Reports that Germany has agreed to export the IRIS-T SLM short to medium range air defense system to Egyptian Armed Forces.

The Egyptian Air Defence has favoured purchasing major air defence systems from Russia over the past 20 or so years.

Egypt recently received a new batch of short to medium range air defence systems from Russia. The Buk and Tor.

It also continues to operate legacy American, French, and Soviet systems with similar roles.

The Egyptians continue with multi-sourcing.

barineh:


He's actually right. Our Air Force is in a very bad state. And instead of attending to issues like buying modern aircrafts we're busy commissioning gyms.

Please explain your bad state.... Before we go any further.

klhazhik:


On point...

You don't have any idea of what you are saying

Factional Boko Haram leader Mamman Nur killed by own fighters



https://www.dailytrust.com.ng/factional-boko-haram-leader-mamman-nur-killed-by-own-fighters.html

#Libya- along with some ridicules choreography and questionable exercises, this new LNA video on Special Intervention Force also shows decent equipment- molle plate carriers, helmets, knee/elbow pads (needed for that chicken wing...)

in case anyone was wondering- yes, this dude is cutting cucumbers off of peoples' necks with a sword while blindfolded.

#Libya- interesting launchers spotted during #Tripoli fighting (photos from pro-#GNA Tripoli Protection Force)
* PF-89
* M79 Osa
* RPG-26
* 9K111 Fagot/AT-4 Spigot
These are rarely seen deployed in Tripoli, indicating the scale and priority of the fighting.

#Libya- some more photos showing the magnitude of fighting in #Tripoli- Palmaria SPG (before&after shots...), destroyed vehicles and technical mounted with Type-63
multiple rocket launcher .

bidexiii:
Egypt recently received a new batch of short to medium range air defence systems from Russia. The Buk and Tor.

It also continues to operate legacy American, French, and Soviet systems with similar roles.

The Egyptians continue with multi-sourcing.

i think Egypt can rightly walk into any African country territory and stroll right out with little or no restrictions and resistance.

My brother if u were a babe i would have giving you a 1 week hug for your post. Please ignore all the insults you made Sense and the sense will last till kingdom gborodo...kudos a million for your post..It is Nigerians like you that we need a plenty to move this Nation forward

SLBM:
The list you provided justifies my point. It's not ignorance Oga Henry. You call re-eactivating two Bell Helicopters, maintaining C-130 aircraft, upgrading one UAV as part of the NAF question program? All the items listed can be sorted out with $500,000. I a, talking about the NIGERIAN AIR FORCEZ flying trainer aircrafts, a hand full of mediocre aircraft, zero interest in modernization en mass, zero intetest in air defense..all this despite a decade of war. C'mon is this the best Africa's wealthiest country and 5th biggest defense spender can do? Compare all the initiatives by the Air Force this year, compare that with the likes of our peers in economic power. Pulling a cotton ribbon ceremony for these projects is laughable. You realise this is 2018 not 1984. Thirty five years ago the nation could field a squadron of frontline high performance jets. Look at the Egyptian and South African Air Force. Neither of these countries have close to the resources available to this country. If its hard currency only Algeria beats us in Foreign Reserves. If its natural resources We are not in the same league. You realize this is Africa's first trillion dollar economy and the with 19th largest economy on earth with the 10th largest proven oil reserve whose value hovers around $4 trillion. Heck Lagos alone has Africa's 5th largest economy. You call me ignorant? We should all bow our head in shame rather than celebrate this mediocrcy.

Any word on the JF-17? negotiations and payment and renegotiation and part payment and an extra $1 billion in ars have been going on since 2014? Any idea when or if the THREE JF-17 will be delivered within the decade?

barineh:


He's actually right. Our Air Force is in a very bad state. And instead of attending to issues like buying modern aircrafts we're busy commissioning gyms.

MI-35M = Modern
Ch3A armed drones = Modern
Super Mushak trainers = Modern
Super Tucano = Modern
Beechcraft ISR = Modern
Yahbon flash 20 YAV = Modern
NAF Regiment = Modern
Personnel welfare = Modern

What isn't modern in the programme the NAF has carried out in the past 5 years, can you kindly point it out?

SLBM:


Of what use is spending millions on pilot welfare and putting them in an aircraft that will not survive in a contested environment, that's if it doesn't crash.

Is Nigeria's air space contested?

Chad can keep our Airforce grounded if hostilities happen today

Henry240:

Is Nigeria's air space contested?

SLBM:


Of what use is spending millions on pilot welfare and putting them in an aircraft that will not survive in a contested environment, that's if it doesn't crash.

What contested environment?

SLBM:
Well then..maybe it's just me. I might be wrong..but you don't see anything wrong with the air force? L-29 trainers, Alpha jet trainers, F-7N fighters numbering between 6 and 8, that's 13 years since 2005 when the F-7N was acquired as a stop-gap measure, to plug the capability gap, a gap that was recognized as far back as 2005 when the security situation was not as bad as it is today.

Let me dumb it down for you Sir, NAF is building human capacity FIRST (better late than never)


Meanwhile,since you have a lot of spare time you can visit NAF's Twitter page to "enlighten them".

kenpaul0:
Chad can keep our Airforce grounded if hostilities happen today

How? Don't dare bring they have this or that. I wanted an educated discourse

SLBM:
The list you provided justifies my point. It's not ignorance Oga Henry. You call re-eactivating two Bell Helicopters, maintaining C-130 aircraft, upgrading one UAV as part of the NAF question program? All the items listed can be sorted out with $500,000. I a, talking about the NIGERIAN AIR FORCEZ flying trainer aircrafts, a hand full of mediocre aircraft, zero interest in modernization en mass, zero intetest in air defense..all this despite a decade of war. C'mon is this the best Africa's wealthiest country and 5th biggest defense spender can do? Compare all the initiatives by the Air Force this year, compare that with the likes of our peers in economic power. Pulling a cotton ribbon ceremony for these projects is laughable. You realise this is 2018 not 1984. Thirty five years ago the nation could field a squadron of frontline high performance jets. Look at the Egyptian and South African Air Force. Neither of these countries have close to the resources available to this country. If its hard currency only Algeria beats us in Foreign Reserves. If its natural resources We are not in the same league. You realize this is Africa's first trillion dollar economy and the with 19th largest economy on earth with the 10th largest proven oil reserve whose value hovers around $4 trillion. Heck Lagos alone has Africa's 5th largest economy. You call me ignorant? We should all bow our head in shame rather than celebrate this mediocrcy.

Any word on the JF-17? negotiations and payment and renegotiation and part payment and an extra $1 billion in ars have been going on since 2014? Any idea when or if the THREE JF-17 will be delivered within the decade?

I'm not insulting you, but you comment spews of Ignorance.

What's Nigeria's defence budget?

How much of that budget is re-current expenditure?

How much is left for capital expenditure?

The Nigerian Air Force in 2017 flew over 5623 missions in support of Nigeria's COIN operations, what was the operational cost of carrying out all that mission in 2017?

You're spewing lots of emotions, no facts to back up anything.

You post photos of Algeria and Egypt, do you know how much Algeria spends on defence? 10 billion dollars.

Egypt spends 4 billion dollars, 1.3 billion in US aide not included, aid from the likes of Saudi Arabia not also included?

In Uganda, you shared a photo of their SU-30, Ugandan pilots routinely bolt, go AWOL.

Eritrean SU-27, 3rd hand aircrafts the Eritearans purchased.

All of Chad's "1" MIG-29 have practically never flown.

Zambia flying unmanned UAVs, really?

Dude, you need to research more before going on a social media meltdown.

kenpaul0:
Chad can keep our Airforce grounded if hostilities happen today

Oga with what?

Some of you guys need to learn how to carry out basic research.


https://warisboring.com/american-rushes-to-help-after-a-storm-nearly-wipes-out-the-chadian-air-force

kenpaul0:
Chad can keep our Airforce grounded if hostilities happen today

You just displayed your high level of ignorance.

With what assets will the Chad airforce keep our airforce grounded...


Witness 1 grounded MIG29 and mostly grounded & dedtroyed SU25 yet to be air worthy



http://earth-chronicles.com/natural-catastrophe/part-of-the-chad-air-force-is-destroyed-by-a-powerful-hurricane.html

barineh:


He's actually right. Our Air Force is in a very bad state. And instead of attending to issues like buying modern aircrafts we're busy commissioning gyms.

If the Army had the kind of welfare NAF has maybe we would have been done with this insurgency earlier


No one here can deny we aren't lacking some important materiel but its an infantile argument questioning what the NAF is doing

krattoss:
i think Egypt can rightly walk into any African country territory and stroll right out with little or no restrictions and resistance.

Germany thought the same during Barbarossa & we all know - sorry, those that seek knowledge know how it went

Henry240:

Oga with what?

Some of you guys need to learn how to carry out basic research.


https://warisboring.com/american-rushes-to-help-after-a-storm-nearly-wipes-out-the-chadian-air-force

Normally I would have just let their puerile ramblings but we mustn't watch ignorance fester

The Nigerian Air Force is not fantastic, but with the meagre reasources available to the service every non-partisan fellow can see the Nigerian Air Force has done well.


A dog will give birth to a dog. I have never seen where a dog reproduced a lion.

You get what you pay for. It's not magic.

Henry240:

MI-35M = Modern
Ch3A armed drones = Modern
Super Mushak trainers = Modern
Super Tucano = Modern
Beechcraft ISR = Modern
Yahbon flash 20 YAV = Modern
NAF Regiment = Modern
Personnel welfare = Modern

What isn't modern in the programme the NAF has carried out in the past 5 years, can you kindly point it out?

Still no 4th generation Aircraft. Can you say with confidence that NAF can help protect Nigeria from any foreign aggression.

Odunayaw:
Normally I would have just let their puerile ramblings but we mustn't watch ignorance fester

For real!

Nobody is saying the Air Force is great, i mean i want to see SU-35S and MIG-35s in NAF's colours, but we need to face reality.

Henry240:

I'm not insulting you, but you comment spews of Ignorance.

What's Nigeria's defence budget?

How much of that budget is re-current expenditure?

How much is left for capital expenditure?

The Nigerian Air Force in 2017 flew over 5623 missions in support of Nigeria's COIN operations, what was the operational cost of carrying out all that mission in 2017?

You're spewing lots of emotions, no facts to back up anything.

You post photos of Algeria and Egypt, do you know how much Algeria spends on defence? 10 billion dollars.

Egypt spends 4 billion dollars, 1.3 billion in US aide not included, aid from the likes of Saudi Arabia not also included?

In Uganda, you shared a photo of their SU-30, Ugandan pilots routinely bolt, go AWOL.

Eritrean SU-27, 3rd hand aircrafts the Eritearans purchased.

All of Chad's "1" MIG-29 have practically never flown.

Zambia flying unmanned UAVs, really?

Dude, you need to research more before going on a social media meltdown.

defense budget is small but you could spend $600+mln on a propeller craft

barineh:


He's actually right. Our Air Force is in a very bad state. And instead of attending to issues like buying modern aircrafts we're busy commissioning gyms.

Bro, the Nigerian Air Force is in a better state than it ever was in the past few decades.
The gym you are complaining about keeps personnel fit amongst other things.
In case it didn’t cross your mind, the development of human fitness & capability is essential to flying the “modern aircrafts" you so much want–
you can’t underestimate the need for physical fitness, so if you do not have fit, well trained, well catered for personnel who is going to fly your modern aircrafts?
Would you rather have an overweight pilot getting into a fighter cockpit to fly and then the environment becomes uncomfortable, develops some kind of ailment or sickness while flying…..abi you think say na to drive 504 or gongoro?
Would you rather have an unfit & obese personnel finding it difficult to move around ground equipment?
Would you rather have an unfit personnel handling weapons?
We can go on and on talking about the benefits of having a “gym”

If you do not know, you just don’t acquire modern or any planes for that matter and for the sake of it without the needed support (human, structural etc), otherwise the planes will be grounded.
Personnel welfare is just one key aspect to getting better results – the happier & fitter the personnel around his equipment, the better the results will be - its common sense and practice.

And for those complaining about some stuff they see the NAF commissioning which are not “modern aircrafts”, FYI they are needed to support the entire system and be self-reliant, and for the guy talking about sewing machine factory, sorry to disappoint you, the NAF has a sewing factory for uniforms etc (fantastic idea…for those who know)

I see a lot of ignorant comments on this thread, but hey…..everyman to his own, whatever floats your boat, but it helps to ask questions and think deeper.

We just don’t criticize without understanding some underlying facts – do not let emotions overcloud your judgement.

As stated earlier, the NAF is in a better state than it was decades ago and hopefully gets better equipped, well trained, with fitter personnel to handle “modern aircrafts”

Have a good day and support our Armed Forces

giles14:
defense budget is small but you could spend $600+mln on a propeller craft

You should know better. You've been keen on saying the super tucsno is a propeller aircraft and it goes beyond that.

The tucsno is what we need to prosecute these COIN in the North East. You have to go and read about the aircraft.

The A-29 Super Tucano is an aircraft that the U.S. Air Force paid to develop precisely for partner countries that needed air support for their counter terrorism operations. The super tucano has wing-mounted machine guns, weapons integration with advanced surveillance and targeting pods, precision-guided bombs, and even air-to-air missiles.

This makes it an excellent territorial defense and close support plane for low-budget air forces, as well as a surveillance asset with armed attack capability. The Brazilian Airforce uses it this way. for instance; alongside very advanced EMB-145 airborne radar and maritime patrol jet platforms..etc

The super tucano as is own distinct capabilities- to carry it's own ISR and strike capabilities, which these 4th gen Jets wouldn't offer plus cost & maintenance.

I think should do a little more research on the super tucano and NAF super tucano's contract. The whole $600M is not only for the 12 aircrafts alone, it comes with a whole lot of packages.

giles14:
defense budget is small but you could spend $600+mln on a propeller craft

But that’s not part of the defense budget.

Henry240:

Is Nigeria's air space contested?

Notice how the troll did not answer the question? but went on to pivot about contested airspace.
Let us ask him again
What is not modern about Nigeria's recent purchases?

giles14:
defense budget is small but you could spend $600+mln on a propeller craft

Err Nigeria did not spend $600+ on a propeller Aircraft.
The invoices from the US department of defense state that it was less than $500Million can we try to stay with the facts.