johnw74:
lie lie dolphinheart

you should re read your posts, but then you would be blinded to all of your confusion everywhere


you say some of "the first and last verses" are Jesus talking because He was the first resurrected
and you say some of the Alpha Omega verses are Father God talking


Here Jesus say's He is the first and last:
Rev 22:13  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.


You lie lie say this is Father God:
Rev 1:8  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Alpha and Omega of course is Greek for "the first and the last"
is Father God also the first resurrected? ha ha

no, the testimony of Revelation is the testimony of Jesus Christ.


"the Alpha and Omega" "the first and the last" "the beginning and the ending:
all mean the same thing

duh dum dolph

dolphinheart:

you know who Immanuel really is? , now pls tell us, was the first Immanuel in Isaiahs prophecy God? Go and read the prophecy and see how it was first fulfilled!




go and read the scriptures shown to you brocab, you will understand better, that Jesus bears the name Immanuel does not mean that Jesus is God,
we all know that God was with jesus, telling him what to do and say and giving him the power to do so!.

The words I told you are not false, but truth:


[b]Paul did not say "god was manifest in flesh, Paul did not use the Greek word " theos"

go and read the prophecy, go and read it's first fulfillment, come back and tell us if that first child called I'mmanuel is God. 

God's son became flesh and took on the likeness of men, that's what the scriptures teaches.
The scriptures teaches that God sent his son, not himself to become flesh, so God did not become flesh, his son became flesh and dwelt with mankind!

With this foremost representative of Jehovah among mankind, Matthew under inspiration could truly say, “With Us Is God.”
Jesus at various times during his life on earth told us how God was using him among mankind. 



Who Was Immanuel?
Some names of individuals in the Bible were prophetic and describe the work the person would do. For example, the prophet Isaiah was inspired to write: “Look! The maiden herself will actually become pregnant, and she is giving birth to a son, and she will certainly call his name Immanuel.” (Isaiah 7:14) This name means “With Us Is God.” Some Bible commentators have tried to link the first fulfillment of this prophecy with one of the Israelite kings or one of Isaiah’s sons. However, the Gospel writer Matthew showed that Isaiah’s prophecy was completely fulfilled in Jesus.—Matthew 1:22, 23.

Some have claimed that by applying the name Immanuel to Jesus, the Bible teaches that Jesus is God. However, by this logic the young man Elihu, who comforted and corrected Job, was also God. Why? His name means “My God Is He.”

Jesus never claimed to be God. (John 14:28; Philippians 2:5, 6) But he did reflect his Father’s personality perfectly, and he fulfilled all of God’s promises regarding the Messiah. (John 14:9; 2 Corinthians 1:20) The name Immanuel well describes Jesus’ role as the Messianic Seed, a descendant of David, the one who proves that God is with those who worship Him.

God sent Jesus to save his Faithfull ones. God spoke to us through a son( heb 1 : 1,2), Jesus tells us that the father told him what to say! and gave his sheep to him.[/b]

brocab, in Nigeria here, the southwest people have a name they give to their children, the name is " oluwapelumi", it means " God is with me"
We all know that though the child bears that name,it does not mean that the parents think that the child is God!
names have deeper meanings than to look it at face value, the isrealites understand this too when they add God to their names. There is a son of heman called eliathah, his name means "GOD HAS COME" , brocab, does it mean the son of heman is God cus his name means God has come?, If you could answer this question(though I know you will not), then you will understand better about names.

dolphinheart:

which one of those names did God directly tell you "this is my name"?


have I not thought you what psalms 83: 18 says, where we were told God's name?
pls check and study the definition of the Greek word "theos" , I've posted it earlier!


the bible does not lie, and I've explained those verses to you.

on Luke 1:31 , this is what I said :
" like I said, I was beginning to suspect you know little about the name jehovah, you just comfirmed it. I will not teach you further , but I will leave a clue, go and read the 1611 edition of the KJV, post what luke 1: 31 says here, tell us how that translation spelt the name of the son of God in that verse and why you , a defender of that 1611 translation do not spell the name in that manner!

your refusal to quote that verse from the 1611 version and explain why you don't spell the name in like manner will show how deep into falsehood you really are!"

YOU HAVE REFUSED TO DO SO, YOU AGAIN SHOW DEEP IN FALSEHOOD YOU ARE ANYTIME YOU REFUSE TO ANSWER CUS YOU KNOW IT EXPOSES YOU.


broad is this (below) the verse you are referring to? if it is ,then you confirm more and more that you know little about jehovah!

gen 13:4
King James Bible
Unto the place of the altar, which he had made there at the first: and there Abram called on the name of the LORD.

The questions one needs to ask you is
. where did the scripture say Abraham built an image.?
even if God's name is not jehovah, would that make it right for Abraham to build and image for worship?
did Abraham build an image for worship?

achorladey:

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Brocab :
This argument would sound better if you would just study other bibles, and find out why most bibles don't have the name Jehovah written inside them,

solite3:
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@ bold so that chapter has false views? What are the false views? Is the bible no longer inspired or it is just views





you are not attending to issues raised.
How come the writer uses the same psalm 102 that was used to address Jehovah to address Jesus?
I remember in one of your post when you said Jehovah just used Jesus to create things but Jesus is NEVER said to be the one who made all things. Well, haven't you been proven wrong?

Yes Jesus is the Master worker you have said it All.




this you have said my friend shows just how dangerous watch tower brainwashing can be.
The bible does not give room for this absurdities.

Read again slowly
Ps 102:25-27Long ago you laid the foundations of the earth, And the heavens[b] are the work of your hands[/b].26They will perish, but you will remain; Just like a garment they will all wear out. Just like clothing you will replace them, and they will pass away.27But you are the same, and your years will never end.
the scripture didn't just say the heavens and earth are his works but the work of his hands.

Using your analogy, can you tell your friends that your house is the work of your hands?



yes, is it not bibilical? Yet you couldn't fault it.

major466:
Do not get me wrong am not prejudice to Jehovah's Witness group. On the contrary, I like their sense of seriousness and modesty. Their ''Awake Magazine'' is one of my favorite magazines; very informative and colorful. I still read them to this day.
The only thing that spoil the show is their doctrine about the Divinity of the Lord Jesus Christ. They believe Jesus is of equal status with Arch Angels in heaven. It is written all over their literatures. To Jehovah witness, Jesus Christ is not GOD. This belief is a massive contradiction to John1:1 which states that:
''In the beginning was the Word , and the Word was with GOD and the word was GOD.''
2. ''He was in the beginning with GOD. All things were made through Him, and apart from Him not one thing was made that has been made.''
The term ''Word'' from the verse above is refering to Jesus Christ. And He (Jesus Christ) was in existence before the creation of heaven and earth. He was with GOD from the very beginnging. And He was GOD. All created objects in heaven (including all the angels big and small) and earth were made through him. Without Him, not one thing was made.
If the Jehovah Witness group hold the believe that Jesus Christ is not GOD but a majestic being, created just like Arch Micheal, how come the Bible categorically recognizes Jesus Christ as GOD and that all things both in heaven and earth were made through him in John1:1-3?

dolphinheart:

which one of those names did God directly tell you "this is my name"?


have I not thought you what psalms 83: 18 says, where we were told God's name?
pls check and study the definition of the Greek word "theos" , I've posted it earlier!


the bible does not lie, and I've explained those verses to you.

on Luke 1:31 , this is what I said :
" like I said, I was beginning to suspect you know little about the name jehovah, you just comfirmed it. I will not teach you further , but I will leave a clue, go and read the 1611 edition of the KJV, post what luke 1: 31 says here, tell us how that translation spelt the name of the son of God in that verse and why you , a defender of that 1611 translation do not spell the name in that manner!

your refusal to quote that verse from the 1611 version and explain why you don't spell the name in like manner will show how deep into falsehood you really are!"

YOU HAVE REFUSED TO DO SO, YOU AGAIN SHOW DEEP IN FALSEHOOD YOU ARE ANYTIME YOU REFUSE TO ANSWER CUS YOU KNOW IT EXPOSES YOU.


broad is this (below) the verse you are referring to? if it is ,then you confirm more and more that you know little about jehovah!

gen 13:4
King James Bible
Unto the place of the altar, which he had made there at the first: and there Abram called on the name of the LORD.

The questions one needs to ask you is
. where did the scripture say Abraham built an image.?
even if God's name is not jehovah, would that make it right for Abraham to build and image for worship?
did Abraham build an image for worship?

ejimatic:



Your opiinion is respected. However, Jehovah's witnesses are not peddlars of the good news neither are they running a religious business organisation-We believe in Jesus Christ as our Lord and saviour (John 14 vrs 6. Acts 4 12 Isaiah 9 vrs 6) and take him as a model (I Peter 2 vrs 21) but we give our exclusive devotion to Almighty God Jehovah (Psalms 83 :18) Jesus our Lord and saviour worshiped him too and prayed to him always (Mathew 6 9 to 13).We are imitating him too .

solite3:

Dolphinheart



Did you read what brocab wrote?

What does Emmanuel mean?
A. God is with us
B.a god is with us.
C. No idea

achorladey:

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Brocab:
This argument would sound better if you would just study other bibles, and find out why most bibles don't have the name Jehovah written inside them,
Achorladey:
18:16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
After your(Brocab) study of NWT and the KJV. What do you have to say about ''Jehovah'' under the principles highlighted in Matthew 18:16? Will you insist the JWs had no right to use the name? Is Jehovah not recorded in these two Bible translations? That it's stated categorically more than twice in each of these bibles is that not enough proof to establish every word? Matthew 18:16. Give the JWs a break. If you can't comprehend the scriptures call for help stubbornness leads to nowhere.

dolphinheart:


yes I read it, did you read my reply, do you understand my reply?

The answer is A
the issue is not about the Greek word "theos", Isaiah told us the meaning of the name "Immanuel" not "theos".

I asked him a question, I like to ask you too, hope you will answer
one of heman's son is called eliathah. can you tell us what that names means and can you tell us if it means that the person bearing that name is god?

dolphinheart:


1. I did not say the chapter has false views , look at what I said again :
solite3, if you read those scriptures without trying to understand the context and what the the bible says in its entirety, you will come to the false understandING you are trying to potray .

2. It should be noted that you tried to omit yourself from answering the question asked, this question is vital to understandING Hebrews chapter 1:
[b] First of all, who is talking in that verse? and who does that person say he is in relation to Jesus? The answers to those questions which I will expect that you will not provide when you reply(let's see if you will prove me wrong ) will help you to understand what that verse is saying.

you proved me right again by refusing to answer that question.

3. You refuse to respond to this statement and verses:
[b]you have read the relationship the person talking in that verse and Jesus when it comes to creation, earliar that same chapter had cleared Any false views of what it will say later , look at heb 1: 1-2.
Heb 1:1 Long ago God spoke to our forefathers by means of the prophets on many occasions and in many ways
Heb 1:2 Now at the end of these days he has spoken to us by means of a Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the systems of things.

4. I am attending to the issue raised I'm telling how the quote of psalms 102: 25-27 can be applied to Jesus in Hebrews 1: 10-12 when the psalm says that it is addressed to God. The answer is that it is because the Son is the one through whom God performed the creative works there described by the psalmist. (See Colossians 1:15, 16; Proverbs 8:22, 27-30.)
It should be observed in Hebrews 1:5b that a quotation is made from 2 Samuel 7:14 and applied to the Son of God. Although that text had its first application to Solomon, the later application of it to Jesus Christ does not mean that Solomon and Jesus are the same. Jesus is “greater than Solomon” and carries out a work foreshadowed by Solomon.—Luke 11:31.

5. It is evident that in Hebrew chapter one, the God that the writer is refering to as saying all this is not Jesus.

6. pls you need to support your statement with facts, pls show where I made the statement you claimed you remembered I made.

7. It is good that you accepted that Jesus is the one being referred to in proverbs 8: 30, your brother brocab refuses to accept, hope you will teach him that truth.
I also hope you accept the other things said about Jesus in that chapter.
The verse said, I was beside him as a master worker, hope you understand that statement?

8. yes I can tell my friends that the foundation where the works of my own hands , the bricklayer can say the same thing, it is left for the listener to understand the statement , it does not mean the bricklayer and the owner are same person.
A similar expression was used by Solomon , let's read it
Ec 2:4 I undertook great works. I built houses for myself; I planted vineyards for myself.
Ec 2:5I made gardens and parks for myself, and I planted in them all sorts of fruit trees.
Ec 2:6I made pools of water for myself, to irrigate a grove of flourishing trees.
* you can continue reading to verse 11

In reverence to verse 4, 1Ki 7:1 says : And it took Solʹo·mon 13 years to build his own house, until his whole house was completed.
The scriptures above says Solomon built his own house, Solomon said he undertook great works and built his house. We all know that despite this statement by Solomon, we could not say he physically built the house by himself , we all know he employed people to build his house for him. despite this well known facts that Solomon employed workers to build his house for him, look at what he said in verse 12
Ec 2:11 But when I reflected on all the works that MY OWN HANDS had done and on all the hard work that I had toiled to accomplish, I saw that everything was futile, a chasing after the wind; there was nothing of real value under the sun.

now let me ask you solite3, did Solomon say he accomplished those works he mentioned earlier with his own hands? does it mean he physically did the construction? pls answer , you are the one who brought up the issue of own hand as if it negates the lay man's example I gave you.

9. you did not respond to this question :
You are very confused , so Jesus was God that was talking in those verses of Hebrew chapter 1?

10. IF you believe you said something biblical and you want me to know or respond, pls mention me when you say it.

jworg:


My friend the truth is that the bible teaches that Jesus is a God even in the book of isaiah 9:6 calls him mighty God and Jehovah's witnesses do not dispute that at any time. But the area of interest is, Is Jesus equal in status to the almighty God? That is were we Jehovah's witnesses say No.. First of all in the book of Isaiah 9:6 i quoted earlier called Jesus a mighty God if Jesus is refered to as Mighty God then who is Almighty (remember comparative and superlative in english language). Secondly Jesus on so many occasion refered to himself as having a father matt 6:9, 10 (he said our father in the heaven which includes himself otherwise he would have said Your father in heaven) on the night he was killed he prayed to a higher God begging that he be spared the agony that was coming to prove the fact that he was talking to a superior he said, "Let not my will but yours take place" . Also in John 14:28 Jesus said that he is going to meet a father and that Father is greater than he is. So please don't get it twisted Jehovah's witnesses do demote Jesus or promote Jesus we preach Jesus exactly for what he is, that is he is our Redeemer, the king of kings enthroned in heaven as king of God's kingdom, the only begotten son of God (John 3:16) and so much more. But one thing we do not accept is that Jesus is same and equal to the almighty God. For more info visit jw. Org got to bible teachings for more answers

Septre:
My issues with jehovah's witness are

1 They dont like praying with other christains
2 They invite you to their programs but will not come for yours when you invite them
3 They dont usually allow members to marry christains frm other denominations

I believe that Jesus is the Son of God and he died for our sins and i try as much as i can to emulate him. Now why will a fellow christain do all the above to me cos i dont worship in the same place as him? Is it not annoying? Jesus told his disciples that he who is not against us is with us. So why dont jwits see other christains as part of them 'us' just like Jesus. In heaven there will only be saints, but there will be no denomination no catholic, anglican, winners, reedem or christ embassy so why cant we be more united?

I also have a problem with jwits not accepting blood transfusion. They would rather die than accept it. Makes no sense to me.

I love awake magazine though and one of my best friend is jwits. He is selfless

brocab:
Well said good and faithful servant..

solite3:
It seems you don't know what is going on within watchtower. Like the saying goes a slave does not know what his master is doing.
In the aspect of Christ imitation you guys failed woefully. Jesus never mention Jehovah's name. He told you that Christians are his witness not Jehovah witnesses. The disciples were called Christians not Jehovah witness .

dolphinheart:

you should know by now that I will not resort to your mode of discussion, only people who cannot respond to certain things will erase such things when responding to somethings post.
This issue you raised above has been responded to by me more than once!, you could not respond to it but decided to erase it when quoting me.
If you had left my post in full out resorting to removing certain scriptures and explanations, you will have see the truth. As long as you use this method to any of my post, I will not respond to you, I'll assume that the parts you erased are true, thus you could not respond to them!

achorladey:

Your scorecard is still with me. Continue

dolphinheart:


[b]rev 1:8

New International Version
"I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty."

New Living Translation
"I am the Alpha and the Omega--the beginning and the end," says the Lord God. "I am the one who is, who always was, and who is still to come--the Almighty One."

English Standard Version
“I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”

Berean Study Bible
"I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, who is and was and is to come--the Almighty.

Berean Literal Bible
"I am the Alpha and the Omega," says Lord God, the One being, and who was, and who is coming, the Almighty.

New American Standard Bible 
"I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty."

Holman Christian Standard Bible
I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "the One who is, who was, and who is coming, the Almighty." 

International Standard Version
"I am the Alpha and the Omega," declares the Lord God, "the one who is, who was, and who is coming, the Almighty."

NET Bible
"I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God--the one who is, and who was, and who is still to come--the All-Powerful! 

New Heart English Bible
"I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty."

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
I am The Alap and The Tau, says THE LORD JEHOVAH God, he who is and has been and is coming, The Almighty.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
"I am the A and the Z," says the Lord God, the one who is, the one who was, and the one who is coming, the Almighty. 

New American Standard 1977 
“I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”

American Standard Version
I am the Alpha and the Omega, saith the Lord God, who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.

Darby Bible Translation
I am the Alpha and the Omega, saith [the] Lord God, he who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.

English Revised Version
I am the Alpha and the Omega, saith the Lord God, which is and which was and which is to come,

Weymouth New Testament
"I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "He who is and was and evermore will be--the Ruler of all."

World English Bible
"I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty."[/b]

THE BEST AND OLDEST AVAILABLE MANUSCRIPTS DO NOT HAVE THE WORDS "BEGINNING AND ENDING" IN REV 1:8, PLS TELL US WHICH MANUSCRIPT DID YOUR BIBLE USE TO GET THOSE WORDS IT ADDED?

WE KNOW IT WAS GOD WHO GAVE JESUS THE REVELATION
Re 1:1 A revelation by Jesus Christ, which God gave him, to show his slaves the things that must shortly take place. And he sent his angel and presented it in signs through him to his slave John,

WE know Jesus is not the God who gave him the revelation, in fact in revelation he Called that God " my God".

We also know that from examinING revelation 1: 4-6 , the one who is who was and who is to come is not Jesus as much as Jesus is not the seven spirits.

ejimatic:



The purpose of what I say here is not to win argument but to express our belief which may be different from yours- Everybody is entitled to his opinion-However I want to reiterate that Jehovah's witnesses do not have a hide and seek operational system.All we do is in the full glare of the public including our worship and evangelism which are done in more than 240 countries-In addition, Jesus ,our lord, used God'name (John 17:6) and witnessed about God( Rev 1 :2, 5).Besides, it is true disciples were called Christians in the first century CE, but right from the Bible times God's people were called his witnesses-Jesus was even referred to as God, witness (Rev 1 vrs 2 and 5).Thus, it is appropriate for us to bear the scriptural name christian Jehovah's witnesses (Isaiah 43:10-12) in imitation of Jesus-

dolphinheart:


yes I read it, did you read my reply, do you understand my reply?

The answer is A
the issue is not about the Greek word "theos", Isaiah told us the meaning of the name "Immanuel" not "theos".

dolphinheart:

I asked him a question, I like to ask you too, hope you will answer
one of heman's son is called eliathah. can you tell us what that names means and can you tell us if it means that the person bearing that name is god?

solite3:
you said you imitate Jesus yet you couldn't state in the way you do?
Was Jesus called Jehovah witness? Were the Christians called Jehovah witness? Jesus said Christians shall be his witness. Why aren't you called Jesus witness? Where did Jesus call his father's name Jehovah?

1. I did not say the chapter has false views , look at what I said again :
solite3, if you read those scriptures without trying to understand the context and what the the bible says in its entirety, you will come to the false understandING you are trying to potray .

2. It should be noted that you tried to omit yourself from answering the question asked, this question is vital to understandING Hebrews chapter 1:
[b] First of all, who is talking in that verse? and who does that person say he is in relation to Jesus? The answers to those questions which I will expect that you will not provide when you reply(let's see if you will prove me wrong ) will help you to understand what that verse is saying.

you proved me right again by refusing to answer that question.

3. You refuse to respond to this statement and verses:
[b]you have read the relationship the person talking in that verse and Jesus when it comes to creation, earliar that same chapter had cleared Any false views of what it will say later , look at heb 1: 1-2.
Heb 1:1 Long ago God spoke to our forefathers by means of the prophets on many occasions and in many ways
Heb 1:2 Now at the end of these days he has spoken to us by means of a Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the systems of things.

4. I am attending to the issue raised I'm telling how the quote of psalms 102: 25-27 can be applied to Jesus in Hebrews 1: 10-12 when the psalm says that it is addressed to God. The answer is that it is because the Son is the one through whom God performed the creative works there described by the psalmist. (See Colossians 1:15, 16; Proverbs 8:22, 27-30.)

It should be observed in Hebrews 1:5b that a quotation is made from 2 Samuel 7:14 and applied to the Son of God. Although that text had its first application to Solomon, the later application of it to Jesus Christ does not mean that Solomon and Jesus are the same. Jesus is “greater than Solomon” and carries out a work foreshadowed by Solomon.—Luke 11:31.

5. It is evident that in Hebrew chapter one, the God that the writer is refering to as saying all this is not Jesus.

6. pls you need to support your statement with facts, pls show where I made the statement you claimed you remembered I made.

7. It is good that you accepted that Jesus is the one being referred to in proverbs 8: 30, your brother brocab refuses to accept, hope you will teach him that truth.
I also hope you accept the other things said about Jesus in that chapter.
The verse said, I was beside him as a master worker, hope you understand that statement?

8. yes I can tell my friends that the foundation where the works of my own hands , the bricklayer can say the same thing, it is left for the listener to understand the statement , it does not mean the bricklayer and the owner are same person.

A similar expression was used by Solomon , let's read it
Ec 2:4 I undertook great works. I built houses for myself; I planted vineyards for myself.
Ec 2:5I made gardens and parks for myself, and I planted in them all sorts of fruit trees.
Ec 2:6I made pools of water for myself, to irrigate a grove of flourishing trees.
* you can continue reading to verse 11

In reverence to verse 4, 1Ki 7:1 says : And it took Solʹo·mon 13 years to build his own house, until his whole house was completed.
The scriptures above says Solomon built his own house, Solomon said he undertook great works and built his house. We all know that despite this statement by Solomon, we could not say he physically built the house by himself , we all know he employed people to build his house for him. despite this well known facts that Solomon employed workers to build his house for him, look at what he said in verse 12
Ec 2:11 But when I reflected on all the works that MY OWN HANDS had done and on all the hard work that I had toiled to accomplish, I saw that everything was futile, a chasing after the wind; there was nothing of real value under the sun.

now let me ask you solite3, did Solomon say he accomplished those works he mentioned earlier with his own hands? does it mean he physically did the construction? pls answer , you are the one who brought up the issue of own hand as if it negates the lay man's example I gave you.

9. you did not respond to this question :
You are very confused , so Jesus was God that was talking in those verses of Hebrew chapter 1?

10. IF you believe you said something biblical and you want me to know or respond, pls mention me when you say it.

brocab:
If the scriptures say Jesus is God-then Jesus is God.

And if Paul didn't say God was manifest in the flesh-then these words came from God Himself. who spoke through Paul.

KJV {Isaiah 7:14} Therefore the Lord Himself shall give you a sign, "Behold a Virgin will conceive and bear a Son, and she shall call His name Immanuel.
The NWT Bible it say's-Therefore Jehovah Himself will give you a sign, Look the young woman will become pregnant and will give birth to a son, and she will name Him Immanuel..
There is no maiden name-not even in your bible, Mary was the Virgin the prophets spoke about In {Isaiah 7:14}
Dolphinheart not even you can change the prophesies..
And on top of all this, call your children what you like. Your children don't match up with the prophesies, some children are called Jesus-but theirs only One Jesus, He that lives on from the beginning, If calling your child a name that's relevant to God-then by their fruits we will know them.

brocab:
Thank you-Dolphinheart=even if God's name is not jehovah,

dolphinheart:


another evidence to show that you will do anything to avoid answering those questions, I asked you a question, you are trying to convert it to a statement.
which names did God directly tell you "this is my name"?

" like I said, I was beginning to suspect you know little about the name jehovah, you just confirmed it. I will not teach you further , but I will leave a clue, go and read the 1611 edition of the KJV, post what luke 1: 31 says here, tell us how that translation spelt the name of the son of God in that verse and why you , a defender of that 1611 translation do not spell the name in that manner!

your refusal to quote that verse from the 1611 version and explain why you don't spell the name in like manner will show how deep into falsehood you really are!"

YOU HAVE REFUSED TO DO SO, YOU AGAIN SHOW DEEP IN FALSEHOOD YOU ARE ANYTIME YOU REFUSE TO ANSWER CUS YOU KNOW IT EXPOSES YOU.


broad is this (below) the verse you are referring to? if it is ,then you confirm more and more that you know little about jehovah!

The questions one needs to ask you is 
. where did the scripture say Abraham built an image.?
even if God's name is not jehovah, would that make it right for Abraham to build and image for worship?
did Abraham build an image for worship?

again you still refuse to answer that question, then I'll assume you are trying to lie against a faithful servant of God.