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Re: Nigeria May Slide Into Recession As Economic Indicators Flash Red by jaybee3(m): 2:44pm On Sep 07, 2015
ElFenomeno1:


Just because it is a technical indicator doesn't necessarily mean it is the only measure that should be taken as the gospel

So two quarters is from January - June

It is safe to say we are in recession..... June and it is bloody September already!

Another quarter has passed by!


well you can't technically confirm a recession without having 2 consecutive quarters of negative growth.

What majority are feeling is a slowdown in economy and it's largely due to falling oil prices.

Canada is already in recession because of falling oil prices
China has slowed dramatically and they can’t keep inflating their growth figures as the real economy is now biting real hard. There is probably going to be a mighty bubble in the property sector in china which will obviously spell doom for the commodity sector worldwide.

The other major economies are barely pushing the doom forward by continuously pumping liquidity into the system.

Funny thing is, this is actually a cyclical ish as market dynamics always come into reckoning ever so often so it can correct itself before its possible upward movement.
Re: Nigeria May Slide Into Recession As Economic Indicators Flash Red by neocortex: 2:46pm On Sep 07, 2015
LouisVanGaal:
...Another wailer on the loose...it's because we had 'voodoo economic' team during the last admin, that was why you were blind-folded from reality...
When they lied that our GDP was over 65% and erudites such soludo and utomi were raising alarm; you didnt come up with these piece...
YES the economy is sick, and a large chunk of the problem was contributed by the PDP and their wastefulness in governance...ho ha!!!!
Buhari yet to appoint ministers and we are still managing and seeing some benefits of change; how about when the ministers arrive this month nko??

Change that your moniker , only smart people are allowed to use that name.
so in your warped mind, the IMF and the world bank are all voodoo eceomists
who are on jonathan's payroll.

If you continue like this you may end up a complete zombie who can't think for himself.

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Re: Nigeria May Slide Into Recession As Economic Indicators Flash Red by ElFenomeno1: 2:48pm On Sep 07, 2015
jaybee3:


well you can't technically confirm a recession without having 2 consecutive quarters of negative growth.

What majority are feeling is a slowdown in economy and it's largely due to falling oil prices.

Canada is already in recession because of falling oil prices
China has slowed dramatically and they can’t keep inflating their growth figures as the real economy is now biting real hard. There is probably going to be a mighty bubble in the property sector in china which will obviously spell doom for the commodity sector worldwide.

The other major economies are barely pushing the doom forward by continuously pumping liquidity into the system.

Funny thing is, this is actually a cyclical ish as market dynamics always come into reckoning ever so often so it can correct itself before its possible upward movement.

Jaybee read my response to ApexTitan.
While a combination of the above is inclusive of the causative factors for the current quagmire we are enmeshed in, one cant rule out we are already feeling the pangs of recession!
Re: Nigeria May Slide Into Recession As Economic Indicators Flash Red by otr1(m): 2:50pm On Sep 07, 2015
The FBN Purchasing Managers Index (PMI) shrank in August to 49.2 from an earlier low of 50.6, indicating contraction.
The manufacturing sector, which accounts for 10 percent of GDP, is already in recession as it contracted for a second consecutive quarter, by 3.8 percent year on year in Q2 2015, compared to growth of 14 percent a year earlier.
The NSE – all share index, a broad benchmark of Nigerian stocks (another leading indicator), has returned -14.85 percent year to date, while broad money supply (M2) declined by 0.61 percent in June 2015, below the level at the end of December 2014.
Oil, from which the Nigerian government earns 70 percent of budget revenues, tumbled to a six-and-a-half low of $42per barrel (Pb) last month, 33.9 percent lower than the Q2 average of $63.55pb

Government spending will increase the growth rate - this would encourage the private sector to also invest. Thus government investment could complement private sector investment.

But what do we have? The red texts above will give you us a clue.

Buhari is in power now, but this sorry-state we are was engineered by Jonathan and his "economic team".
Expect reasonable positive growth only at the wake of next year.


The absence of a cabinet and direction for the economy under the new President Muhammadu Buhari may be a factor in the negative indicators.
It has very little or nothing to do with the absense of a cabinet.

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Re: Nigeria May Slide Into Recession As Economic Indicators Flash Red by jaybee3(m): 2:55pm On Sep 07, 2015
ElFenomeno1:


Jaybee read my response to ApexTitan.
While a combination of the above is inclusive of the causative factors for the current quagmire we are enmeshed in, one cant rule out we are already feeling the pangs of recession!

I get what you are saying bro but feeling the pinch of recession isn't exactly the same as being in recession.
Heck quite a lot of people in the UK will be experiencing financial difficulties as wages aren't necessarily catching up with inflation but that hasn't necessarily regressed the growth into recession sphere.

Feeling the pinch is very normal in trying economic times

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Re: Nigeria May Slide Into Recession As Economic Indicators Flash Red by tunde1200(m): 2:57pm On Sep 07, 2015
PassingShot:
If majority of the youths on the forum is a representation of Nigerian youths, the future better not belong to them.

The youths here are mostly semi literate, lazy and have demonstrated lack of capacity for engaging in critical reasoning. All they're after is to engage in socializing and getting rich quick.

Most of them don't even understand what a quarter of a year represents. How do you then engage such unintelligent people on politics and economy?


Yes you are right

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Re: Nigeria May Slide Into Recession As Economic Indicators Flash Red by eaglechild: 3:00pm On Sep 07, 2015
atlwireles:


72 hours after the election result, the market signaled a solid approval of the change. The current malaise and dejection is a realisation, that this administration has no direction. Both monetary and fiscally, only pretenders will close their eyes to this fact.
Thank you!
The economy is directionless.

A big no no for potential investors.

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Re: Nigeria May Slide Into Recession As Economic Indicators Flash Red by baralatie(m): 3:00pm On Sep 07, 2015
otr1:


Government spending will increase the growth rate -



It has very little or nothing to do with the absense of a cabinet.

on the contrary govt actions of not forming a cabinet is a heavy pointer to the economic growth,even from your own comments!
Re: Nigeria May Slide Into Recession As Economic Indicators Flash Red by GenbIoodykiller: 3:05pm On Sep 07, 2015
989900:


You've said zilch m0r0n.

While I firmly would opine that the president gets a grip on the sorry state of the economy in double time, in lieu of excuses ( though sincerely I know he's done a good job so far), but we can only keep him on his toes to get the best out of him with sensible criticism; not some clownish comments.



what's this bastard saying?
Re: Nigeria May Slide Into Recession As Economic Indicators Flash Red by GenbIoodykiller: 3:06pm On Sep 07, 2015
PassingShot:
am a dunce barcanista is my god
grin

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Re: Nigeria May Slide Into Recession As Economic Indicators Flash Red by otr1(m): 3:14pm On Sep 07, 2015
baralatie:


on the contrary govt actions of not forming a cabinet is a heavy pointer to the economic growth,even from your own comments!
Have it in mind that the slow-down in growth has been going on since last year- when we had ministers. It won't stop just because we now have new President, though I think we need ministers now.
Re: Nigeria May Slide Into Recession As Economic Indicators Flash Red by noblegrex: 3:15pm On Sep 07, 2015
PassingShot:
My candid submission:

1. Given the fact that Nigeria for the first time witnessed a real/true change of government (from one party to another), it is expected that economic activities will slow down within the first few months of the new govt as it takes time to formulate a new direction. This fact is more reinforced when one considers the type of economy the new government inherited. It was an economy that the PDP/FG borrowed to pay its workers in March and April of 2015. Had PDP won, they would have continued the borrowing as crude price slides further.

2. Most of the economic performance figures given in this analysis were for the first two quarters of 2015 which are Jan, Feb, March, April, May and June. Of those six months, Jonathan was in charge for five months. So, if any blame is due for apportioning, it is to GEJ's government.

3. There is surely brighter future for Nigeria given that the new government has shown capacity to block avenues for leakages and wastages as seen with past governments. It is such efforts that have increased our foreign reserves from $29 billion left by GEJ (he met $47.7bn) to above $32bn in just after two months of PMB. It's same efforts that have increased states' and federal allocations for two consecutive months in June and July.

4. As we restructure NNPC and look more in other directions such as mining, improved IGR and farming, our dependence on crude oil which has brought this glooming economic picture will reduce in the coming years; and Nigeria shall return to better outlook.

5. With reduced corrupt business environment, investors' confidence will improve and Nigerian economy will soon start to pick up especially with the incoming new cabinet ministers in this month.






You all represent proof of poor education. Waiting for your usual insults. I am immune to them.



exactly,they're just primary shool graduate who doesn't care about there country but only display a share of their ignorance.I wonder how blind they're are n show much of their ignorance

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Re: Nigeria May Slide Into Recession As Economic Indicators Flash Red by baralatie(m): 3:22pm On Sep 07, 2015
otr1:

Have it in mind that the slow-down in growth has been going on since last year- when we had ministers. It won't stop just because we now have new President, though I think we need ministers now.
the slow down was because of the election and it was uncertain if Nigeria could successfully hold a peaceful election.
immediately after the election and the swearing in of the president signalling a fiery time successful transition.the stock market responded positive in its fisrt week.
it only started going slow when the administration did not "sell" itself to investors and remained without a cabinet. it gave investors a second thought that this adminisration was interested in continuing a closed-loop govt economy.
Re: Nigeria May Slide Into Recession As Economic Indicators Flash Red by Mboi: 3:37pm On Sep 07, 2015
PassingShot:
My candid submission:

1. Given the fact that Nigeria for the first time witnessed a real/true change of government (from one party to another), it is expected that economic activities will slow down within the first few months of the new govt as it takes time to formulate a new direction. This fact is more reinforced when one considers the type of economy the new government inherited. It was an economy that the PDP/FG borrowed to pay its workers in March and April of 2015. Had PDP won, they would have continued the borrowing as crude price slides further.

2. Most of the economic performance figures given in this analysis were for the first two quarters of 2015 which are Jan, Feb, March, April, May and June. Of those six months, Jonathan was in charge for five months. So, if any blame is due for apportioning, it is to GEJ's government.

3. There is surely brighter future for Nigeria given that the new government has shown capacity to block avenues for leakages and wastages as seen with past governments. It is such efforts that have increased our foreign reserves from $29 billion left by GEJ (he met $47.7bn) to above $32bn in just after two months of PMB. It's same efforts that have increased states' and federal allocations for two consecutive months in June and July.

4. As we restructure NNPC and look more in other directions such as mining, improved IGR and farming, our dependence on crude oil which has brought this glooming economic picture will reduce in the coming years; and Nigeria shall return to better outlook.

5. With reduced corrupt business environment, investors' confidence will improve and Nigerian economy will soon start to pick up especially with the incoming new cabinet ministers in this month.






You all represent proof of poor education. Waiting for your usual insults. I am immune to them.



Go back to school bro, you need to read.
Re: Nigeria May Slide Into Recession As Economic Indicators Flash Red by otr1(m): 3:49pm On Sep 07, 2015
baralatie:

the slow down was because of the election and it was uncertain if Nigeria could successfully hold a peaceful election.
immediately after the election and the swearing in of the president signalling a fiery time successful transition.the stock market responded positive in its fisrt week.
it only started going slow when the administration did not "sell" itself to investors and remained without a cabinet. it gave investors a second thought that this adminisration was interested in continuing a closed-loop govt economy.
The continued in growth rate after the election up till now is majorly an economic issue.
Investors won't stop investing if profit is guaranteed
Re: Nigeria May Slide Into Recession As Economic Indicators Flash Red by Jesusloveyou: 3:53pm On Sep 07, 2015
WhiteTechnology:
Buhari is this the Change you preached . cool
yes, dis is d change, i want, not that kind of economy where 10 people buy private jet, more corrupt money to throw around, whereby 90% of d populace cannot feel like a human being.

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Re: Nigeria May Slide Into Recession As Economic Indicators Flash Red by Nobody: 3:57pm On Sep 07, 2015
Mr. Body Language, your body odour is sending our Economy to recession. Zenith Bank has fired 1,200 employees already. NNPC fired 3,000.

A man who did not pass WAEC can not be expected to understand Macro Economic Indices.
Re: Nigeria May Slide Into Recession As Economic Indicators Flash Red by baralatie(m): 3:58pm On Sep 07, 2015
otr1:

The continued in growth rate after the election up till now is majorly an economic issue.
Investors won't stop investing if profit is guaranteed
but if investors "sense" a lock down with no means of reclaiming their funds or seeking redress because the govt is looking the other way.investors will seat on autopilot till the govt makes a clear move and formally constitute itself.
and some comments from PMB are not helping each either.
Re: Nigeria May Slide Into Recession As Economic Indicators Flash Red by jaybee3(m): 4:02pm On Sep 07, 2015
BiafranNigerian:
Mr. Body Language, your body odour is sending our Economy to recession. Zenith Bank has fired 1,200 employees already. NNPC fired 3,000.

A man who did not pass WAEC can not be expected to understand Macro Economic Indices.

His job is not to understand macro economic indices. That's largely the job of the CBN governor and there hasn't been any news of Buhari interfering with his job or has he?

If you have to criticize then please do intelligently without sounding like a doofus

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Re: Nigeria May Slide Into Recession As Economic Indicators Flash Red by Jesusloveyou: 4:16pm On Sep 07, 2015
neocortex:


Change that your moniker , only smart people are allowed to use that name.
so in your warped mind, the IMF and the world bank are all voodoo eceomists
who are on jonathan's payroll.

If you continue like this you may end up a complete zombie who can't think for himself.
so because they are in gej payroll make them a good economists

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Re: Nigeria May Slide Into Recession As Economic Indicators Flash Red by 989900: 4:20pm On Sep 07, 2015
GenbIoodykiller:


what's this bastard saying?

Your dilapidated cranium making you go blind too?
Re: Nigeria May Slide Into Recession As Economic Indicators Flash Red by Happiness87(f): 4:29pm On Sep 07, 2015
PassingShot:
If majority of the youths on the forum is a representation of Nigerian youths, the future better not belong to them.

The youths here are mostly semi literate, lazy and have demonstrated lack of capacity for engaging in critical reasoning. All they're after is to engage in socializing and getting rich quick.

Most of them don't even understand what a quarter of a year represents. How do you then engage such unintelligent people on politics and economy?

for your mind you are smart, hahaha blind follower,
Re: Nigeria May Slide Into Recession As Economic Indicators Flash Red by stevecantrell: 4:34pm On Sep 07, 2015
sdindan:
Nigeria indomie generation will start blaming Jonathan
And leave their ministerless presidiot Buhari

You got it backwards, Indomie generation miss GEJ like hell ! In fact, you might even be one of them grin
Re: Nigeria May Slide Into Recession As Economic Indicators Flash Red by otr1(m): 4:35pm On Sep 07, 2015
baralatie:

but if investors "sense" a lock down with no means of reclaiming their funds or seeking redress because the govt is looking the other way.investors will seat on autopilot till the govt makes a clear move and formally constitute itself.
and some comments from PMB are not helping each either.
Only investors that are there as charities.
The fall in investment is due mostly to the fall in demand.

This people don't care if the devil is the president, so far they're making profits.
Investors will always find a way round even if the government makes a policy counter-productive to their businesses- which I doubt this government will do.
Come to think of it, which moves are they waiting for and how will it affect their earnings?
Re: Nigeria May Slide Into Recession As Economic Indicators Flash Red by Gbawe: 4:35pm On Sep 07, 2015
PassingShot:
My candid submission:

1. Given the fact that Nigeria for the first time witnessed a real/true change of government (from one party to another), it is expected that economic activities will slow down within the first few months of the new govt as it takes time to formulate a new direction. This fact is more reinforced when one considers the type of economy the new government inherited. It was an economy that the PDP/FG borrowed to pay its workers in March and April of 2015. Had PDP won, they would have continued the borrowing as crude price slides further.

2. Most of the economic performance figures given in this analysis were for the first two quarters of 2015 which are Jan, Feb, March, April, May and June. Of those six months, Jonathan was in charge for five months. So, if any blame is due for apportioning, it is to GEJ's government.

3. There is surely brighter future for Nigeria given that the new government has shown capacity to block avenues for leakages and wastages as seen with past governments. It is such efforts that have increased our foreign reserves from $29 billion left by GEJ (he met $47.7bn) to above $32bn in just after two months of PMB. It's same efforts that have increased states' and federal allocations for two consecutive months in June and July.

4. As we restructure NNPC and look more in other directions such as mining, improved IGR and farming, our dependence on crude oil which has brought this glooming economic picture will reduce in the coming years; and Nigeria shall return to better outlook.

5. With reduced corrupt business environment, investors' confidence will improve and Nigerian economy will soon start to pick up especially with the incoming new cabinet ministers in this month.






You all represent proof of poor education. Waiting for your usual insults. I am immune to them.




Well-said. What some will not acknowledge, because they love to hate Nigeria and the thought she may actually make progress and become great, is that Buhari did not take charge of a proper Country as some of us know an efficient Country to be. Buhari took over an "arrangee" geographical zone where a bunch of common criminals and political opportunists, posing as "leader", perverted every process and warped every sector possible to loot and plunder Nigeria cynically. This is what Buhari has to repair and reverse. Anyone who is truly and passionately Nigerian, 100% and without any saboteur intention, will realise what Buhari must achieve and why he must be supported.

For example, we have a nation where the parastatal that control our biggest asset, crude oil, was turned into a giant scamming machine by the PDP since 1999. What could be worse than that as far as the concept of leaders creating all the problems they should be providing solutions for? The same PDP ensured our refineries were deliberately sabotaged so that a sophisticated and highly opaque fuel subsidy scam system could be put in place to literally cheat Nigeria of billions of dollars.It is the same in every sector. Aviation is a man-made mess. SME sector is comatose due to neglect and under-investment. Health is basically about throwing a dice in Nigeria i.e live or die with death probably more certain if one is seeking treatment for a serious ailment. The lazy PDP, full of crooks and scammers, ensured the Nigerian economy is not as robust, independent and diversified enough to provide more jobs and prosperity for Nigerians. The PDP could not even create an enabling environment for the commercial mining of valuable mineral resources. The process of awarding contract, very important to infrastructural development, is so bastardized that nothing can be expected to work as it should.

A newly constructed road would need renewing within three months in Nigeria, whereas new roads in sane nation perform well for more than 5-10 years, because the Nigerian politician has awarded the contract to his cousin who is a butcher by profession and not a road builder. All this at a time when oil is now selling around $45.00 per barrel when a totally corrupt PDP never put 'buffers' in place while oil sold for over $100.00 for a long period of time. If most Nigerians are morally upright then they would get behind Buhari instead of attempting to taunt a decent and focused President over the problems caused by wicked, grossly corrupt and demonic wasters posing as "leaders" like GEJ, Allison-Madueke, Orubebe, Obanikoro, Adesiyan et al.

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Re: Nigeria May Slide Into Recession As Economic Indicators Flash Red by baralatie(m): 4:41pm On Sep 07, 2015
otr1:

Only investors that are there as charities.(which they are not)

This people don't care if the devil (investors care about devils touching their money)

Investors will always find a way round even if the government makes a policy counter-productive to their businesses- which I doubt this government will do.
and the above my guy is why investors are doing sit down look to Nigeria economy.
"PMB moves,they move"
"PMB does not move,they find a solution to their money cravings"
Re: Nigeria May Slide Into Recession As Economic Indicators Flash Red by stevecantrell: 5:02pm On Sep 07, 2015
otr1:

Have it in mind that the slow-down in growth has been going on since last year- when we had ministers. It won't stop just because we now have new President, though I think we need ministers now.

That's right
Re: Nigeria May Slide Into Recession As Economic Indicators Flash Red by tivta(m): 5:08pm On Sep 07, 2015
PassingShot:

He was described in the book to be an effective and very convincing orator.
You can tell that to the gullible folks, I know him to be a good brain washer...
Re: Nigeria May Slide Into Recession As Economic Indicators Flash Red by GenbIoodykiller: 5:18pm On Sep 07, 2015
989900:


Your dilapidated cranium making you go blind too?

otu nne i grin
Re: Nigeria May Slide Into Recession As Economic Indicators Flash Red by Happiness87(f): 5:24pm On Sep 07, 2015
PassingShot:
My candid submission:

1. Given the fact that Nigeria for the first time witnessed a real/true change of government (from one party to another), it is expected that economic activities will slow down within the first few months of the new govt as it takes time to formulate a new direction. This fact is more reinforced when one considers the type of economy the new government inherited. It was an economy that the PDP/FG borrowed to pay its workers in March and April of 2015. Had PDP won, they would have continued the borrowing as crude price slides further.
Because there was change of government at the center warrants the economy to crumble, see your brain needs rebooting is Nigeria the first country that another party took over??

2. Most of the economic performance figures given in this analysis were for the first two quarters of 2015 which are Jan, Feb, March, April, May and June. Of those six months, Jonathan was in charge for five months. So, if any blame is due for apportioning, it is to GEJ's government.
Does it occur to you that uncertainties during elections and perceived violence after election counted for the poor performance

3. There is surely brighter future for Nigeria given that the new government has shown capacity to block avenues for leakages and wastages as seen with past governments. It is such efforts that have increased our foreign reserves from $29 billion left by GEJ (he met $47.7bn) to above $32bn in just after two months of PMB. It's same efforts that have increased states' and federal allocations for two consecutive months in June and July.
It is a pity how you are quick to defend to boos, instead of using your brain to reason squarely
1. Does it occur to you that uncertainties during elections and perceived violence after election counted for the poor performance.
2. Does it occur to you that after march elections that

4. As we restructure NNPC and look more in other directions such as mining, improved IGR and farming, our dependence on crude oil which has brought this glooming economic picture will reduce in the coming years; and Nigeria shall return to better outlook.
are you now the economic minister, or the spokesman to presidency, to make such emphatic statement.

5. With reduced corrupt business environment, investors' confidence will improve and Nigerian economy will soon start to pick up especially with the incoming new cabinet ministers in this month.
lol, for your information , dont expect ministers till October, the national assembly is on recess. Also note that corruption has nothing to do with investment, did corruption stop automobile companies from coming into the country in the last 12months, did corruption stop Dangote from expanding his business in Nigeria and many others.
listen here young man, what will bring investors into the country is sound economic policies that are beneficial to the investors.

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Re: Nigeria May Slide Into Recession As Economic Indicators Flash Red by free13: 5:25pm On Sep 07, 2015
Hmm.
Re: Nigeria May Slide Into Recession As Economic Indicators Flash Red by LouisVanGaal(m): 5:27pm On Sep 07, 2015
neocortex:


Change that your moniker , only smart people are allowed to use that name.
so in your warped mind, the IMF and the world bank are all voodoo eceomists
who are on jonathan's payroll.

If you continue like this you may end up a complete zombie who can't think for himself.
*Ignored*

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