HIDDENSECRECY:


Have you had time to read the "Shepherd The Flock Of God Book"? (if no, its available online)

I felt disheartened to see the biased writings of the governing body and hypocritical anecdotal scenarios.

E.g. Unmarried young people who move in together commits a sin but unmarried Elderly folks are allowed to move in together not counted as sin.

HIDDENSECRECY:


Have you had time to read the "Shepherd The Flock Of God Book"? (if no, its available online)

I felt disheartened to see the biased writings of the governing body and hypocritical anecdotal scenarios.

E.g. Unmarried young people who move in together commits a sin but unmarried Elderly folks are allowed to move in together not counted as sin.

TheDauraMallam:

I have the pdf version.

TheDauraMallam:


Lol. It's really funny when people assume I'm moslem because of my moniker.



You know I actually typed the above because I assumed mallam were from the north. Assumption, but not sure. Then I crosschecked google and viola, I was wrong!



To even think I had erroneously explained myself on previous Nairaland threads and was believed by people without checking out the facts is baffling.

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OK. I'm not a moslem. The moniker was created in allegiance to Buhari's presidential campaign, ergo Daura. I was born into the JW faith. The book that actually messed up my mind about the JW doctrines were Mankind's Search for God, All Dan Brown Novels, and the Internet.

Here below was a comment I posted in 2009, with my first Nairaland account:

MzNelly:

Proof of God's existence:
Life did not and cannot arise spontaneously from lifeless material. This is in complete agreement with scientific laws and experimental tests. The laws of statistics, entropy, calculations from thermodynamics and kinetics all converge on the conclusion that spontaneous generation of life cannot occur. It just does not happen.
Ever wondered why life does not exist on Mars or other planets on its own? Just like that?

johnydon22:
[b]Bingo!!! Argumentum ad ignorantum. . Argument based on ignorance because you lack knowledge of how something started then it must be a God...

First even though i do not subscribe to any hypothesis on the emergence of life on earth, i have known quite well that Scientific hypothesis like Abiogenesis postulates emergence of single celled organisms from Organic materials instead.

So that nobody knows how life started YET is not proof of any God but rather an avenue for more study on that subject so we can ascertain how it actually happened. .

You probably do not know how large the universe is to limit your question of extra-terrestrial life on Mars alone. .And there is this thing called Goldilock zone..One can still boomarang this argument and assert "why was that God unable to create life on these other planets with seemingly unfavourable conditions" and then can conclude that emergence of life can only take place in a favourable environment of which is called Goldilock zone in science..

And between none of these planets has been explored thoroughly to establish whether they contain life even in a single celled form

The probability that earth is the only planet that harbours life in this milky way galaxy only is even almost 0.

So this is not an evidence for any God but rather simply your attempt to tender your own absurd God of the gap filler in a premise where there is lack of knowledge....[/b]

MzNelly:


Are you an atheist now or...?

Can I have it please?

TheDauraMallam:


I'm an agnostic atheist.

Agnostic atheists are atheistic because they do not hold a belief in the existence of any deity and agnostic because they claim that the existence of a deity is either unknowable in principle or currently unknown in fact.



Here. It's 24 mb
www.x-jv.dk/aeldstebog.pdf

Side word. It's not as easy as it sounds but when you study all the worlds religions and ideology, you're finally left with no other options. Well, unless you don't want to hear the truth because you don't want your wishful thinking a.k.a illusions to be destroyed.

MzNelly:


Lol, I saw the movie but I couldn't finish it.
The things it said, and the way it presented it....lol. I wasn't strong enough to withstand all the falsehood contained therein.

I think the more one strives to know, the less one actually knows.
I personally don't like philosophy novels.

MzNelly:


Lol, anyone who has done deep research knows there's nothing scripturally wrong with birthdays.

Jozzy4:


Can you scripturally prove your statement above ?

TheDauraMallam:


My quote there was to present how naive I was back then. That was 2009. This is 2015. And the book is pure fiction. Dan Brown is just a very enthralling thriller writer.

You should read Angels and Demons!

TheDauraMallam:


My quote there was to present how naive I was back then. That was 2009. This is 2015. And the book is pure fiction. Dan Brown is just a very enthralling thriller writer.

You should read Angels and Demons!

dumo1:
I am a Jehovah's witness and coming from Christendom I know what it was like. I am in d truth now and I thank God for guiding my path. No regrets whatsoever. I know what MzNelly is going through but when it happens I just take 2wks off from meetings and everything but I always go back cos what u learn @ d kingdom hall no pastor will stand on a pulpit and teach u, so m always grateful for d spiritual food I receive dats why no pastor can come and tell me nonsense. The question MzNelly is now that u have left where do u go? do u stay @ home or become an atheist. That's the only question I have for u.

Jozzy4:

MzNelly post=37487561:


Lol, anyone who has done deep research knows there's nothing scripturally wrong with birthdays.

Can you scripturally prove your statement above ?

Jozzy4:


Lol @ no pastor can tell me nonsense , i was suprised when I discover that JW'S study the exact same thing all over the world on sundays.

Thats Unique

But why is it difficult for ex - JW's to join another church or religion? Am curious coz even raymond franz still agree with the witnesses on trinity and hellfire. Infact , he didnt join any religion . WHY?

oreos:


Please don't tell me that Dan Brown's books influenced you?

TheDauraMallam:


I'm an agnostic atheist.

Agnostic atheists are atheistic because they do not hold a belief in the existence of any deity and agnostic because they claim that the existence of a deity is either unknowable in principle or currently unknown in fact.

Jozzy4:


Lol @ no pastor can tell me nonsense , i was suprised when I discover that JW'S study the exact same thing all over the world on sundays.

Thats Unique

But why is it difficult for ex - JW's to join another church or religion? Am curious coz even raymond franz still agree with the witnesses on trinity and hellfire. Infact , he didnt join any religion . WHY?

MzNelly:


Lol, no I'm good.

MzNelly:


Is there a Scriptural injunction that tells you not to celebrate your date of birth? To give thanks to the Giver of life?

That two people fvcked up on their birthdays means it is scripturally wrong to celebrate yours? Tell me something else.

HIDDENSECRECY:


I'm a passive witness (Agnostic maybe) for now.

Lots of JWs are disillusioned. I never forget the incidence that happened in 2009 in Eastern Nigeria, a CO committed suicide in the wee hour of the morning in the cong he was serving and his corpse was taken to morgue and till date no one was allowed to question why or what happen?

Sisters are not allowed to marry who they love but must "marry only in the Lord" while brother are at liberty to "convert and marry".

My problem is with those 7 men in Brooklyn that are lording it over people and family.

MzNelly:


Is there a Scriptural injunction that tells you not to celebrate your date of birth?

To give thanks to the Giver of life?

That two people fvcked up on their birthdays means it is scripturally wrong to celebrate yours? Tell me something else.

MzNelly:


How come you're not a Witness?

Faith without works is dead, you know

Jozzy4:


Lol @ no pastor can tell me nonsense , i was suprised when I discover that JW'S study the exact same thing all over the world on sundays.

Thats Unique

But why is it difficult for ex - JW's to join another church or religion? Am curious coz even raymond franz still agree with the witnesses on trinity and hellfire. Infact , he didnt join any religion . WHY?

Jozzy4:
I thought you gonna give me scripture , but All I see in your post is emotion .


And is there a scriptural injunction that tells you to celebrate your date of birth ? Why didnt we see any friend of God in the scriptures doing it ? Why is it that only that of pagans are documented ?



I do that everyday. No until we party or some group of boys beat me mercilessly as done in todays birthday festival rituals . So cruel .



its there for a reason ( 2 timothy 3:16,17) .

A book written in 1848 named " THE HISTORY OF THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION AND CHURCH DURING THE FIRST THREE CENTURIES said the idea of a birthday festival is far from those early christians .

MzNelly:


Lol, anyone who has done deep research knows there's nothing scripturally wrong with birthdays.

The problem with the Witnesses is that they are too over zealous, and want Scriptural backing on everything, even in issues that just needs their own discernment.
The worst part is that they then impose it on others, which is beyond preposterous,

Jozzy4:

And is there a scriptural injunction that tells you to celebrate your date of birth ? Why didnt we see any friend of God in the scriptures doing it ? Why is it that only that of pagans are documented?

blackmantis:


ROM 3:3,4. Says let God be found true even if everyman be found a lair.

IsaacBuchi:



I don't really know how this Nairaland PM thing works...I sent the message and i got a mail in my inbox rather....I cant even tell if it got to you or not....however, my details bear no security risk as i am no star yet ......so here is my contacts: 0*******and ***(((***....Thank You

TheDauraMallam:


Does God lie?

No, God cannot and does not lie.

God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent. Numbers 23:19
The Strength of Israel will not lie nor repent. 1 Samuel 15:29
Thou art that God, and thy words be true. 2 Samuel 7:28
Thy word is true from the beginning. Psalm 119:160
In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began. Titus 1:2
It was impossible for God to lie. Hebrews 6:18

Yes, God lies by proxy; He sends prophets or lying spirits to deceive.

Now, therefore, behold, the Lord hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of these thy prophets, and the Lord hath spoken evil concerning thee. 1 Kings 22:23
Now therefore, behold, the Lord hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of these thy prophets. 2 Chronicles 18:22
Ah, Lord GOD! surely thou hast greatly deceived this people. Jeremiah 4:10
O Lord, thou hast deceived me, and I was deceived. Jeremiah 20:7
And if a prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the Lord have deceived that prophet. Ezekiel 14:9
For this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie. 2 Thessalonians 2:11

BINGO

**Sips Orijin while waiting for his cognitive abilities to shut down**

firestar:


Send me a PM.
There's a poetry class currently on WhatsApp:
Nairaland Poetry Club.

blackmantis:


Those who were deceived was because they failed to accept the truth.
2Thesalonian 2:9-12.
As for Jeremiah he thought he could not continue his mission but Gods power overshadowed him and helped him fulfill his commission. Jeremiah felt God decieved him because he thought he was alone. Jer 20:11

GOD DOES NOT LIE