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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by SegunWamiri(m): 2:46pm On Mar 27
Please can someone enlighten us on how the different bodies responsible for rating institutions in the UK arrive at their figures and rankings. Maybe if we know the yardstick for placing one above the other, it can help prospective students make a choice decision on which school to settle for regardless of their rankings having set their priorities.
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by Phatkings: 4:05pm On Mar 27
Aprokodaughter:
Seems majority of you are in Business related courses or Science.if you are a graduate from the Arts. You won't find accredited courses in the arts.

Are you now saying that Art Graduates should not apply for a postgraduate program in the UK? When they have skill shortages in the art industry.

As for UK universities ranking I agree with you.

I believe those from art also have bodies too that accredit departments or faculties
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by Phatkings: 4:07pm On Mar 27
SegunWamiri:
Please can someone enlighten us on how the different bodies responsible for rating institutions in the UK arrive at their figures and rankings. Maybe if we know the yardstick for placing one above the other, it can help prospective students make a choice decision on which school to settle for regardless of their rankings having set their priorities.

They use so many methods
Besides the UK education system have started ranking uni according to their teaching capabilities and other things
That's why you see
Gold
Silver
Bronze

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by Aprokodaughter: 4:18pm On Mar 27
Phatkings:


I believe those from art also have bodies too that accredit departments or faculties

I did not say all of them don't have accredited bodies. Reason why I follow some UK student forums. They are really helpful.
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by Phatkings: 4:42pm On Mar 27
Aprokodaughter:


I did not say all of them don't have accredited bodies. Reason why I follow some UK student forums. They are really helpful.

I also do my dear
The student room
The student crowd they also rank higher institutions according to subjects and satisfaction

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by Aprokodaughter: 4:57pm On Mar 27
Phatkings:


I also do my dear
The student room
The student crowd they also rank higher institutions according to subjects and satisfaction


True
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by SegunWamiri(m): 6:28pm On Mar 27
Phatkings:


They use so many methods
Besides the UK education system have started ranking uni according to their teaching capabilities and other things
That's why you see
Gold
Silver
Bronze

Yes, I've noticed the metalic awards. Now, that's something to work with.
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by Valembon: 9:23pm On Mar 27
Hi
In my Opinion, go for MSC in Cyber Security at Teesside University. The course is specifically listed on the shortage list for IT workforce.
If you are experienced in IT, explore certification exams and training in security vendors link Palo Alto, Checkpoint, Cisco, Fortinet.

Thank me later after graduation (with good grade ooh).

You are not alone. I got same UWE Bristol.
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by suleyoung(m): 10:25pm On Mar 27
good evening everyone

I just got a conditional offer of admission to study accounting and business management (MSc) at Brunel university London and was asked to pay an intial deposit of €3000 as against January 2021.
please I wish to ask are there any scholarship i can apply for?
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by Phatkings: 11:28pm On Mar 27
suleyoung:
good evening everyone

I just got a conditional offer of admission to study accounting and business management (MSc) at Brunel university London and was asked to pay an intial deposit of €3000 as against January 2021.
please I wish to ask are there any scholarship i can apply for?


Check the school website tho and see if their is any
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by Odedenshi1(m): 1:09pm On Mar 28
Good day everyone. Thanks for the great contributions.

Please I would like to be informed about courses with work placement in the 2nd year of study. Is it the duty/responsibility of the school to get the placement for the students or the students would search for and get the placement themselves.

I would like to get first hand information because from what I read from some schools website, they only offer assistance in this regard.
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by Nobody: 1:36pm On Mar 28
Lmaooo you will become methuselah before uni will find placement for you. They will just keep filling your emails with placement adverts.

So It’s your responsibility dear.
If you’re not able to secure one, you will just continue with classes & dissertation. They don’t even send you with that placement.

I personally think that these U.K. universities extort internationals. They know very well that at least 80% of internationals will not be able to secure placements, yet they list it on their website to make you pay extra. Internationals too thinking they have sense will be rushing for two year programs just to buy more time in the “abroad”. Las las you will realise that the second year was not really worth the extra tuition. Two years is only handy if you’re going to work to pay off your tuition & you don’t want to be under much pressure. That’s all, nothing else.

The only one they can help you with it’s study abroad but you will be the one to do the uni & visa applications. Then again most internationals don’t utilise this opportunity because they’re either still owing tuition & need to work or they’re just not ready to stress themselves with the whole wahala of moving abroad

Odedenshi1:
Good day everyone. Thanks for the great contributions.

Please I would like to be informed about courses with work placement in the 2nd year of study. Is it the duty/responsibility of the school to get the placement for the students or the students would search for and get the placement themselves.

I would like to get first hand information because from what I read from some schools website, they only offer assistance in this regard.
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by prittian: 2:05pm On Mar 28
Please what's the best way to secure placements? Any ideas on how best to sell yourself as an international student.
Any information will be helpful before d study begins.

mikeerrr:
Lmaooo you will become methuselah before uni will find placement for you. They will just keep filling your emails with placement adverts.

So It’s your responsibility dear.
If you’re not able to secure one, you will just continue with classes & dissertation. They don’t even send you with that placement.

I personally think that these U.K. universities extort internationals. They know very well that at least 80% of internationals will not be able to secure placements, yet they list it on their website to make you pay extra. Internationals too thinking they have sense will be rushing for two year programs just to buy more time in the “abroad”. Las las you will realise that the second year was not really worth the extra tuition. Two years is only handy if you’re going to work to pay off your tuition & you don’t want to be under much pressure. That’s all, nothing else.

The only one they can help you with it’s study abroad but you will be the one to do the uni & visa applications. Then again most internationals don’t utilise this opportunity because they’re either still owing tuition & need to work or they’re just not ready to stress themselves with the whole wahala of moving abroad

Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by Nobody: 2:46pm On Mar 28
Applying for placement is same as applying for a job. Only difference is that placement is temporary as it’s part of your studies ****

As mentioned earlier, you will constantly get placement adverts from the university.

So it’s your job to update your CV & apply for these placements. You can also via indeed and other graduate jobs sites.

You should also update your LinkedIn and send applications from there.

Attend Job Fairs with plenty copies of your updated CV & share to prospective employers.

Make connections with your fellow course mates.

Volunteer as much as you can to enhance your CV or work experience.

If your university offers free language classes, utilise the opportunity.

Then always pray & hope for the best.


prittian:
Please what's the best way to secure placements? Any ideas on how best to sell yourself as an international student.
Any information will be helpful before d study begins.

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by Mindlog: 2:59pm On Mar 28
mikeerrr:
Lmaooo you will become methuselah before uni will find placement for you. They will just keep filling your emails with placement adverts.

So It’s your responsibility dear.
If you’re not able to secure one, you will just continue with classes & dissertation. They don’t even send you with that placement.

I personally think that these U.K. universities extort internationals. They know very well that at least 80% of internationals will not be able to secure placements, yet they list it on their website to make you pay extra. Internationals too thinking they have sense will be rushing for two year programs just to buy more time in the “abroad”
. Las las you will realise that the second year was not really worth the extra tuition. Two years is only handy if you’re going to work to pay off your tuition & you don’t want to be under much pressure. That’s all, nothing else.

The only one they can help you with it’s study abroad but you will be the one to do the uni & visa applications. Then again most internationals don’t utilise this opportunity because they’re either still owing tuition & need to work or they’re just not ready to stress themselves with the whole wahala of moving abroad


That has reaffirmed my decision to opt for the one year M.A option as the only 3 other schools in the UK that offers my course of choice are offering it as a 2-year program with Placement 1 and Placement 2 as part of it. I asked myself why waste time going for a 2 year duration when with the one year program I can still achieve the same outcome, graduate next year and move on with my career!

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by Simran94(f): 3:28pm On Mar 28
Mindlog:


That has reaffirmed my decision to opt for the one year M.A option as the only 3 other schools in the UK that offers my course of choice are offering it as a 2-year program with Placement 1 and Placement 2 as part of it. I asked myself why waste time going for a 2 year duration when with the one year program I can still achieve the same outcome, graduate next year and move on with my career!
Going for a two year program isn’t a waste of time, if you start looking for placements with a GOOD CV the moment you start your program it won’t be difficult getting one. And as the other guy mentioned, attend job fairs and all.
And besides some schools only collect just a few pounds for the placement year (like £850 or more)
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by Nobody: 3:41pm On Mar 28
That’s the thing.

Like I said earlier, internationals tend to think two years is better because it buys them more time per say.

Well it does, to some extent but it’s not really worth it in the long run.

What internationals don’t understand is that even if you do 2 years Msc, if you don’t have employable relevant skills/experience,Nigeria will be awaiting you.

EU/British people barely do 2 years.
Universities are cashing out on gullible internationals big time.

Now they’re going to increase IHS fees from £300 to £620. So if they’re going for two years, that’s £620 x 2 which you will pay upfront in addition to your visa fees. When I arrived Uk, it was only £75 per year now it’s going to £620. These people don’t rate us o.

No offence but most people will end up doing menial jobs all through their two years post study visa. They just want blacks to be doing work that their citizens aren’t really interested in eg care work. Sad truth is that many will still go back to Nigeria or use their savings to continue studying.

U.K. is not a bed of roses but once you are here, thinking of going back to Nigeria after all the money spent, will just make you continue drowning in debts to stay back legally.

A friend just got offer of £9,250 instead of £13,750 for one year programme. My guy said no he wants two years which is £14,200 instead of £18k about I had to hold myself to not call him a fool. People should be wise please.

Mindlog:


That has reaffirmed my decision to opt for the one year M.A option as the only 3 other schools in the UK that offers my course of choice are offering it as a 2-year program with Placement 1 and Placement 2 as part of it. I asked myself why waste time going for a 2 year duration when with the one year program I can still achieve the same outcome, graduate next year and move on with my career!
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by Nobody: 3:50pm On Mar 28
The question is, how many people applying for two years programs got good CVs??

Some were either self employed or working with small business. Nothing to really write home about. Some companies don’t value Nigerian work experience except you worked in big organisations.

Two years is only good if one can really dedicate time to finding a relevant part time work & volunteer often to add as well.

Now someone that’s studying civil engineering will be doing care work or mental health just to pay bills (because those are the easiest jobs to get). You go to these companies with a CV full of Nigerian work experience and upon that, your current job does not even relate to what you’re studying. They will look at you as a joke.

I usually recommend the study abroad option or compulsory internships if one is going for a two years master programme.

Yes In terms of tuition some of them charge about £850 or so but most of them actually charge way more up to £3k. Plus the ones that charge £850 already have expensive one year tuition from £14k. It’s all marketing strategy per say

U.K. mostly favour people in the medical field or part of IT/Engineering really. Business students are just hanging on a rope
Simran94:

Going for a two year program isn’t a waste of time, if you start looking for placements with a GOOD CV the moment you start your program it won’t be difficult getting one. And as the other guy mentioned, attend job fairs and all.
And besides some schools only collect just a few pounds for the placement year (like £850 or more)

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by Franklyn4: 4:04pm On Mar 28
Simran94:

Going for a two year program isn’t a waste of time, if you start looking for placements with a GOOD CV the moment you start your program it won’t be difficult getting one. And as the other guy mentioned, attend job fairs and all.
And besides some schools only collect just a few pounds for the placement year (like £850 or more)

Well , going for 2yrs program may be a waste of time if doing menial jobs is the reason but if upgrading yourself is the reason then you are good to go . Here are my reasons.
1. During your first year, you may like to focus more on your studies without learning extraordinarily

2. For IT students, the 2nd year maybe used to read and sit for international certifications to add to your CV e.gCIsco CyberOps Associate
CCNP Security
CCIE Security
Certified Ethical Hacking Certification
GIAC Penetration Tester
Offensive Security Certified Professional
The first 2 can be written in the pace of 6 months
where the last 3 can be written in a space of one month . It's like(using one stone to kill birds)
3. As an IT student, 2 years even without seeing where to do intern ..... is an advantage to learn and you may even decide to leave uk after your studies if you wish.

this is part of my view for 2years option

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by Mindlog: 4:15pm On Mar 28
mikeerrr:
The question is, how many people applying for two years programs got good CVs??

Some were either self employed or working with small business. Nothing to really write home about. Some companies don’t value Nigerian work experience except you worked in big organisations.

Two years is only good if one can really dedicate time to finding a relevant part time work & volunteer often to add as well.

Now someone that’s studying civil engineering will be doing care work or mental health just to pay bills (because those are the easiest jobs to get). You go to these companies with a CV full of Nigerian work experience and upon that, your current job does not even relate to what you’re studying. They will look at you as a joke.

I usually recommend the study abroad option or compulsory internships if one is going for a two years master programme.

Yes In terms of tuition some of them charge about £850 or so but most of them actually charge way more up to £3k. Plus the ones that charge £850 already have expensive one year tuition from £14k. It’s all marketing strategy per say

U.K. mostly favour people in the medical field or part of IT/Engineering really. Business students are just hanging on a rope

I presently work in a psychiatric hospital as a mental health worker, so I felt since those who would go through either the one year or two year masters program in my intending course would still get to become members of the same British professional body irrespective of duration of program upon graduation and moreover I intend utilizing my weekly 20 hours working in a mental health facility which am already used to, that serving as a paid placement for me. grin

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by Nobody: 4:20pm On Mar 28
Your work and studies obviously correlate so you’re good to go.

I was referring to students studying a course that’s completely different but working in the mental health sector because it pays well & it’s quite easy to get. You’re even lucky that you will get to become part of the BPB. Most people work under agencies that won’t even give references or certificates to support your work experience.

Mindlog:


I presently work in a psychiatric hospital as a mental health worker, so I felt since those who would go through either the one year or two year masters program in my intending course would still get to become members of the same British professional body irrespective of duration of program upon graduation and moreover I intend utilizing my weekly 20 hours working in a mental health facility which am already used to, that serving as a paid placement for me. grin
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by Mindlog: 4:24pm On Mar 28
mikeerrr:
Your work and studies obviously correlate so you’re good to go.

I was referring to students studying a course that’s completely different but working in the mental health sector because it pays well & it’s quite easy to get. You’re even lucky that you will get to become part of the BPB. Most people work under agencies that won’t even give references or certificates to support your work experience.


I understand, it makes sense for one to be strategic with their choices in order to achieve better outcomes. Thanks for your insightful posts.

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by Simran94(f): 4:55pm On Mar 28
Franklyn4:


Well , going for 2yrs program may be a waste of time if doing menial jobs is the reason but if upgrading yourself is the reason then you are good to go . Here are my reasons.
1. During your first year, you may like to focus more on your studies without learning extraordinarily

2. For IT students, the 2nd year maybe used to read and sit for international certifications to add to your CV e.gCIsco CyberOps Associate
CCNP Security
CCIE Security
Certified Ethical Hacking Certification
GIAC Penetration Tester
Offensive Security Certified Professional
The first 2 can be written in the pace of 6 months
where the last 3 can be written in a space of one month . It's like(using one stone to kill birds)
3. As an IT student, 2 years even without seeing where to do intern ..... is an advantage to learn and you may even decide to leave uk after your studies if you wish.

this is part of my view for 2years option
Some schools don’t allow that though. They give students a period to find placement like 12 weeks or less and if the student doesn’t find one, the school would convert the two years program to one year.

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by Nobody: 4:58pm On Mar 28
You’re right
Simran94:

Some schools don’t allow that though. They give students a period to find placement like 12 weeks or less and if the student doesn’t find one, the school would convert the two years program to one year.
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by Phatkings: 5:01pm On Mar 28
Na wa all these plenty discouraging post
So what should we do avoid the UK and look at other countries maybe
Germany
Ireland or Netherlands
Or try USA, Canada or Australia
I just weak cos
USA and Canada to get their visa no be beans
Australia is damn fuckin expensive
*sobs*
Me I am going for msc procurement and supply chain management
I can't come bk after wasting huge money on tuition
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by LaaJiblik: 5:02pm On Mar 28
Franklyn4:


Well , going for 2yrs program may be a waste of time if doing menial jobs is the reason but if upgrading yourself is the reason then you are good to go . Here are my reasons.
1. During your first year, you may like to focus more on your studies without learning extraordinarily

2. For IT students, the 2nd year maybe used to read and sit for international certifications to add to your CV e.gCIsco CyberOps Associate
CCNP Security
CCIE Security
Certified Ethical Hacking Certification
GIAC Penetration Tester
Offensive Security Certified Professional

The first 2 can be written in the pace of 6 months
where the last 3 can be written in a space of one month . It's like(using one stone to kill birds)
3. As an IT student, 2 years even without seeing where to do intern ..... is an advantage to learn and you may even decide to leave uk after your studies if you wish.

this is part of my view for 2years option



Good picture painted there. Have any idea how much ££££ it will cost to obtain those certifications?

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by Mindlog: 5:10pm On Mar 28
Phatkings:
Na wa all these plenty discouraging post
So what should we do avoid the UK and look at other countries maybe
Germany
Ireland or Netherlands
Or try USA, Canada or Australia
I just weak cos
USA and Canada to get their visa no be beans
Australia is damn fuckin expensive
*sobs*
Me I am going for msc procurement and supply chain management
I can't come bk after wasting huge money on tuition

Don't regard it as discouraging but rather giving you a clearer view of what is ahead, so you don't regret spending so much £££ on undesired outcome. It gives you the opportunity to fine tune your plans.

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by Phatkings: 5:20pm On Mar 28
Mindlog:


Don't regard it as discouraging but rather giving you a clearer view of what is ahead, so you don't regret spending so much £££ on undesired outcome. It gives you the opportunity to fine tune your plans.

I applied for Canadian visa last year I got denied
I didn't even get a University admission my cgpa 3.56 was too low
I considered Germany at some point but the courses available in English was just international management which I can't waste money on
A friend is telling me I should try Ireland that it is better than the UK
I. Just weak cos once my family spend this money on me
They won't look at me twice
And I can't come back roaming the streets of lagos

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by Nobody: 5:27pm On Mar 28
grin Phatkings no kill me Abeg

Say na street of lagos
Phatkings:


I applied for Canadian visa last year I got denied
I didn't even get a University admission my cgpa 3.56 was too low
I considered Germany at some point but the courses available in English was just international management which I can't waste money on
A friend is telling me I should try Ireland that it is better than the UK
I. Just weak cos once my family spend this money on me
They won't look at me twice
And I can't come back roaming the streets of lagos
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by Aprokodaughter: 5:30pm On Mar 28
Phatkings:


I applied for Canadian visa last year I got denied
I didn't even get a University admission my cgpa 3.56 was too low
I considered Germany at some point but the courses available in English was just international management which I can't waste money on
A friend is telling me I should try Ireland that it is better than the UK
I. Just weak cos once my family spend this money on me
They won't look at me twice
And I can't come back roaming the streets of lagos


You just have to be prepared...update your cv. Get on Linkedin put up your CV there. Follow UK companies and twerk your cv to meet their demands.
When you get to UK start applying for jobs or internship . Then network make friends not just Nigerian friends.
Follow companies that you want to work with on twitter and IG.

Its not easy anywhere. Be ready

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by Franklyn4: 5:33pm On Mar 28
LaaJiblik:




Good picture painted there. Have any idea how much ££££ it will cost to obtain those certifications?

All of them, including their training and certification will not cost more than 3m(naira).

all will cost 2.8m(naira) the gain will gene-rationally over-worth the cost

These maybe more important than ur degree
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by Nobody: 5:34pm On Mar 28
Is like our friend woke up on the right side of the bed today lol

Praise thy lord

Aprokodaughter:



You just have to be prepared...update your cv. Get on Linkedin put up your CV there. Follow UK companies and twerk your cv to meet their demands.
When you get to UK start applying for jobs or internship . Then network make friends not just Nigerian friends.
Follow companies that you want to work with on twitter and IG.

Its not easy anywhere. Be ready

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