discussions?

Whether incident took place on international waters, if it was within sniffing distance of Nigeria's territorial water, we need to raise concerns; we don't want to be taken for granted. Inconsequential or not, as far as in international standings, we need to make Western nations tell us we’re inconsequential by kicking up a fuss. Let us be inconsequential disgracefully not politely….
I think this a verdict on our navy, how well are they committed to the fight against piracy, how are their resources deployed?

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Valkrie: 8:36am On Nov 26, 2021
Inler77:

I think this a verdict on our navy, how well are they committed to the fight against piracy, how are their resources deployed?

The answer is simple and same as the answer you would get when you ask how well the Nigerian army is committed in fighting iswap, fulani marauders/bandits and Co....!! This is Nigeria...in crime of this nature you would sure see some ogas at the top feeding fat off it if you dig deep...!!

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by JOSCOFELIX: 9:38am On Nov 26, 2021
Iswap planning to attack three close by military formation at oncd one is there major target,attacking the rest two is to stop reinforcement.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Whyem15: 9:47am On Nov 26, 2021
JOSCOFELIX:
Iswap planning to attack three close by military formation at oncd one is there major target,attacking the rest two is to stop reinforcement.



Rather than wait till the time the attack will be carried out before deploying aircrafts for air support, the Airforce should scout out the location the terrorists are likely to attack for the gathering terrorist and destroy them. Even if it is one of the three terrorists groups they are able to destroy before the time of attack, it will significantly improve the chances of fending of the attacks in the remaining two locations.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by komekn(m): 10:13am On Nov 26, 2021
dragon2:
Danish frigate kills four pirates in Gulf of Guinea
Written by Reuters -25th Nov 2021341

A Danish frigate has killed four pirates in waters south of Nigeria in an operation to protect shipping in the Gulf of Guinea, the Danish military said on Thursday.

The Esbern Snare, deployed last month to the Gulf of Guinea amid heightened security risks from pirates, on Wednesday spotted a fast-moving vessel carrying eight suspected pirates near a number of commercial ships, the Danish military said.

The incident took place in international waters, 25 to 30 nautical miles south of Nigeria’s territorial boundary, a spokesman said.

The motorboat, spotted by a helicopter deployed by the frigate, was carrying equipment associated with piracy, including ladders.

After the frigate fired warning shots, the pirates opened fire on Danish navy special forces, who in turn shot and killed four pirates and wounded one, the Danish military said in a statement.

The remaining four pirates were taken on board the frigate, and no Danish personnel were hurt in the incident, the military said.

It was the first time the frigate had opened fire during its current mission to the Gulf of Guinea, the spokesman said.

The Gulf of Guinea has been a piracy hot spot for years, but incidents have decreased since national authorities stepped up security efforts aided by foreign naval ships.

American, British, Italian, Spanish and Portuguese navies have also sent assistance, ships or training forces over the past year to tackle piracy after a record 130 sailors were taken from vessels in the region in 2020.

Piracy and armed robbery incidents dropped to 28 in the first nine months of 2021, compared with 46 in the same period in 2020, according to the International Maritime Bureau.

Separately, Denmark’s Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen and opposition lawmaker Jakob Elleman had both planned to visit the frigate during a visit to Ghana on Wednesday and Thursday.

They were not on board during the incident, which Frederiksen said was likely to have averted attacks on commercial ships in the gulf.

The frigate will operate in the region until April next year.

There were quite a few misguides contributors here , who claimed piracy is on the decline. Some suggested that it was outside our territorial waters the engagement by the Russian Navy. Othersa said the international intervention force is just here for training, etc .

I even got called ignorant by some.

This year l had a quite a few things to do in the DELTA and from my estimation only about 30% of incidents are reportedly particularly at local level and not all incidents vwith international vessels are reported. Piracy is absolutely rife and booming in the area.

Reports from the ICC (see below) incidents recorded are up until March 2022 and we have already exceeded number of incidents in 2020.

But to some we are progressing and doing well.

Imagine the state of affairs if the international intervention force was not deployed in the Gulf of Guinea.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Whyem15: 10:30am On Nov 26, 2021
Reports from the ICC


The ICC International Maritime Bureau (IMB) has reported the lowest number of reported piracy and armed robbery incidents for the first nine months of any year since 1994.

IMB’s latest global piracy report recorded 97 incidents of piracy and armed robbery for the first nine months of 2021 – the lowest level of reported incidents since 1994. In 2021, IMB’s Piracy Reporting Centre (PRC) reported 85 vessels boarded, nine attempted attacks, two vessels fired upon and one vessel hijacked.

Reported incidents are down to their lowest level in decades, but violence against seafarers has continued with 51 crew kidnapped, eight taken hostage, five threatened, three injured, two assaulted and one killed, according to the latest IMB statistics.

While the reduction of reported incidents is a welcome, IMB PRC warns that seafarers must remain vigilant as violence against crew remains high in many areas of the world.

Decrease in Gulf of Guinea

The Gulf of Guinea region recorded 28 incidents of piracy and armed robbery in the first nine months of 2021, in comparison to 46 for the same period in 2020. Most notably, Nigeria only reported four incidents in the first nine months of 2021, in comparison to 17 in 2020 and 41 in 2018. Crew kidnappings in the region have dropped with only one crew member kidnapped in Q3 2021 , compared to 31 crew members taken in five separate incidents during Q3 2020. All Q3 incidents in 2021 were also against vessels at port anchorages whilst the average successful kidnapping location in Q3 2020 was approximately 100NM from land.

“We welcome the decrease of piracy and armed robbery attacks in the Gulf of Guinea and the efforts taken by maritime authorities in the region,” said Michael Howlett, Director, ICC International Maritime Bureau. “However, there needs to be sustained efforts to ensure the continued safety of seafarers as they transport essential goods throughout the region. Coastal States must redouble their coordination and security measures to ensure that piracy and armed robbery incidents continue to decline.”

The overall reduction of piracy and armed robbery incidents in the region is a testament to enhanced maritime security and response coordination measures adopted by regional and national authorities, according to IMB. Despite these gains, IMB warns that the risk to crew remains high in the region and that such efforts must therefore be sustained.


https://iccwbo.org/media-wall/news-speeches/piracy-and-armed-robbery-incidents-at-lowest-level-in-decades-but-imb-cautions-against-complacency/

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Toju200(m): 10:42am On Nov 26, 2021
Litmus:



Shouldn't Buhari invite the Danish High Commissioner in Nigeria for discussions?

Whether incident took place on international waters, if it was within sniffing distance of Nigeria's territorial water, we need to raise concerns; we don't want to be taken for granted. Inconsequential or not, as far as in international standings, we need to make Western nations tell us we’re inconsequential by kicking up a fuss. Let us be inconsequential disgracefully not politely….
Nigeria was already aware of Danish navy presence they announced like 4-5 months ago they'll deploy one of their warships to the gulf
Every nation within this region is aware and possibly they allow them operate within their waters.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Toju200(m): 10:43am On Nov 26, 2021
Whyem15:
Reports from ICC

@Komekn undecided

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Whyem15: 11:04am On Nov 26, 2021


All Q3 incidents in 2021 were also against vessels at port anchorages whilst the average successful kidnapping location in Q3 2020 was approximately 100NM from land.





https://iccwbo.org/media-wall/news-speeches/piracy-and-armed-robbery-incidents-at-lowest-level-in-decades-but-imb-cautions-against-complacency/


Let's discuss the highlited.



Maybe investing in more air assets and offshore naval outposts?, instructing ships to stay as close to the coast as it is safe for them. The pirates will not simply find other jobs to do, they will keep attempting to adapt to the new challenges, the relevant agencies must also keep improving.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by youghs: 11:56am On Nov 26, 2021
NAF SOF

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by DefenseHerald(m): 2:29pm On Nov 26, 2021
youghs:
NAF SOF
What AK modification is this?
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kemicalreact: 2:41pm On Nov 26, 2021
DefenseHerald:

What AK modification is this?
It's probably the Polish Beryl

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by youghs: 3:39pm On Nov 26, 2021
DefenseHerald:

What AK modification is this?

It's not an AK. Can't remember the name
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Stormtrooper11(m): 6:59pm On Nov 26, 2021
youghs:


It's not an AK. Can't remember the name

M762 beryl assault rifle

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Faithful007: 7:20pm On Nov 26, 2021
Nigeria declines Germany's offer to train police on handling protests.

https://allafrica.com/stories/202111260482.html
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 7:40pm On Nov 26, 2021
Faithful007:
Nigeria declines Germany's offer to train police on handling protests.

https://allafrica.com/stories/202111260482.html
If we are to retrain the NPF, I believe the first point of call won't be handling protests.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by GeneralFarouq: 7:47pm On Nov 26, 2021
Faithful007:
Nigeria declines Germany's offer to train police on handling protests.

https://allafrica.com/stories/202111260482.html
A good way to learn is to shut up, watch and or listen to experienced pple. This is what the army does, always willing to send it personnel for training it can do at home... but see the police doing ITK. There is basically no harm except to safegaurd their ego.
Also, did Germany specifically request for untrained recruits... We can send the already trained officers to learn additional skills who will then comeback and drill what was learnt into cadet and recruit alike... NPF ain't ready for transformation
But, before I shoot NPF, 30,000 police ain't a joke what does Germany stand to gain from this.
Let's not forget the EU -Belarus border crisis.

Secondly What does NPF mean by difference in societies... Do the mean citizens of Germany understand their right and thus must be treated with respect while handling protest... Where as Nigerians are helpless?. I don't understand this point, they need to expatiate.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Faithful007: 7:52pm On Nov 26, 2021
Inler77:

If we are to retrain the NPF, I believe the first point of call won't be handling protests.
Well, It should be IMO. Police are for the civilians and not insurgents.

I don't want to make any lengthy opinion on this, to avoid insults. But every nation that achieved admirable political progress had some level of assistance from others. Just like Germany, with Western assistance, has progressed to have a police structure that is very different from the Gestapo era. Nobody grows alone.

What is bad about training AT LEAST 30000 personnel on protest handling, that you just throw away because of pride? When you see you have a serious problem with handling protests!

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Faithful007: 8:04pm On Nov 26, 2021
GeneralFarouq:

A good way to learn is to shut up and listen to knowledgeable pple speak. This is what the army does, always willing to send it personnel for training it can do at home... but see the police doing ITK. There is basically no harm except to safegaurd their ego.
Also, did Germany specifically request for untrained recruits... We can send the already trained officers to learn additional skills who will then comeback and drill what was learnt into cadet and recruit alike... NPF ain't ready for transformation
But, before I shoot NPF, 30,000 police ain't a joke what does Germany stand to gain from this.
Let's not forget the EU -Belarus border crisis.
It was a free offer to support the Transformation agenda of the Nigerian Police. Sort of Bilateral assistance.

The problem here is that Nigerians seem to have a bloated view of themselves. And the world, especially the West, feels Nigeria is slipping into collapse but are not doing anything much to stem it. Nigeria's collapse will trigger so many things that will affect the West a lot.

Complex intractable multifaceted wars.
Humanitarian crisis like never before ( think of the population of Nigeria)
Serious refugee crisis (No neighboring country can hold Nigerians successfully)
Spike in terrorism
Oil and gas supply breakdown.

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