@Topsy, @twinskenny, is it necessary to have 20mm pipes running through ceilings/woodwork or let me just ask, are there downsides to just running conduits in the walls only and running the wires naked in the ceiling

debeey87:
@Topsy, @twinskenny, is it necessary to have 20mm pipes running through ceilings/woodwork or let me just ask, are there downsides to just running conduits in the walls only and running the wires naked in the ceiling

Imagine what would happen if rat chop one and roof come leak join.

sonnie10:

Imagine what would happen if rat chop one and roof come leak join.

Serious kasala!

debeey87:
@Topsy, @twinskenny, is it necessary to have 20mm pipes running through ceilings/woodwork or let me just ask, are there downsides to just running conduits in the walls only and running the wires naked in the ceiling

Not advisable sir. Do a full conduit system

Thanks.

sonnie10:

Imagine what would happen if rat chop one and roof come leak join.

fire hazard

debeey87:
@Topsy, @twinskenny, is it necessary to have 20mm pipes running through ceilings/woodwork or let me just ask, are there downsides to just running conduits in the walls only and running the wires naked in the ceiling

Na do full conduit sir

Cost difference not that much

twinskenny:


Na do full conduit sir

Cost difference not that much

Is money everything, what about safety of people that will live there including the owner, if it is private resident. Does the law permit it. This kind of thinking should be discouraged. Thank all the professionals that stood firm to defend their positions.

kopell:
Is money everything, what about safety of people that will live there including the owner, if it is private resident. Does the law permit it. This kind of thinking should be discouraged. Thank all the professionals that stood firm to defend their positions.

money is the most important factor to builders so you use that to advise them using what they care about.

If safety is a priority, buildings won't be falling

I can't believe I am just seeing this. Thank you so much for your help. I appreciate boss. I have sorted it and everything is fine. God bless you.

topsy23:


I have 2 questions to ask you based on your comment above .

1- Did you check the voltage reading on any of your small stabilizer/voltage regulator you have at home the value of supply voltage ?
2- At peak period i.e between the hour of 5pm and 9pm you need to check the value of voltage to be sure of peak period voltage.

If you plan to get the central stabilizer, we must know the total load in your house e.g.
-Number of AC
-Number of water heater
Number of lighting point
-Number of socket .etc

All these are required to get the rating of stabilizer required.

You can not just jump into 5000W for a central stabilizer when your building is a duplex or tye total load is 10,000W REMEMBER it won't work.

Also, we need to know if your connection to your building is 3-phase connection or single phase connection . It won't be advisable to install single phase stabilizer if you have 3-phase equipment in your house ... It will not work.

Your choice of stabilizer voltage range will depend on the minimum value of voltage in your area. Some stabilizer voltage range is low as 90V - 230V while some are
100V - 230V,
110V-230V
Etc

michlins:
money is the most important factor to builders so you use that to advise them using what they care about.

If safety is a priority, buildings won't be falling

Building a good 3 bedroom these days is not less #5-10M.
Did you know that the pvc pipe that would cover the entire roof for conduit wiring of such building might not be up to #50k?
There are areas that one might cut cost in building but this is definitely not one of them. The risk is enormous.

sonnie10:

Building a good 3 bedroom these days is not less #5-10M.
Did you know that the pvc pipe that would cover the entire roof for conduit wiring of such building might not be up to #50k?
There are areas that one might cut cost in building but this is definitely not one of them. The risk is enormous.

I understand what you're saying but ordinary Nigerian wants to cut corners

henrymor:
I can't believe I am just seeing this. Thank you so much for your help. I appreciate boss. I have sorted it and everything is fine. God bless you.

You are welcome sir

My dad didn't do full conduit and his building hasn't burnt down or electrocuted anyone for over 30 years now...

Yes it is good to be modernized but some old practices do not hurt though....

Quality means doing it right when no one is looking.

michlins:
money is the most important factor to builders so you use that to advise them using what they care about.

If safety is a priority, buildings won't be falling

I believe this thread is to give the best possible practice, standard and safety.

Tell the client the pros and cons of each and give the best advice possible.

A country where electricity comes in low and high voltages, different wire quality and kids at home etc, nature of wiring must be given priority in a changing world.

olukaygold:
Quality means doing it right when no one is looking.

Nice, Real nice.... but i like my balconies clear and open to enjoy the view and fresh breeze.

Around 1989 about 34 years ago, my neighbor, may his soul Rest In Peace, was involved in a ghastly MVA with his 404 Peugeot pickup. It did not have basic safety features like airbag and seatbelt. The doctors said he hit the chest on steering wheel.
This is over three decades, but we still see people driving same model of vehicle, with no incidents.
The moral of the story; You can never tell when a devouring leopard is laying ambushed but you can be prepared.
Safety first, is why the Boys Scouts has their moto as “be prepared.”
Consider this when you build.

BrickDevo:

Nice, Real nice.... but i like my balconies clear and open to enjoy the view and fresh breeze.

I also like Open Balconies but most Tenants esp Youth preferred a barricaded Balcony Apartment.

sonnie10:
Around 1989 about 34 years ago, my neighbor, may his soul Rest In Peace, was involved in a ghastly MVA with his 404 Peugeot pickup. It did not have basic safety features like airbag and seatbelt. The doctors said he hit the chest on steering wheel.
This is over three decades, but we still see people driving same model of vehicle, with no incidents.
The moral of the story; You can never tell when a devouring leopard is laying ambushed but you can be prepared.
Safety first, is why the Boys Scouts has their moto as “be prepared.”
Consider this when you build.

Apt!🙏

These my eyes ehh! Lord, may it not lead me into temptation. Amen.

twinskenny:
This house will be smart

Electrical
Video door bell
Intercom
Ip cctv
Smart switches
Etc.

08051355133

Does this building have adequate parking space?

Looks clustered.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHCTtJJZoVo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UOg1kOPxus

Una don talk very well on the matter. My question stemmed from what we do now and what was obtainable in the past. My dad did surface wiring for his house and it's still standing like @redgem said.

I remember asking here months ago why we first do plastering on bathroom and kitchen walls then still use plaster sand and cement again to fix tiles instead of eliminating the first plastering and just fix the tiles directly on the blocks.

Personally, the cost implication is minimal but it's what I have seen people do around hence the question

Please house whats the going rate for iron rods ( Local ) today in lagos
10mm
12mm
16mm
Thanks

Good afternoon house

Please how much is Coleman 1.5, 2.5 and 4mm cables now?

What are the better alternative and their prices please, an electrician suggested seebest but never heard of it

Available to give you the best supply deal
08126254470

debeey87:
Una don talk very well on the matter. My question stemmed from what we do now and what was obtainable in the past. My dad did surface wiring for his house and it's still standing like @redgem said.

I remember asking here months ago why we first do plastering on bathroom and kitchen walls then still use plaster sand and cement again to fix tiles instead of eliminating the first plastering and just fix the tiles directly on the blocks.

Personally, the cost implication is minimal but it's what I have seen people do around hence the question

Remember also that what they did those days was mostly surface wiring and not half conduit.
Secondly the wires were different. It had another thick insulation after the individual red and black insulation which served as the PVC pipe. Also the wires were not passed through ceiling, instead holes were drilled through walls.

The half conduit which you asked earlier is a totally new invention were single wires (red and black ) are passed through the ceiling without pvc. That is the one that makes me cringe.

Lastly, full conduit is a different ball game.

MrDraey:
Good afternoon house

Please how much is Coleman 1.5, 2.5 and 4mm cables now?

What are the better alternative and their prices please, an electrician suggested seebest but never heard of it

Go for Coleman,?Nigerchin/Kabelmetal/Purechem
1.5mm 13,500
2.5mm 22,400
4mm 36,000

redgem:


I can't give her access to the account...this incident shows she isn't smart... Yeah, the money is gone but someone will have to pay for her carelessness...

Give her access and you SWEEP daily

QS in the house..

How much is the rate of 1 cubm of 1.3.6. concrete now?