dolphinheart:

the person who is with someone cannot be the same person with the one he is with!.

dolphinheart:


moreover , God does not have a beginning!

dolphinheart:


I can see you are much confused with the use of capital letters when theo's is being translated to English.

dolphinheart:

LIES!, Paul never said " God was manifest in flesh", it was those who were desperately trying to alter what Paul said so as to find support for their false doctrines that made those changes to later manuscripts, they had been discovered and found to be false!.


It seems Paul now knows how to speak English abi?, brocab, go and study, go and check if the Greek word for God can be found in the oldest most reliable manuscripts , go and study how it was discovered that the word for "he" had been altered.

Barristter07:



dont mind those 419's , if truly brocab believe the statement God was manifest in flesh . what stops him from accepting Mary as the mother of God ? Or is it not God that was manifest in the flesh that Mary gave birth to ?

dolphinheart:

I know sincerity is not in you,

dolphinheart:

when you read the scriptures , do you try to understand what you read or you are just looking for words that support your beliefs, the person talking called jesus God and in the same breath called himself the God of jesus? how far has the search of words affected your understanding of what is being said.

brocab:
Well Mary is the Mother of Jesus-the same Son that's written in {Isaiah 9:6} For a Child is born-a Son is given, and the Government shall be upon His shoulder, He shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The Mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of peace.
Jesus the everlasting Father and the Mighty God-is Mary's Son.

johnw74:


lie lie barristter

I assume you read my post, and then you ask what is my argument,
read it again oh blinded one

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

johnw74:



mendacious dolphinheart

As I said yesterday, it's easy to belong to the jehovahs witnesses sect,
you just don't believe the Bible and change what it says.
That's what you did here and what you do all the time antichrist dolphinheart.

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.


And of course you cannot believe or understand such truths without God in you,
such truths as God and the Word being God are foolishness to you.

1Co_2:14  But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Barristter07:



dont mind those 419's , if truly brocab believe the statement God was manifest in flesh . what stops him from accepting Mary as the mother of God ? Or is it not God that was manifest in the flesh that Mary gave birth to ?

Jozzy4:


His question is too hard for you to comprehend, , he asked for the focus of your argument, . am sure u dont have focus , you are just busy showing the world u lack knowledge

Jozzy4:



You lack knowledge, answer : Can theos be translated as " a god " , Yes or No ?

Jozzy4:



Oga, dont change the topic ... He was asking that since it was God that manifest in FLESH as u argue, then what do u call the woman that give birth to God in flesh ? Why not accept he is the mother of God ?

johnw74:


brocab answer was a good one, and way over your head jozzy dum


God the Word became man, Mary became the Mother of that man Jesus Christ
Mary is not the mother of the Word of God who was with God in the beginning
two persons one God, look back through my posts dum, it's all there

you jozzy dum could not possibly know or understand anything of the spirit

johnw74:


duh, of course theos can mean a god,

Jozzy4:
J


Kikikkkikkk, this shallow guy

@ bold , Jesus is just a man when on earth ?

Jozzy4:


Correct, now shut your mouth.

Jozzy4:


Correct, now shut your mouth.

Barristter07:



ko gbenu e soun . mi o le rerin oooo


You have exposed the guys flawed knowledge.

Barristter07:



ko gbenu e soun . mi o le rerin oooo

You have exposed the guys flawed knowledge.

johnw74:





Really, the world is reading this, wow, you and a/c dolphinheart are certinally off one mind,
pity the mind belongs to satan.

duh, of course theos can mean a god , [but not in John 1:1
go back and read my posts oh jozzy dum
I'm not repeating myself for one with no understanding

jozzy dum say's someone lacks knowledge

Barristter07:


BOOKMARKED

brocab:
To be honest it doesn't matter-the names not important-its just a name used-what is more important is getting to know God-like I have said bibles have been corrected since the seven hybrid names were written in the KJV, it must be some kind of a joke to only find seven names in the entire hole bible, which doesn't make a difference at all-we all know the name-as YHWH Yahweh or Lord and God.

Every time I see Jehovah written I think of Jesus. knowing Lord means Jehovah.

The name Jehovah came from a Spanish Dominican Monk Raymundus Martini around 1278 who then wrote the Latin work PUGIO FIDE.
A small dose of Jehovah was used not only in the KJV 1611-but it was also used in the Spanish Valera in 1602-The portugese ALMEIDA version of 1681-And German ELBERFELDER in 1871-And the American Standard version in 1901-But it appears that the Jerusalem Bible was the first one to use "YAHWEH" Instead of Lord and Jehovah. They didn't dare to take His name in vain {Deuteronomy 5:11} You shall not take the Lord your God the name in vain, for the Lord will hold him guiltless who takes his name in vain.

The early Jews didn't dare to say His name for fear of taken it in vain, they didn't even write it, but today we find God's name used in every conceivable way.

Most Christians would not think of cursing by using God's name, but yet the JW's still take His name in vain.

So now we are going back the the basis, we either follow after the Jews and call His name God or we call His name Lord "YAHWEH" Or we listen to the JW's and take His name in Vain?[/color]
follow the scriptures brocab, follow what the scriptures teaches you, follow the example of Faithfull servants of God who used God's name. follow God himself who wanted his name known. Don't follow the Jews whose actions was later condemned by jesus.

calling on God's name is not taken his name in vain, faithful servants of God call on God's name all the time, and they recorded how they did it. substituting God's name will not help.

[quote]Lets read and see for ourselves and read some past history below.
Yahweh the God of the Israelite's, His name being revealed to Moses, as four Hebrew CONSONANTS {YHWH} CALLED THE TELREGRAMMATION AFTER THE EXILE {6TH CENTURY BC} and especially from the 3rd century BC on, Jews cease to use the name "YAHWEH" for two reasons. As Judaism became an universal religion through its proselytizing in the Greco Roman world.

The more common noun "ELOHIM" meaning "God" tenders to replace "YAHWEH" to demonstrate the universality sovereignty of Israels "God" all over the others.
At the same time the Divine name was increasingly regarded as to sacred to be uttered, it was thus replaced vocally in the synagogue ritual by the Hebrew word "ADONAI" {MY LORD} Which was translated to "KYNOS" {LORD} in the septuagint, the Greek work of the Old Testament.

The Masoretes, who about from the 8th to the 10th century. worked to reproduce the original text of the Hebrew bible, replaced the vowels of the name 'YHWH" with the vowel signs of the Hebrew word "ADONAI" {Lord editor} Or "ELOHIM" {God editor} {Thus the artificial name Jehovah} "YeHoWaH"{Emphasis ours,ed} Come in to being. Although Christian Scholars after the renaissance and the reformation periods used the term Jehovah for "YHWH" In the 19th and 20th centuries biblical scholars again began to use the form "YAHWEH" Early Christian writers, such as Clement of Alexandria in the second century, had used a form like "YAHWEH" and this pronunciation of the Telragrammation was never really lost.
Other Greek transcription also indicated that "YHWH" should be pronounced "YAHWEH"

brocab:
I can't really understand you-matter of fact I don't believe you understand yourself?
You strongly believe Jehovah is the rightful name for God in the KJV, but yet you refuse God was manifest in the flesh in the same KJV.
One Word is as good as another..

Jehovah to me is just a name used for God-its like El, Elohim, and every other name people would like to call Him-God will always be Lord, this is the proper way to address our creator.

So really you are acting as a hypocrite. Really Dolphinheart You come back with the silliest answers, everyone who speaks the truth of God-is inspired by God..{Every Christian knows that. I did say Christian"}
It is either English or Greek or Hebrew God speaks all languages, and there is always a interpreter.
Paul didn't call God Jehovah in English-nor in his own language, but a Spanish Monk in 1278 called Jehovah God's name.
Do you agree?

Most Christians would not think of cursing by using God's name, but yet the JW's still take His name in vain.

dolphinheart:



Give an example , liar!

Barristter07:



dont mind those 419's , if truly brocab believe the statement God was manifest in flesh . what stops him from accepting Mary as the mother of God ? Or is it not God that was manifest in the flesh that Mary gave birth to ?

Barristter07:



ko gbenu e soun . mi o le rerin oooo

You have exposed the guys flawed knowledge.

dolphinheart:


read rev 1: 1-6
If you had read those verses, you would have known that is was not Jesus that was talking in Rev 1: 8, it was God the almighty, who gave Jesus the revelation.

Barristter07:



dont mind those 419's , if truly brocab believe the statement God was manifest in flesh . what stops him from accepting Mary as the mother of God ? Or is it not God that was manifest in the flesh that Mary gave birth to ?