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Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by ZYZZA: 4:11pm On Nov 20, 2015
sisqonite:


But the thing with people like you is that you never understood ur enemy and with this i can estimate ur Intelligence Quotient.
The last person @least showed us he can google "bad teachings of islam" and come up with verses to support his claim but u?
Whenever in the books (Both Quran and hadith) did anybody ever mentioned/promised any muslim a virgin?
The Quran:
Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them
wherever you find them, and turn
them out from where they have
turned you out. And Al-
Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse
than killing...
but if they desist, then lo! Allah is
forgiving and merciful. And fight
them until there is no
more Fitnah [disbelief and
worshipping of others along with
Allah] and worship is for Allah
alone. But if they cease, let there be
no transgression except against Az-
Zalimun (the polytheists, and
wrong-doers, etc.)" (Translation is
from the Noble Quran ) The verse
prior to this (190) refers to "fighting
for the cause of Allah those who
fight you" leading some to believe
that the entire passage refers to a
defensive war in which Muslims
are defending their homes and
families. The historical context of
this passage is not defensive
warfare, however, since
Muhammad and his Muslims had
just relocated to Medina and were
not under attack by their Meccan
adversaries. In fact, the verses
urge offensive warfare, in that
Muslims are to drive Meccans out
of their own city (which they later
did ). Verse 190 thus means to fight
those who offer resistance to
Allah's rule (ie. Muslim conquest).
The use of the word "persecution"
by some Muslim translators is
disingenuous (the actual Arabic
words for persecution - "idtihad" -
and oppression - a variation of "z-l-
m" - do not appear in the verse).
The word used instead, "fitna",
can mean disbelief, or the disorder
that results from unbelief or
temptation. This is certainly what
is meant in this context since the
violence is explicitly commissioned
"until religion is for Allah" - ie.
unbelievers desist in their unbelief.
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by marlockj: 4:11pm On Nov 20, 2015
onosprince:
This idiots are just destroying the islamic religion and making everyone of them look bad.


Islam is not good,you are saying another thing.

Every average aboki have a short knife with them.

Guy Dnt b deceived

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Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by Ogirinaz(m): 4:11pm On Nov 20, 2015
Hmmmm, always drive fun in exaggerating. i just downloaded the videos, i could where any person under duress to recite the holy Qur'an or been set free after reciting any holy book. Pls lets be mindful of what we pos on social network.

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Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by calaway: 4:12pm On Nov 20, 2015
sisqonite:


If you're a xtain (which i doubt), am definitely disappointed in you. So much hate but you know it's only my religion (Islam) that talked about accommodating other religions than any in the world.
If my religion believe is to hate xtain (Like you all assume) that much why is it that Jesus (PBUH) was mentioned 25x in the Quran as against Muhammed's 5x (PBUH)?
you don't even know Islam you claimed to hate.
Spread love, not hate

stop mentioning JESUS. you fooool Our savior is alive, he is not a man like your mohamed that he will die and be dust.

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Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by VickyRotex(f): 4:12pm On Nov 20, 2015
rigarmortis:


How many christian or budhist terrorists have you seen lately, how many muslim terrorists have you seen lately............

Supply the answer.

If you understood what I wrote up there, you wouldn't be asking me this question.

I repeat, Terrorism shouldn't be linked to any religion.

This is what my dictionary tells me about Terrorism.

"Terrorism is the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives."

So tell me, was any particular religion mentioned there?

Btw, I'm a Christian!
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by bluaero(m): 4:12pm On Nov 20, 2015
mujaya1:
I am asking this question to christian, who invented gun, who produced it, who sell it, who throw atomic nuclear to japan in world war 2, who fought world war 1 and 2,who created isis,boko haram,alqeada, who use all of this in name of islam, to destroy islam, or allah reveal all this people that are using islam to achieve want and destroy them forever.

Idiot. Shut the bleep up and let me educate you.
Gun powder was invented in China by accident.
The Arabs (Muslims ) were the first to use it to kill others. Mumu.
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by sisqonite: 4:12pm On Nov 20, 2015
vodkat:


its not a religion its a totalitarian ideology just like nazism but its nazism didnt include a god while islam has a god to enslave thir brainwashed slaves.

this war is fought on proxy while the head and body of the dragon is in saudi.



In other words, they start fighting Saudi when Israel is bombing Palestine and nobody's saying nothing?

....we love you still brothers
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by haywire07(m): 4:13pm On Nov 20, 2015
Please is the hostage situation still live or the situation is over?
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by IYANGBALI: 4:13pm On Nov 20, 2015
ElCapone:
This is what the quran says about terrorism
1. Terrorism is above all murder. Murder is
strictly forbidden in the Qur’an. Qur’an 6:151
says, “and do not kill a soul that God has made
sacrosanct, save lawfully.” (i.e. murder is
forbidden but the death penalty imposed by the
state for a crime is permitted). 5:53 says, “…
whoso kills a soul, unless it be for murder or for
wreaking corruption in the land, it shall be as if
he had killed all mankind; and he who saves a
life, it shall be as if he had given life to all
mankind.”
2. If the motive for terrorism is religious, it is
impermissible in Islamic law. It is forbidden to
attempt to impose Islam on other people. The
Qur’an says, “There is no compulsion in religion.
The right way has become distinct from error.” (-
The Cow, 2:256). Note that this verse was
revealed in Medina in 622 AD or after and was
never abrogated by any other verse of the
Quran. Islam’s holy book forbids coercing
people into adopting any religion. They have to
willingly choose it.
this one na revised standard version abandoned by all muslims grin
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by pedro4hope(m): 4:15pm On Nov 20, 2015
Why always ISLAM?

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Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by Excellentmind: 4:15pm On Nov 20, 2015
dejisakin:
What ever the truth is, we shall all see it on judgement day? No matter how much they make the world believe Islam is a terrorist religion, it's the fastest growing religion in the world. Falsehood can never take the place of light. Islam is 1437 years old today, why is it just about 2 to 3 decades ago Islam became a terrorist religion. If you don't believe that Islam is still the fastest growing religion in the world, Google it. God never breaks HIS promises, let's wait for judgement day. The Satanist are through with Judaism and Christianity, it's Islam they want to destroy now. They can never succeed. Allah is sufficient for us. For those that justify there killings on Islamic basis, hell is your aboard, a heartless journeys end.

Don't be deceived, Islam must be destroyed for the world to have peace.
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by nellyelitz(m): 4:15pm On Nov 20, 2015
sisqonite:


People claiming to be Muslims and not acting according the Islam doctrine.
So where do you people classify those gay people who have their wedding in the church and i read clearly in the bible that God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah cos of this?
Not justifying terrorism but enlightening people on my religion (ISLAM)
no, you're doing exactly that! Do those people you mentioned destroy lives? Mention the atrocities they've committed and I'll sing to you carnage Islamic terrorists are causing the world.

Meanwhile, are you not aware of guy mosques all over the world?
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by sisqonite: 4:17pm On Nov 20, 2015
bluaero:


Idiot. Shut the bleep up and let me educate you.
Gun powder was invented in China by accident.
The Arabs (Muslims ) were the first to use it to kill others. Mumu.

In Hiroshima and Nagasaki? u tried in ur history exam gannn ni o
So in all the whole accusation it's only gun power you can defend?
Mention any of the Islamic country that controls nuke (and proven, not the ghost chase in Iraq) or manufactures arms on the large scale to the extent that it makes up 70% of its foreign income?
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by mike404(m): 4:18pm On Nov 20, 2015
CHAI I MISSED THIS THREAD SHA angry
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by free2ryhme: 4:19pm On Nov 20, 2015
amjoseph19:
Make I do go learn Quran. One can't just tell.
You want to learn a language of terrorist

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Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by Whymee: 4:24pm On Nov 20, 2015
You found yourself in

a hostage situation with a terrorist and you we're asked to recite the qurian and go.This is a miracle.

Why the noise, this is the perspective the Christians who view it the reverse case, I.e. if bible verses were ask to be recited by the terrorist.

...a case of accident victim came to mind. He was the only survivor out of the 40 passenger. Christians claimed he survived because his tore cloth create a cross sign.

What an irony of life.
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by uzo4real(m): 4:27pm On Nov 20, 2015
Wish Abraham didn't *** with Hagar, Ishmael and this evil Islam wldnt have come into existence.... TERRIBLE!!!
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by farem: 4:28pm On Nov 20, 2015
SenatePresdo:
Islamabad.

as for those muslims saying that ISIS and Boko haram are not doing in the ways of the true teachings, in 2006 when muhammed was cartooned at denmark, who massacred the christains in the north?? Were they Isis?

Islamabaddest!

Question for 70 virgins
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by honeywealth75(m): 4:29pm On Nov 20, 2015
Lahnatu Laahi Aleiki. Foolish brat.
ihatebuhari:
May God Almighty destroy Islam and the prophet who brought it to this world
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by parisbookaddict(f): 4:29pm On Nov 20, 2015
ABIOLAXYZ:

Allah Will forgive you

Nobody needs islamic allahs forgiveness. .he was mohammeds invention. .

■"Mohammed is God's apostle. Those who follow him are harsh to the unbelievers but merciful to one another" Quran 48:29

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Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by ransomed: 4:30pm On Nov 20, 2015
rahymat:
how would he wen he wasnt attacked or harmed “Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight
you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah
loveth not transgressors. And slay them
wherever ye catch them, and turn them out
from where they have Turned you out; for
tumult and oppression are worse than
slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred
Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there;
but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the
reward of those who suppress faith.”
[Al-Qur'an 2:190-191]
::- This also buttres what is happening right now. ISIS, AL QAEDA, AL SHABAB, AL NUSRA, AL SAR'DIN ,BOKO HARAM Kill unharmed innocents all over the world who never fought with them?. Are you saying God cannot fight for Himself? Why must you fight for God and go on suicide mission terminating innocent souls. Is your God not having room for forgiveness? There will be peace all over the world the day Islamic terrorists stop their heinous activities against humanity. Thanks.
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by parisbookaddict(f): 4:32pm On Nov 20, 2015
sisqonite:


In Hiroshima and Nagasaki? u tried in ur history exam gannn ni o
So in all the whole accusation it's only gun power you can defend?
Mention any of the Islamic country that controls nuke (and proven, not the ghost chase in Iraq) or manufactures arms on the large scale to the extent that it makes up 70% of its foreign income?

Pakistan the bigot intolerant islamic country has nukes..
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by buJu234: 4:33pm On Nov 20, 2015
amjoseph19:
The world in general is hypocritical when dealing with islam.. Let's face the fact. let's call a spade a spade and not a big spoon. Islam is a cancer to the world and it need to be cut off.
With all due respect to the muslim, I don't hate you guys.. You guys should stop playing the race card here and don't call me racist cause islam is not a race, it is an ideology. I love you all as humans, but I hate your ideology. It is a treat to my existence.

Thank u..

lets b real if Mohammed actions were to be interpreted into today`s world; he would have been called a REBEL(for waging war against his country mecca); TERRORIST( for killing the Medina Jews etc); Highway robber (for attacking traders & collecting their goods); RAPISTS (for taking other men`s wife); Dangerous Polygamists (for marry alot of women); Pedophile( for marrying a 9yrs old) etc

ISIS & the other Islamists like the Salafis assuming they were in Mohammed days; their names would have been written in the Koran that they will make paradise and that others should emulate them with questioning.

if u doubt it; plx read the Koran & Mohammed history. at least the HISTORY OF ISLAM movie we normally watch on Edie fidtri holiday is a good point of reference.

So today`s muslims pls think and ask reasonable question of ISLAM; NOT THIS CONVERT OR DIE bombing everyday & every where

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Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by angiography(m): 4:33pm On Nov 20, 2015
mujaya1:
I am asking this question to christian, who invented gun, who produced it, who sell it, who throw atomic nuclear to japan in world war 2, who fought world war 1 and 2,who created isis,boko haram,alqeada, who use all of this in name of islam, to destroy islam, or allah reveal all this people that are using islam to achieve want and destroy them forever.
Terrorist alert
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by Nobody: 4:34pm On Nov 20, 2015
Booyakasha:
You see, Islam is the worst thing that has ever happened to planet earth. angry
seriously...

islam is a religion of war and nt peace... Bleep it

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Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by vodkat: 4:34pm On Nov 20, 2015
sisqonite:


In other words, they start fighting Saudi when Israel is bombing Palestine and nobody's saying nothing?

....we love you still brothers

here you guys go calling palestine in everything, you will not talk or do anything about the killing of africans in nigeria by islamists -what did this nigerians do. palenstians are boko haramists looking for land to culvated their virus called islam. All motivated by greed and land grabbing ideology neo arab colonialism cultural expansion program just like they want to do in africa and in the world. Even though the arab man will always choose a white man over a black man in everything. the black man will shout palestine bla bla bla. We lost our Egyptian pyramid heritage to this blood sucking demons.

My brother shine ur eyes, this is the truth told to me by arabs themselves


This islamists are always the first to look for trouble and when u hit them back they start crying. Only Russia LONE CAN destroy the middle east but because of the humanitarian disater it refuses to do so.

Just take what is happening at home for eg Nigeria army is fighting back againhst boko haram who in their neo arab colonialism cultural expansion program is claming that a part of nigeria belongs to dem.

IF not for what happened in Nigeria with boko haram many ppl will still be gullible

Palestine problem is an islamic problem motivated by greed


Look at nigeria vs cameroon over bakassi if islam was in that equation the blood bath would be like an ocean


But what annoys me is that u are looking to the land of your mental masters more than wher God placed u
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by rigarmortis: 4:36pm On Nov 20, 2015
VickyRotex:


If you understood what I wrote up there, you wouldn't be asking me this question.

I repeat, Terrorism shouldn't be linked to any religion.

This is what my dictionary tells me about Terrorism.

"Terrorism is the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives."

So tell me, was any particular religion mentioned there?

Btw, I'm a Christian!


You are talking plenty but saying nothing.

So if muslims use terror as a tool against governments, or segments of the society to intimidate people in furtherance of their political objectives which could go from wanting to create an islamic state to protesting the election of a non muslim and socially which could go from their hardline stance on women freedom to forcing women to cover their hair and other factors, even against their wishes, to stoning of female adulterers, not rape cases mind you, i mean two consenting adults.

All the above come with a religious undertone, and the religion is question is islam, so what do you call a muslim who wants to further the cause of allah by doing all these?

A terrorist?....yes.....but since terrorism cuts across many factors, political, religious etc and religion has many kinds, islam, xtian, budhism, the use of muslim terrorist aptly describe these people.


Okocha was a sportsman, if you say that to someone who doesnt know okocha, you leave him guessing wildly, but if you say, okocha is a footballer, you are telling him he is a sportsman whose specialism is soccer.

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Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by Xbee007(m): 4:39pm On Nov 20, 2015
calaway:
My pastor was caught smooching one church lamb.
Shut up gay!!!
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by mindtricks: 4:40pm On Nov 20, 2015
Booyakasha:
You see, Islam is the worst thing that has ever happened to planet earth. angry

Bros, its not Islam. its the wrong interpretation of Islam that is the problem.
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by Xbee007(m): 4:40pm On Nov 20, 2015
calaway:
My pastor was caught smooching one church lamb.
Shut up gay*ot!!!
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by Xbee007(m): 4:41pm On Nov 20, 2015
calaway:
My pastor was caught smooching one church lamb.
Shut up Idiot!!!
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by uzoonyx: 4:44pm On Nov 20, 2015
But why is it so contradictory in reference to the previous Quran quotation
ElCapone:
This is what the quran says about terrorism
1. Terrorism is above all murder. Murder is
strictly forbidden in the Qur’an. Qur’an 6:151
says, “and do not kill a soul that God has made
sacrosanct, save lawfully.” (i.e. murder is
forbidden but the death penalty imposed by the
state for a crime is permitted). 5:53 says, “…
whoso kills a soul, unless it be for murder or for
wreaking corruption in the land, it shall be as if
he had killed all mankind; and he who saves a
life, it shall be as if he had given life to all
mankind.”
2. If the motive for terrorism is religious, it is
impermissible in Islamic law. It is forbidden to
attempt to impose Islam on other people. The
Qur’an says, “There is no compulsion in religion.
The right way has become distinct from error.” (-
The Cow, 2:256). Note that this verse was
revealed in Medina in 622 AD or after and was
never abrogated by any other verse of the
Quran. Islam’s holy book forbids coercing
people into adopting any religion. They have to
willingly choose it.

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