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Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by segzy3: 11:15am On Mar 23, 2017
brosiye99:
@segzy3: Calm down. I have a business interest in this payment that is why i am following the information keenly. From what i am hearing, disengaged staff from (2006 - upwards) who have not reached 10 years in service as at time of disengagement will not get any pension. Please verify and inform people here. That is the normal rule on the old pension scheme. They are not entitled to it. They are only entitled to the gratuity and pay off which has already been paid at the time of disengagement. Though i understand this category of staff also have a legal case they are pursuing on it.
On the other issue, there will be no arrears to be paid for now. I am sure of that. The arrears are too massive that the leaders(union and Halita Aliyu group) were advised by PTAD, Ministry of Budget, etc to scale it down such that they will be added to the yearly pension budget payroll then arrears can be settled bit by bit when government finances improves. They agreed and this is why it was added in the budget. Hope you know that the pensions for one year is about 9 billion naira for NITEL alone not adding Airways and the others.
Still nothing of such agreement was reached with the leaders to scale down until finances improve.u may try and crosscheck with them
Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by brosiye99(m): 11:28am On Mar 23, 2017
@segzy3: Thank you very much. You appear to be very close to the major details. Are you saying they will pay them all the outstanding pension arrears? That may amount to nearly 50 Billion for Nitel alone. If that happens, na me go happy pass. Knowing how the economy is tight, i am reasoning that government may not want to pay all at once or just pay a part of the arrears. Let's wait and see. i think for the benefit of the group, let's find out more information and post accordingly. Nice one.
Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by BlakKluKluxKlan(m): 1:50pm On Mar 23, 2017
brosiye99:
My source is from within the DG PTAD's office. They are currently soon coming to North Central soon to conclude the zonal verification for civil servants. Cuurently, the PTAD is preparing modalities on verification of the Parastatal Pensioners (Nitel, Airways and others). It may not be done zonally but probably abuja, lagos and portharcourt. A meeting will soon be called with the senior Nitel retirees in Abuja(e.g Halita Aliyu) to work out these modalities.



Please how does this planned meeting with senior Nitel retirees and subsequent verification affect/involve DISENGAGED staff ?
Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by BlakKluKluxKlan(m): 1:54pm On Mar 23, 2017
brosiye99:
@blackkukluxklan: we are different people. @Segzy3 quoted me. look through the writing and note where he quoted me.


Yeah, its noted, thanks.
Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by Ancientdeb123: 2:16pm On Mar 23, 2017
Segzy3 said verification will start next month dat is april & will end june. How on earth will a single parastal last for 3 month, wen verification usually last for 3 weeks only
Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by Sanni45(m): 3:15pm On Mar 23, 2017
Big tanks to all dat have kept dis thread alive up until now...@Segzy3 @@blackkukluxklan @brosiye99 @Ancientdeb123 and others.Reading beyond d msgs u posted u all want this payment to b made n by God's grace in no time we all will b posting msgs of appreciation 2 God on this thread.We are all on d same side.Let's share info n don't let's flex muscle here.I can see light @ d end of d tunnel atlast.Tanks once again.

P.s Lagos zonal meeting comes up next Tuesday,28th March.
Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by brosiye99(m): 3:43pm On Mar 23, 2017
BlakKluKluxKlan:




Please how does this planned meeting with senior Nitel retirees and subsequent verification affect/involve DISENGAGED staff ?

The pensioners to be verified are many. nitel alone is over 16,000. airways should be up to 3,000. in all you may be talking of over 25,000 people to be verified for paratatals. To make it faster will mean ptad will have to deploy more staff which they may not have budgetted for.
Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by segzy3: 3:45pm On Mar 23, 2017
Ancientdeb123:
Segzy3 said verification will start next month dat is april & will end june. How on earth will a single parastal last for 3 month, wen verification usually last for 3 weeks only
Your info is not correct about CBN and lawyer and there is nothing suggesting bpe will handle nitels payment (quote me anywhere). PTAD is solely responsible for the payment. And by the way which lawyer are u talking about,falana or another lawyer? May be there is another lawyer for disengaged staff cos it is femi falana for pensioners and last year he advised motel pensioners to settle out of court.there is only one supreme court in Nigeria and may take ages before motels case is heard.also then they were bothered with election cases. Yes I said hopefully it will start next month immediately after the completion of core civil servant verification which is entering the last phase.April consist of 30days,I did not say it will start April 1,also they are experiencing paucity of fund and that is y they have not been able to carry out the ongoing exercise simultaneously but the union were told they intend to conclude the verification latest by June and hopefully when the budget is passed during this period it will be done almost the same time across all zones I.e swest,southsouth etc.I did not tell u it will take 3months.quote me anywhere this is info of 2wks ago from PTAD .again on the info u get from your lawyer and cbn ,100% false.

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Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by segzy3: 4:08pm On Mar 23, 2017
brosiye99:


The pensioners to be verified are many. nitel alone is over 16,000. airways should be up to 3,000. in all you may be talking of over 25,000 people to be verified for paratatals. To make it faster will mean ptad will have to deploy more staff which they may not have budgetted for.
Nitel is 16000(disengaged and pensioners),,if anything doesn't change every one will be paid.all calculations has been done at abuja with ministry of finance with nitel delegate.the money is already in 2017 budget. The issue @brosiye33 raised was discussed last year about the money so huge and that was y we were told to wait for this year budget when provision will have been made for it.endeavor to always get information from nitel representatives in abuja.not somebody told me this or that.nitel people na wa o.we will have course to smile this year.we have been told not to comment here again cos of the wrong info people put here.all is well

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Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by BlakKluKluxKlan(m): 5:05pm On Mar 23, 2017
brosiye99:


The pensioners to be verified are many. nitel alone is over 16,000. airways should be up to 3,000. in all you may be talking of over 25,000 people to be verified for paratatals. To make it faster will mean ptad will have to deploy more staff which they may not have budgetted for.


I see. Thanks for your efforts. From your post i deduced the fact that the prevailing circumstances have gone beyond categorisation of pensioners and disengaged but are all viewed as Nitel pensioners.
I appreciate you and shall look forward to reading more credible info from you as events unfold.
Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by sonya4all(m): 5:11pm On Mar 23, 2017
permit me to ask about cases of diseased disengaged staff, pls let's know
Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by Ancientdeb123: 5:28pm On Mar 23, 2017
Segzy 3: i don't know wen falana won nitel's case cause d lawyer dat won ur case schooled in uk if u do not know & i think u shuld read the function of ptad b4 condeming anybody.u said ptad is in charge of nitel who said that. Apart frm dat i have never had dat ptad is in charge of bulk payment of pensioners. Becos i said ur moni will be paid early it has caused anger cos am not a nitel staff but my friend is so i think i shuld have said ur moni will be paid december so as 2 make u hapi. Am out of dis group but it is better 2 verify b4 giving out info.
Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by brosiye99(m): 6:24pm On Mar 23, 2017
sonya4all:
permit me to ask about cases of diseased disengaged staff, pls let's know

As for deceased staff, whether pensioner or disengaged, Pension payment stops at death. So under the old scheme(defined benefits scheme) which Nitel pension is based, once you die, your pension stops. It is only under the reformed pension Act that your dependants can draw from the pension when you die.
Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by brosiye99(m): 6:30pm On Mar 23, 2017
segzy3:

Nitel is 16000(disengaged and pensioners),,if anything doesn't change every one will be paid.all calculations has been done at abuja with ministry of finance with nitel delegate.the money is already in 2017 budget. The issue @brosiye33 raised was discussed last year about the money so huge and that was y we were told to wait for this year budget when provision will have been made for it.endeavor to always get information from nitel representatives in abuja.not somebody told me this or that.nitel people na wa o.we will have course to smile this year.we have been told not to comment here again cos of the wrong info people put here.all is well

Please permit me to ask; will the payments take care of the arrears or just for one year? Cos I was told that this incoming payment is one year, then the future pension will be added to yearly budgets as they normally do for the normal civil servants.
Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by brosiye99(m): 6:40pm On Mar 23, 2017
Ancientdeb123:
Segzy 3: i don't know wen falana won nitel's case cause d lawyer dat won ur case schooled in uk if u do not know & i think u shuld read the function of ptad b4 condeming anybody.u said ptad is in charge of nitel who said that. Apart frm dat i have never had dat ptad is in charge of bulk payment of pensioners. Becos i said ur moni will be paid early it has caused anger cos am not a nitel staff but my friend is so i think i shuld have said ur moni will be paid december so as 2 make u hapi. Am out of dis group but it is better 2 verify b4 giving out info.

Segzy3 is correct on Falana. The issue is Nitel staff have many cases regarding their retirement/disengagement. Falana was handling the main Case with supreme court on pensions and he advised on out of court and or political settlement. Recall that federal high court ruled 2012 that nitel pensioners are entitled to pension for life. However the wicked BPE went to court of appeal and appealed the judgement. They manipulated the case with 'political' influences and court of appeal nullified the Federal High court judgement. Hence the case had to go to supreme court.
Also PTAD is in charge of clearing pension payments under the old defined benefits scheme. That is the function of PTAD. I even checked their website. You can do so too and be informed. information is power.
Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by segzy3: 7:53pm On Mar 23, 2017
Ancientdeb123:
Segzy 3: i don't know wen falana won nitel's case cause d lawyer dat won ur case schooled in uk if u do not know & i think u shuld read the function of ptad b4 condeming anybody.u said ptad is in charge of nitel who said that. Apart frm dat i have never had dat ptad is in charge of bulk payment of pensioners. Becos i said ur moni will be paid early it has caused anger cos am not a nitel staff but my friend is so i think i shuld have said ur moni will be paid december so as 2 make u hapi. Am out of dis group but it is better 2 verify b4 giving out info.
so u are not a nitel staff, for your info the case has been withdrawn from the lawyer that lost at the appeal court
Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by segzy3: 8:02pm On Mar 23, 2017
brosiye99:


Please permit me to ask; will the payments take care of the arrears or just for one year? Cos I was told that this incoming payment is one year, then the future pension will be added to yearly budgets as they normally do for the normal civil servants.
I think they agreed on 5years +arears but I will find out and get back.if the payment will be spread halita will be aware but he did not mention anything of such.they were at PTAD office twice last month.

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Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by brosiye99(m): 8:38pm On Mar 23, 2017
segzy3:
I think they agreed on 5years +arears but I will find out and get back.if the payment will be spread halita will be aware but he did not mention anything of such.they were at PTAD office twice last month.

Thank you for the prompt response. Will be good to hear from you if you get the update and confirmation on the exact number of years/arrears.
Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by adegoks1234(m): 9:01pm On Mar 24, 2017
brosiye99:


As for deceased staff, whether pensioner or disengaged, Pension payment stops at death. So under the old scheme(defined benefits scheme) which Nitel pension is based, once you die, your pension stops. It is only under the reformed pension Act that your dependants can draw from the pension when you die.
So, what payment arrangements would be made for them considering none of them have been paid pensions. Would the arrears be calculated from date of disengagement till death?
Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by Missonas(f): 11:05pm On Mar 24, 2017
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Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by BlakKluKluxKlan(m): 1:51pm On Mar 27, 2017
Okay.
Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by BlakKluKluxKlan(m): 2:29pm On Mar 27, 2017
Ancientdeb123:
Wen nepa did their verification it was d bpe dat was in charge not ptad. On nitel the cbn at january told d lawyer & nitel union president dat they were processing 2 ensure accuracy with d names &amount 2 be paid 2 each person & as at march 20th the cbn said dey shuld come for verification date on wednesday & the retired nitel staff will be paid pension while disengaged staff will be given bulk amount of their money


Hello. Please do you have any update concerning this information yet ?
Cheers and be blessed.
Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by BlakKluKluxKlan(m): 6:46pm On Mar 28, 2017
Please does anyone has any credible update to share ?
Thanks.
Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by segzy3: 5:59am On Mar 30, 2017
BlakKluKluxKlan:
Please does anyone has any credible update to share ?
Thanks.
I thought u are relying on non nitel staff for inaccurate information. Has CBN given them verification date on 20th?there is an update just yesterday but is better u get it from your trusted source
Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by BlakKluKluxKlan(m): 12:59pm On Mar 30, 2017
segzy3:
I thought u are relying on non nitel staff for inaccurate information. Has CBN given them verification date on 20th?there is an update just yesterday but is better u get it from your trusted source


Lol ! Ain't you funny ?
No, i did not believe him but didn't want to highlight the falacy in the info - how could they be there on monday and then asked to come back just two days later only to collect verification date ? I took it with a pinch of salt also.
Thanks.
Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by BlakKluKluxKlan(m): 7:54pm On Mar 30, 2017
segwzy3:
I thought u are relying on non nitel staff for inaccurate information. Has CBN given them verification date on 20th?there is an update just yesterday but is better u get it from your trusted source


So, how about sharing the update or would you rather share it in private ?
Please oblige for good comradeship.
Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by segzy3: 8:03am On Mar 31, 2017
PTAD invited nitel and 8 other parastatal 4days ago and were told to produce 2representative each.moderlity to carry out the verification exercise to be discussed. Details later

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Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by brosiye99(m): 9:43am On Mar 31, 2017
@segzy3: You are really up to date. Nice one. I heard the same thing too. Thank you for updating us. There is light at the end of the tunnel at last
Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by BlakKluKluxKlan(m): 2:35pm On Mar 31, 2017
@segzy3, thanks for obliging the info. I appreciate. I trust @brosiye99 to pay keen interest due to his business interests.
Cheers all.
Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by BlakKluKluxKlan(m): 1:24pm On Apr 06, 2017
Good day folks. Where are our credible colleagues on this forum . Please come share your updates with us, thanks.

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Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by BermudaTriangle(m): 3:50pm On Apr 06, 2017
Hello elders, please any latest or credible info ?
Please share if any.
Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by buddydway: 8:41pm On Apr 10, 2017
Pls is there any update on disengaged nitel casual staff as I thought gov't has already approved payment for some of us that are yet to be played our entitlement. Any info on this will be highly appropriated. Tnx

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