paulGrundy:

Even the apostles never claimed to be the link to the truth, or claimed that they have salvation.

That's the problem with you folks is that you are erronoesly trained to believe that an organization will interprete scripture for you, my bible tells me that the spirit reveals the deep things of God, not any watchtower or organization.

Ubenedictus:


lol

you don't celebrate birthdays because there is no biblical injuction for it? Common dear what did Paul teach concernin the observance of days.

You guys need to take it easy you have left the doctrines of the Lord and u are pursueing traditions. Observance of days does not make a man a sinner wether it is birthday or anniversary e.t.c, a Christian should know this. You mentioned some early Christians didn't celebrate birthdays are you aware they celebrated death days and "rebirth" days. While other didn't even care.

MzNelly:


"Serve me or die"

E tire me o, my brother

Ubenedictus:


I do not belive in the punitive uncle conception, nor do I believe that God is Santa claus.

I believe a bit differently from most. Yahweh is life itself, He is Love itself, In Him mercy is personified, in Him do we trully have life and by our own conscious choice we decide if we want communion with him, He invites us to this communion, He want in there. To live in Him is to live, to reject His is to die. It is not some punitive measure, it is simply a corresponding reality. As without the sun, organic living things dies, because they are separated from an important life principle so is it with God without him we will truely die, we will die the true death.

Death isn't exactly the strike back of the punitive God in response to our ultimate choice, Death is instead the direct consequence of our chioce.

Jozzy4:


Just admit the underlined !

MzNelly:

What class do you belong----Atheist.....? Christian? Muslim?

Jozzy4:


A p.ost filled with personal assumptions and some unscriptural death and rebirth days celebration . No single scripture

Jozzy4:


Really ? Apostles never claim to be the link to the truth and they said this :

" Now we COMMAND you , brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, to keep away from every brother who walks irresponsibly AND NOT ACCORDING TO THE TRADITION RECEIVED FROM US" - 2 The 3:6

And they say this:

" if anyone does not obey WHAT WE SAY in this letter, take note of him. Have nothing to do with him so that he will feel ashamed" - 2 The 3:14

Rili ? U dont go to church
Moreover can you share some of the things the spirit have revealed to you? Lets see

Ubenedictus:



now you're simply looking for a box to put me.
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I am a Christian

paulGrundy:


Yes, apostle Paul saw himself as furtherer of the truth not a link.
Titus 1:1
Paul, a servant of God and an apostle of Jesus Christ to further the faith of God’s elect and their knowledge of the truth that leads to godliness—
Note the definitive article "THE" implying just one truth- JESUS john 14:6
Your quotes confirmed my earlier assertions. @the caps, the apostles got the traditions from Jesus- the truth, nothing more, nothing less of what Jesus taught.

I go to church,and I know that pastors and co are there to perfect saints for ministry work Eph 5:11-12. Not to conjure truth.

paulGrundy:


Never knew FDS were 2000+ years old



Even the apostles never claimed to be the link to the truth, or claimed that they have salvation.

Salvation was ascribed to JESUS only Acts 4:12



That's the problem with you folks is that you are erronoesly trained to believe that an organization will interprete scripture for you, my bible tells me that the spirit reveals the deep things of God, not any watchtower or organization.

dolphinheart:



Wish you could answer my questions

MzNelly:


Hmmn.

Ex Jw?

paulGrundy:

What question??

dolphinheart:


The one I asked you

Jozzy4:


but
Titus 1:1 still prove increased knowledge of truth can only be gotten from the Apostles @underlined , Not from the pharisees or Rabbis ; The apostles are therefore the middlemen/Link between Jesus and a sincere truth seeker (Eph 2:20 )

DEFINITION OF
MEDIATOR
1
n a negotiator who acts as a [size=20pt]link[/size] between parties
Synonyms:
go-between, intercessor, intermediary, intermediator

Should pastors TEACH sciptural truth ? Yes or No !

Which ministry work ?

paulGrundy:


1 Timothy 2:5King James Version (KJV)

5 For there is one God, and [size=20pt]one mediator[/size] between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;



http://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/mediator

Any other link (organization or man) is an impostor.

There is a ministry work of a teacher, he explains truth not manufacture truth.

Jozzy4:
Your knowledge of scripture is zero !

Jesus is the mediator and that mean he will speak and explain truth for his disciples from heaven , right ?

Am wondering why the brothers and sisters first century christains in the first century travelled to jerusalem to tell the apostles to resolve the matter regarding circumcision , why didnt they travel to heaven and tell Jesus to resolve it ?[/b]





[quote]Very good ! Since have been [been a member] reading the JW's publication , THEY also explain the truth in the bible , you will always find scriptural quotes in "() " throughout the magazines . Infact its very difficult to read those magazines our literature without me going into the bedroom to pick my bible .

paulGrundy:


Sound like a typical response from dolphinheart.

Romans 10:14-15

14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!

John 14:26

26 But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you.

John16:13, 1Corith 2:13

Jozzy4:


The above show you have some personal pr.oblems.

Today , who are those preaching the goodnews of Gods Kingdom in all the earth as prophesied in Matt 24:14 ?

Ii. Who are those known and identified worldwide for preaching ?

paulGrundy:


Anyone who doesn't carry a bag full of awake! And watchtower going door to door has "personal problems".






The preaching work is NOT a prophetic fulfillment, its a command/mandate. This command is not customized with a watchtower patent stamp, after all watchtower society was not even in existence when it was given.

Mark 16:15

2 Corinthians 5:11-21New International Version (NIV)

The Ministry of Reconciliation
11 Since, then, we know what it is to fear the Lord, we try to persuade others. What we are is plain to God, and I hope it is also plain to your conscience. 12 We are not trying to commend ourselves to you again, but are giving you an opportunity to take pride in us, so that you can answer those who take pride in what is seen rather than in what is in the heart. 13 If we are “out of our mind,” as some say, it

Jozzy4:


Who are those known worldwide for doing the preaching work today ?

paulGrundy:


[s]
I can see that some parts of my quote has been cut-off, And I can also see that you are bent on trolling. I will leave you to it, accurate truth is too sacred to be trampled on by pigs. [/s]

MzNelly:


Em....

Do you believe in the Bible?

joseph1832:
I must ask what you mean by 'believe in the Bible' so I can give you a concrete answer.

*sorry for replying this late.

MzNelly:


It's a simple question.

Do you believe in the contents and authenticity of the Bible?

MzNelly:


I'm not evolve?

The Witnesses are great Bible students, I'll give them that.
It's not a matter of leaving the JW to a church here....

The issue is there are certain things with them I'm not cool with.
I thought I already explained this.

smexy:
It's quite funny, thinking you will find a solution to your crisis on NL

johnydon22:
I think you need to get your head straight a bit. . No atheist believes or hates any deity. . What atheist argue against is the propagation of myth as truth and the psychological abuse being laid on the world by religions using their God concept. . That someone discusses Gandalf doesn't mean he exists or i may say that because you are a christian you hate the muslim God, so get your facts straight and stop making untrue daft assertions.
No we are trying to subject your beliefs to scrutiny so as you rid you of your delusion by triggering independent reason in you as a human..

When people sell ancient mythologies as truth in public, they should expect to be challenged, refuted and that stupendous mythology criticized. . . I only wonder how your brain works when you can't discern discussing a concept doesn't entail acknowledging that concept exists as an entity..

MzNelly:

Yeah, I know

smexy:
then why bring it up?