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Mohammad Prophecy In The Bible by Khalil02(m): 7:17am On Aug 23, 2015 |
Analysis of Deuteronomy 18:18 and who it actually fits. 18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and He shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. This prophecy fits Muhammad s.a.w like a globe. But the Christians claims it talking about Jesus peace be upon him. Now let see who it fits;Muhammmad or Jesus (Isah) peace be upon them: 1. Muhammad and Moses (Musa) had parents but Jesus only had mother. 2. Both Moses and Muhammad had children but Jesus had non. 3. Moses and Muhammad was born in a natural way while Jesus was born in a Miraculous fassion or way. 4. Moses and Muhammad was accepted by their people but Jesus was rejected by his people. It is said in the Bible that he Jesus came unto his own but his own received him not. Jesus was sent to the jews but they rejected him and moses was accepted. 5. Moses and Muhammad where kings and rulers on earth while Jesus was not. When we say kings and rulers we mean they have the capacity to inflict capital punishment see numbers 15:36. Jesus said my kingdom is not of this world meaning am not a ruler on earth see John 18:36. 6. Muhammad and Moses came with a new law while Jesus came to follow the Law of Moses. Jesus said think not that i have come to destroy the law of the prophet but i have come to fulfil the law, for verily i say onto thee as heaven and earth pass one dot or word shall not pass untill all be fulfill Mathew 5:17&18. 7. Moses lead his people out ot Egypt to the holly land and Muhammad lead his people from Makkah to Medina i.e hijra. But Jesus never left his land thus hijra is the beginning of our calendar. 8. Moses worn against pharaoh and Muhammad worn against the people that fought him but Jesus never worn in the worldly sence infact Christians believes he was killed although Muslims dont share thesame idea. 9. Moses died a natural death and was buried in the ground likewise Muhammad but Christians beleives he was resurrected and Muslims don't. Either ways he Jesus didnt die a Natural death. 10. The Christians beleives Jesus is similar to Moses yet call Jesus God or son of God. 11. Both Moses and Muhammad became prophet at the age of fourty while Jesus became a prophet at the age of thirty. 12. The brethren of the Jews are the Arabs through Abraham's wife Hagar see Genesis 16:1-4 lease you will say Abraham never marry Hagar and you will be insulating the prophet of God the Almighty. Infact no prophet has come from Israel ever since Moses died 10 And there arose not a prophet since in Israel like unto Moses, whom the LORD knew face to face, Deuteronomy 34. Conclusively,by all standards only Muhammad peace be upon him fits this chapter of the bible but if you have contrary view with evidence and quotes bring it on. To Allah the Almighty we belong and to Him is our return. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Mohammad Prophecy In The Bible by witnezHD(m): 7:38am On Aug 23, 2015 |
Allah... arm leg leg arm head... this God's body |
Re: Mohammad Prophecy In The Bible by otipoju(m): 7:56am On Aug 23, 2015 |
The bible is like a horse that can be ridden in any direction. You arr free to believe what uou want. My only question for you is why Arabs hate the jews and are bent on totally destroying the them if they consider them as brothers and consider Moses the founder of the Judaism, the jewish religion as a prophet of Allah. 1 Like |
Re: Mohammad Prophecy In The Bible by malvisguy212: 9:46am On Aug 23, 2015 |
Khalil02:Moses – The first mediator Jesus – The final mediator Moses was born as a Hebrew Jesus was born as a Hebrew Moses was chosen by God to be a leader Jesus was chosen by God to be a leader Moses was born while his people were suffering under a cruel leader. (Pharaoh) Jesus was born while his people were suffering under a cruel leader. (Herod) Moses hid in Egypt as a child. Jesus hid in Egypt as a child. The leader of the land that Moses was born into tried to kill all of the babies when he was born. The leader of the land that Jesus was born into tried to kill all of the babies when He was born. Moses turned water into blood. Jesus turned water into wine. Moses died on a hill. Jesus died on a hill. Moses fasted 40 days and faced a spiritual crisis on a mountain Jesus fasted 40 days and faced a spiritual crisis on a mountain. Moses told people about the need for a Passover lamb. Jesus became the Passover lamb. Moses founded a new religion Jesus founded a new religion Moses communicated directly with God Jesus communicated directly with God Moses performed miracles Jesus performed miracles Moses revised an existing religion Jesus revised an existing religion Moses was a law giver – gave the ten commandments Jesus was a law giver – gave the great commandment. Moses was hated by the ruling party (Egyptians) Jesus was hated by the ruling party (Pharisees) Moses had brothers and sisters who misunderstood him. Jesus had brothers and sisters who misunderstood him. Moses chose 12 leaders to follow. Jesus chose 12 leaders to follow. Moses gave his people a new identity as a people. Jesus gave his people a new identity as a people. Moses had followers who strayed from his teachings. Jesus had followers who strayed from his teachings. Moses is arguably the lead figure of the Old Testament. Jesus is the lead figure of the New Testament. Moses taught his followers how to pray. Jesus taught his followers how to pray. Moses chose people to carry on when he was leaving. Jesus chose people to carry on when he was leaving. Moses led his people to the promised land. Jesus leads his people to the promised land. Moses sent 12 spies to Canaan so he could bring people to the promised land. Jesus sent 12 disciples to the world so he could bring people to the promised land. Moses appointed 70 rulers over Israel Jesus appointed 70 disciples to the nations. The people picked up stones to stone Moses but they did not succeed. The people picked up stones to stone Jesus, but they did not succeed. Moses controlled the waters of the Red Sea Jesus controlled the Sea of Galilee Moses brought living water out of the Rock Jesus brings living water to all of his believers. The face of Moses shown with glory on Mount Sinai. The face of Jesus shown with glory on the mount of Transfiguration. Moses lifted the brazen serpent up in the wilderness to heal people Jesus was lifted up on the cross to heal us from our own sins. Moses was a shepherd Jesus was the good shepherd 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Mohammad Prophecy In The Bible by malvisguy212: 9:52am On Aug 23, 2015 |
https://www.nairaland.com/2386060/deutoronumy-18-18-analyst
God told Moses to speak to his brothers,
the Israelites, about the prophet he
would raise up for them:
Deuteronomy 18:18
I will raise up for them a prophet like
you [Moses]from among their
brothers; I WILL PUT MY WORD IN HIS
MOUTH,and he will tell them
everything I command him.
This is NOT how muhammed received his
revelation ,Muhammad, the self-
proclaimed prophet of God, was not the
prophet predicted by Moses to come into
the world.
Furthermore, the one, true God (who is
not Allah) DID NOT PUT WORD INTO
MUHAMMED MOUTH AND COMMAND
HIM TO SPEAK TO HIS PEOPLE by His
angel, Jibrael as the Qu'ran claimed
(surah2:10)
Qur'an 12:2
"We have SENT it down as an Arabic
Qur'an so you people may
understand / reason"
Does sent looks like putting word in your
mouth
? The muslims claimed Allah sent the
quran down from heaven to muhammed
but in deutoronumy 18:18 it say God will
put his word in the mouth of the
prophet.Allah did not put his word on
the mouth of muhammed.
No prophet ever claimed to received
revelation via sent down from heaven
only muhammed.
Surah 4:171: “Christ Jesus the son of
Mary was (no more than) an apostle
of God, and HIS WORD , which he
bestowed on Mary, and a Spirit
proceeding from him: so believe in
God and His apostles.” (Yusuf Ali)
In Surah 4:171,Jesus is called,“His word"
no other prophet were given this benefit
ONLY Jesus .
The fact is, the prophet predicted to
come by Moses was not Muhammad but
was Jesus; He was of the tribe of Judah, a
son of Israel/Jacob. Jesus said, "If you
believed Moses, you would believe me,
for he wrote about me" (John 5:46).
Those who were witnesses of Jesus'
miracles asserted, " Surely this is the
Prophet who is to come into the
world." (John 6:14). Philip, one of Jesus’
disciples, stated, "We have found the
one Moses wrote about in the Law, and
about whom the prophets also wrote
Jesus of Nazareth " (John 1:45). 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Mohammad Prophecy In The Bible by ByfireByfire: 2:05pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
. . OP listen carefully 1.mohammed was a pedophile that slept with a 9 year old girl at more than 50 years while moses and Jesus were not. 2.mohammed was a robber who with his followers killed and robbed people of their belongings, Moses and Jesus were not. 3.mohammed was a rapist that raped infidel women and commanded his followers to do the same which they do till this very date. 4.mohammed was a serial killer and murderer who committed genocide in wars and killing innocent people and commanded his followers to do so. Jesus and Moses were different. 5.mohammed a sex addict had several wives and had several women from wars. Jesus and Moses were different. 6.mohammed a plagiarist copied from the Bible to add to the quran. Jesus and Moses never plagiarized. 7.mohammed still evokes death from the grave so much that even drawing a loving and respectful picture of him or mentioning his name amiss earns you instant death from his followers. Mock Jesus or Moses all you want and nothing happens to you. Draw a loving picture of them to their memory and earn special favors and recognition from men. 8. No single commandment of love from the muhammad's quran but so many commandments and examples of love from Moses and Jesus in the Bible. Op. Comparing mohammed with Jesus is like comparing God with the devil or comparing light with darkness. So quit trying. mUHAMMED IS NOT A PROPHET OF GOD. PERIOD. . . 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Mohammad Prophecy In The Bible by plainbibletruth: 2:51pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
[size=5pt] Khalil02:[/size] First, it is key to note that the verse in question was God's response to Israel. So it is NOT a generalized statement. Second, it was a specific response to what Israel said. Let's see what that verse is saying: "I will raise up for them... ... " Who is the them here? In verse 15 Moses was addressing the Israelites. There he has specifically said:"The LORD your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among you, from your brothers-it is to him you shall listen- So, in verse 18 Moses was now stating the same thing in God's own words. This gives clarity to the fact that the context for 'brethren' is from amongst moses' fellow Israelites. Not any other group of people, who were not given the law, and were not part of the group Moses was addressing. Moses meant then that the prophet would come out of the 12 tribes of Israel. Earlier God has specifically shown those excluded from the reference "brothers". In Deut 17:15 a very strong indication is given as to who "brothers" means in the verses in chapter 18: "you may indeed set a king over you whom the LORD your God will choose. One from among your brothers you shall set as king over you. You may not put a foreigner over you, who is not your brother.". It is clear here that NO FOREIGNER is included in the "brothers". A careful look in the Bible shows that not one reference to other group of people and not even the other sons of Abraham, (apart from Isaac's lineage) or their descendants is referred to as 'brothers' to the Israelites. On the issue of how 'similarities' can be used to show sameness it should noted that similarities and differences exists between all men. Moses and some other prophets had parents, children, were accepted by their people, etc, etc. Since several prophets before Mohammed matched these, the onus is on Muslims who claim it is Mohammed this is talking about to show us clearly how. What is critical therefore is to identify KEY attributes that the future prophet would have to possess to be "like Moses". The Deuteronomy 34 quoted by the OP actually gives an indication of some of these KEY attributes in identifying the future prophet. Deuteronomy 34: 10-12 10 And there has not arisen a prophet since in Israel like Moses, whom the LORD knew face to face, 11 none like him for all the signs and the wonders that the LORD sent him to do in the land of Egypt, to Pharaoh and to all his servants and to all his land, 12 and for all the mighty power and all the great deeds of terror that Moses did in the sight of all Israel. This portion of the Bible is NOT saying that "Infact no prophet has come from Israel ever since Moses died". What it is saying is that NO prophet LIKE Moses had arisen in Israel up till then. 3 KEY Attributes 1) this future prophet will speak the words that God puts in his mouth. 2)this future prophet would have face to face encounter with God. 3)this future prophet is to perform miracles, signs, and wonders. In all these three key areas only Jesus met the criteria set here. Mohammed failed. - God did not put words in mohammed's mouth; it was an angel supposedly that gave him his messages. - Mohammed had no face to face encounter with God. - Mohammed, in the Quran, performed NO miracle. Therefore Mohammed CANNOT be the prophet Moses talked about. 2 Likes |
Re: Mohammad Prophecy In The Bible by Rilwayne001: 3:06pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
The bible is corrupt. Therefore, there is not point using it in validating the coming of the PROPHET (pbuh). 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Mohammad Prophecy In The Bible by malvisguy212: 3:58pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
Rilwayne001:Quran 16:44 [We sent them] with clear proofs and WRITTEN ordinances. And We revealed to you the message that you may make clear to the people what was sent down to them and that they might give thought. I'm sure the muslims know the quran was not revealed in writing. Therefore the 'writings' above refers to the earlier Scriptures. The written proved their MUST be copies going on circulation. okay!!! I challenge ALL muslims to answer the following questions, if properly answered, you will discovered soo many lies has been told against God word: 1. At what point did the people corrupted the Torah and Injeel, was it BEFORE islam, during Muhammad's time of AFTER him? 2. If it was before islam, why would Allah refer Muhammad to something that is non-existent to make confirmation? 3. If it was after Muhamad had died, how was he able to receive the revelation that the Scripture (Torah and Injeel) has been corrupted? 4. The quran confirms that the Scripture was a clear proof in writings. This means there were copies in circulation. How possible all copies vanished without anyone having a copy anywhere? You should by now discover a lie is told. 5. Why would God be so weak as to allow man throw away His words before He would vow to protect the subsequent revelations? Did He learn from experience? 6. Why will God ask muhammed to make confirmation of the corrupted scripture (injeel and torah) ? |
Re: Mohammad Prophecy In The Bible by proo212(m): 3:58pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
Guys, this particular topic has been thrashed to death on this board..... I still cannot find the "unlettered prophet" mentioned in our scriptures 1 Like |
Re: Mohammad Prophecy In The Bible by malvisguy212: 4:01pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
Rilwayne001:When you say corrupted, it mean ,it is the original document but men corrupted it , in other word ,it is the Original word of God which you claimed It was corrupted by men. now answer this: Why will an ominipotent Allah not know in the future, Paul will corrupt his word YET ask muhammed to make confirmation from the same book which will be corrupted in the FUTURE ? If Paul should play such an important role in corrupting Allah word, why won't Allah give warning about Paul ? Don't you think anytime you say the bible is corrupted, you are trying to say Allah fail to guide his word (after he had VOW to protect them ) ? https://www.nairaland.com/2535883/allegedly-corrupted-scripture-questions-muslims 1 Like |
Re: Mohammad Prophecy In The Bible by ByfireByfire: 4:34pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
Rilwayne001: Yet your pedophile, lying , bloodletting prophet who still evokes murder from his grave even when people as little as draw a good picture of him copied little portions of the Bible stories in order to make the quran that is full of lies, hate and bloodshed to appear real and true. |
Re: Mohammad Prophecy In The Bible by adullam210: 5:44pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
The op has only succeeded in shooting himself in the head! |
Re: Mohammad Prophecy In The Bible by adewalker(m): 6:55pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
malvisguy212:. U said jesus led like moses,where did jesus lead jews to?,moses didn't turn water to wine,the jews accepted moses,they rejected jesus,jesus didn't die on a hill,stop brainwashing ur christian,he died on a cross,stop the lies haba,jesus and moses never found any new religion,moses didn't found judaism,he never heard the word wen he was alive,jesus never even heard the word christianity in his life,jesus himself said he didn't come with a new law,he said he came to fulfill the pre existing law of moses,so where did he found a new law,why do lie like this?which brothers and sisters did jesus have?oh my God!,wen will stop playing games this people!,which new identity did jesus give the jews,cos I know they rejected him!,jesus taught his followers how to pray,but name one follower that follow it,again which promise land did jesus led the jews,this is a religious forum,and yet u are making up lies,which 70 rulers did jesus appoint over isreal?are u a literate brother,don't u know wat similarities means again!?,u said they both performed miracles,then u started mentioning their miracles,that aren't even alike,moses turned a rod to serpent,did jesus do that?,no!,moses brot a law,did jesus did?no,moses was loved by the jews,jesus hated by them,moses migrated his people,jesus never migrated the jews,in the verse in question God said"I will raise a prophet from among their bethren.."God didn't say within ur brethren,who are the brethren of jews?arab,yet some people reject mohammad!,but God already knew that,so God said"and it shall come to pass that whoever will not harken to the command he shall give in my name,I will require it of him" this is God saying whoever doesn't harken to the command of the prophet,he shall revenge of it,so if u don't follow the command of mohammad,God will require u of it in the day of judgement,u will come to know 1 Like |
Re: Mohammad Prophecy In The Bible by malvisguy212: 7:29pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
adewalker:this is the problems you have when you don't read the bible, I will not argue with you, you know why ? Because ALL my christians brothers knows everything I said was in the bible.the only point I peak in your post is the rejection of Jesus which can be explain, as a matter of fact , not ALL Jews reject Jesus. the isrealite thought the messiah who is the king of kings will fight war just as the kings in the old testament do , but Jesus came to restore the kingdom adam lost from the beginning, the bible say Jesus preach the kingdom of heaven, here what the disciples say to Him: Act 1:6-8 6 Then they gathered around him and asked him, “Lord, are you at this time going to restore the kingdom to Israel?” 7 He said to them: “It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by his own authority. 8 But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.” You see, even His disciples misunderstood Him, it is only Simon peter knows who Jesus really IS ,all the rest don't know His mission,Jesus did not came to restored the kingdom to isreal, so the Jews thought he fail, that why they reject him, but one thing for sure, not AlL reject the message. |
Re: Mohammad Prophecy In The Bible by adewalker(m): 7:48pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
malvisguy212:. U are shooting urself on the foot,no rational christian that have an iota knowledge of the bible will believe any of those innovations u posted above,so according to ur last post,only peter seems to have believed him,while all the jews rejected him,well,moses ws accepted by all jews,the jews totally rejected him,the only people who took him were his desciple,and one of them styl betrayed him to his enemies,moses ws never betrayed?,am waiting for u to give more,wat u have only achieved so far is to give more reasons why jesus was unlike moses,don't come here and brainwash ur fellow christians,who are so lazy to read the bible or even make research on their own 1 Like |
Re: Mohammad Prophecy In The Bible by malvisguy212: 9:44pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
adewalker:you are not bright enough to debate. Ok. |
Re: Mohammad Prophecy In The Bible by ByfireByfire: 9:51pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
adewalker:. . BEHOLD THE END OF THIS DISCUSSION. . . ByfireByfire: |
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