Dr. Lorenz:

Well his 'portfolio' seems very impressive.

But i agree with you nolongTing there's no need blasting them. All he needs to do is prove himself globally and the rest should take care of itself.

But come o, nolongTing, don't you think we're talking to the same person? I mean the poster?

lord_Nebu:

Man how do u proof urself on a global level when u cant even start at home, If our guy is to actually go and proof himself then he will have to move outside by the time he sells his idea to the locals there, then he will come back home now as an outsider and start selling his idea to us as an outsider by then his HQ will be outside , this will lead to the same crude oil senario, drill crude oil at home but import petrol from outside, so man the guy not only him but we all suppose blast our banks, and home based firms, Leave the indians they need to be arround to make the competition more interesting, atleast the indians started somewhere (which is home) before coming to naija and climbing the global ladder

nolongTing:

You have asked a question and answered it yourself, but there is one problem? Your answer is wrong! The indians did not start at home they learnt everything in the west (England, U.S), then took their skills back to India and developed the market their. Infact they are still learning in the west today.

Afam:

The content in bold refers, I disagree with the assertion because you do not have to learn about technology in the West.

nolongTing:

You are barking up the wrong tree, I merely stated a FACT, no more no less - you wrongly assumed that I said the west is superior and all Nigerians should learn from them.

Afam:

Could you please read and understand my post before jumping into conclusions based on misunderstood premises?

Your understanding of my assumption is to say the least wrong.

Afam:

[size=18pt]Sorry oo, it is obvious this is a comprehension limited problem. [/size]Take care. I understand how people feel when their positions are genuinely challenged as many of us usually believe that we know it all and have nothing to learn.

nolongTing:
So yes, we have all the potential now! we are as good as any nation when it comes to intellect and brains so we need to rise up and use our creativity and talent to overcome our problems. Hope thats clear now

Afam:

Guy, it seems that you are consistently inconsistent. Why speaking from both sides of your mouth now?

Before you turn the issue into a personality issue I will not bother responding to your post if it does not add any value to the issue on board.

Enjoy the weekend.

mydevbox:

nolongTing:
Your abusive response was really unwarranted

Dis Guy:

enohj2ee, there's a typo on your CV-- _{He is an has many years experience in Java J2ee/J2me/ Java Cards}

nolongTing:

There's no point in blasting them, all he needs to do is go out and prove himself on a global level, otherwise he's just a winging, paper tiger.

Dis Guy:

it's just a typo

but i understand what you are saying about the CV, I was thinking the same too, it's a bit too watery
sounds like an MC introducing you to the 'high table' with a list of this and that,

On the other hand nigerian software developers should not limit themselves to nigeria alone and should
watch out for partnership, at the end of the day the consumer wont care too much about the nationality of the software

nolongTing:

Are you sure you are not Afam logging in as somebody else? Afam's post was abusive so I responded - 'every action has a reaction' so if you are not Afam mind your own business.

The indians did not start at home they learnt everything in the west (England, U.S), then took their skills back to India and developed the market their.

Afam:

The content in bold refers, I disagree with the assertion because you do not have to learn about technology in the West.

Information is everywhere but the problem is that we do not invest in knowledge acquisition, we do not challenge ourselves enough to introduce new things, we are not daring enough to take up challenges that would help expand our knowledge or skill set even when the terrain is new.

Put differently, we should be honest enough to accept responsibility of what we know and what we don't know. We should be ready and willing to learn new things or better ways of doing what we currently know how to do.

The Japanese and the Asians in general are way far ahead in phone technology especially mobile phones when compared to the US but people would generally believe that the US is ahead in this area.

Knowledge is out there for any interested person to grab.

However, there is a world of difference between knowledge acquisition and application of that knowledge.

For example, I see no reason why our computer/software engineers cannot develop very useful software that could be used even in our businesses, schools or hospitals.

I see no reason why a lot of important inverters with poor charging algorithms should be flooding the Nigerian market when we have Electrical/Electronics students graduating from our universities every year.

nolongTing:

You are barking up the wrong tree, I merely stated a FACT, no more no less - you wrongly assumed that I said the west is superior and all Nigerians should learn from them.

Afam:

Guy, it seems that you are consistently inconsistent. Why speaking from both sides of your mouth now?

Before you turn the issue into a personality issue I will not bother responding to your post if it does not add any value to the issue on board.

Enjoy the weekend.

nolongTing:


I have more skills and experience than you can ever dream of, believe me I have checked your site and in my circle you would be laughed out of existence. 

Afam:

I get to read this from people once in a while but in reality people who brag this way have nothing to show. Unless you build the applications and hide them in your cupboard I feel the best way to demonstrate your skills or what you have done is to show it otherwise anyone can come here and claim that the owner of google pays him consultancy fees for the work being done at google.

The likes of google, yahoo, microsoft, youtube etc are available for the world to see. So, show the world what you have done and stop claiming to be an expert who develop applications on pubic discussion forums.

So, you can have all the skills and all the experience in the world the reality is that unless you can apply it where people can see it and use it you are will remain a non starter.

By the way your lame attempt at proving that I insulted you leaves much to be desired.

Why bring in comments from the middle of the exchanges and not at the beginning?

The issue remains how Nigerians can develop software or applications and your statement that the Indians learnt everything from the West (US and UK) remains my major point of disagreement and will remain so because the statement is not only a lie but ridiculous and plain stupid based on total ignorance.

Prove to anyone that the statement is correct, that is all you need to do.

Having Indians go to school in the West does not amount to the ridiculous claim you made that you cannot even defend.

So, I guess the issue in contention is clear but of course if introducing diversions and bringing up insults are your style then continue.

I don't know you and so have no reason to be against you or insult you but like you believe every action deserves a reaction, only this time you are not bold enough to appreciate who started making offensive comments on this thread.

I disagreed with the statement and the statement remains the core issue.

nolongTing:

I will use this as an opportunity to advertise my services:  http://www.w3developer.co.uk/Default.aspx

Afam:

Na wah ooo.

Just a few comments
1. This is 2009, you may need to update your copyright notice

Afam:


2. Your contact page does not have a title (this is web design 101 issue)

Afam:


3. You may need to provide links to the 5 websites displayed on the portfolio page

Afam:


4. Contact page has no useful information that any serious minded person would need to know before committing funds for any project as the site owner can easily disappear after collecting money. In fact, serious organizations won't even come near you for projects based on this alone.

Afam:

NB: All the content above is based on the assumption that the website actually belongs to the person claiming the website as his. I did not see any reference to nolongTing on the website.

Afam:

Consider the comments above as honest inputs to make you a better website designer.

In conclusion, human beings have a way of believing that whatever they do is better than others and such mindsets sometimes push them to praise themselves to high heavens and in the process dismiss others even when they are deficient in basic skills.

Now that you have showed us what you can do I will respectfully tell you to spend more time on learning web development than on bragging and insulting others.

mydevbox:

It appears the post has been taken out of context. The bulk of what has followed has just been claptraps.

@nolongTing
Thot u were some web design god or holy code ninja haven read your post on experience? For me nothing impressive about your web profile. All i see from you is sheer exhibition of hubris.

nolongTing:

@Afam, now you're tone has changed! You have been knocked out with excellence!

nolongTing:

No, no, no because my work has been stolen in the past; I show my clients the FULL working version on my new MacBook Pro laptop

nolongTing:

@mydevbo Do you think that your comments are within the context of this thread? lets see your work @mydevbox (  @mydevbox= @Afam ).

nolongTing:

I can see what the problem is:  45 years old + making peanuts + no skills + jealous + no education = BITTER Agbaya!