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Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: FUNAAB VS IBADAN POLY. WINNER: IBADAN POLY. by Ayima: 11:14pm On May 30, 2015
The fact remains that our educational system is in the state of quagmire and doldrums, i strongly believe there's a lacuna in our educational system that need to be filled by the architectures of our system. Although there's a bit of symmetry in post utme than Utme, i prefer only Universities entrance exams to Utme.
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: FUNAAB VS IBADAN POLY. WINNER: IBADAN POLY. by Nunushokoto(m): 11:15pm On May 30, 2015
5ky3:



I think you can now understand what I mean
It still does not make post utme exam a bad idea.
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: FUNAAB VS IBADAN POLY. WINNER: IBADAN POLY. by Champion01(m): 11:16pm On May 30, 2015
Boc4real:
Unilag, funaab, Aaua, lasu, The list is long even OAU
Oops! Can u provide an evidence/prove for this?
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: FUNAAB VS IBADAN POLY. WINNER: IBADAN POLY. by Nobody: 11:17pm On May 30, 2015
Post utme must/must'nt be scrapped!!
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: FUNAAB VS IBADAN POLY. WINNER: IBADAN POLY. by Nobody: 11:19pm On May 30, 2015
Champion01:
Oops! Can u provide an evidence/prove for this?
Lol... Evidence /prove... There's
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: FUNAAB VS IBADAN POLY. WINNER: IBADAN POLY. by Miscellaneous(m): 11:23pm On May 30, 2015
Debate is now officially ended.
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: FUNAAB VS IBADAN POLY. WINNER: IBADAN POLY. by sammyscholar(m): 11:23pm On May 30, 2015
Miscellaneous:
Sammyscholar and Darrytoz please answer Ayima
we have given answer to the question sir. He must have seen it.

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Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: FUNAAB VS IBADAN POLY. WINNER: IBADAN POLY. by Kdamilola(m): 11:23pm On May 30, 2015
From an audience;

Babcock university shouldn't have allowed those candidates that didn't meet the required UTME cut off mark to sit for the Post utme in the first place... Sometimes, a failure like Babcock (in that aspect) can make a system look like failing.
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: FUNAAB VS IBADAN POLY. WINNER: IBADAN POLY. by darrytoz(m): 11:24pm On May 30, 2015
On a final note, post UTME should be discontinued in Nigerian tertiary institutions. The exam has course more unorganized educational system in the process of selecting the best perspectives to our various institutions. Thank you.
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: FUNAAB VS IBADAN POLY. WINNER: IBADAN POLY. by Ayima: 11:25pm On May 30, 2015
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Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: FUNAAB VS IBADAN POLY. WINNER: IBADAN POLY. by 5ky3(m): 11:27pm On May 30, 2015
Nunushokoto:
It still does not make post utme exam a bad idea.


Bro.. Not saying its a bad idea .. Am just giving some independent views .. And to take side.. I think its a very good idea.. Post utme. Should not be discontinued ..
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: FUNAAB VS IBADAN POLY. WINNER: IBADAN POLY. by Champion01(m): 11:29pm On May 30, 2015
Waiting for one.
Boc4real:
Lol... Evidence /prove... There's
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: FUNAAB VS IBADAN POLY. WINNER: IBADAN POLY. by CharliParker: 11:29pm On May 30, 2015
Very good points from the proposals
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: FUNAAB VS IBADAN POLY. WINNER: IBADAN POLY. by Miscellaneous(m): 11:30pm On May 30, 2015
To be most fair and not to hurry thinqs up, the judges have decided to score debaters tomorrow.

If by any means any debater or member of the audience had high expectations of seeing result this night, we apologise. Needless to repeat, it is for the purpose to give the best judgement.
Thanks.
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: FUNAAB VS IBADAN POLY. WINNER: IBADAN POLY. by 5ky3(m): 11:34pm On May 30, 2015
Its fun reading and following a thread that is not derailed in any part.. Just wanna say .. A big thank you to the supporting and opposing party.. Its been cool reading your smooth usage of words
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: FUNAAB VS IBADAN POLY. WINNER: IBADAN POLY. by Nobody: 11:38pm On May 30, 2015
Champion01:
Waiting for one.
Your wait go long fah!...
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: FUNAAB VS IBADAN POLY. WINNER: IBADAN POLY. by Fathai(m): 11:39pm On May 30, 2015
i think i need to contribute now


post utme should stay but there should be a body that will over see how student is been admitted in our university and polytecnic e.t.c. for example i know of someone who did jamb 3 times. respectively, he scored 216, 246, and 160......but with the score of 160, he was admitted to a notable polytechnic. In conclusion, i will support the countinuation of post utme but post utme seriously need reform in so many schools in nigeria.

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Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: FUNAAB VS IBADAN POLY. WINNER: IBADAN POLY. by fattbabakay(m): 11:47pm On May 30, 2015
sammyscholar:
SCHOOL: The Polytechnic, Ibadan.
NAME: Sammyscholar
TOPIC: Should Post UTME examinations be conducted in Nigerian Universities?
STANCE: Opposing

Nigerian tertiary institutions, today, remained the most stressful, rigorous, and most tortures to gain admission into. Yet, they are no where to be found in the ranking of the best tertiary institutions in the world. Students do three different examinations - SSCE, UTME, Post UTME, (and interview in some schools) before being admitted into college; use minimum of four years in the college for a degree program (as opposed to three years obtained in other countries), yet, some of our graduates find it hard to cope with their counterparts from other colleges in the world. Why the misplacement of priority? Why focusing more on conduction plethora of examinations instead of providing quality, contemporary, and corrupt free education for students? Of what purpose are three entrance examinations when one or, at most, two is enough to assess the eligibility of students?

As obtained all over the world, school leaving examination is mandatory for all secondary school leaving students and it is the only certificate required for admission into college. In the case of Nigeria, candidates are further assessed by the Joint Admission and Matriculation Board (JAMB) through its Unified Tertiary Matriculation Examination (UTME) to ascertain their eligibility. There after, successful candidates (who met JAMB’s cut-off mark) are sent to their respective institutions of choice for admission. But, unfortunately, instead of a mere cross-check of aspirants' credentials to verify if they meet (and have) the necessary requirements for their desired courses, and giving them admission accordingly; they are further subjected to another hurdle, that is, Post UTME. And that is the crux of today's debate. Is post UTME necessary? Is it needed after all what students have been made to go through? No, it is not!

For the sake of those who are not acquainted with the Nigerian education system and who are following this intellectual discourse, post UTME is another examination done by candidates in their respective institutions of choice after going through the hurdle and hassle of SSCE and JAMB UTME.

Before I plunge more into details, it is crucial that nobility be accorded to whom it dues. And to this end, I say: good day to the grand commander of this platform - Mr Seun Osewa, the learned coordinators, relentless and meticulous judges, fellow wit and intelligent debaters, and the following spectators. My name is Sammyscholar, representing The Polytechnic Ibadan. I am standing to stage reasons why post UTME should not be conducted in Nigerian Universities, Polytechnics, and colleges of education.

Prior to the emergence of JAMB in 1978, all tertiary institutions in Nigeria were given autonomy to conduct entrance examination and admit students on their own. But along the line, it was discovered that the process was characterized by nepotism, favoritism, and all sorts of shortcomings which, invariably, led to educational disparity and inequality. So to address and ameliorate the unbecoming trend, and to ensure that all aspirants have a level playing ground and are admitted base on merit; JAMB was created and was saddled with the responsibility of conducting entrance examination for candidates into all tertiary institutions in the country. Candidates do not need to sit for any other exams after jamb - successful candidates are given automatic admission into their respective institutions of choice.

Surprisingly, in 2005, the long forgotten examination (which, then, was generally known to be unfeasible) was re-awakened again and was re-named to be post UTME. Some of the reasons clamored were: JAMB is no longer dependable! JAMB scores are bogus! UTME is full of malpractices! The crops of students admitted into our tertiary institutions are not sound so they need to be further assessed by the schools themselves! Our education is falling! We need to up the number of our entrance examinations!

Although, undoubtedly, our education system is degrading; but is re-introducing post UTME the way forward? Is it a well thought out policy/action? JAMB is not dependable they say; yet, no school would admit candidates who did not meet JAMB's cut-off mark even though they pass their post UTME. Just in 2013, BABCOCK UNIVERSITY asked candidates whose names appear on its admission list but failed to meet JAMB's requirement not to bother paying the university's acceptance fee. Some schools even go the extreme of increasing the cut-off mark that must be met by their aspirants to 250, 270, and even 280 as against JAMB's initial 180. And you say JAMB scores are bogus? For some schools to get their candidates' admission/aggregate score, they add JAMB score with post UTME score and then divide by "x"; yet, they say post UTME was re-introduced to fill the loopholes in JAMB when JAMB still, to large extent, influences students' aggregate scores.

While some candidates have wasted money on Post UTME and have been denied admission repeatedly [even when they meet all requirements] due to nepotism in favor of wards of some wealthy parents, some have lost their lives to road accidents while going to and fro for the examination. Post UTME has done nothing, whatsoever, to improve our education system; It has rather been successful in creating avenue for our tertiary institution to milk innocent candidates. They say Post UTME would salvage our education system from it current shambles, yet, nothing has fared better since its introduction in 2005.

News abounds of how Nigerian students schooling abroad are making ground breaking successes. If it is not in an American university today, it would be UK’s tomorrow. Of most recent is the news of a Nigerian student who broke the jinx of 50 years in a Japan University - he made first class. Most of them had their basic and secondary education in Nigeria and were admitted into these foreign universities "only" with their school leaving certificate - WAEC. They were never subjected to massive entrance examination before being admitted like we do in Nigeria, yet, they perform well.

What we can learn, and we should learn, is that it is not about conducting massive entrance examination; it is not about subjecting students to stress and hurdles before being admitted. It is about re-structuring our education system - from primary to tertiary level. Government should provide state-of-the-facilities for all schools and should ensure that all schools are conducive and enabling for students' learning. All instructors - teacher and lectures - should be re-oriented. They need to understand that their actions and inactions, to a great extent, have an enduring effect on the success and otherwise of students. They need to begin to teach/lecture with passion and should, at all times, be attentive to the plight of their students. With all these, I believe our education system would change for good.

Conclusively, the right way to getting the best out of students is not by subjecting them to massive examination; it is about providing an enabling academic environment where students can learn with comfort, passion, and with pride. Thank you.

REFERENCES:
1) http://.com/list-of-nigerian-universities-and-their-post-utme-dates-here/
2) http://mypastquestion.com/post-utme-dates-for-various-universities/
3) http://www.webpages.uidaho.edu/~mbolin/busayo.htm
4) http://www.ajol.info/index.php/jorind/article/view/66792
5) Oxford dictionary
Nice argument.
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: FUNAAB VS IBADAN POLY. WINNER: IBADAN POLY. by fattbabakay(m): 11:50pm On May 30, 2015
Nunushokoto:

SCHOOL: FUNAAB

     Post utme is an examination written by student aspiring to gain admission into higher institution. It is used as a means of screening candidates and to know those that are really deserving of admission. Over the years it has been discovered that people raise up the motion that post utme examination should be scrapped out of the admission process because they believe that its a very difficult hurdle to cross. I disagree with those group of people because i believe that it is a very good way of knowing those who are capable of coping with the system of the schools academic activities. I am of the motion that post utme examination should not be scrapped out for this reason.
       Like my co-debater have said,last year, a female candidate applied to study economics
in University of Ibadan (UI) with excellent results in
School Certificate Examination and Joint Admission
Matriculation Board (JAMB)’s examination. Specifically,
the female potential student of Economics paraded eight
distinctions (A1) in eight subjects at the school certificate
level and 284 marks in JAMB conducted examination –
Fantastic results combination that attracted UI to invite
her for “interaction”, UI’s model of Post University
Matriculation Examination (UME) test. At the post UME
interaction, the panel members were so “impressed” with
her supposed results, that they had almost asked her to
take a bow and go until someone from the panel,
probably out of curiosity, posted a simple question to her.
Young lady, with your results, you are definitely going to
lead the class, but before you go, as a prospective
economics student, what is GDP? Dazed. The lady began
to fidget, scratching her head as she started sweating.
Initially, some of the panel members thought she was
intimidated by the presence of some professors, thereby,
giving her time to relax. But, alas, the candidate bungled
as she later confessed that someone wrote the exams for
her. In other words, the results were not hers. However,
this mumbo-jumbo was only uncovered at the post UME
interaction!
      If that was a ludicrous case in the faculty of the Social Sciences, a similar mendacious situation occurred during the Post-UME test in the Faculty of Arts, in which a candidate with equally considered “good results” who wanted to study English could not spell “island, tomorrow
and occasion.” Yet, this was a candidate with distinctions
and 275 marks in JAMB’s examination. These two cases
are just illustrations of the beauty of post-UME
interaction, an integrity check in the university
admission process.
With these kinds of experiences during the post-UME
interaction year in, year out. One is therefore left curious
and confused when Hon. Samson Positive from Kogi state
sponsored a motion recently, that the federal Ministry of
Education and the National Universities Commission
(NUC) cancel the so-called post-UME. His argument was
that post-UME test was an additional
burden to the students seeking admission into the
universities, more so, many parents could not afford the
cost. He further posited that many universities were
using Post- UME test to generate money, thereby extorting
prospective students.
Unfortunately, the lawmaker did not tell the nation how
he came about this ridiculous conclusion from his wrong
assumptions. He did not tell his colleagues how many
universities he visited in the course of his research and
how many parents complained about the cost as well as
how he measured the burdensomeness constituted by the
conduct of the post-UME to student seeking university
admission.
Indeed, a wrong problem diagnosis will always lead to a
wrong prescription. It is stating the obvious to say that
the motion;, which was more impetuous than methodical
has been generating a serious concern among the
stakeholders because it is fraud tendentious. Without any
fear of contradiction, one can authoritatively assert that
many of the “fantastic results” being paraded by some of
the admission seekers are phony. Some of these results
from WAEC, NECO and JAMB are, to say the least, the
voice of Jacob and the hand of Esau: It is only during the
post-UME interaction (at least, as far as I know, in UI)
that the buried truth resurrects.
That WAEC, NECO and JAMB results need further scrutiny
is not in doubt. The Vice-Chancellor of the University of
Ibadan, Prof. Olufemi Bamiro while kicking against
cancellation of Post-UME disclosed e I personally
participated in the supervision of the last UTME in Ibadan.
Several candidates were caught with mobile telephone sets
containing answers to the JAMB examination questions
and JAMB itself had to withhold the results of thousand of
candidates for reasons not far. Removed from examination
malpractice in one form or the other. ” Prof. Bamiro
further said, there is no gain saying the fact that for every
candidate caught, these are most likely several others who
have escaped with unmerited marks, yet, these are the
candidates who will be right in front for admission . As a
matter of fact, this is what informed the need for post-
UME.
What is Post-UME? Post – UME, to use the UI model as an
example, is a kind of interaction based on information
elicitation technique with a view to authenticating the
claims of the candidate’s academic profile. In UI’s post-
UME.interaction model, candidates are not made to sit
for another set of examination. Rather, it is an
interaction of less than 20 minutes during which
candidates are orally asked a few questions relating to
their proposed fields of study. For example, a candidate
who wants to study Economics is asked to say something
about GDP, IMF or Bank reform. Where is the burden in
this? UI’s post-UME model is so transparent that every
candidate knows his fate immediately. If you can not
answer three questions correctly from five, who will offer
you admission?
However, when people are now calling for the
cancellation of this type of quality assurance mechanism,
as a result of ignorance or less informed scholastic
research into the matter, it is apparent that there is
hollowness in the advocacy. If universities will not
become breeding grounds for ill-baked, sophomoric and
dilettantish graduates, then, post UME test must remain to
be part of our admission process criteria
Since its introduction in UI four years ago, the percentage
of withdrawal level has reduced drastically. In fact, post-
UME test has a correlation with the general good
performance at the under graduate level. Between year
2000 and 2008, the average first-class graduates we have
is 63, but last year, (2009) being the year of the first set of
post-UME candidates, we have 99 students graduating
with first class. Isn’t that impressive? Cancellation of
post-UME test cannot do us any good!
National Assembly should not be seen as invalidating
misnomer. It breeds intellectual irritation when people
legislate without data. As a matter of fact, legislating
without data is like embarking on a journey without road
map. National Assembly must not make a shipwreck of
this brilliant idea of post-UME test because this motion
Nice tempo

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Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: FUNAAB VS IBADAN POLY. WINNER: IBADAN POLY. by fattbabakay(m): 11:50pm On May 30, 2015
Amazing pace of thread though....Quite impressed.
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: FUNAAB VS IBADAN POLY. WINNER: IBADAN POLY. by jaydee87(m): 11:50pm On May 30, 2015
few days ago I read a post criticizing the youth of being lazy
and I knew the op was wrong seeing this now proves it
fact gathering is not lazy...
tell them we are not lazy but we just need little push...
good argument from both parties won't take sides cos both parties really pointed why they opposed or supported the motion... either way may the judge have the final say...
kudos guys
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: FUNAAB VS IBADAN POLY. WINNER: IBADAN POLY. by sonnie10: 11:57pm On May 30, 2015
I am neither for nor against any of the schools but an independent observer. I have observed that those who added References in the write-ups did not tell us exactly the part they are referring to, in other words there are no IN TEXT CITATIONS. It is like sending your readers on a wild geese chase. If you must include References, do us a favor by telling us what we should be looking for. IN TEXT CITATION would make life a little easy for the judges and as well as give credence to your argument.





sammyscholar:
SCHOOL: The Polytechnic, Ibadan.
NAME: Sammyscholar
TOPIC: Should Post UTME examinations be conducted in Nigerian Universities?
STANCE: Opposing

Nigerian tertiary institutions, today, remained the most stressful, rigorous, and most tortures to gain admission into. Yet, they are no where to be found in the ranking of the best tertiary institutions in the world. Students do three different examinations - SSCE, UTME, Post UTME, (and interview in some schools) before being admitted into college; use minimum of four years in the college for a degree program (as opposed to three years obtained in other countries), yet, some of our graduates find it hard to cope with their counterparts from other colleges in the world. Why the misplacement of priority? Why focusing more on conduction plethora of examinations instead of providing quality, contemporary, and corrupt free education for students? Of what purpose are three entrance examinations when one or, at most, two is enough to assess the eligibility of students?

As obtained all over the world, school leaving examination is mandatory for all secondary school leaving students and it is the only certificate required for admission into college. In the case of Nigeria, candidates are further assessed by the Joint Admission and Matriculation Board (JAMB) through its Unified Tertiary Matriculation Examination (UTME) to ascertain their eligibility. There after, successful candidates (who met JAMB’s cut-off mark) are sent to their respective institutions of choice for admission. But, unfortunately, instead of a mere cross-check of aspirants' credentials to verify if they meet (and have) the necessary requirements for their desired courses, and giving them admission accordingly; they are further subjected to another hurdle, that is, Post UTME. And that is the crux of today's debate. Is post UTME necessary? Is it needed after all what students have been made to go through? No, it is not!

For the sake of those who are not acquainted with the Nigerian education system and who are following this intellectual discourse, post UTME is another examination done by candidates in their respective institutions of choice after going through the hurdle and hassle of SSCE and JAMB UTME.

Before I plunge more into details, it is crucial that nobility be accorded to whom it dues. And to this end, I say: good day to the grand commander of this platform - Mr Seun Osewa, the learned coordinators, relentless and meticulous judges, fellow wit and intelligent debaters, and the following spectators. My name is Sammyscholar, representing The Polytechnic Ibadan. I am standing to stage reasons why post UTME should not be conducted in Nigerian Universities, Polytechnics, and colleges of education.

Prior to the emergence of JAMB in 1978, all tertiary institutions in Nigeria were given autonomy to conduct entrance examination and admit students on their own. But along the line, it was discovered that the process was characterized by nepotism, favoritism, and all sorts of shortcomings which, invariably, led to educational disparity and inequality. So to address and ameliorate the unbecoming trend, and to ensure that all aspirants have a level playing ground and are admitted base on merit; JAMB was created and was saddled with the responsibility of conducting entrance examination for candidates into all tertiary institutions in the country. Candidates do not need to sit for any other exams after jamb - successful candidates are given automatic admission into their respective institutions of choice.

Surprisingly, in 2005, the long forgotten examination (which, then, was generally known to be unfeasible) was re-awakened again and was re-named to be post UTME. Some of the reasons clamored were: JAMB is no longer dependable! JAMB scores are bogus! UTME is full of malpractices! The crops of students admitted into our tertiary institutions are not sound so they need to be further assessed by the schools themselves! Our education is falling! We need to up the number of our entrance examinations!

Although, undoubtedly, our education system is degrading; but is re-introducing post UTME the way forward? Is it a well thought out policy/action? JAMB is not dependable they say; yet, no school would admit candidates who did not meet JAMB's cut-off mark even though they pass their post UTME. Just in 2013, BABCOCK UNIVERSITY asked candidates whose names appear on its admission list but failed to meet JAMB's requirement not to bother paying the university's acceptance fee. Some schools even go the extreme of increasing the cut-off mark that must be met by their aspirants to 250, 270, and even 280 as against JAMB's initial 180. And you say JAMB scores are bogus? For some schools to get their candidates' admission/aggregate score, they add JAMB score with post UTME score and then divide by "x"; yet, they say post UTME was re-introduced to fill the loopholes in JAMB when JAMB still, to large extent, influences students' aggregate scores.

While some candidates have wasted money on Post UTME and have been denied admission repeatedly [even when they meet all requirements] due to nepotism in favor of wards of some wealthy parents, some have lost their lives to road accidents while going to and fro for the examination. Post UTME has done nothing, whatsoever, to improve our education system; It has rather been successful in creating avenue for our tertiary institution to milk innocent candidates. They say Post UTME would salvage our education system from it current shambles, yet, nothing has fared better since its introduction in 2005.

News abounds of how Nigerian students schooling abroad are making ground breaking successes. If it is not in an American university today, it would be UK’s tomorrow. Of most recent is the news of a Nigerian student who broke the jinx of 50 years in a Japan University - he made first class. Most of them had their basic and secondary education in Nigeria and were admitted into these foreign universities "only" with their school leaving certificate - WAEC. They were never subjected to massive entrance examination before being admitted like we do in Nigeria, yet, they perform well.

What we can learn, and we should learn, is that it is not about conducting massive entrance examination; it is not about subjecting students to stress and hurdles before being admitted. It is about re-structuring our education system - from primary to tertiary level. Government should provide state-of-the-facilities for all schools and should ensure that all schools are conducive and enabling for students' learning. All instructors - teacher and lectures - should be re-oriented. They need to understand that their actions and inactions, to a great extent, have an enduring effect on the success and otherwise of students. They need to begin to teach/lecture with passion and should, at all times, be attentive to the plight of their students. With all these, I believe our education system would change for good.

Conclusively, the right way to getting the best out of students is not by subjecting them to massive examination; it is about providing an enabling academic environment where students can learn with comfort, passion, and with pride. Thank you.

REFERENCES:
1) http://.com/list-of-nigerian-universities-and-their-post-utme-dates-here/
2) http://mypastquestion.com/post-utme-dates-for-various-universities/
3) http://www.webpages.uidaho.edu/~mbolin/busayo.htm
4) http://www.ajol.info/index.php/jorind/article/view/66792
5) Oxford dictionary

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Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: FUNAAB VS IBADAN POLY. WINNER: IBADAN POLY. by kennysbst(m): 12:18am On May 31, 2015
U guys are all wonderful,sammysholar u are jst incredible.

To be candid post utme should be nullified because our institution has turn it to an avenue to rise money while student interest has been override with nepotism and favourite among them self.

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Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: FUNAAB VS IBADAN POLY. WINNER: IBADAN POLY. by jamjam1991(m): 12:40am On May 31, 2015
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Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: FUNAAB VS IBADAN POLY. WINNER: IBADAN POLY. by johncasey1(m): 7:31am On May 31, 2015
I don't support post utme exams being scrapped.it sure is an avenue to sieve out the cheats of the much maligned JAMB UTME....Its so common.nowadays to see students who "excel" at SSCE and JAMB level. and after being admitted. perform poorly at school.A Most schools i know have actually adapted the CBT route before. JAMB did.as a way of checkmating exam malpractices ...........I. can.even.talk of funaab who do use CBT even.for CATs

Sound arguments from.both parties


personally..POST UTMEs. are good

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Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: FUNAAB VS IBADAN POLY. WINNER: IBADAN POLY. by pmann2(m): 7:34am On May 31, 2015
We don't need POST UTME, it's nothing but pure waste of scarce resources, time and energy. Instead of introducing POST UTME, fight CORRUPTION in JAMB and EDUCATION in general. Lets stop faking reality, we know that our problem is CORRUPTION. I can recall that JAMB was very tough some years back, how come, the same JAMB changed all of a sudden? Some persons must be shown the way out. How can we even trust the POST UTME, when some CERTIFICATES from our universities are product of CHEATING.

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Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: FUNAAB VS IBADAN POLY. WINNER: IBADAN POLY. by omokab: 7:46am On May 31, 2015
What I will like to contribute to this topic is just to say post UTME should be totally abolished.If they know that is better than jamb then jamb should be cancelled.But,the recent introduction of computer base exam is giving jamb a upper hand over post UTME in the sense that,malpractices will soon be a matter of past in jamb examination. The additional cost incurred by the student is one of the reason I don't support post utme.Most of the student find it difficult to source money to write jamb,which become a problem for them when the cost of paying for post utme is added. I met a young girl travel to a enugu to write post utme without knowing anybody,she was just looking for where to lay her head for that night. If by mistake she fall into wronh hand of criminals,she may have a kind of bad experience she will not forget.What the government need to do is to fully support jamb in terms of financial,security and means of upgrading jamb to a higher level. Most schools will never want post utme to be scraped,because they are making a lot of money. Not only that,are they not also admitting student through a back door?

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Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: FUNAAB VS IBADAN POLY. WINNER: IBADAN POLY. by wunmi590(m): 8:00am On May 31, 2015
Nunushokoto:
Tell me how possible it is to cheat in a computer based exam where its just u and your computer system.

My brother, just trust urself and don't trust others, in your school FUNAAB, I have a friend whom we did PGD together and he's currently doing his masters in FUNAAB, he told me people always bribe the ICT people in your school to upgrade their marks for the undergraduate student.

Conclusively, you both have done so well in the debate, I give it to both of you, good contrstction of tenses and the use of big grammers is limited and the debate is easy to access and digest for the up comming depators

Polytechnic ibadan is one of my alma mata. And FUNAAB is my fiancee alma mata

Cc- sammysholar
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: FUNAAB VS IBADAN POLY. WINNER: IBADAN POLY. by sammyscholar(m): 8:44am On May 31, 2015
wunmi590:


My brother, just trust urself and don't trust others, in your school FUNAAB, I have a friend whom we did PGD together and he's currently doing his masters in FUNAAB, he told me people always bribe the ICT people in your school to upgrade their marks for the undergraduate student.

Conclusively, you both have done so well in the debate, I give it to both of you, good contrstction of tenses and the use of big grammers is limited and the debate is easy to access and digest for the up comming depators

Polytechnic ibadan is one of my alma mata. And FUNAAB is my fiancee alma mata

Cc- sammysholar
thanks!

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Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: FUNAAB VS IBADAN POLY. WINNER: IBADAN POLY. by Ayoolajumoke(f): 9:03am On May 31, 2015
Post utme should just stay, those jamb scores by participants are just so fake.

In a case where the capacity of the school is 3000 and those that passed jamb are like 5000 of which most of them will not perform well in the departments they applied to, post utme is the best option here to pick those that are really worth the admission.
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: FUNAAB VS IBADAN POLY. WINNER: IBADAN POLY. by papindinho(m): 9:41am On May 31, 2015
A note of correction to both schools.

I think one of the judges in one of the just concluded rounds mentioned the need to write the full meaning of acronyms. Pseudonomer gave one full meaning i.e. Post-UTME and shunned the rest. The others didn't even blink at it.

This forum is accessed by many foreigners who are oblivious of JAMB, SSCE, et al..... It's advisable you take note of that.

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Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: FUNAAB VS IBADAN POLY. WINNER: IBADAN POLY. by Mikelooh2(m): 9:51am On May 31, 2015
fattbabakay:
We are back again and not empty-handed as usual, the Nairaland interschool debate initiates its group stage as Funaab steps up to the stage to engage in a friendly brawl with Ibadanpoly. The subject matter for this debate is "Should Post UTME examinations be
conducted in Nigerian Universities
", the contestants are to drag the topic from both ends, something like a tug of war, as Ibadan polytechnic supports while Funaab opposes the motion.

Let it be known that the school with the highest total score in this group stage runner-up will advance to the final, hence, the fight for a spot in the finals starts now.

Ceteris paribus, all is set and all is well, feel free to rush down to your refrigerator and grab a bottle of champagne, or probably get a calabash of rain water lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed while you sit back and read along.

Conclusively, provided you have not been following the debate from the outset, you may go through THIS THREAD.







TOPIC: Should Post UTME examinations be conducted in Nigerian Universities


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