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Re: Answer This Sunday School Question My People. (see Question) by o2k(m): 5:19pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
NumberOne2: It took Adam another 800 years before he gave birth to daughters. Cain was knew his wife even before the birth of Seth (gen 4 very 16 - 26) 16 NIV:So Cain went out from the Lord’s presence and lived in the land of Nod, east of Eden. 17 NIV:Cain made love to his wife, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Enoch. Cain was then building a city, and he named it after his son Enoch. 18 NIV:To Enoch was born Irad, and Irad was the father of Mehujael, and Mehujael was the father of Methushael, and Methushael was the father of Lamech. 19 NIV:Lamech married two women, one named Adah and the other Zillah. 20 NIV:Adah gave birth to Jabal; he was the father of those who live in tents and raise livestock. 21 NIV:His brother’s name was Jubal; he was the father of all who play stringed instruments and pipes. 22 NIV:Zillah also had a son, Tubal-Cain, who forged all kinds of tools out of bronze and iron. Tubal-Cain’s sister was Naamah. 23 NIV:Lamech said to his wives, “Adah and Zillah, listen to me; wives of Lamech, hear my words. I have killed a man for wounding me, a young man for injuring me. 24 NIV:If Cain is avenged seven times, then Lamech seventy-seven times.” 25 NIV:Adam made love to his wife again, and she gave birth to a son and named him Seth, saying, “God has granted me another child in place of Abel, since Cain killed him.” 26 NIV:Seth also had a son, and he named him Enosh. At that time people began to call on the name of the Lord. The obvious answer is that somethings are beyond our understanding 1 Like |
Re: Answer This Sunday School Question My People. (see Question) by M4gunners: 5:26pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
vacanci:I did rather be successful in whatever am doing than to waste my Parents money in school just as you did. If am not mistaken, at the end of the topic,the Op said Cain travel to a town were he married and have Children with her.Shey her na Man abi woman? Na for nairaland u go dey show ur talent, when ur mates are making millions out there. |
Re: Answer This Sunday School Question My People. (see Question) by possibilita(m): 5:31pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
Cain married his sister,and incase u want to knw Adam had many sons and daughters,only 3 where documented Cain,Abel and Seth. Read Genesis 5 1 Like |
Re: Answer This Sunday School Question My People. (see Question) by vacanci: 5:33pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
M4gunners: Why are you getting deeper in confusion. Do you want the sentence to read "Cain have children with him?". The OP is correct but you think it should be addressed the other way round. The OP said "Cain traveled to a town called Nod and married and gave children with her." her refers to a woman. Pls. Haba. |
Re: Answer This Sunday School Question My People. (see Question) by vacanci: 5:34pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
M4gunners:Why are you getting deeper in confusion. Do you want the sentence to read "Cain have children with him?". The OP is correct but you think it should be addressed the other way round. The OP said "Cain traveled to a town called Nod and married and gave children with her." her refers to a woman. Pls. Haba. |
Re: Answer This Sunday School Question My People. (see Question) by benedictac(f): 5:35pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
ibeloson2002: The one God has revealed to us is for us and the one that is not revealed to us is not our business |
Re: Answer This Sunday School Question My People. (see Question) by Stoglins(m): 5:38pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
Nairalandar:This is what happen when u watch Merlin too much....... |
Re: Answer This Sunday School Question My People. (see Question) by mcprince32(m): 6:00pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
NumberOne2 is very correct. The time frame wasn't mentioned, and it wasn't incestry as at then. 1 Like |
Re: Answer This Sunday School Question My People. (see Question) by 3moses: 6:02pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
it's written that Cain went to a strange land to get wife and marry... Also, when God turned him to a wanderer, Cain asked, won't they kill him anywhere he goes to. that story is yet to be understood. |
Re: Answer This Sunday School Question My People. (see Question) by iliyande(m): 6:05pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
God’s Standard of Holiness “You shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect. Please we have to be perfect for us to see God tomorrow. |
Re: Answer This Sunday School Question My People. (see Question) by 1bunne4lif(m): 6:07pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
At that time, there exists the giants (the wicked angels whom God cast down along with lucifer). These angels are not only men but also women, so, cain got married to the daughters of men i.e. The wicked angels |
Re: Answer This Sunday School Question My People. (see Question) by jossiwan(m): 6:08pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
omanifrank: Very simple... He married his sister... 1 Like |
Re: Answer This Sunday School Question My People. (see Question) by sample042(m): 6:19pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
NumberOne2: Disagree with you. ...Cos right from time both the orthodox and religious bodies(xtains) has always stand against incest. |
Re: Answer This Sunday School Question My People. (see Question) by BlackBature(f): 6:44pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
ginawest:you can question wat u dnt undastand in d bible for clarity |
Re: Answer This Sunday School Question My People. (see Question) by MuttleyLaff: 6:53pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
NumberOne2:It wasn't a case of "Men did not know better" rather more a case of, the practice was permitted (i.e. allowed) by God but at the time when it was no longer safe (i.e. because the risks are now high) for this practice to go on (i.e. continue) God, then, officially voiced out via Leviticus 18:6-15, where he laid down the law against the practice (i.e. "'No one is to approach any close relative to have sexual relations. I am the LORD etc) NumberOne2:The reason why God officially spoke out and gave a law against it to the Israelites was because of: #1) Purity sake, as God is processing Himself to turn up on Earth through the Israelites #2) Genetics, as the human genetic code had become degraded enough that close intermarriage was no longer safe (i.e. the risks of inheriting abnormal physical characteristics including medical problems is highly unavoidable) NumberOne2:God spoke against homosexuality in those two verses as regards His agenda about purity at that era or time Other places where or when the subject of homosexuality/pederast is mentioned in the Bible are in four settings, these under different background or varied degrees, are: 1) The Genesis 19:4-5 Sodom and Gomorrah attempted gang rape of men by men account 2) The Old Testament Leviticus 18:22 law (i.e. Mosaic Law Prohibition) and the Leviticus 20:13 punishment (i.e. law for violating the Leviticus 18:22 Law) 3) 1 Corinthians 6:9 New Testament lists of sins 4) and Paul's Romans 1:26 letter to the Christians in Rome. Whether God still speaks against homosexuality now, note and mind you, not referring to pederast, and whether the Leviticus 20:13 punishment is still valid or applicable today are judgment calls The take on them are going to be personal ones after being fully familiar with all the facts & truth out there NumberOne2:also is against this because of Purity again, passing diseases from animal and it is an abomination NumberOne2:Though it is a taboo in Nigeria/Africa the ocassional married men do practice it with their daughters. It carries death by stoning in Sharia states if married and caught with evidence |
Re: Answer This Sunday School Question My People. (see Question) by Abmalcom(m): 7:07pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
This is an age long question that has been well-explained. If you really want to learn, read the article below. http://christiananswers.net/q-aig/aig-c004.html Let me just quote this few lines but endeavour to read the whole article. "Some claim that the passage in Genesis 4:16-17 means that Cain went to the land of Nod and found a wife. Thus, they can conclude there must have been another race of people on the earth, who were not descendants of Adam, who produced Cain's wife. “And Cain went out from the presence of the Lord, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden. And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bore Enoch: and he built a city, and he called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.” From what has been stated previously, it is clear that all humans, Cain's wife included, are descendants of Adam. However, this passage does not say that Cain went to the land of Nod and found a wife. John Calvin, commenting on these verses, states: “From the context we may gather that Cain, before he slew his brother, had married a wife; otherwise Moses would now have related something respecting his marriage.”[13] Cain was married before he went to the land of Nod. He didn't find a wife there, but “knew” (had sexual relations with) his wife.[14] Others have argued that because Cain built a “city” in the land of Nod, there must have been a lot of people there. However, the Hebrew word translated as “city” need not mean what we might imagine from the connotations of “city” today. The word meant a “walled town” or a protected encampment.[15] Even a hundred people would be plenty for such a “city.” Nevertheless, there could have been many descendants of Adam on the earth by the time of Abel's death |
Re: Answer This Sunday School Question My People. (see Question) by malvisguy212: 7:15pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
sample042:during that time the law against incest was not given yet, human was in the state of perfection,there is no genetic defeat in human,if you observ, adam, eve ,Cain seth,Noah e.t.c all died at the age of 800years upwards but when human began to loss the perfection, the genetic defeat in human began to show effect,Abraham,Moses ,Isaac,Jacob all died at the age of 200years downward meaning human are loosing the perfection in them, so God command Moses to number isreal and then set the law of incest. 1 Like |
Re: Answer This Sunday School Question My People. (see Question) by jomoh: 7:18pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
No be tonto dike dey say he marry. |
Re: Answer This Sunday School Question My People. (see Question) by kingjoo: 7:27pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
The Bible only gave account of the male children born to Adam and Eve, that does not mean that they didn't give birth to female children which Cain easily could have married. 1 Like |
Re: Answer This Sunday School Question My People. (see Question) by FumzeeyGold: 7:48pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
DATS IN GENESIS 4:17 |
Re: Answer This Sunday School Question My People. (see Question) by Princewell2012(m): 8:19pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
NumberOne2:God bless you sir, you have already answer the question. somebody have also asked me this same question which i have answered exactly, i suspect he is the same person that is bringing it up here. Though he is trying to discredit the bible, but God is wiser than him. Thank you once again for your good works. 2 Likes |
Re: Answer This Sunday School Question My People. (see Question) by zudozz: 8:29pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
I don ask 1 pastor b4 e say obviously some people existed b4 God Created Adam n Eve only Adam n Eve were d people he created 2fulfill His purpose on earth. Omo I no wan start 2 dey argue with am 4 im church so I free d matter. D truth b say God created my parents n they created me. |
Re: Answer This Sunday School Question My People. (see Question) by Nobody: 8:38pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
ditossyn: No analysis at all, it bears no relevance to the issue raised by the op. This so called analysis refers to the time past the killing of Abel so is an offshoot of the time in question. |
Re: Answer This Sunday School Question My People. (see Question) by nwakaibeya1: 8:53pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
updates ::::from heaven : authority has come back to the earth,BEHOLD we are not begging human beigns to accept our truth and revelation and that is why we have told them,this is power as of old, that go and sin no more power of Jesus Christ which is unbelievable to human beigns so cant you see that we are wiser than you that criticize us?dont forget this, that many humanbeings are pretenders and are pretenders who will rather die than accept defeat just like Pharoah of bible time who preferred to sink in the ocean than accept defeat from moses even though pharoah knew the truth just like many evil people who read us knows our truth and revelation and many of this pharoahs descendants are still in existence today so you that is ignorant and blind spiritually will not know but we know by the reason of the light and the mantle and the power that be and that is why we reveal the mystery ?you that think that you are wise?many human beigns like to stand at the gate of heaven, enter they will never enter ,also allow others to enter they will never allow others to enter so you must think humanbeigns:we are speaking by the power that is unbelievable to human beigns *this is typical of all our truth and revelation and explanations about the night people ,the rich people and evil marine and occult world and those whom human beings believe in them so much that they were called by God or where made rich by God who are in existence today as being powerful and others as the descendants of the prophets and priests referred to here in the bible @#### Jeremiah 5,25, Your wrongdoings have kept God away;your sins have deprived you of good and peace and night sleep.26 “Among my people are the wicked,who lie in wait like men who snare birds and like those who set traps to catch people.27 Like cages full of birds,their houses are full of deceit;they have become rich and powerful,28 and have grown fat and sleek.Their evil deeds have no limit; they do not seek Gods justice and secular.They do not promote the case of the fatherless;they do not defend the just cause of the poor even when they do its for their own selfish reason unknowingly to the those benefiting from them?.29 Should I not punish them for this?”declares the Lord.“Should I not avenge myself.on such a nation as this?30 “A horrible and shocking thing has happened in the land,31 The prophets prophesy lies, the priests rule by their own authority,and my people love it this way.But what will you do in the end?can't you see, is it not those we call CHAMELEONS? Let this phrase as follows sink in you and we repeat that we keep telling you human beigns about them that are being referred to in those passages by God himself hence judgement has come again or cant you see the judgment is all over the place even though the worst judgement is happening spiritually now but because those being judged are pretenders like pharoah we repeat who will rather die that accept defeat just like Pharoah of bible time who preferred to sink in the ocean than accept defeat from moses even though pharoah knew the truth and was highly respected by people then and just like many respected and evil people who read us knows our truth and revelation and many of his pharoahs descendants are still in existence today so you that is ignorant and blind spiritually will not know but we know by the reason of the light and the mantle and the power that be and that is why we reveal the mystery ?you that think that you are wise?this is words of authority and power from real JESUS CHRIST, that we declare and they are spirits,who can battle with the God of justice,he that made the spiritual laws?NOTE AGAIN we are not begging human beigns to accept the truth and thats why we have told them this is power as of Jesus Christ which is unbelievable to human beigns so cant you see that we are wiser than you that criticize us ignorantly?a wise man will always look well before he eats. Watch out sooner than later we will know who is telling the truth |
Re: Answer This Sunday School Question My People. (see Question) by Nobody: 9:04pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
Thus I a very salient point raised by the op and I often wonder same. Well, I don't think we should be blinded by religion and not see beyond our nostrils. By my thinking and by proxy, believe it is common knowledge that there's darkness n light, positive n negative, live n neutral, male n female, etc. In like manner, there ate two worlds, that owned by God and that owned by Satan. There were actually Three people left in God's world when he threw Cain out of it, leaving a 'mark' on his forehead for later I'd purposes since he (God) knew cain would only have satan's people to live with. Now, I believe this was a grand design by both Gods ( the good God and the bad one) to share the natural symbiosis. Has anyone asked why God took leave of Adam and not watch over him after creating eve, why was the serpent allowed to crawl into the fortified garden of Eden, or above all, why was the temptation tree bearing the deadly fruit of life allowed to grow in the garden in the first place? It was all a design, hence that quote from somebody that heaven's secret are for the gods alone and the revealed are for man n his offspring. So in order to make life a continuum, the good and the bad, light n day, male n female, positive n negative, live n neutral etc must come together hence giving birth to various religion. For all those shouting Satan this, Satan that, you don't know what you are saying or doing for God himself lafs at you. Without Satan, we would not know God. Remember the case of Job,did the bible tell us that Satan 'discussed' with God by way of seeking Permission to tempt Job? ....heavenly secrets are for the gods only....leave matta for Mathias abeg! |
Re: Answer This Sunday School Question My People. (see Question) by sistar007(m): 9:06pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
emrain: it might be true. |
Re: Answer This Sunday School Question My People. (see Question) by AdelekeAkinola(m): 9:29pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
If u read the book of genesis 1:26-28,the bible says that God made man,male and female made he them. The word them is a pointer to the fact that it was not only one person that God made. In verse 28 of the same chapter,the bible still use the word them when it was describing how God blessed them. It was in chapter 2 that the bible described how God made adam which he put in a garden to be his pet,he put him their so that he will not miss with other people that God created cos God intentionally separated him so that he can be having personal relationship with him. So my point is that it was not only Adam that God created but Adam was his favourite. The flood wiped out the other generations of human beings except noah who was from the lineage of adam and all his children that is why we all belong to Adam as our fore father if not for the flood we would have had many generations apart from adam. |
Re: Answer This Sunday School Question My People. (see Question) by Maximus85(m): 9:31pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
omanifrank: There's no secret to this. You know that they grow up to 900years back then. Cain and Abel aren't the only children Adam and Eve had. They had other children, females inclusive. There was no law against insest back then. Therefore, Cain might have married one of his sisters. Since the timing wasn't in order, we don't know how old Cain was when he killed or went away. If he was around 300 or 400, then Adam and Eve could have had grand or even great grand children by then. So the earth isn't having just 4 people as at then. 1 Like |
Re: Answer This Sunday School Question My People. (see Question) by Maximus85(m): 9:37pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
AdelekeAkinola: Yeeeeepa. Oga, where you get this kin info? Please don't mislead people. 1 Like |
Re: Answer This Sunday School Question My People. (see Question) by Nobody: 9:46pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
sistar007: You need serious help. |
Re: Answer This Sunday School Question My People. (see Question) by markettray: 9:56pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
Some claim that the passage in Genesis 4:16-17 means that Cain went to the land of Nod and found a wife. Thus, they can conclude there must have been another race of people on the earth, who were not descendants of Adam, who produced Cain's wife. “And Cain went out from the presence of the Lord, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden. And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bore Enoch: and he built a city, and he called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.” It is clear that all humans, Cain's wife included, are descendants of Adam. However, the passage above does not say that Cain went to the land of Nod and found a wife but that he knew his wife. John Calvin, commenting on these verses, states: “From the context we may gather that Cain, before he slew his brother, had married a wife; otherwise Moses would now have related something respecting his marriage.”[13] Cain was married before he went to the land of Nod. He didn't find a wife there, but “knew” (had sexual relations with) his wife.[14]
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